FOF8 Releasing Thanksgiving Week!

[Ben E Lou]

Front Office Football Eight News – Football Frontier (http://www.solecismic.com/frontierblog/uncategorized/front-office-football-eight-news/)


After probably the longest and most intense development cycle of my career, I feel confident in announcing the pending release of Front Office Football Eight. When, you might ask? I’m hoping it will be out on Steam on Wednesday. But that will be up to them. I will submit a final build by Monday morning.


You’ll notice a lot of changes in the new product. I think it looks a lot better. Another fantastic main background and branding from Cyril Chong – he’s also been wonderful working with my admittedly intense and varied development schedule. A new menu system designed to get you wherever you want in lightning speed. Non-modal windows mean you can have a lot of information on your screen(s) all at once.


There’s a new game planning system that’s modeled after how NFL coaches prepare for each game. And, each year, you’ll be able to install your own playbook, complete with plays designed to fit your team’s strengths. Of course, Rex is improved, and you’ll have more options for letting him get you through the complicated stuff at first.


Numerous other improvements and new features round out the package. This is definitely the biggest leap between new versions I’ve ever tried. This is the final major piece of new development for my vision of Front Office Football. After a good rest, I hope to start on TCY2. No promises there, but the vision has always been about having both products.


The price of Front Office Football Eight is $29.95. I will offer a 10% discount upon release to reward existing customers who know this is something they want right away..

[AlexB]

Wow. Great news! Thanks Jim :)

[MrBug708]

Spelled TCY 2 wrong!

But yay for a new game!

[SlyBelle1]

Yes!

[Sweed]

Awesome :)

[QuikSand]

Very exciting. Anxious for release. Good luck to Jim and Team Solecismic!

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[chinaski]

Sweeeeeet!

[A-Husker-4-Life]

This sounds great and a TCY2 mention.

[sirotka33]

Very exciting news. I'll be a day one purchaser for sure!

[Pyser]

Congrats Jim!

Will this only be available on Steam? That would not be ideal. Other than that, amazing!

[molson]

One more big FOF 7 dynasty with updated rosters - work for me. Time to re-sign Johnny Manziel and lead the Browns to greatness.

[molson]

Oops, and also, YAY!!!

[sovereignstar v2]

This sounds great and a TCY2 mention.

QFT

[molson]

I'm giddy. I've bought every FOF day one since FOF2 and this will be no exception. I hope we hear about some of the new features before Wednesday, or, maybe it'll fun to just open that bad boy up with no expectations.

[Young Drachma]

Sweet.

[Edward64]

Looking forward to it!

[NawlinsFan]

I just got "wood"! :D


Start with a simple TCY2 that provides storylines and rosters for FOF8. Then take your time to work your magic on it as we create various alternate universes.

[Capital]

Fantastic news about both!

[Vince, Pt. II]

Can't wait!

[Julio Riddols]

Its a good one fellas.

[johnnyshaka]

Great news!

[Eaglesfan27]

I can't wait to rebuild the Eagles around Carson Wentz. Great news about TCY2 too!

[dawgfan]

Congrats Jim. Really excited about a possible TCY2...

[corbes]

:)

[Donnerna]

Holy crap!

I got super excited when I saw that FOF 8 was coming "some day"...and now, a day later, I see that it's coming in less than a week???

AND there's going to be a TCY2???

This is the happiest I have felt in approximately ten days.

Thank you very, very much for this.

[FBPro]

Can't wait.......day one!!!

[Maynard]

Congrats to you, Jim. Having a dream is one thing, but putting in all the work to see it through is something else altogether. Really looking forward to playing. Thank you!

[Senator]

Congrats Jim, and as always, looking forward to it. The only game I play these days is FOF.

[cartman]

Dat boy code so good...

[garion333]

Stoked

[NobodyHere]

Will there be beer tents?

[General Mike]

Steam only?

[lighthousekeeper]

woot woot!!!

[Butter]

Will there be beer tents?

Still makes me laugh.

[stevew]

You can easily get steam to work on OSX with wine or something similar.

[Marmel]

Excited to see this announcement, and then it got even better with a TCY 2 mention! First day buyer as always (even if it doesn't have customized league sizes or expansion :) )

[djsatu]

Congrats again Jim. Day 1 buy from me as well for both upcoming games.

[korme]

Have been getting a pretty big itch to play FOF7 lately. This is perfect, and excellent news. And looky at Jim going against trends and hitting up with a 29.95. I dig it.

[Olsson]

This is great news!

[Super Ugly]

Day one purchaser here. Excellent news. Thanks and congrats, Jim.

[3ric]

Great news, but I'm even more excited about a TCY2 release in the future!

[Antmeister]

Are you f'n kidding me! Yay. Thought it may happen next year, but this is great news.

[Cole]

Awesome! I'm new to the franchise, having only played FOF7, but I've got about 30 seasons into my FOF7 franchise and will love to try the new game. I'm hoping it has more flexibility and immersion for those who play custom/fictional games, but we'll wait and see.

Questions for those veterans of the series ...

Is there normal any compatibility between versions? (Ie. Will FOF7 saves work on FOF8?)

Secondly, I know FOF is typically a rock solid game with no big bugs/issues and good stability, but is that normally right after release, or are there typically a few patches/updates that come out before veterans normally start their "long-term" games?

[Dutch]

Congrats, Jim! Very happy for you!

[ezlee2]

Excellent news! Day one purchaser here too!

[perez24]

Awesome! I'm new to the franchise, having only played FOF7, but I've got about 30 seasons into my FOF7 franchise and will love to try the new game. I'm hoping it has more flexibility and immersion for those who play custom/fictional games, but we'll wait and see.

Questions for those veterans of the series ...

Is there normal any compatibility between versions? (Ie. Will FOF7 saves work on FOF8?)

Secondly, I know FOF is typically a rock solid game with no big bugs/issues and good stability, but is that normally right after release, or are there typically a few patches/updates that come out before veterans normally start their "long-term" games?
Game is usually pretty good upon release.

I don't recall a lot of patches, but they usually happen pretty quickly. Updates seem to be a new thing and a roster update.

But I might be remembering incorrectly.

FOF is typically a game you can buy the first day and not worry about a bunch of problems.

[BYU 14]

Great news, but I'm even more excited about a TCY2 release in the future!

Ditto, good news on both fronts though!

[theheel]

Great news to hear and really hopeful for TCY2, that would be really cool

[TroyF]

So excited. Cannot wait to dig into this one.

[RomaGoth]

This is great news. I am a day 1 purchaser, with or without a discount. Very excited to delve into a new, improved version of FOF and even more excited for a possibly new TCY!

Thanks Jim! :)

[RomaGoth]

Awesome! I'm new to the franchise, having only played FOF7, but I've got about 30 seasons into my FOF7 franchise and will love to try the new game. I'm hoping it has more flexibility and immersion for those who play custom/fictional games, but we'll wait and see.

Questions for those veterans of the series ...

Is there normal any compatibility between versions? (Ie. Will FOF7 saves work on FOF8?)

Secondly, I know FOF is typically a rock solid game with no big bugs/issues and good stability, but is that normally right after release, or are there typically a few patches/updates that come out before veterans normally start their "long-term" games?

This has always been one of the most stable games coming out of release that I have every played. Very impressive how Jim releases FOF almost seemingly bug free. There are other games I enjoy that are not nearly as polished upon release.

[TroyF]

Awesome! I'm new to the franchise, having only played FOF7, but I've got about 30 seasons into my FOF7 franchise and will love to try the new game. I'm hoping it has more flexibility and immersion for those who play custom/fictional games, but we'll wait and see.

Questions for those veterans of the series ...

Is there normal any compatibility between versions? (Ie. Will FOF7 saves work on FOF8?)

Secondly, I know FOF is typically a rock solid game with no big bugs/issues and good stability, but is that normally right after release, or are there typically a few patches/updates that come out before veterans normally start their "long-term" games?


From reading the development blog on this game and what Jim has written on the boards, I doubt an FOF 7 save is going to work with FOF 8. It seems like a fairly decent sized change from the last version.

Bugs? Stability? Usually pretty damned good from the second you fire it up.

As someone who has owned every game in the series, this is an automatic day 1 purchase and I'm planning on spending a lot of time this holiday weekend playing it. I don't think I'm the only one here with that idea. That should tell you something about the history of this title.

[MizzouRah]

How is AI and can I move Rams back to STL? :)

Congratulations Jim, looking forward to this!!!

[Ben E Lou]

There's never been a version where a SP career could be carried over. He typically offers conversion of MP leagues fairly soon after the release.

[Squirrel]

Hyped for this, well done Jim, just in time for xmas

[Maynard]

Have you been able to beta test the game, Ben?

[pbot]

Looking forward to this, and especially possibility of TCY2.

[Landshark44]

Nice- Congrats, Jim.....

[cujomatty]

Right on . Looking forward to checking this out.

[Noop]

There’s a new game planning system that’s modeled after how NFL coaches prepare for each game. And, each year, you’ll be able to install your own playbook, complete with plays designed to fit your team’s strengths.

I am intrigued. This feature will be amazing if tied to coaching staff ratings and ability.

[Maynard]

Its a good one fellas.

Details, my good man?

[NawlinsFan]

Its a good one fellas.

As requested, details!

Release has been announced, NDA should be void, open up!

:D

[Julio Riddols]

It will revolutionize MP.

[Maynard]

It will revolutionize MP.

Sounds like my family is about to hate me again! :party:

[Michael V.]

It will revolutionize MP.

That's it?? No Single Player Revolutionizing?!?!??

My BIGGEST 'Grip' wasn't the GUI, perse. It was the inability to carry-over a career from one of FOF to a new FOF. I have both seen and read that Jim will work with MP Online Leagues so that they can carry over their careers, keeping all of their seasons and stats intact. Why??? Why won't Jim do this for us SP guys?? I'd even pay a fee if I needed to so that it could/would happen.

I'm very excited, but I'm holding out being overly excited. I'm a first day buyer, no doubt, but.....I sure hope we will now have the option to carry over and import a league....even in SP/Single Player Mode. =/

[Dutch]

It will revolutionize MP.

I am really hoping for something good here. :)

[lcjjdnh]

Will likely buy if only to support TCY2!

[Germanicus]

Massively excited, glad Jim was able to get this out during the season!

[MizzouRah]

Are we going to get a peek?

[A-Husker-4-Life]

Are we getting an elicense version too?

[stevew]

With all the horrible service e-license gives, I'm not sure why he'd go back there?

[NawlinsFan]

It will revolutionize MP.

Tease!

[keeks]

Nice!!!

[cankles]

Honestly I feel like a sucker now for having bought FOF7 last week. I would've waited if I had any clue this was coming. I'll still buy FOF8 though because I love the product.

[scorp]

This is good news.

[molson]

Are we going to get a peek?

It'd be fun to hear something, to get excited about new features, etc - not sure why we have secrecy for a game coming out in 3 days. But, Jim has always done things his way when it comes to this stuff, and the end result is always good - so whatever works for him.

[Jon]

It's a little bittersweet for me. I'm going to Thailand so it would've been awesome to play on the long flight Tuesday.

BUT it will be a purcase as soon as I can get it.

[Cole]

It'd be fun to hear something, to get excited about new features, etc - not sure why we have secrecy for a game coming out in 3 days. But, Jim has always done things his way when it comes to this stuff, and the end result is always good - so whatever works for him.

I guess the end result being always good is relative, but I must agree that the stance on PR/promotion for the game is a bit odd. However, I understand the limitations of a one-man operation and obviously it's better for him to be coding than promoting. That being said, it's a reason I always wished FOF would have joined forces with Out of the Park Developments. Jim could focus on coding and they then have a PR team that could get the word out and help build buzz and grow the community.

Also would have been nice to see a game with the rock solid engine of FOF combined with the good GUI and interface/graphics of OOTPD games.

I feel although FOF has done well there are many many more people who could be reached if the game had better PR and/or aesthetics.

[Dutch]

This has been the Solecismic Way since ~1998. On Wednesday(ish) y'all will have your appetite for info satisfied. :)

[MizzouRah]

It'd be fun to hear something, to get excited about new features, etc - not sure why we have secrecy for a game coming out in 3 days. But, Jim has always done things his way when it comes to this stuff, and the end result is always good - so whatever works for him.

I was hoping since it was releasing on Steam there would be some screenshots or something.

[theclassic]

This has been the Solecismic Way since ~1998. On Wednesday(ish) y'all will have your appetite for info satisfied. :)

Well, it wasn't always this way. There was some buildup leading to the release of TCY (i.e. screenshots, chats, interviews). A few people, my then-teenage self included, didn't handle it well when the game didn't quite meet our expectations.

Since then, Jim has always been real tight-lipped on development until the game was near imminent release. This way nobody has false expectations about the game and Jim can spend more time in development. This approach is certainly unorthodox but I think it's ultimately what's best for him, the company, and his customers.

Kudos to him for this progressive approach. A lot of developers crave that pre-release buzz. Jim looks beyond that "fun" and simply produces great games.

With that said I can't wait for the latest release, but history has taught me that it'll be well worth the wait.

[korme]

screenshot


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxwcMG-XAAAQQ9c.jpg:large

[Olsson]

That player screen is great. All the basic information in one go. And also I'm very intrigued by the 'ideal front fit'

[Squirrel]

Intriguing to see coverage bars on a DE

[Ben E Lou]

I wonder how those windows will work with a multi-monitor setup. Could be a real boon to dynasty threads.

[A-Husker-4-Life]

That screenshot is great, thanks korme. I can't wait for Wednesday.

I'm wonder the same thing Ben, we have been waiting for this for years. Thanks Jim.

[MizzouRah]

Looks good!

[TroyF]

I wonder how those windows will work with a multi-monitor setup. Could be a real boon to dynasty threads.


Yeah, I agree 100%. I have a three monitor setup. I am already thinking how cool it will be to be able to use all of that space. I have always been the more windows open the better kind of player. Wednesday cannot come soon enough.

[Michael V.]

Looks good!

Huh??

I'm sorry, but it looks virtually the same as every other version of FOF I've played, going back to FOF:The Fourth Edition.

Hopefully the actual game itself will provide some better options because to me, that screen shot above looks no different.

[Cole]

Huh??

I'm sorry, but it looks virtually the same as every other version of FOF I've played, going back to FOF:The Fourth Edition.

Hopefully the actual game itself will provide some better options because to me, that screen shot above looks no different.

I think the screen is designed to show off the fact you can have multiple windows open at once, which is pretty cool.

However, whIle overall it is a bit cleaner aesthetically I agree it's not really a revolutionary new look otherwise.

[Ben E Lou]

Anyone expecting a "revolutionary new look" hasn't been paying attention for the last 18 years. This text (or something very similar) has been on his web site for years, and he's made numerous comments along these lines on forums as well.

My primary goal is to provide cutting-edge sports simulations with clean, simple interfaces. I'm not going to waste valuable development time with expensive graphics. I will continue to work on presenting as much information as humanly possible on each game screen, in ways that are clear and easy to understand.

[Sporkimata]

Hell the addition of multiple windows is something I never expected to see. I am psyched. I wonder if extra points will be as janky as it has been this season.

[Cole]

Anyone expecting a "revolutionary new look" hasn't been paying attention for the last 18 years. This text (or something very similar) has been on his web site for years, and he's made numerous comments along these lines on forums as well.

Well I haven't been around for 18 years of this game, the only previous version I've ever played is FOF7. I figured it wouldn't be an enormous graphics overall but did note Jim said the game "looks better" in his original post. Of course the screenshot does look better than FOF7, if only marginally, so that checks out.

[Ben E Lou]

Well I haven't been around for 18 years of this game, the only previous version I've ever played is FOF7. I figured it wouldn't be an enormous graphics overall but did note Jim said the game "looks better" in his original post. Of course the screenshot does look better than FOF7, if only marginally, so that checks out.Sorry..that didn't come off the way I intended it to newer users. It was just meant to say that unless Jim has a massive change of heart/direction, I don't see the game getting a huge new "look" being a priority to him.

[albionmoonlight]

A guy from Rhode Island ending up all the way over in Oregon State? Unrealistic. Definite not buy for me.

[TroyF]

Huh??

I'm sorry, but it looks virtually the same as every other version of FOF I've played, going back to FOF:The Fourth Edition.

Hopefully the actual game itself will provide some better options because to me, that screen shot above looks no different.


This game is not a graphical paradise and never will be. The UI is designed to give you the information you need , not go "whiz bang, OMG, look at that ultra HD picture of this fake player from 2054"

The idea Jim talked about was always being able to open more windows on a multiple monitor setup.

From pure information standpoint, look at all of the information you can see with just this screenshot:

The DE on the player card show was a 1st round pick from Cincy. He played 9 seasons there. In the 9 seasons, he missed a total of 19 games. (125 games played, 144 would have been possible)

He got a ring. He was converted to a 1 gap DT. He is the 5th ranked FA of the class.


SF franchised a DE and allowed a pro bowl caliber CB move on. (did they have young CB's they liked, is their line horrific if that DL leaves?, do they have a high pick and like a CB for that slot? Cap room? Attitude? Scheme? Already franchised him and the cost would be astronomical if they did it again?

Philly has two tackles in the top 30 free agents and franchised neither one.

Just in that single screenshot, I'm involved in that universe. I would love to see the reasoning behind each teams decision.

Some people get excited by pretty graphics. I'd be happy with a plain spreadsheet if it gave me the information I was looking for.

Edit: As with SD, I hope this doesn't come off as harsh to new users or old expecting different things. I never figured the graphics would change with the looks of the screens. I figured it was how the information was laid out and how easy it would be to get to different spots.

[Cole]

Sorry..that didn't come off the way I intended it to newer users. It was just meant to say that unless Jim has a massive change of heart/direction, I don't see the game getting a huge new "look" being a priority to him.

No worries, no apology needed, I know what you're saying.

I knew of FOF for years but never really took the plunge and gave it a fair chance until FOF7, as I'm not as much a football fan as other sports when it comes to sim games. That being said, once I actually got used to the game and realized how solid it is, that's when I got hooked. That's what counts in the end.

In the end none of us play these games for eye candy anyway, although it never hurts. I wish something like Facegen could be added to the game though, that would definitely be something to add a lot of life to have players have actual pictures to represent them.

[Nemesis]

A guy from Rhode Island ending up all the way over in Oregon State? Unrealistic. Definite not buy for me.

Not only did it happen, it's also realistic, can't you see by the screenshot? :D :lol: ;)

[Sporkimata]

Time to load back up 7 and get myself prepped for 8. Woot!

[Dutch]

Not only did it happen, it's also realistic, can't you see by the screenshot? :D :lol: ;)

:)

[MattJ]

Here is to hoping that expansion is brought back to the game and for practice squads.

One can dream.

[Sporkimata]

Now if we can only resize the windows.....or have some sort of setting to increase the font. FOF 7 is awfully tiny on a 4k monitor.

[MizzouRah]

Huh??

I'm sorry, but it looks virtually the same as every other version of FOF I've played, going back to FOF:The Fourth Edition.

Hopefully the actual game itself will provide some better options because to me, that screen shot above looks no different.

While I was hoping for a redesigned UI.. it does look cleaner/clearer to me and having multiple windows open is great.. especially since I can finally play this game properly on a 24" monitor.

[cubboyroy1826]

So I am definitely buying as soon as the game is released but I do have a question. Will we be able to import the previous season and draft files like we can now?

[burnshroom]

http://i.imgur.com/UYq1XMa.jpg?1

I post the above image to show just how long I have been "around".

I have great interest in FOF 8. Will be buying it without question. But I too had more hopes for more by the way of UI.

Those that are around this site are tried and true in their faith in the product and will purchase no matter what. But the UI is stale. I understand how it presents information all in one go and one previous user stated seeing all of that puts him in that universe.

But as I look at FOF 7 on Steam it is disheartening to see 111 reviews.

Users clamor for a football game that will immerse them and is playable and they can get "into". And the options are lacking. I would say having a football game on steam Steam should be an easy win. But the users on this forum are not the targeted audience I would think.

I still feel like looking at that screenshot, I am looking at any other version of FOF going all the way back to the game I bought way back when.

While I am still looking forward to FOF8, (not to be critical) but it is more like FOF 1.8.

(flame away)

[TheFoosballWizard]

There might be 111 review, but there's about 7,000 owners via steam: Attention Required! | CloudFlare (https://steamdb.info/app/344340/graphs/)

Plus, this game was already owned by tons of people outside of steam, like myself.

[RomaGoth]

I am excited for this new version. However, I would like to see some things added that were lacking in previous versions:


Practice squads
Facegen or some type of player photo
News items
Search function in-game to find a specific player or position

I have my doubts that any of these things are in FOF8, but they would create more immersion and perhaps upgrade the game a little in the process. A revitalized UI would be nice but as a fan of this game for many, many years I realize that Jim is not interested in updating the GUI and thus, I don't worry about it too much.

[burnshroom]

There might be 111 review, but there's about 7,000 owners via steam: Attention Required! | CloudFlare (https://steamdb.info/app/344340/graphs/)

Plus, this game was already owned by tons of people outside of steam, like myself.

Agreed. Many did have before Steam. Count me as one of them. But I don't present that "111 reviews" stat as being overly comprehensive as to owners of the game. But going to Steam I would imagine was a way for Jim to get the game out there to more people were unaware of the game. To get in in the hands of those outside of this community.

It may have even been successful. My main point, a small one based on what the game is, is that an overhauled and more streamlined UI would have been great.

I won't lie. I initially saw the screenshot posted on OS, and I just thought someone used an image from FOF Seven as a placeholder. When I read it was a new screenshot... I sighed.

[TroyF]

I'm not going to flame you. If you feel that way, so be it.

But this game is not about the graphics. Anyone looking for that type of upgrade was always going to be disappointed. The quote from the website is how this series is made.

The improvements from one to seven have been massive. What you call 1.1 to 1.7 is an entirely different game, even in single player mode. The multi player add on speaks for itself. What you are saying is the game looks like 1.8.

To me, that is not only fine, it I'd preferred. I love more open screens and easier to get information. That's the only ui thing I care about.

[wustin]

I'd rather it be minimalistic so I can run it on my toaster of a Thinkpad.

[molson]

I've always liked Jim's spreadsheet style. It's a text sim. Spreadsheets are probably the most efficient way to present information. I've always found other text sims to be a little disorienting, my eyes and brain don't always lock onto their presentation of the data the same way they do for Jim's games.

[Dutch]

Same here, Molson.

[A-Husker-4-Life]

I'm with Molson also, I prefer the spreadsheet look.

[cubboyroy1826]

See being an old fart like I am I love that the basic maneuvering of stuff is staying the same. I unfortunately get frustrated trying to learn a new sport sim if it does not function like something I am familiar with. Just one of the reasons OOTP, FOF and FBCB are my favorites. Honestly it is not that I cannot learn but I like to jump right in and get started without having to learn something new. Man I have become my parents!

[garion333]

I'd like to get rid of a lot of color so it looks less like a game and more like a spreadsheet.

You know, so I can more easily play it at work.

I'm serious.

[Squirrel]

Heh @ garion. Shout out to the people who can just play the game straight up at work as opposed to exporting to .xls and doing it that way (ahem)

V excited to find out what this is doing for MP

[Ben E Lou]

I still feel like looking at that screenshot, I am looking at any other version of FOF going all the way back to the game I bought way back when.

While I am still looking forward to FOF8, (not to be critical) but it is more like FOF 1.8.If what you're looking for in a new version is a new look, then it's very likely that you're always going to think of FOF as merely going from 1.1 to 1.8. Definitely since FOF4 (2002, I think,) the game doesn't really *look* much different. However, just about every new version since then had something that was a big step forward in actual game play.

(And yeah, when I worked in an office I wanted it less color and more spreadsheet-looking.)

[keeks]

please have an option to move the player options back to the top. Its encoded in my muscle memory already

[keeks]

I am excited for this new version. However, I would like to see some things added that were lacking in previous versions:


Practice squads
News items
Search function in-game to find a specific player or position

I have my doubts that any of these things are in FOF8, but they would create more immersion and perhaps upgrade the game a little in the process. A revitalized UI would be nice but as a fan of this game for many, many years I realize that Jim is not interested in updating the GUI and thus, I don't worry about it too much.
Need practice squads so bad

[Sweed]

Hell, I breathed a sigh or relief when I saw the screen shot. I was happy to see fof8 keeping the look I am used to and not reinventing the wheel. Multiple open screens and player cards with more info available in one look is going to make playing so much more enjoyable for me.

I would have liked to see the ability to have a photo on the player card and have user made face-packs, but not a game-breaker. Team helmets or logos will have to do:)

I just hope Steam is up to speed and gets it out on Wed.

[rockmedic109]

I'd like to get rid of a lot of color so it looks less like a game and more like a spreadsheet.

You know, so I can more easily play it at work.

I'm serious.
Get your boss a copy of the game. He'll {or she'll} be too busy playing to look up at what you're doing.

[NawlinsFan]

Oh tell me we can get into the files and mod them! Not that its really needed but I am ready to start tweeking.

[Dutch]

Need practice squads so bad

Practice Squads would be great if we had a lot of injuries to deal with. I suppose, in SP and a high injury setting, I could see the value.

And I'm not going to discredit the value of practice squads in this game...but in MP (where the injury settings are kept relatively low), there is hardly any discernable difference between anybody left in Free Agency that I wonder who we would actually place on our practice squads and why?

Now...if there was some sort of bonus for being aware of the coaches playbook, then I could definitely see a benefit.

And FOF8 does have something akin to playbooks apparently...so who knows!

[wishbone]

I am excited by the idea that a DE making $19M can identify as a "1-Tech. DT". It add a whole new layer to team building when you have to put complementary pieces together instead of knowing what 3 positions you need big bars.
It's also interesting to see the combines for a 9-year vet - wonder if that changes over time?
Last 2 year stats on the player card is a nice change, just one less thing to click

[garion333]

Heh @ garion. Shout out to the people who can just play the game straight up at work as opposed to exporting to .xls and doing it that way (ahem)


Dude, you clearly love playing in Excel.

Fwiw, I use Chrome Remote Desktop to remote to my home pc and play that way. It's also how I listen to Spotify at work since they locked that down a while ago.

[PackerFanatic]

Quite excited!

[Nemesis]

Dude, you clearly love playing in Excel.

Fwiw, I use Chrome Remote Desktop to remote to my home pc and play that way. It's also how I listen to Spotify at work since they locked that down a while ago.

Ahem, pros use Open Office... Calc to be specific.

[SlyBelle1]

I saw this posted on steam....I wonder if it really makes it out this week, especially with the holiday....I hope so.



Front Office Football Eight
The new product is coming soon. More will be available as soon as Steam approves the "coming soon" notice. Hopefully it will be out this week.

I'm not sure what their policy is on previous versions. In the past, I have always stopped selling the prior version when a new one is available.

I'm afraid I don't have the bandwidth to answer any questions about the new game. All will be known when the product page is approved.

Thanks for your support.

[RomaGoth]

Fwiw, I use Chrome Remote Desktop to remote to my home pc and play that way. It's also how I listen to Spotify at work since they locked that down a while ago.

Man I love working from home. :)

[keeks]

If its not too late can we get in Career records a "4+ Passing TD Games" record?

[Dutch]

Well good morning to us! FOFC is back! And FOF8 to be released tonight at 6pm!

[RedKingGold]

There are some really good nuggets in the instruction manual (http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/manuals/FOFOffensivePhilosophy.pdf?t=1479889384) on the Steam page.

[albionmoonlight]

There are some really good nuggets in the instruction manual (http://http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/manuals/FOFOffensivePhilosophy.pdf?t=1479889384) on the Steam page.

Link not working for me

[SlyBelle1]

There are some really good nuggets in the instruction manual (http://http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/manuals/FOFOffensivePhilosophy.pdf?t=1479889384) on the Steam page.

Thanks for the heads up....missed that. Can't wait until later today.

[PilotMan]

Don't forget to post those reviews on Steam. It's a huge factor in the success of a game there.

[cleancoder42]

the playbook creator/gameplanning is very intriguing. It appears it might be a bit of work at first, but it says you can save your playbooks, so it appears once you have a playbook you like you can tweek it to your team.

[cleancoder42]

the manual doesn't say much about defensive playcalling/gameplanning. I'm curious to see how it compares to offense

[molson]

NEW IN VERSION EIGHT

For those of you who have played Front Office Football in the past, there are dozens of new features in the game. This is our most ambitious new product to date, and you'll find it a much more realistic professional football experience.

Custom offensive playbooks. Each year, during training camp, you can create a book of up to 200 offensive plays to use during the season. Of course, as with all the management features in Front Office Football, the game's AI can create a playbook specifically for your team if you like.

New player participation charts. You can select your starters based on personnel groupings. This gives you much more control over who is on the field in every situation.

More realistic game planning. Rather than filling out extensive charts, you can write scripts for the plays your team will run in every situation. Create a list of plays for use in the Two-Minute Drill. Save your best plays for those critical third-and-three situations. This is much closer to how professional teams handle in-game play-calling. On defense, your plan will cover how you react to what your opponent is doing. You'll have fewer choices to make, but the choices will have a big impact on performance.

Instant history (or at least history created as quickly as your computer can run). At the press of a button, you can generate up to 50 seasons of "history" for your league, with the AI running every team.

Enhanced Multi-Player Support. A fuller set of options for maintaining your multi-player games. Additional security features to prevent "hacked" stage files and file compression to shorten load times and reduce the FTP space needed to run a game.

New player cards with quick access to all the information available about each athlete.

Create graphs showing how many wins each franchise has over any time period in your league to highlight potential dynasties.

A playoff probability simulator so that late in the season you can determine each team's chances of reaching the playoffs or gaining a first-round bye.

A brand new menu interface. Front Office Football will never be the prettiest game in the world, but the the new menu will quickly get you any place in the game.

Interface improvements. Switch between using various screens within the game. You can even take advantage of multiple monitors and have all sorts of varied information available at once. Front Office Football has always been about displaying as much information as possible.

Quote of the Day. Every day, you can read a quote from the vast store of collected wisdom within the Front Office Football universe.

Extensive improvements and fine tuning within the game engine. Little was left untouched. The heart of Front Office Football is in the play results and the simulation of thousands and thousands of games.

A 2016 player file and coach file.

Thanks for taking a look at Front Office Football Eight.

[RedKingGold]

Link not working for me

Darn iPhone, should work now.

[cleancoder42]

I didn't notice this before, nice!

>>>> Instant history (or at least history created as quickly as your computer can run). At the press of a button, you can generate up to 50 seasons of "history" for your league, with the AI running every team.

[RedKingGold]

[QUOTE]Instant history (or at least history created as quickly as your computer can run). At the press of a button, you can generate up to 50 seasons of "history" for your league, with the AI running every team.[\QUOTE]

This makes me very, very happy!

[mekniphc]

Ben, Any idea on when you want GML to be converted to FOF8?

[Ben E Lou]

Solecismic.com has been updated with info about the new game.

[Sporkimata]

WOOT!

[SegRat]

Im drooling

[cleancoder42]

and a manual for defensive philosophy is on the solesmic site. Nice

[Dutch]

Tonight is gonna be fun!

[Ben E Lou]

The feature list and released manuals are over the top.

[MattJ]

I couldnt tell from the screen shots or the depth chart if Jim updated to be able to only have 2 active QB's.

[MizzouRah]

Tonight is gonna be fun!

You got that right sir!

I've never purchased FOF on Steam.. is there a way to update logos and what not?

[Icy]

Can't say I was not disappointed when I saw the screenshot at OS main site, the game looks almost the same as it has in the last few years. For some reason I thought that Jim had a designer working with him on it, and honestly it's exactly the type of design that Jim has done all by himself in the past. With redesign I was not expecting a big move, maybe just the windows looking a little more modern than windows 3.1 or just improving the default team logos at least would have been an advance.

After the initial shock, I realized that after all these years not changing his mind... why would he now? Would a new interface give him more sales in Steam? of course yes. Does Jim care about what people think about his interfaces or those potential extra sales? seems not, and it's his game as his decision, so it's respetable. I guess his experience while working with EA in one of the old versions spoiled him about trying to be more mainstream.

Do I really need a pretty interface myself? Well I wouldn't say OOTP or even FM are pretty, but they are functional (imho) while helping a to the immersion factor, while still remaining as "text sims". Something that is hard for me with FOF the same way I can't really feel immersed into Minecraft or Dwarf Fortress, but that is just me, and the true is that millions of people don't care at all about those games graphics, heck i still play Steel Panthers despite being a really old and graphically outdated game because it's a great sim.

What surprises me a bit is how exigent and sometimes even harsh FOFC is to other text sims developers and how permissive is about FOF interface in 2016 so I couldn't just shut up this time even if this won't make me very popular here and at the risk of offending Jim, that I admire and respect for keeping his passion after that many years.

So ok after this little rant and thoughts, let's focus on what he does well, that is an almost perfect stats generator that must be incredible difficult in a game with as many variables, specially now with more gameplans options that for sure will be be tried to exploit specially in MP.

In the past despite the interface I managed to get immersed due to the great sim engine and features, so I'm I'll do again and for sure will buy it as soon as it's available today.

[sirotka33]

You got that right sir!

I've never purchased FOF on Steam.. is there a way to update logos and what not?

Yes, you just find the FOF folder and replace the files the same way.

[QuikSand]

Not sure if all this has been posted, but from the Solecismic website:

= = =
New Features for Front Office Football Eight

The new version of Front Office Football includes dozens of new features, designed to enhance your simulation experience. This is our most ambitious new product to date, and you'll find it a much more realistic professional football experience. The new game features the following:

Custom offensive playbooks. Each year, during training camp, you can create a book of up to 200 offensive plays to use during the season. Of course, as with all the management features in Front Office Football, the game's AI can create a playbook specifically for your team if you like.

New player participation charts. You can select your starters based on personnel groupings. This gives you much more control over who is on the field in every situation.

More realistic game planning. Rather than filling out extensive charts, you can write scripts for the plays your team will run in every situation. Create a list of plays for use in the Two-Minute Drill. Save your best plays for those critical third-and-three situations. This is much closer to how professional teams handle in-game play-calling. On defense, your plan will cover how you react to what your opponent is doing. You'll have fewer choices to make, but the choices will have a big impact on performance.

Instant history (or at least history created as quickly as your computer can run). At the press of a button, you can generate up to 50 seasons of "history" for your league, with the AI running every team.
Enhanced Multi-Player Support. A fuller set of options for maintaining your multi-player games. Additional security features to prevent "hacked" stage files and file compression to shorten load times and reduce the FTP space needed to run a game.

New player cards with quick access to all the information available about each athlete.

Create graphs showing how many wins each franchise has over any time period in your league to highlight potential dynasties.

A playoff probability simulator so that late in the season you can determine each team's chances of reaching the playoffs or gaining a first-round bye.

A brand new menu interface. Front Office Football will never be the prettiest game in the world, but the the new menu will quickly get you any place in the game.

Interface improvements. Switch between using various screens within the game. You can even take advantage of multiple monitors and have all sorts of varied information available at once. Front Office Football has always been about displaying as much information as possible.

Sports Radio. Are there any quarterback controversies in the league? If so, you'll find them here, and that may explain a team's current difficulties.

Quote of the Day. Every day, you can read a quote from the vast store of collected wisdom within the Front Office Football universe.

Many other internal changes. Little was left untouched. As always, the long-term value of Front Office Football is the simulation itself. Much of development includes continued refining of the statistical engine, as well as continuing to improve the game's AI so that you can have a competitive single-player experience. This is the heart of the Front Office Football experience.

= = =

Front Office Football: A Windows PC Football Simulation (http://www.solecismic.com/frontofficefootball.php)

[Ben E Lou]

Offensive and defensive philosophy documents are downloadable/printable here:

http://www.solecismic.com/downloads.php

31 total pages. Nice!

[MizzouRah]

Yes, you just find the FOF folder and replace the files the same way.

Thanks!

[Maynard]

Offensive and defensive philosophy documents are downloadable/printable here:

http://www.solecismic.com/downloads.php

31 total pages. Nice!

Holy cow :eek:

[SlyBelle1]

I am not overly worried about the UI, to be honest I have really never had an issue....its functional and provides me all the info I want. Much more focused on stats, roster management, draft, game planning, etc. The thing I am most eager to see is the new play/game planning features. I always struggled with the depth in the past so hoping this might be a little easier and more engaging to manage. I have cleaned my schedule for tonight:)

[Ben E Lou]

Holy cow :eek:Oh yeah. Those are old-school "read the game manual over a cup of coffee" documents. Had to print 'em out. :D

[Ned Doolittle]

Wow I just found out about this today, I'm gonna buy this game probably after I come home from turkey day tomorrow. I wanna join a MP league (caveat, I'm Hell Atlantic) and orgasm my excellence over everyone with my FOF prowess.

Not sure if this is a compliment or insult (not intended as an insult) but due to low expectations regarding Jim's take on graphics when I saw the screenshot I was actually impressed. I really like how it looks. OOTP seems to be trying to blur the line between text sim and something resembling a console game, FOF has and seems always will be a strictly hardcore text sim game. It is what it is so thebest thing to do is appreciate the modest gains in the graphics dept. I haven't played the last version of FOF but this new game looks like the slickest version yet. It looks great, although technically you need to qualify that statement with "...for a FOF game".

[cleancoder42]

Oh yeah. Those are old-school "read the game manual over a cup of coffee" documents. Had to print 'em out. :D

Yep, the manuals alone are worth the upgrade to me. I think I'm really going to love the new gameplanning features!

[cleancoder42]

delelted

[cubboyroy1826]

Probably a good thing the release is tonight. I am swamped with work and feel an earlier release probably would make for little to no work getting done.

[RomaGoth]

I wanna join a MP league (caveat, I'm Hell Atlantic) and orgasm my excellence over everyone with my FOF prowess

woah, blast from the past :eek:

[Sporkimata]

I think I would like to try Mp for the first time myself. I have been playing this game since the original and never have done it yet.

[lcjjdnh]

Can you install or transfer a game through Steam to another computer? I have a Mac, but run Windows through Parallels off of a USB drive. Away for the weekend, though, and forgot to bring the drive. Can I download the game on another computer now, and then install it on my own one I get home next week?

[garion333]

What surprises me a bit is how exigent and sometimes even harsh FOFC is to other text sims developers and how permissive is about FOF interface in 2016 so I couldn't just shut up this time even if this won't make me very popular here and at the risk of offending Jim, that I admire and respect for keeping his passion after that many years.

We are? I would've thought there were more complaints about interface than anything else...

[RD]

My biggest question is whether or not I will be able to merge my current FOF7 league over to FOF8. Does anyone know the answer to this?

[albionmoonlight]

Really does look like a complete re-design of play calling. Excited.

[albionmoonlight]

My biggest question is whether or not I will be able to merge my current FOF7 league over to FOF8. Does anyone know the answer to this?

The updates have never had this capability before.

[RedKingGold]

My biggest question is whether or not I will be able to merge my current FOF7 league over to FOF8. Does anyone know the answer to this?

Based on past release history, probably not.

[RedKingGold]

I have not yet read anything on chemistry. Based on Jim's feedback, I wonder how much has changed.

Either way, these changes take team building to a whole new level.

[garion333]

If I'm reading this correctly we can create plays?

[LondonSmith]

At what time will it actually be released? It's not for sale on steam yet

[Sporkimata]

Release is 3pm pacific.

[sawblade300]

Not sure if all this has been posted, but from the Solecismic website:

= = =
New Features for Front Office Football Eight

The new version of Front Office Football includes dozens of new features, designed to enhance your simulation experience. This is our most ambitious new product to date, and you'll find it a much more realistic professional football experience. The new game features the following:

Custom offensive playbooks. Each year, during training camp, you can create a book of up to 200 offensive plays to use during the season. Of course, as with all the management features in Front Office Football, the game's AI can create a playbook specifically for your team if you like.

New player participation charts. You can select your starters based on personnel groupings. This gives you much more control over who is on the field in every situation.

More realistic game planning. Rather than filling out extensive charts, you can write scripts for the plays your team will run in every situation. Create a list of plays for use in the Two-Minute Drill. Save your best plays for those critical third-and-three situations. This is much closer to how professional teams handle in-game play-calling. On defense, your plan will cover how you react to what your opponent is doing. You'll have fewer choices to make, but the choices will have a big impact on performance.

Instant history (or at least history created as quickly as your computer can run). At the press of a button, you can generate up to 50 seasons of "history" for your league, with the AI running every team.
Enhanced Multi-Player Support. A fuller set of options for maintaining your multi-player games. Additional security features to prevent "hacked" stage files and file compression to shorten load times and reduce the FTP space needed to run a game.

New player cards with quick access to all the information available about each athlete.

Create graphs showing how many wins each franchise has over any time period in your league to highlight potential dynasties.

A playoff probability simulator so that late in the season you can determine each team's chances of reaching the playoffs or gaining a first-round bye.

A brand new menu interface. Front Office Football will never be the prettiest game in the world, but the the new menu will quickly get you any place in the game.

Interface improvements. Switch between using various screens within the game. You can even take advantage of multiple monitors and have all sorts of varied information available at once. Front Office Football has always been about displaying as much information as possible.

Sports Radio. Are there any quarterback controversies in the league? If so, you'll find them here, and that may explain a team's current difficulties.

Quote of the Day. Every day, you can read a quote from the vast store of collected wisdom within the Front Office Football universe.

Many other internal changes. Little was left untouched. As always, the long-term value of Front Office Football is the simulation itself. Much of development includes continued refining of the statistical engine, as well as continuing to improve the game's AI so that you can have a competitive single-player experience. This is the heart of the Front Office Football experience.

= = =

Front Office Football: A Windows PC Football Simulation (http://www.solecismic.com/frontofficefootball.php)
I just got a little tingle in my shorts. :party:

[Tim Tellean]

Is it me or is it odd we can't pre-order and download later?

[TroyF]

One of the first things that jumped out at me from the offensive document:

Every year, all players are tested in the combine events. Front Office Football does this because you
don’t have actual tape to watch, as real professional coaches have.

[garion333]

If I'm reading this correctly we can create plays?

Uh, also cool is the Combine scores update yearly.

I'm so excited it's absurd.

[RomaGoth]

One of the first things that jumped out at me from the offensive document:

Every year, all players are tested in the combine events. Front Office Football does this because you
don’t have actual tape to watch, as real professional coaches have.



This. Is. Awesome.

[garion333]

Jim, THANK YOU for clearly explaining where players will be lined up. The bits about gap assignment will be huge going forward, but the clear and concise explanations of exactly where players are on any given play is huge and clears up all misconceptions.

[TroyF]

This. Is. Awesome.


This might be the single biggest thing I'm excited about now. Knowing Jim, I know it isn't going to be cut/dry. (he lost .3 in the dash so he went from a starter to a bench player) But it is going to give me the ability to see those guys who clearly have lost a step.

I can choose to be like Bill B and trade the guy right away or I can start the player another year and plan for FA and the draft. It should give us a little more detail when someone has an "off year" as to why that is.

ugh, I know it's 6 hours away, but I still refresh steam every five minutes hoping they've made it live.

[Antmeister]

Goodness gracious. It is my off day and the wait is killing me. Here are some of the screenshots that has me biting bath towels like Jerry Tarkanian.


Team Playbooks in which you can add up to 200 plays!
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_f8da042a77f0661a181943e59e0b51086fae2630.jpg?t=1479889384

Depth charts in which you can analyze a player's endurance
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_b441ce3265f4e1d99e760c9aba4e09df3e972110.jpg?t=1479889384

Pull plays out of your playbook to fit the game plan week to week. Woot!
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_054ea94aaeb952abefbf74c59da577d6453d3350.jpg?t=1479889384

Easier Depth chart for Defense.
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_47f9fbc887c65c56dbf6eec9f260429615897068.jpg?t=1479889384

I don't know why, but just having the graphic on top that show you the defensive personnel is awesome. Need to join multiplayer again.
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_958fc33a9df6e2e7d00c75fc2f44a46866d16a02.jpg?t=1479889384

I honestly may never use this, but for those who do. Enjoy!
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_42531f09bba5f43f5888509acdf207fea84fcfa6.jpg?t=1479889384

Playoff Probabilities. Definitely seeing this used in multiplayer prior to the season to pick favorites for the year.
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_70984c5795ffb282099fce7cda075a7aa1d16272.jpg?t=1479889384

While I understand that some people wanted a newer interface, this is much more cleaner than the last one and what one seems to forget is that FOF 7 was drastically improved than prior iterations because it made it much easier for a user to browse around.
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_2d108f41781312f5c2c224bb7d1b0d797fa0428a.jpg?t=1479889384


There were a few other screens but they look similar to FOF 7 so i didn't add them. I am just happy with the new features and reading over the documentation has me amped even more. Can't wait!!!!

[Michael V.]

The updates have never had this capability before.

Which is Highly Disappointing.....

[Michael V.]

Can't say I was not disappointed when I saw the screenshot at OS main site, the game looks almost the same as it has in the last few years. For some reason I thought that Jim had a designer working with him on it, and honestly it's exactly the type of design that Jim has done all by himself in the past. With redesign I was not expecting a big move, maybe just the windows looking a little more modern than windows 3.1 or just improving the default team logos at least would have been an advance.

After the initial shock, I realized that after all these years not changing his mind... why would he now? Would a new interface give him more sales in Steam? of course yes. Does Jim care about what people think about his interfaces or those potential extra sales? seems not, and it's his game as his decision, so it's respetable. I guess his experience while working with EA in one of the old versions spoiled him about trying to be more mainstream.

Do I really need a pretty interface myself? Well I wouldn't say OOTP or even FM are pretty, but they are functional (imho) while helping a to the immersion factor, while still remaining as "text sims". Something that is hard for me with FOF the same way I can't really feel immersed into Minecraft or Dwarf Fortress, but that is just me, and the true is that millions of people don't care at all about those games graphics, heck i still play Steel Panthers despite being a really old and graphically outdated game because it's a great sim.

What surprises me a bit is how exigent and sometimes even harsh FOFC is to other text sims developers and how permissive is about FOF interface in 2016 so I couldn't just shut up this time even if this won't make me very popular here and at the risk of offending Jim, that I admire and respect for keeping his passion after that many years.

So ok after this little rant and thoughts, let's focus on what he does well, that is an almost perfect stats generator that must be incredible difficult in a game with as many variables, specially now with more gameplans options that for sure will be be tried to exploit specially in MP.

In the past despite the interface I managed to get immersed due to the great sim engine and features, so I'm I'll do again and for sure will buy it as soon as it's available today.


Very well put, Icy.
My sentiments exactly.
Oh, I'm buying the 'game', of course. I'll mod it like I do every edition released before (well, that is if reshacker will work on/with FOF8).

EDIT: I had always felt that the FOF UI looked like cardboard, and while I prefer a more vibrant interface, FOF8 does appear to look much more clearer/sharp.

[djsatu]

Goodness gracious. It is my off day and the wait is killing me. Here are some of the screenshots that has me biting bath towels like Jerry Tarkanian.

Team Playbooks in which you can add up to 200 plays!
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_f8da042a77f0661a181943e59e0b51086fae2630.jpg?t=1479889384

Depth charts in which you can analyze a player's endurance
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_b441ce3265f4e1d99e760c9aba4e09df3e972110.jpg?t=1479889384

Pull plays out of your playbook to fit the game plan week to week. Woot!
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_054ea94aaeb952abefbf74c59da577d6453d3350.jpg?t=1479889384

Easier Depth chart for Defense.
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_47f9fbc887c65c56dbf6eec9f260429615897068.jpg?t=1479889384

I don't know why, but just having the graphic on top that show you the defensive personnel is awesome. Need to join multiplayer again.
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_958fc33a9df6e2e7d00c75fc2f44a46866d16a02.jpg?t=1479889384

I honestly may never use this, but for those who do. Enjoy!
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_42531f09bba5f43f5888509acdf207fea84fcfa6.jpg?t=1479889384

Playoff Probabilities. Definitely seeing this used in multiplayer prior to the season to pick favorites for the year.
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_70984c5795ffb282099fce7cda075a7aa1d16272.jpg?t=1479889384

While I understand that some people wanted a newer interface, this is much more cleaner than the last one and what one seems to forget is that FOF 7 was drastically improved than prior iterations because it made it much easier for a user to browse around.
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/547900/ss_2d108f41781312f5c2c224bb7d1b0d797fa0428a.jpg?t=1479889384

There were a few other screens but they look similar to FOF 7 so i didn't add them. I am just happy with the new features and reading over the documentation has me amped even more. Can't wait!!!!

Was hoping that nobody would release anymore screens, so when I got the game later today it would be like opening up a present on xmas morning :). These are just awesome! 4:00 MST can't come soon enough.

[Ben E Lou]

Icy's comment about FOFC is humorous to me. It's a self-selecting group of people who came here because they liked a game with strong gameplay and spreadsheet-looking visuals. Therefore, of *course* it's a community that is going to care much more about functionality than visuals. Why anyone would think otherwise is bit of a mystery to me.

[Ben E Lou]

Was hoping that nobody would release anymore screens, so when I got the game later today it would be like opening up a present on xmas morning :). These are just awesome! 4:00 MST can't come soon enough.screens came from Jim. There are maybe 15 or so at the Steam site.

[AlexB]

Which is Highly Disappointing.....

Maybe disappointing, but no different to every other text sim I've ever played. Isn't it the norm?

[Michael V.]

Maybe disappointing, but no different to every other text sim I've ever played. Isn't it the norm?

Never heard of OOTP??

[stevew]

Can you install or transfer a game through Steam to another computer? I have a Mac, but run Windows through Parallels off of a USB drive. Away for the weekend, though, and forgot to bring the drive. Can I download the game on another computer now, and then install it on my own one I get home next week?

yeah, steam allows multiple installations, but I believe only one can be active at a time.

[lcjjdnh]

yeah, steam allows multiple installations, but I believe only one can be active at a time.

Thanks!

[AlexB]

Never heard of OOTP??

That's why I said games I've played. That is the only game I'm even aware of it being possible, literally every one I've played it's not the case.

[jetpunk2000]

Never heard of OOTP??

OOTP is fine but
A. It's Pretty much an annual release at this point
B. Has it really been any different for the past 5 or 6 years?

Serious question. I see small tweaks but the sim and trade engines have seemed identical for years now and the tracked stats seem the same.

This is a release 3 years later that is probably way more complex than the prior version and probably isn't compatible save wise.

[Ben E Lou]

The league conversion info page is up. Basically same as always.

http://www.solecismic.com/community.php

[Maynard]

The league conversion info page is up. Basically same as always.

http://www.solecismic.com/community.php

Sweeeet!

[sirotka33]

B. Has it really been any different for the past 5 or 6 years?



The last version of OOTP allowed use of multiple processors for simulating, making the game much more optimized and faster while simming.

Sure, most sports titles, whether they are arcade or sim, get yearly releases and they don't reinvent the wheel every year, however I would personally pay for a new football sim every year if I enjoyed it. Even if it's just for new rosters and a couple of tweaks.

[garion333]

The last version of OOTP allowed use of multiple processors for simulating, making the game much more optimized and faster while simming.

You could've just said "no". ;)

[korme]

Do we know about league sizes yet?

[MizzouRah]

I have a stupid referee meeting tonight! :(

Will have it downloaded and ready to go though. Now that STL does not have a football team, I might try a start with the Cleveland Browns. :) At least to have a shot at the #1 pick in 2017.

[SlyBelle1]

I have a stupid referee meeting tonight! :(

Will have it downloaded and ready to go though. Now that STL does not have a football team, I might try a start with the Cleveland Browns. :) At least to have a shot at the #1 pick in 2017.

A shot? Its a sure thing!

[djsatu]

It would be awesome if more peeps played and shared SP dynasty reports. I think I will be doing some for sure. Bringing back the glory days to San Fran is going to be the first thing I do!

[Sporkimata]

Bring back Dean Houston!

[MizzouRah]

A shot? Its a sure thing!

:D

[wustin]

I really hope the minimum roster requirement for QBs is down to two per team and if they both get hurt in game, the TE or WR takes over.

[Hammer]

Loving the expanded defensive options, QB spy in particular. Presumably that will take a man out of coverage to snuff out running QBs.

Kind of wondering if player size is more imprtant as it is strongly highlighted.

No mention of the draft. I wonder if it has changed at all.

[sovereignstar v2]

Do we know about league sizes yet?

Oh no you di'int!

[Julio Riddols]

I really hope the minimum roster requirement for QBs is down to two per team and if they both get hurt in game, the TE or WR takes over.

It is.

[Olsson]

Enjoy the release guys... Bloody time difference! Looking forward to seeing reactions in the morning!

[Masterfocker]

The thing I most want is for preseason to not have the 46 player restriction. Was kinda stupid imo.

Being able to only have to roster 2 QB's would also be amazing.

[TroyF]

I have a stupid referee meeting tonight! :(

Will have it downloaded and ready to go though. Now that STL does not have a football team, I might try a start with the Cleveland Browns. :) At least to have a shot at the #1 pick in 2017.

I think I'll be giving that 50 year history button a look. Will take over my Broncos without any idea of the record our players on it.

[MalcPow]

I really hope the minimum roster requirement for QBs is down to two per team and if they both get hurt in game, the TE or WR takes over.

I still keep four or even five QBs active if I'm facing a lot of punishing hitters.

(Sorry, I'm giggly and excited for the release. :D)

[RD]

Haven't heard much on the subject of drafting. Will we be able to adjust the draft settings(39,50,etc) or will there be one universal setting for everyone.

[Julio Riddols]

Draft settings are still adjustable.

[Julio Riddols]

I'm so stoked to see the "Alright Boyz" thread for this.

[TroyF]

Icy's comment about FOFC is humorous to me. It's a self-selecting group of people who came here because they liked a game with strong gameplay and spreadsheet-looking visuals. Therefore, of *course* it's a community that is going to care much more about functionality than visuals. Why anyone would think otherwise is bit of a mystery to me.


Beyond that, I'm not sure how "hard" we are on other text based games.

The constant complaint most of the die hards have over other text sims is getting information presented in a way that actually makes sense. Beyond, that, we attack the AI of any game and attack it hard.

I probably wrote 25 or 30 posts on how great the DDPB was. I think probably 0 had anything to do with the AI. I've been massively critical of OOTP and it has nothing to do with the UI. Unless a UI absolutely sucks, I won't be paying attention to it.

[Ben E Lou]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of my testers recommended I upload a screen shot of the play designer for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FrontOfficeFootball?src=hash">#FrontOfficeFootball</a> Eight. Release at about 6:00 p.m. <a href="https://t.co/4J09AE61w2">pic.twitter.com/4J09AE61w2</a></p>&mdash; Solecismic Software (@Solecismic) <a href="https://twitter.com/Solecismic/status/801546159835795462">November 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Dutch]

45 minutes to go....

[Hammer]

Shotgun huh. I wonder what the implications are. Better against the rush, increased risk of fumbled snap?

[NawlinsFan]

I just pictured a crap load of us all staring at the Steam Store screen waiting for the sale to trigger!


:)

[aston217]

I think this is going to be great for a lot of people. But designing individual plays at the route level so that I can put in 113t Wk PAct. XZYR 6047 Shotgun isn't exactly my idea of playing the GM.

I only hope that Rex is just fine here and that this game doesn't come down to which people know that you should pair a 7 Corner with a 4 Curl because that's bomb, and which people don't.

[TroyF]

I think this is going to be great for a lot of people. But designing individual plays at the route level so that I can put in 113t Wk PAct. XZYR 6047 Shotgun isn't exactly my idea of playing the GM.

I only hope that Rex is just fine here and that this game doesn't come down to which people know that you should pair a 7 Corner with a 4 Curl because that's bomb, and which people don't.


For single player leagues, I'm sure REX is going to be fine. I don't know how much of an advantage it'll be in multi player leagues. I guess it all depends on the league. As a primarily single player guy, I probably won't care.

Now that I actually have more time available, multi player is tempting though.

[TroyF]

I just pictured a crap load of us all staring at the Steam Store screen waiting for the sale to trigger!


:)

I am NOT hitting the refresh button on the FOF8 steam store sale repeatedly. I have NOT been doing this for the last twenty minutes. I do NOT have a life. :)

[Dutch]

I think this is going to be great for a lot of people. But designing individual plays at the route level so that I can put in 113t Wk PAct. XZYR 6047 Shotgun isn't exactly my idea of playing the GM.

I only hope that Rex is just fine here and that this game doesn't come down to which people know that you should pair a 7 Corner with a 4 Curl because that's bomb, and which people don't.

If I've learned anything about FOF MP...sometimes you better just know and if you don't, you better figure it out. Or...you're basically screwed. :)

[Ben E Lou]

I'm so stoked to see the "Alright Boyz" thread for this.Locked until 6pm, but here it is. (I'll be locking this one at 6 as well.)

Alright Boyz, Here We Go!!! (Front Office Football 8 Thoughts) - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=92057)

[pbot]

Work is completed. Takeout pizza from favorite pizza shop is here. Just need the 'buy' button to go active. :)

[Julio Riddols]

I think this is going to be great for a lot of people. But designing individual plays at the route level so that I can put in 113t Wk PAct. XZYR 6047 Shotgun isn't exactly my idea of playing the GM.

I only hope that Rex is just fine here and that this game doesn't come down to which people know that you should pair a 7 Corner with a 4 Curl because that's bomb, and which people don't.

Rex is fine, Rex can make all your plays for you if you don't wanna do it. You can also rename the plays you create. You can also create half the plays and let Rex do the rest. There aren't any "cheeser" plays from what I have seen, because there is a way to defend everything. These plays are about using your personnel how you want to use them, that's all. If I have a guy who is great at getting downfield, now I can use him on slants and screens and things like that. I love that. If I have a guy who tears the top off a defense, I can send him on 9 routes a lot.

[korme]

*6 PM*
*refresh*

Coming soon
This item is not yet available.

*dies*

[Ben E Lou]

Closed.