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MIJB#19
06-18-2003, 07:51 AM
I decided to make sure all the IWS results are in one spreadsheet.

At this point (after 40 competitions) I've tried to (and have been able to) find all the (complete) results and all the questions (most of them with all given awsners as well.)

I haven't taken the time to reformat most of the copy and pasted info, except for the host name and I've reformatted some of the info of IWS 1 to 10.

The spreadsheet is currently located at my website at:
http://matthijs.netherlands.com/iwshistory.zip

So far the zip file is smaller then 100kb and thus can be uploaded, though once it reaches over 100kb, I'll have to solve that problem some way...

Alf
06-18-2003, 07:56 AM
Did you compiled average ranking (in precentage) per participant or do you award yourself with Mr Irrelevant IWS ;)

MIJB#19
06-18-2003, 08:18 AM
So far no overall rankings.
I just added the #38 score, which were missing from the copy I originally uploaded.

I'd be interested in creating an overall leaderboard, which I think will not take too much time...

For those interested, I compiled my own overall record, which is amazingly better then I always remembered (and signatured) it to be:

<code><font face="courier">
compet partic my rk bottom add info
IWS#1 39 21 19 ...
IWS#2 36 32 5 ...
IWS#3 45 37 9 ...
IWS#4 44 42 3 ...
IWS#5 48 20 29 ...
IWS#6 52 44 9 ...
IWS#7 47 47 1 ...
IWS#8 55 44 11 tied with critch
IWS#9 58 53 4 ...
IWS#10 52 39 14 ...
IWS#11 41 41 1 ...
IWS#12 40 40 1 ...
IWS#13 30 27 4 ...
IWS#14 22 15 8 ...
IWS#15 18 18 1 ...
IWS#16 22 22 1 ...
IWS#17 14 3 12 ...
IWS#18 18 16 3 ...
IWS#19 17 4 14 ...
IWS#20 10 n/a n/a I hosted this IWS
IWS#21 18 17 1 tied with Archer219
IWS#22 19 19 1 ...
IWS#23 21 8 14 ...
IWS#24 20 16 3 tied with Soxwin and BishopMVP; scoring system SUM in stead of PRODUCT
IWS#25 23 n/a n/a I did not participate
IWS#26 22 n/a n/a I did not participate
IWS#27 23 21 3 scoring system SUM in stead of PRODUCT
IWS#28 21 11 11 ...
IWS#29 30 28 3 ...
IWS#30 19 10 10 ...
IWS#31 33 33 1 ...
IWS#32 21 n/a n/a I did not participate
IWS#33 23 n/a n/a I did not participate
IWS#34 24 23 2 ...
IWS#35 27 27 1 ...
IWS#36 29 22 8 ...
IWS#37 25 23 3 ...
IWS#38 31 29 3 ...
IWS#39 22 20 3 ...
IWS#40 19 17 3 ...
</font></code>

cuervo72
06-18-2003, 08:38 AM
Wow, no small undertaking. Good job MIJB.

sterlingice
06-18-2003, 01:38 PM
Trying to cement your legacy here?

SI

MIJB#19
06-19-2003, 02:57 AM
Hey, one can say he's the worst player ever, but there has to be some proof too, no? Besides, what's wrong at being the worst player in a contest to think "Stupid"?:)
That in mind, it seems impossible to finish at the bottom 3 for 19 out of all 40 comeptitions, especially since I joined "just" 35.

Seriously, are there any ideas for a scoring system to make an alltime scoring list?
What was the system used at the old site, Wade Moore did that one, right?

Sadly I have no access to the data from school (I compiled an all time rankings list yesterday). I do know that we have some people around who have won several competitions.
Alf and I are #2 and #1 on all time participation with 33 and 35 respectively.

MIJB#19
06-20-2003, 07:07 AM
Al right, no input on a ranking system, I'll do one myself then.

So what did I do?
I put the rankings of everyone in every competition in a spreadsheet.
After that I calculated a percentage score being 100% for winners and being the (particpants-ranking+1)/participants for others.
So, taking my ranking of my last participation as an example:
17th place amongst 19 participants =>
(19-17+1)/19 = (3)/19 = 15.789%
Then I summed up all scores for all 40 events.
Hosts get no points. Instead, they receive a bonus multiplier, based on the total number of events devided by the total # of events minus number of hosts.
So taking my single participation as an example:
I have around 836 points and 1 host in 40 events being played so far (with rounded numbers) =>
836 * (40/(40-1)) = 836 * (40/39) = 836 * 1.03 = 857

Side note: this ranking system favours people with many participations, as it does favour participation in IWSs with a lot of participants.

Rankings
rank, participant, # of participations, # of points, # of host, # of wins
1 quiksand 30 2586 5 5
2 maple leafs 29 1760 1 1
3 swaggs 28 1588 1 2
4 albionmoonlight 25 1502 1 1
5 panerd 30 1427 1 1
6 msf518 23 1297 0 4
7 digamma 19 1290 1 1
8 bbor 19 1153 2 2
9 alf 33 1149 1 0
10 tro 14 1106 1 3
11 samdari 14 1061 0 1
12 primelord 14 1014 2 1
13 jeeberd 14 953 0 0
14 subby 14 941 0 0
15 ahbrady 13 937 0 1
16 dukerulesmab 14 906 0 0
17 masked 11 899 3 4
18 gold101 15 896 0 0
19 scottvib 15 871 0 1
20 mijb#19 35 858 1 0
21 mustang 14 851 0 0
22 marmel 16 836 0 1
23 draftdodger 22 829 0 0
24 buccaneer 13 813 0 0
25 mrskippy 17 759 0 0
26 tredwel 9 758 2 3
27 cuervo72 11 744 3 2
28 hammer755 12 734 0 1
29 anxiety 16 728 0 0
30 henry296 10 716 2 1
31 rpi-fan 14 716 1 1
32 shorty3281 20 712 0 0
33 sterlingice 9 676 2 3
34 wade moore 12 664 0 0
35 raven hawk 10 632 0 0
36 archer219 11 629 1 1
37 render 14 604 0 1
38 kcchief19 11 590 0 0
39 easy mac 11 583 0 0
40 wes huett 11 580 0 0
41 revrew 10 562 0 0
42 airhog 13 552 1 1
43 mattjones4heisman 8 541 0 0
44 bishopmvp 13 538 1 1
45 critch 16 529 0 0
46 kwhit 8 525 0 0
47 yacovfb 13 511 1 0
48 troyf 8 509 0 0
49 splitpersonality1 8 495 1 1
50 tasan 10 482 0 0
51 agpete 7 481 0 0
52 sublime 11 479 1 1
53 radii 9 477 0 0
54 bearcat729 7 465 0 0
55 eaglefan 12 459 0 0
56 3ric 14 456 0 0
57 wsucougar 8 441 0 0
58 bsak16 9 440 1 2
59 sooner333 8 432 0 0
60 vince 7 419 1 1
61 desert dweller 6 407 0 2
62 pyser 6 392 0 0
63 analbumcover 6 392 0 0
64 neuqua 6 382 0 1
65 oykib 5 378 0 0
66 issiddiqui 7 377 0 0
67 logan 8 370 0 0
68 tucker342 9 358 0 0
69 nothingman 6 353 0 1
70 centralmasshokie 8 341 0 0
71 franklinnoble 4 304 0 0
72 butter_of_69 7 303 0 0
73 samifan24 5 295 0 0
74 hornedfrog purple 8 293 0 1
75 syrinx 6 291 0 0
76 coltcrazy 5 287 0 0
77 senator 6 278 0 0
78 blade 5 276 1 1
79 illinifan999 8 269 0 0
80 joe canadian 5 268 1 1
81 bryce 3 267 0 1
82 wolfpack 5 261 0 0
83 hahnkim 4 257 0 0
84 qwikshot 5 255 0 1
85 sabotai 6 252 0 0
86 robbiedobbs 3 240 0 1
87 barkeep49 4 238 0 0
88 mrbug708 7 233 0 0
89 scooper 6 231 0 0
90 daimyo 4 231 0 0
91 dolfin 3 227 0 0
92 wasabiak 5 215 0 0
93 rainraven 5 210 0 0
94 dataking 4 204 0 0
95 saintanselm 4 202 0 0
96 aggie2002 4 196 0 0
97 vpi97 3 190 0 0
98 ardent enthusiast 4 190 0 1
99 heavyreign 2 172 0 1
100 john galt 3 167 0 0
101 rich1033 4 158 0 0
102 jim lynch 3 151 0 1
103 ryan s 4 145 0 0
104 skydog 2 142 0 0
105 katon 3 140 0 0
106 breizhmanu 4 137 0 0
107 pwatts14 2 134 0 0
108 golden eagle 3 123 0 0
109 vexroid 6 118 0 0
110 acstrider 2 116 0 0
111 b & b 2 115 0 0
112 bigjdotcome01 2 115 0 0
113 vtbub 2 112 0 0
114 scarecrow 3 105 0 0
115 jcclark02 1 95 0 0
116 mikevic 3 93 0 0
117 chiken22 2 90 0 0
118 conrhuskerly 3 90 0 0
119 kingnebwsu 1 88 0 0
120 fidatelo 1 84 0 0
121 markprior22 2 84 0 0
122 frozenrope 1 82 0 0
123 racer 1 81 0 0
124 johnywnstn 1 80 0 0
125 r 1 77 0 0
126 sjshaw 1 75 0 0
127 anrhydeddu 1 73 0 0
128 aylmar 2 70 0 0
129 dacman 1 70 0 0
130 kodos 1 68 0 0
131 wheels 1 67 0 0
132 smcindoe 1 67 0 0
133 sachmo71 3 67 0 0
134 dawgfan1980 2 63 0 0
135 passacaglia 1 61 0 0
136 hornsmaniac 1 56 0 0
137 rembrandt 3 55 0 0
138 mr. Simperless 2 54 0 0
139 mizzourah 3 54 0 0
140 johninmiddlega 2 50 0 0
141 the afoci 1 43 0 0
142 silver owl 1 36 0 0
142 raven 1 36 0 0
144 cringer 1 35 0 0
145 marc vaughn 1 35 0 0
146 stkellyy52 1 32 0 0
147 dutch 1 29 0 0
148 path12 1 28 0 0
149 rufusjonz 1 26 0 0
150 tauter 1 26 0 0
151 soxwin 1 25 0 0
152 eagleeye11 1 20 0 0
153 aesyrqwe 1 19 0 0
154 grdawg 1 17 0 0
155 fantasybandit 1 17 0 0
156 cubsfan915 1 15 0 0
157 pumpy tudors 1 15 0 0
158 axxon 1 15 0 0
159 livnlegend 1 13 0 0
160 sony 1 11 0 0
161 bonegavel 1 10 0 0
162 mrs. Coltcrazy 1 6 0 0
163 jasontobiasiv 1 5 0 0
164 jv10 1 2 0 0
165 craptacular 1 2 0 0

MIJB#19
06-20-2003, 07:11 AM
For the excel sheets with rankings, you can find it (unzipped) here:
All Time IWS Rankings (http://matthijs.netherlands.com/iwsalltimeranks2.xls)

tucker342
06-20-2003, 07:16 AM
impressive! 68th place, go me!:D

Maple Leafs
06-20-2003, 08:26 AM
Wow... #2? Behind only the master himself?

I have the numbers, and yet I'm not sure I really belong in the elite. I'm like the Eddie Murray of IWS.

Butter
06-20-2003, 08:47 AM
Wouldn't the rankings be more accurate if they included an average points per participation stat?

Not to be an ass, because that work looked hard, but one more column would complete them, I think.

MIJB#19
06-20-2003, 08:55 AM
avg can be arranged, it was in there originally actually.

Average percentages based on the calculated # of points (no bonuses for hosts).

rank, "name", # of participations, # of points without bonus, average (rounded scores)

1 jcclark02 1 95 95
2 bryce 3 267 89
3 kingnebwsu 1 88 88
4 heavyreign 2 172 86
5 fidatelo 1 84 84
6 frozenrope 1 82 82
7 racer 1 81 81
8 robbiedobbs 3 240 80
9 tredwel 9 720 80
10 johnywnstn 1 80 80
11 tro 14 1078 77
12 r 1 77 77
13 franklinnoble 4 304 76
14 samdari 14 1061 76
15 dolfin 3 227 76
16 oykib 5 378 76
17 masked 11 832 76
18 quiksand 30 2263 75
19 sjshaw 1 75 75
20 anrhydeddu 1 73 73
21 ahbrady 13 937 72
22 sterlingice 9 642 71
23 skydog 2 142 71
24 dacman 1 70 70
25 primelord 14 963 69
26 agpete 7 481 69
27 kodos 1 68 68
28 jeeberd 14 953 68
29 henry296 10 680 68
30 desert dweller 6 407 68
31 mattjones4heisman 8 541 68
32 wheels 1 67 67
33 subby 14 941 67
34 pwatts14 2 134 67
35 smcindoe 1 67 67
36 bearcat729 7 465 66
37 digamma 19 1258 66
38 kwhit 8 525 66
39 pyser 6 392 65
40 analbumcover 6 392 65
41 dukerulesmab 14 906 65
42 hahnkim 4 257 64
43 neuqua 6 382 64
44 troyf 8 509 64
45 vpi97 3 190 63
46 raven hawk 10 632 63
47 buccaneer 13 813 63
48 cuervo72 11 688 63
49 hammer755 12 734 61
50 passacaglia 1 61 61
51 mustang 14 851 61
52 splitpersonality1 8 482 60
53 gold101 15 896 60
54 barkeep49 4 238 60
55 maple leafs 29 1716 59
56 samifan24 5 295 59
57 nothingman 6 353 59
58 albionmoonlight 25 1464 59
59 vince 7 408 58
60 acstrider 2 116 58
61 scottvib 15 871 58
62 daimyo 4 231 58
63 b & b 2 115 58
64 bigjdotcome01 2 115 58
65 bbor 19 1095 58
66 coltcrazy 5 287 57
67 msf518 23 1297 56
68 revrew 10 562 56
69 hornsmaniac 1 56 56
70 john galt 3 167 56
71 vtbub 2 112 56
72 archer219 11 613 56
73 wade moore 12 664 55
74 swaggs 28 1549 55
75 wsucougar 8 441 55
76 sooner333 8 432 54
77 issiddiqui 7 377 54
78 blade 5 269 54
79 kcchief19 11 590 54
80 easy mac 11 583 53
81 radii 9 477 53
82 wes huett 11 580 53
83 marmel 16 836 52
84 wolfpack 5 261 52
85 joe canadian 5 261 52
86 qwikshot 5 255 51
87 dataking 4 204 51
88 saintanselm 4 202 50
89 jim lynch 3 151 50
90 rpi-fan 14 698 50
91 aggie2002 4 196 49
92 syrinx 6 291 48
93 tasan 10 482 48
94 bsak16 9 429 48
95 ardent enthusiast 4 190 48
96 katon 3 140 47
97 panerd 30 1391 46
98 senator 6 278 46
99 logan 8 370 46
100 anxiety 16 728 45
101 chiken22 2 90 45
102 mrskippy 17 759 45
103 butter_of_69 7 303 43
104 render 14 604 43
105 wasabiak 5 215 43
106 the afoci 1 43 43
107 centralmasshokie 8 341 43
108 sublime 11 468 43
109 markprior22 2 84 42
110 rainraven 5 210 42
111 sabotai 6 252 42
112 airhog 13 538 41
113 golden eagle 3 123 41
114 bishopmvp 13 525 40
115 tucker342 9 358 40
116 rich1033 4 158 39
117 scooper 6 231 39
118 yacovfb 13 498 38
119 eaglefan 12 459 38
120 draftdodger 22 829 38
121 hornedfrog purple 8 293 37
122 silver owl 1 36 36
122 raven 1 36 36
124 ryan s 4 145 36
125 shorty3281 20 712 36
126 cringer 1 35 35
127 scarecrow 3 105 35
128 aylmar 2 70 35
129 marc vaughn 1 35 35
130 breizhmanu 4 137 34
131 alf 33 1120 34
132 illinifan999 8 269 34
133 mrbug708 7 233 33
134 critch 16 529 33
135 3ric 14 456 33
136 stkellyy52 1 32 32
137 dawgfan1980 2 63 32
138 mikevic 3 93 31
139 conrhuskerly 3 90 30
140 dutch 1 29 29
141 path12 1 28 28
142 mr. Simperless 2 54 27
143 rufusjonz 1 26 26
144 tauter 1 26 26
145 johninmiddlega 2 50 25
146 soxwin 1 25 25
147 mijb#19 35 836 24
148 sachmo71 3 67 22
149 eagleeye11 1 20 20
150 vexroid 6 118 20
151 aesyrqwe 1 19 19
152 rembrandt 3 55 18
153 mizzourah 3 54 18
154 grdawg 1 17 17
155 fantasybandit 1 17 17
156 cubsfan915 1 15 15
157 pumpy tudors 1 15 15
158 axxon 1 15 15
159 livnlegend 1 13 13
160 sony 1 11 11
161 bonegavel 1 10 10
162 mrs. Coltcrazy 1 6 6
163 jasontobiasiv 1 5 5
164 jv10 1 2 2
165 craptacular 1 2 2


Now I know why I didn't want to rank this way, it favours people with only 1 (and succesful) participation.

MIJB#19
06-20-2003, 09:07 AM
Still, I think neither of the ranking systems is good enough.
I mean, the first makes me look good at #20, while I'm obviously not.
The second ranking has succesful one-day-flies a top, though succesfull others like TredWel, Masked and TRO show up where they belong.

Any ideas?
I mean, I have the data, all it needs is a formula that can be easlily copy'n'pasted 164 times.

cuervo72
06-20-2003, 09:37 AM
Somewhere I think you should work in how one did compared to the winner....so if the winner had 100000 points and you had 50000, you score .5 (winner of course scores 1). Maybe then multiply that by the number of participants ('n') to get your score for that IWS. That way, those IWS's with more participants are weighted (as they should be), but relative success/failure is a little more exact as compared with calculating solely based on rank.

The alternative to above would be to score in relation not to the winner, but to the maximum number of points possible. Actually, this might be better, because you can win and still have a few clunkers for answers, but that might be offset by IWS's with more participants. That way if you scored 100% in an "easy" IWS (smaller 'n'), it may be equal to a 50% win in a "hard" IWS (large 'n').

panerd
06-20-2003, 11:26 AM
I like the rankings where I am #5 and not the one where I am #97. The first ones rightfully award those who particpate regularly.

JeeberD
06-20-2003, 01:31 PM
#13 overall, not too shabby. I always seem to be in the top three or four but never win the damn thing. Hopefully that will change someday...