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Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 07:29 AM
...you know the rest. ;)
According to the "experts," it looks like this kid that I'm getting to see week-in and week-out might just be something special. Rivals is beginning to publish its "Top" lists for the Class of 2004 recruits. Right now, RB Thomas Brown (http://scout.theinsiders.com/a.z?s=37&p=8&c=1&nid=626985) is listed as the #3 RB in the nation, and the #31 player overall, and some services have listetd Thomas as high as the #2 back. (Of course, Adrian Peterson is everyone's #1 back, and many folks' #1 player in the land.) Rivals has actually seriously UNDER-reported Thomas' bench press. They've got him listed at 275, but Thomas was at 320 this spring. I ran into teammate Brandon Lang (a nice prospect in his own right, listed #13 in GA and already has an offer from FSU) last night and he said that Thomas is now benching 340. :eek: At any rate, here's the 4-1-1 on him, according to Rivals...
http://www.rivals.com/uploads/941/94341.jpg
Height: 5'10" (I think he's more like 5'11". I'm 6'0", and he's close to my height.)
Weight: 185 pounds (Maybe that's what he was weighing after a full season of playing nearly every play going both ways. From seeing him around campus this spring, I would guess that he's at about 195. The kids arms and back are just ripped.)
40 Time: 4.4 (As we all know, this can be the most contested figure for any recruit or prospect. Some services list him at 4.35. The kids last night said he ran a 4.36 on grass at Auburn passing camp a couple of weeks ago. Suffice it to say that the kid has cover corner speed. Indeed, Penn State has offered him a scholarship as a CB.)
Intangibles: Not listed on Rivals (I included this because these days it can be quite important. Thomas' father is a pastor and his mother is an assistant principle. Suffice to say that the kid is used to structure and discipline in his life. ;) He's one those model-citizen type kids. Never been in any trouble. Leader among his peers and teammates. Breaks up fights in the halls. Etc.)
Scholarship Offers: Rivals reported that he had 18 offers as of June 3rd. Last night, Brandon said that Thomas is up to 23 offers now. Here's a blurb from the June 3rd article: "I have 18 offers," said Brown. "Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, Florida State, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Mississippi State, and North Carolina have all offered among others. Penn State offered me as a corner, but I think all of the other schools are offering me as a running back. I like playing running back, but it doesn’t matter to me what they offer me as."
Rivals says that Maryland is leading the way, but Thomas is saying that he hasn't even narrowed it down to the Top 5 for his visits yet.
Some are saying that Thomas will be better than Tucker's last feature back, Jabari Davis (now at Tennessee). That's hard to say. They are VERY different types of backs. Jabari left Tucker weighing around 230 pounds, with 4.55 speed--much more of a punishing tailback. Thomas is more of a Barry Sanders/Warrick Dunn kind of back. Here's the word from Head Coach Bill Ballard: "Every starting tailback who’s come through here the last 12-15 years has gone on to be a D-I kid. It’s been a pretty impressive run, and Thomas could be as good as any of them. He’s just got blazing speed and the ability to cut and make people miss. He’s a very exciting player."
A few videos:
Dat (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tucker/thomas1.wmv)
boy (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tucker/thomas2.wmv)
run (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tucker/thomas3.wmv)
so (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tucker/thomas4.wmv)
good (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tucker/thomas5.wmv)
... (http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tucker/thomas6.wmv)
Also, wouldn't you like to see this kind of info in TCY, including improperly reported 40 times and bench presses??? I mean geez, Rivals is off by at LEAST 45 pounds on his bench press. I'd love to see this sort of stuff modeled in more detail in TCY. You could have the option (like most major schools do) of hosting lineman camps, passing camps, etc., which would be the only way to get truly accurate info.... Maybe add an "accuracy" rating to each high school to go along with the academic prep and athletic prep ratings.
scooper
06-20-2003, 07:38 AM
Once again.
Golden helmet
Ty
yada yada yada
Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by scooper
Once again.
Golden helmet
Ty
yada yada yada Yeah yeah yeah. Brandon and Thomas are good friends, and they may end up being a package deal, and Brandon prefers the Dawgs. :D
cuervo72
06-20-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by SkyDog
...you know the rest. ;)
Scholarship Offers: Rivals reported that he had 18 offers as of June 3rd. Last night, Brandon said that Thomas is up to 23 offers now. Here's a blurb from the June 3rd article:
"I have 18 offers," said Brown. "Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, Florida State, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Mississippi State, and North Carolina have all offered among others. Penn State offered me as a corner, but I think all of the other schools are offering me as a running back. I like playing running back, but it doesn’t matter to me what they offer me as."
Rivals says that Maryland is leading the way, but Thomas is saying that he hasn't even narrowed it down to the Top 5 for his visits yet.
Yay for Maryland!...though he probably won't end up there. And I don't know why Joe-Pa can't just let players play where they want to play...at least he doesn't want to turn him into a linebacker though. :rolleyes:
scooper
06-20-2003, 08:11 AM
Oh well. Better than ending up somewhere in Florida.
Maryland?
Actually, this year the Irish will probably be knocking on the door of every top running back in the nation with decent grades. They've struck out on the big ones the last couple years.
albionmoonlight
06-20-2003, 08:33 AM
Tar Heels
INDalltheway
06-20-2003, 08:59 AM
The kid was never touched. He split two defenders like there was never anyone there. Wow! He is fast.
Wolfpack
06-20-2003, 09:21 AM
Hey, albion...one more year of Bunting should turn him off completely from the Heels... ;) It's good to be the king (for once...I grew up during the 80s and never witnessed State beat Carolina at anything in football until 1986...utterly depressing).
Anrhydeddu
06-20-2003, 09:30 AM
(I included this because these days it can be quite important. Thomas' father is a pastor and his mother is an assistant principle. Suffice to say that the kid is used to structure and discipline in his life. He's one those model-citizen type kids. Never been in any trouble. Leader among his peers and teammates. Breaks up fights in the halls. Etc.)
:)
Is 5'10"/5'11" good height for a featured RB?
albionmoonlight
06-20-2003, 09:37 AM
Emmitt Smith is 5'9"
Eddie George is 6'3"
Deuce McCallister is 6'1"
Warrick Dunn is 5'9"
I think that 5'10"-11" is fine if he has the skills. I don't know what the scouts consider to be ideal.
Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
:)
Is 5'10"/5'11" good height for a featured RB? I'd say it is probably right around average, even in the NFL. Just a quick glance, but the Falcons have 5 RB's on their roster. They range in height from 5'8" to 6'0".
Senator
06-20-2003, 09:47 AM
He is a fast kid. But with THAT line blocking I could get 4 yards a pop. Did you see the holes that offense created? Good school.
cuervo72
06-20-2003, 09:55 AM
Barry Sanders. Height: 5-8 Weight: 203
Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Senator
He is a fast kid. But with THAT line blocking I could get 4 yards a pop. Did you see the holes that offense created? Good school. Tucker is definitely becoming a school that consistently churns out talent, particularly for a relatively small high school (about 1,300 students). We currently have a 26-game regular season winning streak, and are 36-5 over the past three seasons, playing in a TOUGH region. The Tucker Recreation League is top-notch, with kids receiving solid coaching from childhood on. This is a list of where some former Tigers are now. The 2002 team had at least couple more guys going on to the next level, but those are the ones I know off the top of my head. They haven't listed the 2002 team's school choices yet on their web site. (This is particularly impressive since we only had 10 seniors on the 2002 squad. Half or more of them will play in college.)
Professional Players
Kevin Turks - 1994 Chicago Bears (Pro Scout)
Patrick Pass - 1996 New England Patriots
College Players
Jason Culp - 1998 Morehead State
Trey Mathews - 1998 University of Tennessee/Chattanooga
Bernard Snowden - 1998 University of Tennessee/Chattanooga
Nick Whiteside - 1998 Kentucky Wesleyan
Bryan Lamar - 1999 University of Tennessee/Chattanooga
Greg Billingslea - 2000 University of Memphis
Jabari Davis - 2000 University of Tennessee
Stephen Ogletree - 2000 James Madison University
Gene Pate - 2000 Clemson University
Darius Swain - 2000 University of Georgia
Jamar Bell - 2001 Norfolk State University
Corinthius Dunbar - 2001 The Citadel
Tim Goodwell - 2001 University of Memphis
Terrell Jordan - 2001 Northwestern University
Patrick Reed - 2001 South Carolina State University
Bryce Wright - 2001 Savannah State University
Andrew Childers - 2002 Samford University
Vince Hill - 2002 The Citadel
Donald Shepherd - 2002 Maryville (TN) College
Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 10:06 AM
Dola--A reflection of how tough a schedule Tucker plays, take a look at the 2000 team. We had Seniors: QB Gene Pate going to Clemson, RB Jabari Davis going to Tennessee, OL/DL Darius Swain going to Georgia (and selling his SEC Championship ring :mad: ), RB/CB Stephen Ogletree going to JMU, LB/OL Greg Billingslea going to Memphis, and an obviously darn solid Junior class as well. That squad only went 10-3, losing a heartbreaker at Statesboro 8-7 in the state quarterfinals due to the penetration rule. :(
Easy Mac
06-20-2003, 10:10 AM
There's a penetration rule in Georgia? Talk about conservative.
I think I was in Georgia for some reason around the end ofthe last football season. I remember watching the championship game on TV.
Iceberg
06-20-2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by SkyDog
Rivals says that Maryland is leading the way
Music to my ears. I can only imagine what kind of numbers a good back could put up in the Fridge's offense. I the last two years he has turned two nobodies into 1000 yard rushers, i cant wait until he actually gets a gifted back into his backfield.
illinifan999
06-20-2003, 10:38 AM
In the second video towards the end at around the 25 second mark did anyone see the block that the QB put on one of the opposing teams players. That was awesome!
Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by illinifan999
In the second video towards the end at around the 25 second mark did anyone see the block that the QB put on one of the opposing teams players. That was awesome! That would be QB D.T. McDowell (http://gavarsity.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=17816), who Rivals lists as the #20 player in Georgia for the class of '04. (Tucker is the only school with 3 in the Top 20 for the state this year. :D) D.T. has scholly offers from LSU, Auburn and Mississippi State among others. However, he may get picked in the June 2004 MLB draft as as pitcher.
TroyF
06-20-2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by SkyDog
Tucker is definitely becoming a school that consistently churns out talent, particularly for a relatively small high school (about 1,300 students). We currently have a 26-game regular season winning streak, and are 36-5 over the past three seasons, playing in a TOUGH region. The Tucker Recreation League is top-notch, with kids receiving solid coaching from childhood on. This is a list of where some former Tigers are now. The 2002 team had at least couple more guys going on to the next level, but those are the ones I know off the top of my head. They haven't listed the 2002 team's school choices yet on their web site. (This is particularly impressive since we only had 10 seniors on the 2002 squad. Half or more of them will play in college.)
Not a single player at Texas. Give me a call back when Mack starts recruiting the high school. :)
TroyF
scooper
06-20-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by TroyF
Not a single player at Texas. Give me a call back when Mack starts recruiting the high school. :)
TroyF
They want to live up to their potential and win something :D
GoldenEagle
06-20-2003, 12:06 PM
Tell him to head to Memphis.
digamma
06-20-2003, 12:12 PM
Thomas Brown is the best all around football player to have come through Tucker. Or so I'm told. :)
tucker342
06-20-2003, 12:48 PM
He should go to Iowa:D
The top player in our area got arrested a couple weeks ago for assaulting 5 police officers, I hope things continue to go well for Thomas, I hope he doesn't ruin this amazing opportunity, but what you said about him, it seems like there is no chance:)
korme
06-20-2003, 01:18 PM
SkyDog, is Tucker a public school? What I'm trying to get at is, does Tucker get to recruit these kids, or do they just grow up in this education system.. pretty lucky to get that many D-I runners if that is the case. Milford's senior back last year is headed to V-Tech and he's the first big-time player I've seen come through Milford.
scooper
06-20-2003, 01:19 PM
That's because it's Milford. ;)
Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Shorty3281
SkyDog, is Tucker a public school? What I'm trying to get at is, does Tucker get to recruit these kids, or do they just grow up in this education system.. pretty lucky to get that many D-I runners if that is the case. Milford's senior back last year is headed to V-Tech and he's the first big-time player I've seen come through Milford. It is a public school. These guys grow up in Tucker. As I mentioned earlier, the Tucker Football League (recreational league...I think they can start at age 8) has outstanding coaching, and ends up being a breeding ground. The coaching staff at the high school is top-notch of course as well. Plus, once a high school program reaches that level, it is oftentimes self-sustaining: there are a whole lot of little boys in Tucker coming to games every Friday night, and many of them want nothing more than to be out there when they get to high school. The program is now definitely bigger than any one class or even coaching staff. We are on our third different head coach since I have been hanging out at THS (Fall 1997).
korme
06-20-2003, 01:29 PM
Kind of how our baseball team is. The head coaches and players of this past season have been together since they were in little league. Great coaching is probably the best reason all of those kids ended up so good.
scooper
06-20-2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Shorty3281
Kind of how our baseball team is. The head coaches and players of this past season have been together since they were in little league. Great coaching is probably the best reason all of those kids ended up so good.
Bingo.
Shorty, take a look at Colerain. They have a very good youth football program and a lot of kids to draw from, plus continuity in a successful program. It's no accident that they are the best football team in your league. That and they don't lose as many kids to LaSalle as say Lakota and Sycamore do to Moeller. I guess Moeller just has better recruiters :D
JeeberD
06-20-2003, 01:43 PM
UTEP!!!!
If he comes here he and Jordan Palmer (carson's little bro) will lead UTEP back to glory! He will be assured instant playing time, and UTEP has some great new football facilities.
GO MINERS!!!!
cthomer5000
06-20-2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by SkyDog
That squad only went 10-3, losing a heartbreaker at Statesboro 8-7 in the state quarterfinals due to the penetration rule. :(
I don't even want to know who was penetrated.
:eek:
Well since your pimpin him maybe I should pimp myself ;) maybe not did anyone see me on BET last night?
:)
noop
Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by cthomer5000
I don't even want to know who was penetrated.
:eek: OK. I guess I have to explain the penetration rule. In Georgia, if a playoff game goes 2 overtimes and the game is still tied, the team that has gotten further into the other team's territory during the 2 overtime periods receives one "penetration point" and is declared the winner.
GoldenEagle
06-20-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by SkyDog
OK. I guess I have to explain the penetration rule. In Georgia, if a playoff game goes 2 overtimes and the game is still tied, the team that has gotten further into the other team's territory during the 2 overtime periods receives one "penetration point" and is declared the winner.
Wow. That very well could be the dumbest high school rule in the country. I would hate to lose a game this way.
Ben E Lou
06-20-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by GoldenEagle
Wow. That very well could be the dumbest high school rule in the country. I would hate to lose a game this way. It truly stinks.
digamma
06-20-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by SkyDog
The coaching staff at the high school is top-notch of course as well.
I couldn't agree with you more!!!:)
tucker342
06-20-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by SkyDog
OK. I guess I have to explain the penetration rule. In Georgia, if a playoff game goes 2 overtimes and the game is still tied, the team that has gotten further into the other team's territory during the 2 overtime periods receives one "penetration point" and is declared the winner.
What a terrible rule! That would be a really crappy way to lose...
JeeberD
06-21-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Noop
Well since your pimpin him maybe I should pimp myself ;) maybe not did anyone see me on BET last night?
:)
noop
What were you doing on BET, noop?
Mad sports had something on Santana Moss and I was in the backround just clowin.
:)
noop
Ben E Lou
07-04-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by tucker342
What a terrible rule! That would be a really crappy way to lose... Yah...it REALLY, REALLY stinks.
Senator
07-04-2003, 08:56 PM
Let me whine. My senior year we were 9-1, and 4-1 in district play. The other two teams were 8-2 but also 4-1 in district. We beat Team A who beat Team B and Team B beat us. So, what did they do? One rainy Saturday morning they flipped coins, and we lost. I had been playing football since I was 4 years old to get to this point, and that is the best they could come up with? We had the best stats, the most points, every single statistical advantage, and we had to watch those other two teams make it to the State Semi and State Quarterfinal games. It still is one thing in my past that really gets under my skin.
Ben E Lou
07-04-2003, 08:58 PM
Dang...flipping a coin??? The penetration rule doesn't sound so bad by comparison. At least Statesboro drove deeper than we did in O.T.
JeeberD
07-04-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Senator
Let me whine. My senior year we were 9-1, and 4-1 in district play. The other two teams were 8-2 but also 4-1 in district. We beat Team A who beat Team B and Team B beat us. So, what did they do? One rainy Saturday morning they flipped coins, and we lost. I had been playing football since I was 4 years old to get to this point, and that is the best they could come up with? We had the best stats, the most points, every single statistical advantage, and we had to watch those other two teams make it to the State Semi and State Quarterfinal games. It still is one thing in my past that really gets under my skin.
Whoa, I didn't know that you played on the 1988 Midland High football team! :eek:
(And there's my one obscure Friday Night Lights reference for the year...)
tucker342
07-04-2003, 09:13 PM
You were on one of those teams involved??? What a terrible way to decide who goes...
That was a great book though.
JonInMiddleGA
07-04-2003, 10:27 PM
Senator - that situation sucks to be sure & it's not a completed isolated situation.
Until a few years ago in Georgia, playoff berths in those cases were determined by either coin toss or a vote of region coaches. The former was as ridiculous as the scenario you endured, the latter proved to be little more than a popularity contest between coaches, both screwed teams up & down the pike.
In the past few years, we've gone to a "mini-game" system to settle ties between three or four team (don't think there's been a five-way tie scenario).
GrantDawg
07-05-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by GoldenEagle
Tell him to head to Memphis.
So he can play in front of that huge crowd of 15,000 (and most of them wearing the opposing team colors.) :)
MrBug708
07-05-2003, 10:26 AM
So, when is Tucker coming to California to play De La Salle? Or Long Beach Poly?
Senator
07-05-2003, 12:08 PM
I think how they decided to fix the problem now in Texas is that just about every school gets in the playoffs. I think 3 teams per district make it. Also they have two different championships per classification - big school and small school. Two different 5A champs, two different 4A champs, ect..
It is not uncommon for a team to be seen in the playoiffs with a
3-7 record these days.
I could have lived with the fact we were beat flat out on the field. I would not have had the gnawing regret of what could have been.
I have had a good life since the old high school days. I have achieved more than I thought I would. But the effect it had was as if I lost my family. It was a horrible time. And most of my teammates never recovered. We had 40 plus guys on the team, and 3/4 went into a 20 year spiral. If I visit my parents and run into one of them in town, the FIRST thing they want to do is talk about how we were jipped at 17 or 18. It is sad really.
GoldenEagle
07-05-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by GrantDawg
So he can play in front of that huge crowd of 15,000 (and most of them wearing the opposing team colors.) :)
I resent that. We draw about 25,000 and its only when those dang SEC teams are in town is when the opposing colors are worn.
cuervo72
07-07-2003, 08:26 AM
In 1988 we got into the PIAA 4A state playoffs when Central Bucks West - who were I think ranked #1 in the state and were working on another one of their 50 game unbeaten streaks - was 10-0, but tied CB East on Thanksgiving. We were 11-0 and hadn't played CB West (obviously), so we went to the playoffs (and promptly had our butts kicked). It was strange considering we had already handed in all of our equipment a couple of weeks prior, expecting CB West to go 11-0.
tucker342
07-07-2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by MrBug708
So, when is Tucker coming to California to play De La Salle? Or Long Beach Poly?
How many in a row now for De La Salle?
digamma
07-11-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by SkyDog
That would be QB D.T. McDowell (http://gavarsity.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=17816), who Rivals lists as the #20 player in Georgia for the class of '04. (Tucker is the only school with 3 in the Top 20 for the state this year. :D) D.T. has scholly offers from LSU, Auburn and Mississippi State among others. However, he may get picked in the June 2004 MLB draft as as pitcher.
D.T. is now being heavily recruited by Nebraska.
D.T. is the most athletic quarterback I've seen at Tucker since 1990 when I started following their program.
Digamma - Can you post the video clips of D.T. up on here?
digamma
07-11-2003, 06:50 PM
I can't. I'm not a member of either Rivals or the Insiders.
Ben E Lou
07-11-2003, 07:14 PM
I'll put some D.T. videos up later tonight, or (more likely) tomorrow morning.
Ben E Lou
07-12-2003, 05:34 AM
As promised.
These videos showcase D.T. very well. He's got GREAT presence in the pocket. If the receiver is open, he'll throw from the pocket under pressure and take the hit. At times, he'll scramble to buy mnore time, then square up and complete the pass to the open receiver. If that isn't there, he'll take off and run it himself. On one play, you'll see him toss it 60 yards in the air, moving forward and to the left, while NOT squared up. :eek: Of course, with D.T. and Thomas back there, the option this year was particularly devastating. Here are the videos:
http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/dtmcdowell/FB04MCDOWELLDT1.wmv
http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/dtmcdowell/FB04MCDOWELLDT2.wmv
http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/dtmcdowell/FB04MCDOWELLDT3.wmv
http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/dtmcdowell/FB04MCDOWELLDT4.wmv
http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/dtmcdowell/FB04MCDOWELLDT5.wmv
Ben E Lou
07-12-2003, 05:46 AM
Dola--
The one potential knock on D.T. is that he isn't exactly as humble as Thomas. OK. OK.....I'm not sure he's exactly as humble as Barry Bonds. An article from last week...When it comes to athletic quarterbacks, D.T. McDowell is one of the nation's best. He has a great arm and can run. Mark my words... McDowell will be a HOT name this fall. He also happens to be one of the top baseball prospects as well.
The state of Georgia is blessed with some super signal callers this season - A.J. Bryant (Georgia commitment), Alex Mortensen, Calvin Booker, and Cullen Harper. One other quarterback to keep a serious eye on is D.T. McDowell from Tucker, Georgia. After this season, look for his recruiting stock to sky rocket.
On film, he is very impressive, showing great play making ability with his strong arm and running ability. McDowell also happens to be one of the country's top baseball prospects.
"I love both football and baseball," McDowell said. "I would love to play both sports in college. But I need to see what happens in June (2004). I will keep all of my options open."
McDowell is a pitcher and center fielder. He has recently been clocked throwing a 94 mile per hour fastball. Last season, he was 10-1 with a 1.07 ERA and he hit .427 with nine home runs.
This summer, he has been playing baseball with the Knoxville Yardbirds. They have traveled to Florida, Nebraska, Missouri and even Australia to play.
Last season as the quarterback for Tucker, McDowell passed for 1,550 yards and 14 touchdowns. He also rushed for 13 scores. He can do it all.
"I have the ability to throw and I have a very strong arm. I can run too. I just like to go out there and make plays. We opened up the offense last season and I worked very hard."
McDowell also has the luxury to hand the ball off to the state's top running back and one of the top prospects in the country in Thomas Brown. The two are very close.
"He is like my best friend. It takes a load off me to have him back there. He has my back and I have his. If they stop me I just give it to my boy."
This summer, McDowell has visited both Auburn and Nebraska. He camped with the Tigers and came away impressed. While he was playing baseball in Nebraska, he stopped to see the Cornhuskers.
"Auburn was a great camp. I did very well there. I saw their facilities, stadium and met with Coach (Tommy) Tuberville. He seems like a very interesting person.
“Nebraska was real cool. I got to throw the ball with Turner Gill. I thought he was just an ordinary coach... I said ‘Turner who?’ And people started telling me what a great player he was at Nebraska. That was humbling.
“But Nebraska was great. I also hit coach (Frank) Solich running a post pattern right in his hands. He just took off running. He said that was my first TD pass in Memorial Stadium. I told him it wouldn't be my last.
“Coach Solich and I are a lot alike. We both like to joke around but we are both very serious too.”
Currently, Nebraska and Auburn are his two favorites. McDowell also is looking at Georgia, Mississippi State, Clemson and Florida State. If there is one team to watch out for, it’s the Georgia Bulldogs. He will attend their one day camp later this month.
“I have been to Georgia and it’s nice there. But I have not yet met coach (Mark) Richt. I hope to see him at the senior camp. I know they want to see me in person. I need to show them D.T. McDowell. I have to earn their respect and the respect of this state. There is always a lot of talent and some good quarterbacks this season but I know I can compete against anyone. Like I said, I have to go out and earn it. Georgia is no different. I am not scared on competing there. In fact, I wouldn’t mind putting on the red and black. They were my childhood dream team.”
So McDowell, like some other two-sport stars on the past, will have two tough decisions to make in the next 11 months. For now, he is just getting ready for his senior year and we know one decision will be made on Signing Day in 2004.
“I know I will be going somewhere for four years or so, so I want to be comfortable wherever I choose. Distance doesn’t matter but the coaching staff does. They have to interact well and get along with the players. Offensive scheme will be important to because I want to have the ability to run the ball.
“Right now, it’s Nebraska or Auburn. They are my leaders.”
In addition to be a star on the diamond and gridiron, McDowell isn’t bad on the links as well. He shoots in the low to mid 80s. He will also camp at LSU later this month. The good news for Dawg fans is that IF Georgia offers (once he "shows them D.T. McDowell" ;)), I doubt that he'd be deterred by the presence of A.J. Bryant in the recruiting class.
MrBug708
07-12-2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by tucker342
How many in a row now for De La Salle?
120 or so I believe? Since 1990
tucker342
07-12-2003, 07:37 PM
That's incredible.... how are they looking this year?
Frifoff
07-12-2003, 08:37 PM
Here is another awesome RB but from last year's recruiting class. 6'1 200 lbs. Austin Scott (PSU frosh) racked up over 3,330 yards last year. He flew under most people's radar because he missed his junior season with a knee injury. Had he been healthy his junior year he would've been top 5 overall in nation. Here is a link to some videos of his runs (scott6 prob best):
Austin Scott (http://www.yrteam.net/ascottvid.html)
MrBug708
07-12-2003, 08:40 PM
Pretty much the same I guess. They are NorCal and I live in SoCal. LBP has more talent, but is poorly ran
tucker342
07-12-2003, 09:16 PM
What city is De La Salle in anyways?
JeeberD
07-12-2003, 11:34 PM
Dammit SkyDog, you gotta talk at least one of your Tucker kids into coming to UTEP. Sounds like there's some amazing talent on your team...
tucker342
07-13-2003, 12:35 AM
NO! There all going to Iowa!:D
bigdawg2003
07-28-2003, 10:37 AM
Just read it in the ESPN recruiting section. Highly touted QB Rhett Bomar commits to OU
Link (http://espn.go.com/recruiting/s/2003/0728/1586302.html)
And Florida State got 4 star QB Drew Weatherford and 4 star RB Jamaal Edwards.
QuikSand
07-28-2003, 11:16 AM
Hmmm.. wonder how ol' SkyDog will feel about UGa getting Brown. ::grins::
Ben E Lou
07-28-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by QuikSand
Hmmm.. wonder how ol' SkyDog will feel about UGa getting Brown. ::grins:: Dang. I just got back from practice. I wanted to break this news myself! He told me around 9:30am at a break in practice.
Ben E Lou
07-28-2003, 11:24 AM
Incidentally, one of our WR's has committed to Auburn also.
Sky what about Brandon Lang where is he leaning.
Ben E Lou
07-28-2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Noop
Sky what about Brandon Lang where is he leaning. If Georgia offers, he'll be there. If not, I'm betting on FSU.
Do you know any reason why Georgia hasn't offered? But if they want him I'm sure Florida State will take him gladly.
:)
noop
www.warchant.com
bigdawg2003
07-28-2003, 11:32 AM
SD
Sorry about stealing your thunder. Do you think Brown will eventually sign with Georgia or do you think he'll consider other schools still and maybe change his commitment at some point before signing day.
Ben E Lou
07-28-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Noop
Do you know any reason why Georgia hasn't offered? But if they want him I'm sure Florida State will take him gladly.
:)
noop
www.warchant.com I'm guessing that they are concerned about him not being able to beef up. Brandon is a lanky kid, listed at 6'4", and as much as 225 in some places, but he's really probably barely 210.
This is gonna be a fun year for our relatively small school (<1,400 students). We've got four kids who are locks for BCS Conferences, and maybe as many as 7.
Ben E Lou
07-28-2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by bigdawg2003
SD
Sorry about stealing your thunder. Do you think Brown will eventually sign with Georgia or do you think he'll consider other schools still and maybe change his commitment at some point before signing day. No prob on stealin' the thunder. Guess I should have posted from my PalmPilot at practice. :p
Thomas has a strong family that he'd like to be near, has former teammate Darius Swain in Athens, and may have good buddy Brandon Lang there with him as well. Plus, he's been a Georgia fan since childhood. Unless something weird happens (like Kregg Lumpkin grabbing the starting spot this year), I'd be surprised if he changes his mind. Tucker has never won a state championship, and a big part of Thomas giving a verbal early is that he wants to focus on changing that this year.
scooper
07-28-2003, 11:44 AM
Threadjack since I know Noop is haning out in this thread:
Hey Noop, I don't know much about hip hop so I don't know who or what it is, but there was song song playing in a bar the other night with the Seminole War Chant playing throughout it. In spite of that not being my kind of music, it was done pretty well. The song was both cool and annoying at the same time. By now, I'm sure you know what song it is.
mckerney
07-28-2003, 11:47 AM
You're high school's a helluva lot better at football than mine. Since the one good player who went through my school (he did end up an All American at Texas though, but that was a long time ago) we really haven't had any good football players. The next two years are probably going to see one guy going to Division I football, and that's only because they're big linemen. Decent skills, but no where near some of the other players that we've had recently.
Originally posted by scooper
Threadjack since I know Noop is haning out in this thread:
Hey Noop, I don't know much about hip hop so I don't know who or what it is, but there was song song playing in a bar the other night with the Seminole War Chant playing throughout it. In spite of that not being my kind of music, it was done pretty well. The song was both cool and annoying at the same time. By now, I'm sure you know what song it is.
Its called "Shake Ya Tailfeather" by Nelly ft P.Diddy, Murphy Lee.
:)
noop
Anrhydeddu
07-28-2003, 11:49 AM
mck, it's the difference between living in the North and living in the South. In the South, things like this are holy and sacred.
mckerney
07-28-2003, 11:54 AM
That's one thing I know, and my school was even worse than most for a while. No one really played, and those who didn't didn't put any work into it.
I am kinda glad I went to school where I did though, because I don't think I'd have gotten on the field that much down south. Though up here I got to play, and at noseguard nonetheless (no matter how undersized I was for it)
Anrhydeddu
07-28-2003, 11:59 AM
Exactly. In my travels, I perceive that Southern HS football is bigger and more important than many college programs here in the West and in New England. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
JeeberD
07-28-2003, 12:00 PM
One of my big regrets is not playing football in high school. I had the size for it (6'2" 210) and coaches were always bugging me to play, but for some reason I always said no. Bad decision. Especially since 6'2" white boys with no hops don't get far in basketball (which was my true love)...
mckerney
07-28-2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by JeeberD
One of my big regrets is not playing football in high school. I had the size for it (6'2" 210) and coaches were always bugging me to play, but for some reason I always said no. Bad decision. Especially since 6'2" white boys with no hops don't get far in basketball (which was my true love)...
5'11" white boys with no hops also don't get far, but my intramural team still went undefeated! :D
JeeberD
07-28-2003, 12:22 PM
Yeah, well, my work softball team has a perfect record also....
So what if it's a perfect losing record...
Ksyrup
07-28-2003, 12:35 PM
Although I went to high school in Georgia, we had no one from all 4 years make it to any college football program that I'm aware of - aside from one guy who was 5th string WR for GT one year (I think he walked on). The only year we were any good, our star tailback was ruled to have illegally transferred to our school, and we had to forfeit all of our games, matching our win total from at least 1 of my other years there!.
However, I did get to see Andre Hastings score 3 TDs against my team. That was fun, in a hindsight kinda way.
cthomer5000
07-28-2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Ksyrup
Although I went to high school in Georgia, we had no one from all 4 years make it to any college football program that I'm aware of - aside from one guy who was 5th string WR for GT one year (I think he walked on). The only year we were any good, our star tailback was ruled to have illegally transferred to our school, and we had to forfeit all of our games, matching our win total from at least 1 of my other years there!.
However, I did get to see Andre Hastings score 3 TDs against my team. That was fun, in a hindsight kinda way.
New Jersey here. To my knowledge only 2 players have gone on to play I-AA (from my school), and both of them to Ivy League schools. I started and lettered at left tackle my senior year, and I can personally say we had maybe one college caliber player, but he transfered out of our high school after his sophomore year.
Ben E Lou
07-28-2003, 02:05 PM
Well, it's not like EVERY HS in the South is sending multiple guys to D-1 every season. Tucker, particularly for a school as small as it is, is a top-tier program, with a current 26-game regular season winning streak, playing in a tough Region. Performance definitely begets performance. When Jabari Davis was younger, he knew he had to work VERY hard to be as good as Patrick Pass. When Terrell Jordan was Jabari's backup, he saw what it took in the weight room and on the practice field for the "J-Train" to be the J-Train, and he earned himself a scholly to Northwestern. When Thomas was in the weight room with Terrell, he saw Jordan's hard work and dedication. Thomas imitated that, and now he'll be a Dawg. Brandon Young, Thomas' understudy at TB, works his butt off in the weight room and practice field as well, because that's what he has seen Thomas do. Because of that legacy, "B.Y.", in the Class of '05, will most likely be the 5th consecutive Tucker tailback to go D-1.
cuervo72
07-28-2003, 02:14 PM
I can remember 3 from high school that made it to major programs from the years I played, one each year. Brian Moser at Penn State, Mike Frederick at UVa, and Cornelius White at VTech.
Some others I'm finding are Chris Vincent, currently at Oregon; Antoine Lovelace, spent 2 years at Rutgers, and Jamar Brittingham who just signed at Rutgers. It also looks like Mark Cordelli might have played at Arkansas under Lou Holtz?
mckerney
07-28-2003, 04:04 PM
As far as watching players who became good, my sophomore year my school played Holy Angels from Minnesota, a team that featured WR Larry Fitzgerald. We were able to do a decent job against him and he didn't have all that good a game.
Ben E Lou
07-28-2003, 04:15 PM
From http://www.tuckertigersfootball.comProfessional Players
Kevin Turks - 1994 Chicago Bears (Pro Scout)
Patrick Pass - 1996 New England Patriots
College Players
Jason Culp - 1998 Morehead State
Trey Mathews - 1998 University of Tennessee/Chattanooga
Bernard Snowden - 1998 University of Tennessee/Chattanooga
Nick Whiteside - 1998 Kentucky Wesleyan
Bryan Lamar - 1999 University of Tennessee/Chattanooga
Greg Billingslea - 2000 University of Memphis
Jabari Davis - 2000 University of Tennessee
Stephen Ogletree - 2000 James Madison University
Gene Pate - 2000 Clemson University
Darius Swain - 2000 University of Georgia
Jamar Bell - 2001 Norfolk State University
Corinthius Dunbar - 2001 The Citadel
Tim Goodwell - 2001 University of Memphis
Terrell Jordan - 2001 Northwestern University
Patrick Reed - 2001 South Carolina State University
Bryce Wright - 2001 Savannah State University
tucker342
07-28-2003, 06:08 PM
he should have gone to Iowa:D
congrats to him, I hope he does well at Georgia:)
digamma
07-28-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by SkyDog
Because of that legacy, "B.Y.", in the Class of '05, will most likely be the 5th consecutive Tucker tailback to go D-1.
He might actually be the 6th, as Vince Griffin who was class of 94 went to Middle Tennessee State. I think they are D-1 now, but I'm not sure if they were when Vince went there.
(Incidentally, the 93 team probably started this run--although some may argue that it was 87 or 88. That team went 9-1, but lost its first round play-off game to Columbia by one point in overtime. Tucker scored with :36 seconds left in OT. Columbia then scored in three plays (all passes to Juan Gaston, who played basketball for Georgia Tech before transferring to a smaller school where he could play football and basketball) with one second left and had to go for two because Tucker had a penetration edge. They got it. Tucker could have downed the ball before they scored and won on penetration, but the head coach was worried about a fumble and wanted the points. Skydog, if you remember the Creekside play-off game from a few years ago; it was eerily similar. The 94 team then went to the state semifinals.)
BillyMadison
07-28-2003, 06:55 PM
Skydog--- you are the coach? Wow... thats cool.
Go Notre Dame.
Ben E Lou
07-28-2003, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by BillyMadison
Skydog--- you are the coach? Wow... thats cool.
Go Notre Dame. No, not the coach. I work for a non-denominational outreach ministry. A big part of my job is being directly involved in kids' lives, so I spend a lot of time at practices, games, etc., so I'm around the high school a LOT (generally I'm at something involving THS kids at least 3 days a week). Several kids who don't know me THINK I'm a coach or teacher since they see me around a good bit. Invariably I'll go to the grocery store or the Chick-Fil-A, get served by a teenager who I don't know, and they'll say, "Don't you coach at Tucker?" or "Don't you teach at Tucker?"
GrantDawg
07-28-2003, 11:01 PM
Good news, good news. :)
Ben E Lou
07-30-2003, 08:18 AM
Preseason rankings according to Rivals.com...
South
1. Palm Bay, Melbourne, Fla. (13-2)
2. Parkview, Lilburn, Ga. (15-0)
3. Evangel Christian, Shreveport, La. (14-1)
4. Lufkin, Texas (12-3)
5. Lincoln, Tallahassee, Fla. (12-1-1)
6. Trinity, Louisville, Ky. (15-0)
7. Independence, Charlotte, N.C. (16-0)
8. Ennis, Texas (13-2)
9. Edison, Miami, Fla. (9-2)
10. Texarkana Texas High, Texarkana, Texas (14-1)
11. Summerville, S.C. (11-3)
12. Richmond County, Rockingham, N.C. (12-1)
13. Hoover, Ala. (13-1)
14. The Woodlands, Texas (7-5)
15. Rockledge, Fla. (14-1)
16. Wayne County, Waynesboro, Miss. (14-1)
17. Union, S.C. (14-1)
18. Tucker, Ga. (12-1)
19. Columbia, Lake City, Fla. (11-2)
20. Waco, Texas (11-1)
21. South Panola, Batesville, Miss. (14-1)
22. Brentwood, Tenn. (14-1)
23. Byrnes, Duncan, S.C. (14-1)
24. West Monroe, La. (11-4)
25. Prattville, Ala. (12-2)
:eek: Wow! Of the handful of those schools that I am familiar with, all are sgnificantly larger than Tucker. (Parkview is DOUBLE our size.) Good to see the Tigers gettin' some love.
GrantDawg
07-30-2003, 09:07 AM
That is big, SD. Another thing that is big is they are the only two from Georgia in the top ten! Where have all the power-houses gone?
mckerney
07-30-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by BillyMadison
Go Notre Dame.
Hmm... That explains a lot to me.
Ben E Lou
07-30-2003, 04:16 PM
These boys are serious about focusing on the matter at hand during the season. D.T., our QB, went ahead and committed to Nebraska. D.T. is a big baseball prospect as well. If he gets drafted, I wonder if he'll ever play a down for the 'Huskers.
mckerney
07-30-2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by SkyDog
These boys are serious about focusing on the matter at hand during the season. D.T., our QB, went ahead and committed to Nebraska. D.T. is a big baseball prospect as well. If he gets drafted, I wonder if he'll ever play a down for the 'Huskers.
Nebraska is said to be looking at a player who goes to my old school and will be a junior this year. He started every game at offensive tackle as a sophomore last year, and he's mainly getting looks because of his size, as he was 6'7" and around 270 as a freshman.
GoldenEagle
07-30-2003, 04:28 PM
I was hoping this kid was going to Memphis.
Ben E Lou
07-30-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by GoldenEagle
I was hoping this kid was going to Memphis. Well, of D.T., Brandon, Thomas and James, I'd say D.T. would be "most likely to waffle." That being said, if D.T. were a TCY recruit, he'd be a Prestige* guy, and would be black or red coded for a place like Memphis.
Ben E Lou
08-26-2004, 10:37 AM
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<mcc story="">Thomas Brown missed nearly two weeks of preseason practice with a pulled hamstring but apparently is making up for lost time.</mcc>
<!--Begin ad/tools box--><!-- end ad/tools box --> The 5-foot-8, 185-pound freshman from Tucker High suddenly is very much in the picture at tailback after his impressive showings at practice this week including Monday's scrimmage.
"He got back in the scrimmage the other day and I was totally surprised," offensive tackle Daniel Inman said. "That kid right there is going to be something special."
"He doesn't seem to be intimidated by any thing," coach Mark Richt said. "He's got quicks, running skills and ball skills. I really like him. He's going to be a heck of a player." Whether Brown plays as a freshman could depend on the health of running backs Tony Milton (shin splints after leg surgery), Michael Cooper (heel) and Tyson Browning (hyperextended knee). Starting tailback Danny Ware is the only freshman who hasn't missed practice time.
"Some of it might have to do whether Milton really comes back in full speed," Richt said. "Will Tyson come back in time? Is Cooper going to be 100 percent healthy? Those may be a factor. Regardless of all of those other names, he's been impressive."
albionmoonlight
08-26-2004, 10:41 AM
"He doesn't seem to be intimidated by any thing," coach Mark Richt said. "He's got quicks, running skills and ball skills. I really like him. He's going to be a heck of a player. And even though I am not gay, watching him run gives me an erection."
:eek: Looks like that old man was right!:eek:
sovereignstar
08-26-2004, 10:51 AM
Are "all of those other names" freshman backs? If so, how?
Ben E Lou
08-26-2004, 10:54 AM
Are "all of those other names" freshman backs? If so, how?To get around scholarship limits, we have wealthy boosters legally adopt a few recruits right before their 18th birthday, then pay their college tuititon. Technically, they're all walk-ons. ;)
sovereignstar
08-26-2004, 11:04 AM
So where do you think he's listed on a depth chart? Have some of the others been reshirted? I thought with him being ranked as one of the few best backs in the country last year and UG's starter going down, that he had a chance for some serious playing time. The article doesn't really support that thought.
JonInMiddleGA
08-26-2004, 11:06 AM
Are "all of those other names" freshman backs? If so, how?
No, they aren't. That's just an awkward sentence construction on the part of the writer. I believe the only other freshman in that group is Ware (the healthy guy).
sovereignstar
08-26-2004, 11:10 AM
No, they aren't. That's just an awkward sentence construction on the part of the writer. I believe the only other freshman in that group is Ware (the healthy guy).
Gotcha, thanks. I thought of that possibility. http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
GrantDawg
08-26-2004, 11:34 AM
To get around scholarship limits, we have wealthy boosters legally adopt a few recruits right before their 18th birthday, then pay their college tuititon. Technically, they're all walk-ons. ;)
Gold.
Ben E Lou
08-26-2004, 11:47 AM
So where do you think he's listed on a depth chart? Have some of the others been reshirted? I thought with him being ranked as one of the few best backs in the country last year and UG's starter going down, that he had a chance for some serious playing time. The article doesn't really support that thought.That's a big question. If Georgia can get by with Cooper/Ware/Milton, then it might make sense to red-shirt Thomas and save that year of eligibility. However, there are other factors at work here:
Expectations are very high this year in Athens. If Thomas ends up being even a slightly better option, he'll play.
Thomas is a good student, went to school this summer, and will likely continue to go during the summers. He may graduate in four years.
Thomas is "going to be something special" on the field. Looking ahead, if he's graduated in four years AND has the chance to make the big bucks in the NFL right then, I'd say that the chances of him sticking around for year 5 and risking injury would be extremely minimal.
Up until now, he'd missed a week of contact drills, and was a true freshman. Everyone had been thinking '"red-shirt." Now that they've seen him in action, it sounds like thinking is about to be adjusted.
My guess is that barring injury he'll be getting significant work, if not starting, by midseason. I've seen Jabari Davis, Mack Strong, Garrison Hearst, Joe Burns and Patrick Pass (among others) as high school players. Thomas was ahead of every one of them in HS, and the last time I saw him up close (about 3 weeks ago), it looked like he'd gained another 5-10 pounds of muscle. I mentioned it elsewhere, but his power numbers are better than most of UGA's LB's and TE's, and comparable to many of the linemen. :eek: His power index (strength totals compared to weight) is THE best on the entire UGA roster; he's pound-for-pound the strongest player on the team, and (arguably) the quickest as well.
Franklinnoble
08-26-2004, 12:26 PM
To get around scholarship limits, we have wealthy boosters legally adopt a few recruits right before their 18th birthday, then pay their college tuititon. Technically, they're all walk-ons. ;)
This needs to be an available feature in TCY2.
Seriously.
Ben E Lou
08-27-2004, 05:02 AM
...From the AJC...
Another freshman rushes into picture
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 8/26/04
<!--END LEFT BOX--> Athens -- Though freshman Danny Ware has solidified his status as Georgia's starting tailback, another freshman, Thomas Brown from Tucker High, has made a surge over the past week to make his case to be one of the primary backups.
"He's looked good. He was impressive again today," coach Mark Richt said Thursday. "He's catching people's eye."
Most noticeably Richt's. So much so, that any reluctance he might have about utilizing two freshmen at such a vital position in a season with national championship aspirations is rapidly eroding.
"I'm not afraid of anybody out there right now," Richt said.
Brown, a muscle-packed, 5-foot-8, 185-pound 18-year-old, has been the talk of practice this week among players and coaches. He scored two touchdowns in a practice game Thursday against a scout team of players emulating season-opening foe Georgia Southern to cap a highlight-packed few days.
"Thomas Brown, he was in the scrimmage the other day, I was totally surprised," starting offensive tackle Daniel Inman said. "That kid right there is going to be something special."
Said Brown, who broke his leg as a senior at Tucker but rushed for 941 yards and 17 touchdowns: "I've shown the ability to break tackles, hit the hole, I can pick up blitzes, catch the ball out the backfield. I can make things happen. That's the bottom line."
What could determine if Brown plays this season is his ability to understand the offense, particularly blitz pickups, a weakness in Georgia's backfield last season. He's shown the grit to stick his facemask into a surging linebacker's chest, but will he know what to do if a linebacker and cornerback rush from the same side?
"Reading the defense is the hardest part for me right now," Brown said.
To learn, Brown said he studies his playbook at every opportunity and he's been studying film to pinpoint flaws and tendencies.
Brown's out-of-nowhere burst comes after he missed roughly 10 days of practice because of a strained right hamstring. He is battling junior Tony Milton and sophomore Michael Cooper, last season's leading rusher, to get into the rotation.
Milton, recovering from surgery on his left leg, and Cooper (bruised left Achilles tendon) are not fully healthy, and junior Tyson Browning is out with a hyperextended left knee that could keep him sidelined through the weekend.
The level of competition among the tailbacks is expected to be relentless in the days leading up to the first game.
"Danny's No. 1," Richt said. "We're trying to find out who's No. 2."
As much as Brown as shown, there remains the possibility that he could be redshirted. There seems to be some sentiment among coaches not to burn off a year of Brown's eligibility in a season when he might touch the ball five times a game. However, there's no promise that won't be the case throughout his career at Georgia.
Ware will have three more years of eligibility after this season, as will Kregg Lumpkin, the projected starter whose season ended when he tore his anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee on the first day of practice.
"Whatever the coaches want me to do I have to accept it and go with it," Brown said. "I just wanted to make sure I gave myself an opportunity to prove myself to the coaches so I have a chance to play this year."
Brown, a muscle-packed, 5-foot-8, 185-pound
Me thinks he will be too short for the NFL, no ?
Ben E Lou
08-27-2004, 05:19 AM
Brown, a muscle-packed, 5-foot-8, 185-pound
Me thinks he will be too short for the NFL, no ?Yeah, probably. ;)
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LOL : SkyDog, I wish him he has a barry sanders like career, plus a ring or two
EDIT : to add the rings ;)
Ben E Lou
08-27-2004, 05:28 AM
That would be a bit much to hope for. I thnk everyone in Tucker would be quite proud for him to have for a Dunn-like career.
Incidentally, I think this may be a rare case of under-reporting. I think he's closer to 5'9" than 5'8". I usually measure in the 5'11" range, and here he is next to me...
http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tuckersign/thumbs/Tucker%20Signing%20Day%202K4%20054.jpg
ncidentally, I think this may be a rare case of under-reporting. I think he's closer to 5'9" than 5'8". I usually measure in the 5'11" range, and here he is next to me...
So you usually measure 5'11'' ;). Anyway, I agree, he looks closer to your size than his 5'8''.
And a Dunn like career would make him a rich man already.
Ben E Lou
09-05-2004, 11:45 AM
No red-shirt for Thomas this year. 5 carries for 19 yards and a TD. One kickoff return for 18 yards. From what I saw yesterday, it appears that Richt views him as the #2 tailback right now.
cthomer5000
09-05-2004, 05:39 PM
Does that make true freshman 1-2 on the depth chart at RB?
sovereignstar
09-05-2004, 05:48 PM
No red-shirt for Thomas this year. 5 carries for 19 yards and a TD. One kickoff return for 18 yards. From what I saw yesterday, it appears that Richt views him as the #2 tailback right now.
:thumbsup:
JonInMiddleGA
09-05-2004, 06:03 PM
Does that make true freshman 1-2 on the depth chart at RB?
Yup.
Looks like "The Year of the Freshman" in the SEC, with Ware/Brown at UGA and the freshmen duo at QB for UT.
Ben E Lou
09-05-2004, 07:18 PM
Does that make true freshman 1-2 on the depth chart at RB?Sure, if you count a guy who spent a semester at "Prep School" and a semester at UGA last year as a "true" freshman. The way that eligibility works for non-qualifiers strikes me as a bit odd.
Ben E Lou
10-03-2004, 11:09 AM
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=TTitle align=left>Thomas Brown - RB</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=5> </TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=4>Rushing</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=4>Receiving</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=2>Total</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=2>2 Pt Conv</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Date</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Opponent</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>W/L</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Score</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Pos</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Att</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Yds</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>TD</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Avg</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Rec</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Yds</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>TD</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Avg</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Yds</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>TD</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Run</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Pass</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>Sep. 04</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>Georgia Southern</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>W</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>48 - 28</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>RB</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>5</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>19</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>3.8</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>19</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>Sep. 18</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>Marshall</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>W</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>13 - 3</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>RB</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>18</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>81</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>4.5</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>6</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>6.0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>87</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>Oct. 02</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>LSU</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>W</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>45 - 16</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>RB</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>13</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>81</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>6.2</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>81</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData4 align=left colSpan=5>TOTALS</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>36</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>181</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>2</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>5.0</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>6</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>6.0</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>187</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>2</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Ben E Lou
10-03-2004, 11:18 AM
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=TTitle align=left>Darius Walker - RB</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=5> </TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=4>Rushing</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=4>Receiving</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=2>Total</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle colSpan=2>2 Pt Conv</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Date</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Opponent</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>W/L</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Score</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Pos</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Att</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Yds</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>TD</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Avg</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Rec</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Yds</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>TD</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Avg</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Yds</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>TD</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Run</TD><TD class=TSubHead2 align=middle>Pass</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>Sep. 11</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>Michigan</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>W</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>28 - 20</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>RB</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>31</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>115</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>2</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>3.7</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>115</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>2</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>Sep. 18</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>Michigan St.</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>W</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>31 - 24</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>RB</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>26</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>98</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>3.8</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>3</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>3.0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>101</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>Sep. 25</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>Washington</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>W</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>38 - 3</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>RB</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>23</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>81</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>3.5</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0.0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>81</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>Oct. 02</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>Purdue</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>L</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>16 - 41</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=left>RB</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>19</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>60</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>3.2</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>2</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>16</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>8.0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>76</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData2 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData4 align=left colSpan=5>TOTALS</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>99</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>354</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>3</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>3.6</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>3</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>19</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>6.3</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>373</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>3</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>0</TD><TD class=TData4 noWrap align=right>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
korme
10-03-2004, 05:59 PM
skydog, that is sweet that you know this guy. i want to say to my friends that I knew who he was. But then I don't want to explain "Tucker HS, how do I know this? Um see this Skydog guy, he's a dictator and he has a real life dynasty in Dynasty Reports... nevermind"
Ben E Lou
10-03-2004, 06:00 PM
skydog, that is sweet that you know this guy. i want to say to my friends that I knew who he was. But then I don't want to explain "Tucker HS, how do I know this? Um see this Skydog guy, he's a dictator and he has a real life dynasty in Dynasty Reports... nevermind":D
cthomer5000
10-03-2004, 06:04 PM
It's odd, because I find myself rooting for him and associating him with FOFC so strongly..
I was happy to see him run through that D-lineman for the TD yesterday.
Ben E Lou
10-03-2004, 06:07 PM
Actually, I posted those stats in the wrong thread. In the thread I was thinking of, we were talking about Richt's decision to promise Thomas that if he'd sign, there'd be no other RB's in the class. Some folks in the state weren't too happy, considering Darius Walker was the "other" in-state stud RB. The bottom line is that I think UGA was only going to sign one RB regardless.
cthomer5000
10-03-2004, 06:10 PM
What school is Walker at?
Ben E Lou
10-03-2004, 06:10 PM
Notre Dame.
Ben E Lou
10-03-2004, 06:12 PM
Dola:
Honestly, I think if Walker had signed with Clemson, Auburn, Tech, Alabama, Tennesseee, etc., and not a Yankee team, none of the good ol' boys would have raised an eyebrow. After all, Georgia has so many good young backs with Cooper/Ware/Lumpkin/Brown. I think the fact that he went to Notre Dame caused more controversy.
GrantDawg
10-03-2004, 07:53 PM
Dola:
Honestly, I think if Walker had signed with Clemson, Auburn, Tech, Alabama, Tennesseee, etc., and not a Yankee team, none of the good ol' boys would have raised an eyebrow. After all, Georgia has so many good young backs with Cooper/Ware/Lumpkin/Brown. I think the fact that he went to Notre Dame caused more controversy.
I disaggre. I know personsally I would have been more upset if he had went to Tennessee or Florida. Going to Notre Dame means he'll most likely never run over us. :)
Ben E Lou
10-03-2004, 07:54 PM
Yeah, but that's rational thought...
GrantDawg
10-03-2004, 08:05 PM
Yeah, but that's rational thought...
Thank you. I so rarely get accused of rational thought on this board.
tucker342
10-03-2004, 09:16 PM
Good to see that he's doing so well:)
Ben E Lou
10-03-2004, 09:27 PM
Good to see that he's doing so well:)Yup.
D.T. is struggling a bit...
2004 Troy Team Stats
Passing
NAME G ATT COM PCT YDS YDS/ATT YDS/G INT TD
1. Aaron Leak 50 960 480 50.0 6830 7.1 136.6 60 50
2. Jason Samples 5 1 1 100.0 27 27.0 5.4 0 1
3. D T Mcdowell 4 13 3 23.1 18 1.4 4.5 2 0
Totals 5 974 484 49.7 6875 7.1 1,375.0 62 51
Ben E Lou
11-06-2004, 02:30 PM
Ware hurt his knee early on, and Thomas has come up huge. He's got 120+ yards and 3 TD's on the day. Darius who?
JeeberD
11-06-2004, 02:34 PM
That's awesome, it's great to see him doing so well.
Too bad he's only the third best true freshman running back in the country, though... ;)
Ben E Lou
11-06-2004, 02:38 PM
That's awesome, it's great to see him doing so well.
Too bad he's only the third best true freshman running back in the country, though... ;)Second. He'd already moved up to sharing equal time with Ware, with better ypc and equal TD's, and Danny has shown a penchant for putting the ball on the ground. He turned it over twice today. I'm going out on a limb right here, right now: Danny Ware has seen his last day as the #1 TB at UGA.
JeeberD
11-06-2004, 02:46 PM
Oh, I wasn't talking about Ware, I was talking about UNT's Jamario Thomas (http://www.meangreensports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1800&KEY=&SPID=562&SPSID=9058). The kid came in when last years national leading rusher Patrick Cobb got injured, and he hasn't looked back. He's leading the nation in rushing and has five game of over 200 yards out of the seven games he's played... :)
"Thomas finished the game with 203 rushing yards, giving him the NCAA Division I-A record for most 200-yard games as a freshman with five (breaking the record of four by Herschel Walker of Georgia and Ron Dayne of Wisconsin). He also became the only player in North Texas history to have five 200-yard games in his career and the only player in the nation to have five 200-yard games this season."
http://www.meangreensports.com//pics24/800/PS/PSEADGBZBVCCZPG.20041025151807.jpg
wbatl1
11-06-2004, 03:03 PM
Second. He'd already moved up to sharing equal time with Ware, with better ypc and equal TD's, and Danny has shown a penchant for putting the ball on the ground. He turned it over twice today. I'm going out on a limb right here, right now: Danny Ware has seen his last day as the #1 TB at UGA.
I agree. I believe Richt has seen enough of Ware's fumbling, and would rather have a steadier hand against Auburn. Nevermind that Brown has looked better that Ware recently(who has been beat up). Now, if Brown can look good against a top 5 team, thats a different story ;) .
TargetPractice6
11-06-2004, 03:52 PM
Ware hurt his knee early on, and Thomas has come up huge. He's got 120+ yards and 3 TD's on the day. Darius who?Just got back from the game. Running on Kentucky really isn't something to be proud off. Our defense is just horrible and 6 players that were slated to be starters on defense before the season were out today. And it's nice to see George throwing bombs when they are up by over 30 points in the 4th quarter. Boy, talk about classy.
Ben E Lou
11-06-2004, 03:56 PM
Just got back from the game. Running on Kentucky really isn't something to be proud off. Our defense is just horrible and 6 players that were slated to be starters on defense before the season were out today. And it's nice to see George throwing bombs when they are up by over 30 points in the 4th quarter. Boy, talk about classy.When you jump offsides, and hit the QB late, after the whistle has blown, and after he's taken a knee, that's what happens.
TargetPractice6
11-06-2004, 04:02 PM
The center moved on that play.
Ben E Lou
11-06-2004, 04:53 PM
Some Kentucky fans don't even think the score was run up. (http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1430&tid=42281273&sid=&style=2)
cthomer5000
11-06-2004, 05:06 PM
who cares? it's any teams right to run up the score. Only serious whiners complain about that kind of shit. It's part of the game.
TargetPractice6
11-06-2004, 05:17 PM
Ugg, I was forced to read that message board while FOFC was down. Many of these UK fans are really idiots. In the first quarter today they announced some students and the school president. The actually booed the school president (for what reason I don't know). Anyway, I'm glad FOFC is back up because that board is just depressing.
Anyway I'm not complaining about the scoring so much as throwing the bombs when they weren't really necessary. cthomer: I know it's any team's right, but really they were just embarassing us because they could. But I guess it isn't like we weren't already embarassed this season (losing to Ohio and all).
Young Drachma
11-06-2004, 06:29 PM
Just saw Thomas Brown on College Gameday. Solid day, 3 TDs and all. A great year keeps getting better for him.
That's awesome.
Ben E Lou
11-07-2004, 09:44 AM
More on Brown/Ware. I just listened to the full version of Richt's post-game press conference. The following interesting exchange occurred:
Q: "If Danny's well by next Saturday would you start him would you start him or will you come back to Thomas Brown?"
A: "Oh I don't know. We won't divulge that yet. We'll look at that. It's a good question though." {chuckles from reporters} "It is a good question."
When your starter is averaging 5.1 yards per carry and the coach doesn't automatically say that he's the guy, that speaks volumes for the backup, I reckon. ;)
Stats update:
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</td><!--<td align=right></td>--><td align="right">123</td><td align="right">623</td><td align="right">5.1</td><td align="right">4</td><!--<td align=right>0.0</td>--></tr><tr><td>Thomas Brown</td><td align="right">
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</td><!--<td align=right></td>--><td align="right">114</td><td align="right">601</td><td align="right">5.3</td><td align="right">7</td></tr></tbody> </table>
Story last updated at 12:09 AM on Nov. 7, 2004<mcc phototable=""> </mcc> <table cellpadding="0"> <tbody><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top"> http://onlineathens.com/images/110704/12099_256.jpg (http://onlineathens.com/images/110704/12099_512.jpg) </td> <td> Jeff Blake/Staff
http://onlineathens.com/images/bullets/dot_black.gif Georgia running back Thomas Brown breaks away for a big gain early against Kentucky on Saturday. Brown rushed for 130 yards in the game. </td> </tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody> </table> <mcc head="">Brown steps up to challenge</mcc>
<mcc subhead="">Ware's injury leads way to next freshman in line</mcc>
<mcc story="">LEXINGTON, Ky. - Any questions regarding Thomas Brown's ability to be a feature running back for 8th-ranked Georgia were answered during the Bulldogs' 62-17 rout of Kentucky Saturday.</mcc>
<!--Begin ad/tools box--><!-- end ad/tools box --> When starter Danny Ware went out in the first quarter with a knee and ankle injury, the freshman from Tucker got the chance to show coach Mark Richt exactly what he could do.
Brown did not disappoint. The 5-foot-8, 185-pounder carried the football 22 times for 130 yards and three touchdowns, the latter two of which were career highs.
"I was real happy about that," said Brown. "I'm just been fortunate that I've been able to come out and prove myself week in and week out."
Brown's biggest test could come next week against third-ranked Auburn.
If Ware is unable to play, Brown will become the Bulldogs' primary ball carrier with Michael Cooper, Tony Milton, and possibly Tyson Browning, moving up a notch in the tailback pecking order.
That's just fine with Brown, whose 22 carries were one short of his season-high 23 totes he got two weeks ago against Arkansas.
Teammate Fred Gibson doesn't need convincing about Brown's ability to be a go-to running back for the Bulldogs.
"That boy's the Truth, man. I've never seen a running back like him," Gibson said. "He's just very, very good. I think he's going to break all kinds of records before he leaves here."
Gibson said he was particularly impressed by one fourth-down run by Brown late in the second quarter.
Facing a fourth-and-1 from the Kentucky 34-yard line, Brown took a handoff from quarterback David Greene and scampered 24 yards down the right sideline for a first down, breaking two tackles before he was tackled at the 10.
"The guy just broke out of nowhere," Gibson said. "I thought he was gone."
Almost.
Although he didn't score on his 24-yard run, Brown found the end zone one play later from the 1-yard line to complete the 43-yard drive in which he carried the ball six times.
<mcc phototable=""> </mcc><table align="left" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="236"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top"> http://onlineathens.com/images/110704/12100_256.jpg (http://onlineathens.com/images/110704/12100_512.jpg) </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="right"> R.C. Rique/Staff </td> </tr> <tr> <td> http://onlineathens.com/images/bullets/dot_black.gif Thomas Brown looks on after scoring one of his three touchdowns Saturday during the Bulldogs' 62-17 victory against the Wildcats. </td> </tr> </tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> "I was a little tired, maybe even a little winded after that," Brown said. "But I had to fight through it and keep going."
Richt said he wasn't even aware of Brown's six-carry drive. If he had, he might have given him a quick breather.
"I didn't even realize that," said Richt. "But Thomas has got great speed, great vision and great power. Thomas is a heckuva back, and people don't realize how strong he is.
"I don't mind him being the short-yardage runner. He's done that three or four times this year, and has been successful about every time."
Brown was successful against the Wildcats.
After his 1-yard run in the second quarter gave Georgia a 20-0 lead, Brown added touchdown runs of 2 in the third and 4 in the fourth.
"Three touchdowns today? The guy's just a freshman," Gibson said. "He does great things every day."
The proof is in his stats.
Brown has rushed for over 100 yards in three of Georgia's last four games, including a 122-yard effort three weeks ago against Vanderbilt.
"The offensive line did a great job with the blocking," Brown said. "I just ran behind the blocks they and my fullback (Jeremy Thomas) were giving me. They made my job easy."
Brown averaged 5.9 yards per carry against the Wildcats.
"The guy's got speed," said receiver Reggie Brown. "I could see that the first day he stepped on the field."
Said Gibson, "He reminds me of Warrick Dunn. He's shifty, he's strong, he hits the holes real hard. He's a playmaker. When they give him the ball, he's getting the job done."
But like a true team player, Brown said he still has much work to do.
Along with his pass protection, Brown says he needs to become more patient in waiting for holes to develop.
There's one more goal he like to achieve.
"I still haven't broken a long one and taken it to the house," Brown said. "I did it a lot in high school, but still haven't done it here. I've come close, but I'm still looking for that big run."
Brown figures to get plenty of opportunities before his Georgia career is through.
GrantDawg
11-07-2004, 02:19 PM
I read the AJC article earlier were they called him Thomas "T.D." Brown. I agree with Gibson. He is the TRUTH.
Ben E Lou
11-07-2004, 02:32 PM
I read the AJC article earlier were they called him Thomas "T.D." Brown. I agree with Gibson. He is the TRUTH.I like Thomas "The Truth" Brown better. :p
Ben E Lou
11-08-2004, 09:27 PM
Second. He'd already moved up to sharing equal time with Ware, with better ypc and equal TD's, and Danny has shown a penchant for putting the ball on the ground. He turned it over twice today. I'm going out on a limb right here, right now: Danny Ware has seen his last day as the #1 TB at UGA.In an interview published today, UGA running backs coach Ken Rucker pretty much confirmed that Thomas is now the #1 back. Good call, Ben. ;)
Ben E Lou
11-09-2004, 06:20 AM
http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/110904/dog_20041109068.shtml
<> <mcc head="">Thomas Brown to start against Tigers</mcc>
<mcc subhead="">Notebook</mcc>
<mcc story="">Freshman tailback Thomas Brown got word before Monday night's practice that he will get his first college start on Saturday.</mcc></> <!--Begin ad/tools box--><!-- end ad/tools box --> "It means a lot," Brown said. "It's going to be really exciting to get my first start. I just need to relax, calm down and just play the game that I've been playing."
Running backs coach Ken Rucker said Brown would have gotten the nod even if freshman Danny Ware were healthy. Brown rushed for a career-high 130 yards and three touchdowns on 22 carries, topping the 100-yard mark for the third time in four games.
"He had a tremendous game, and I think he would have started this week anyway," Rucker said.
Ware is questionable for Saturday after leaving the first quarter of Monday's game with a sprained right knee and ankle. He did not practice Monday, but Rucker said he is hopeful that Ware will play. Brown said Ware is not on crutches.
"He's keeping his spirits up trying to work hard and see if he can come back for this game," Brown said.
Ware leads Georgia with 623 yards and has four touchdowns. Brown has rushed for 601 yards and seven touchdowns.
cthomer5000
11-09-2004, 06:23 AM
Dat boy runnin' so good this year....
dacman
11-10-2004, 10:14 AM
Dat Boy on the AP wire ....
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBC_GEORGIA_THOMAS_BROWN?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=SPORTS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
No. 8 Georgia Starts Freshman in Key Game
By PAUL NEWBERRY
AP Sports Writer
<!-- BEGIN POSITION 1 --><!-- END POSITION 1 -->ATHENS, Ga. (AP) -- Mark Richt knows he'll have to get a little creative when he divvies up playing time for Georgia's running backs next season. Not so on Saturday. Thomas Brown is the undisputed starter for the biggest game of the season.
The diminutive freshman moved to the top of the depth chart after rushing for more than 100 yards in three of his last four games. With fellow freshman Danny Ware hobbled by a sprained ankle and knee, Brown figures to get most of the carries when the No. 8 Bulldogs (8-1) meet third-ranked Auburn (9-0) on Saturday.
"I am absolutely confident in Thomas," teammate David Pollack said. "He is a tough guy. He is not very big, but he is strong as an ox. He is fast, he is strong and he never stops moving his feet. He is a playmaker."
While Ware is Georgia's top rusher with 623 yards, the 5-foot-8 Brown is a close second with 601 and has more touchdowns (seven to Ware's four) and a better average per carry (5.3 to 5.1).
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Just as important to his coach, Brown hasn't lost his grip on the ball. Richt isn't pleased with Ware's carelessness, which included two fumbles in a rout of Kentucky last week.
It was Ware's second two-fumble game of the season, and probably would have cost him the starting job even if he didn't get hurt recovering a loose ball.
"Thomas has been very consistent with how he runs the ball," Richt said Tuesday. "The bottom line: He's held on to the ball better. That's the biggest factor in who starts."
Ware sat out practice for the second straight day, a strong indication that he won't be much of a factor against the unbeaten Tigers.
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Brown said he's ready to take on the bulk of the carries, and he proved last week that he's up to the task. After Ware was injured, Brown took over and rushed 22 times for 130 yards and three touchdowns - all career bests.
"One thing I wanted to prove when I got here was that I could take a high number of carries," Brown said. "A lot of guys didn't think I could do that."
He already dealt with skeptics who didn't think he was big enough to be a major-college running back. Even when he committed to Georgia, there was plenty of speculation that he'd never take a handoff for the Bulldogs.
"All my life, I've heard that I was too small to play running back," Brown said. "A lot of guys at my high school told me that I'd be moving to cornerback my first day at Georgia."
<!-- BEGIN POSITION 4 --><!-- END POSITION 4 -->The Bulldogs never considered such a move, especially when projected starter Kregg Lumpkin sustained a season-ending knee injury in the early days of fall practice.
Richt scuttled plans to use some two-tailback sets - akin to the way Auburn uses Carnell Williams and Ronnie Brown - though he'll likely rekindle it when Lumpkin returns in 2005.
"We'll have to consider that very strongly," the coach said. "In camp this year, we had some of those two-back packages going in. As soon as Lumpkin hurt his knee, we backed off. We thought it would be too much for two freshmen to learn."
Also, Thomas Brown missed some valuable preseason time because of a sore hamstring. Once he finally got on the field, he quickly proved himself.
<!-- BEGIN POSITION 5 --><!-- END POSITION 5 -->"I surprised a lot of people at the beginning of the year," Brown said. "I didn't get a chance to do two-a-days because I was hurt. When I got out there, a lot of guys were telling me they didn't know I could run that hard."
Indeed, Brown has startling power for a player of his stature, though anyone who's caught a glimpse of him in the weight room would know better.
In high school, he was one of the top-ranked weightlifters in the state for his class. He can handle around 500 pounds in the squat and bench-press about 400 pounds, making him the strongest pound-for-pound player on the team.
While Brown is fast enough to outrun most defenders, he's just as likely to run over a would-be tackler. He's added about 15 pounds since he got to Georgia and now weighs 185.
<!-- BEGIN POSITION 6 --><!-- END POSITION 6 -->"I never shy away from contact," he said. "I'm not afraid to get hit. I like getting hit."
Brown actually considers his size a strength, not a hindrance.
"I can hide behind my linemen until I see the hole," he said. "I'm able to slip through some cracks that bigger backs can't slip through."
Ben E Lou
11-10-2004, 10:39 AM
Nice article. Oh, and by the way, I officially recant my estimate about his height. I meant to say that earlier. Looking at the pic, I think I was bent over slightly at the waist. Thomas was home (along with Darius Swain) for a Tucker game during a UGA off-week earlier this year, and because of the earlier discussion on his height, my curiosity had me paying much closer attention. I think 5'8" is about right, and maybe even a hair generous. He is, however, closer to 18 than 19, and his dad is a little taller than him, so he definitely has the potential to grow. I can't imagine what his strength numbers are going to be by the time he's 21 or 22. :eek: I'll stick by the statement I made the first time I mentioned him on here, before he'd been ranked by the major recruiting services:
I have a feeling that Thomas will be a special, special player.
VPI97
11-10-2004, 08:57 PM
Dat boy on ESPN.com...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=1920072
Showing off our Freshman 15
The Georgia Boys (8) -- Danny Ware started the season pounding the rock for the Bulldogs and has racked up 623 yards in eight games. Lately it's been the 'Dogs' speed back, Thomas Brown, doing most of the work. He has 601 yards, including three 100-yard rushing games in the last four. Mark Richt will happily take 1,200-plus from two rookies.
Ben E Lou
11-11-2004, 04:24 AM
I'm getting nervous now. Ware missed his third straight day of practice, and a couple of the backups are nursing injuries as well. Thomas may have to carry a *very* heavy load on Saturday. Here's hoping that the nationally televised game will be his coming out party!
Ben E Lou
11-11-2004, 06:22 AM
From this morning's AJC. Pretty ironic. The first time GrantDawg saw Thomas (at Tucker, the night he broke his leg), his comment was something along the lines of "Wow. He's really small." :p
Brown’s sizable contribution silences his critics
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thursday, November 11, 2004
Athens — “You’re too small to play football, son,” they told him in rec league.
“You’re a pretty good high school back, but you’ll never be able to play tailback in the SEC,” they told him in high school.
“You have good speed, kid,” college recruiters said, “so you might be able to play cornerback or kick returner. But you can forget about running back.”
Georgia’s Thomas Brown has battled this size thing his entire life.
“Thomas probably wouldn’t want me telling this, but every year when he was playing rec ball, he’d literally cry when fall came around because all the other guys were so much bigger than he was,” said his father, Thomas Brown Sr. “He couldn’t understand why he wasn’t growing as fast. But once he got to practicing, he realized he could play with them and he’d feel good about himself again.”
“Even guys here [at Georgia] said I was too small to play,” said Brown, a 5-foot-8, 185-pound freshman from Tucker. “But that was before we even got into pads and they had seen me play. So, yeah, I felt like I had something to prove.”
Nine games into his first college season, Brown has proven himself to his Georgia coaches and teammates. Now he intends to convince the No. 3-ranked Auburn Tigers and the rest of the nation that he not only can play in the SEC, but he can flourish in the role of featured back in a game with national championship implications.
With No. 1 tailback Danny Ware slowed with knee and ankle injuries, Brown will get his first career start Saturday in what some are calling the biggest Georgia-Auburn game in a generation.
“I’m not going to approach the game any differently than I did before,” said Brown, who has 601 yards rushing this season. “I’m a little more anxious; my emotions are a little higher than they’ve been in the past. But I’m just trying to stay in control of myself, keep my composure and stay focused.”
What Brown has done is get stronger and more confident with each passing week. After getting only five carries in Georgia’s first two games, he has had 13 or more in six of the last seven games as Ware’s backup. Brown has gone over the 100-yard mark in three of the last four, including a career-best 130 yards on 22 carries in a 62-17 win over Kentucky this past Saturday.
Heading into Auburn, Brown has a team-high seven touchdowns. But here’s the stat his coaches like — zero fumbles.
“The bottom line is just the fact that he has held onto the ball better,” Georgia coach Mark Richt said. “Really, that was the deciding factor for me even if Danny Ware is 100 percent healthy.”
That’s a pretty good accomplishment for any first-year back. It’s an extraordinary one for a player considered undersized for his position.
“I’m absolutely confident in Thomas Brown,” said senior defensive end David Pollack. “Tough son of a gun. He’s not very big, but he’s strong as an ox. I watched him come in and bench 395 pounds as a true freshman. That’s not a pup; that’s an already-grown Dog there.”
Ah, yes, Brown’s strength. It’s a thing of legend around the Georgia locker room. Though one of the smallest players on the Bulldogs’ roster, Brown’s power index — a formula that factors in height and weight with bench press and squat — makes him the strongest player on the team pound-for-pound. He benches 400 pounds and squats 525.
Wide receiver Fred Gibson lights up at the recollection of his first encounter with Brown in the weight room. “The first time I saw him in the weight room lifting all them weights, I said, ‘Good Lord, boy, what you doing?’ He had a ridiculous amount of weight on the bar, and he was tossing it up like it was nothing. It shows out there on the field when he runs the football.”
Weightlifting is something Brown has thrown himself into since arriving at Tucker High in the ninth grade. He won the school’s Golden Tiger Award for leadership in the weight room as a junior, the only non-senior to do so. He finished third in his weight class in a state powerlifting competition last year.
“We had a real strong weightlifting program in high school and I worked hard at it,” Brown said. “After I started doing it, I realized how much it would help me on the field and I started really attacking it.”
Brown’s zest for working out is fueled by his desire to play with the big boys, his father said.
“His idol is Barry Sanders; that’s why he wears the No. 20,” said Brown Sr., pastor at College Park Christian Methodist Episcopal Church. “His work ethic, how persistent he is with his training, it’s all about him being able play football like Barry Sanders. He’s always been determined that his size would not be a detriment to doing that.”
At least until he tries to make that next jump to the NFL, nobody’s telling Brown he’s too small for anything anymore.
GrantDawg
11-11-2004, 10:01 AM
From this morning's AJC. Pretty ironic. The first time GrantDawg saw Thomas (at Tucker, the night he broke his leg), his comment was something along the lines of "Wow. He's really small." :p
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Yeah, but I never questioned he could play in the SEC. He is actually bigger than another Dawg one time starter (Tyson Browning).
Ben E Lou
11-12-2004, 01:47 PM
Yeah, but I never questioned he could play in the SEC. He is actually bigger than another Dawg one time starter (Tyson Browning).Oh, I know. I just had to give you a hard time. By the way, are you gonna catch a Tucker game this year with me?
GrantDawg
11-12-2004, 02:32 PM
Oh, I know. I just had to give you a hard time. By the way, are you gonna catch a Tucker game this year with me?
It is counting down, in it? Tonight is probably out. What is the schedule like?
Ben E Lou
11-12-2004, 02:45 PM
Assuming we continue winning....
Tonight: HOME vs. Northwest Whitfield
Next Friday: HOME vs. winner of Northside Warner Robins at Statesboro
Day After Thanksgiving: semi-finals in the Ga. Dome
First Friday or Saturday in December: HOME--State Championship
Frankly, tonight isn't a lock. Northwest Whitfield has a bunch of big ol' country boys on the line of scrimmage. We're a good bit faster than them, but the wet field tonight will undoubtedly work in their advantage.
There are definitely several players worth seeing. As I've mentioned before (maybe in this thread), I think the WR/CB/RB2 Asher Allen has more football speed than Thomas. He's not as strong--yet, but he is benching over 300 as a Junior. Asher would start at tailback for any other program in the state, I'm convinced, and I'd imagine he would have been given a chance to win the starting job if B.Y. hadn't been such a patient backup to Thomas. Of course, B.Y. is being recruited by everyone around, as is SS/OLB/TE/DE Tavares "TKO" Kearney. You need to see Tavares hit. There's a reason the coaches gave him that nickname. :) Tucker has developed one of the best high school strength and conditioning programs in the state over the last few years. As eye-popping as Thomas Brown's weight room numbers are, Hamilton Sims has a shot at breaking every one of his Tucker records after just one year. :eek: I think that a handful of other seniors will also earn small college scholarships as well.
One more little tidbit: Hamilton has grown a bit. He's around 5'7" or so now.
GrantDawg
11-12-2004, 02:48 PM
I hope they win tonight then, and I'll make plans to join you next Friday.
Ben E Lou
11-12-2004, 10:18 PM
Well, there's gonna be a rematch of last year's classic Tucker-Statesboro confrontation! Tucker wins big tonight, 48-14.
JeeberD
11-13-2004, 11:22 PM
Looks like it was a pretty decent game for Brown, even if UGA lost...
cartman
11-13-2004, 11:28 PM
Looks like it was a pretty decent game for Brown, even if UGA lost...
I was looking at that as well. Almost 100 yards rushing, when they were behind the whole game isn't too bad. And he had his best game by far catching the ball out of the backfield.
He has some good football left ahead of him at UGA.
Ben E Lou
11-14-2004, 03:44 AM
Brown, Pope, and the offensive line (to a degree) were the only Bulldogs who looked like they came to play yesterday--including the coaching staff. :(
Ben E Lou
11-14-2004, 04:45 AM
In his first start, Brown leads Dogs in rushing, receiving
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Sunday, November 14, 2004
Auburn, Ala. — On a bleak day for the Georgia offense, there was one flickering bright spot — and he wears the number 20.
Freshman tailback Thomas Brown got his first start and, on a day when the Bulldogs’ weren’t sure who would back him up, nobody had to. Brown played almost every offensive snap of the game and finished as Georgia’s leading rusher (22 carries, 92 yards) and leading receiver (5 catches, 49 yards) in a 24-6 loss to No. 3 Auburn.
“I feel pretty good about how I played,” Brown said afterward. “But it’s not about individual effort. We’re trying to win the game.”
With regular starter Danny Ware sidelined because of knee and ankle injuries, Brown came off the field for only a few plays. Otherwise, Brown was the only ball carrier other than quarterbacks D.J. Shockley (3 for 8 yards) and David Greene (3 for minus-13).
“I knew he could [carry the load],” Greene said of Brown. “I know what kind of back he is.”
“He’s been proving it to me all season,” fullback Jeremy Thomas said. “I mean, he had 600 yards coming in here.”
Brown, who came into the game just 22 yards behind Ware, is now Georgia’s leading rusher with 693 yards and leading scorer with seven touchdowns. He actually had more carries (23 for 107) against Arkansas and the same number against Kentucky (22-130) last week. But those numbers were because Georgia ran a lot of offensive plays in those games.
“Thomas is in great condition, plus it was a cool night,” Georgia coach Mark Richt said. “And the way television games go with all the timeouts plus the timeouts we take, I figured he could handle it. Plus, it wasn’t like we were just grinding it down the field with a bunch of sustained drives.”
No, there wasn’t a lot of offensive bragging going on in the Bulldogs’ locker room after the game. Not after they came a late fourth-quarter touchdown from becoming the first Georgia team since 1995 to be shut out (Alabama, 31-0).
“We were fortunate to get the six points we did at the end,” Richt said. “There were only three times we looked like we could score and, basically, we blew those.”
The Bulldogs took the opening drive and quickly drove to the Auburn 19 before a tackle for loss and a false start by Daniel Inman backed them up. Andy Bailey then butchered a 36-yard field goal.
After David Pollack blocked an Auburn punt, Georgia reached the Auburn 25 when Greene called a play-action pass for Reggie Brown. Brown was open but Greene delivered the ball a little late and with too much loft and Carlos Rogers intercepted in the end zone.
On Georgia’s first possession of the second half, Brown caught a pass at the Auburn 10 but was leveled by Auburn’s Junior Rosegreen and fumbled the ball away.
“It was kind of a weird game,” said Greene, who passed for 159 of Georgia’s 279 yards. “Really, from 20[-yard line] to 20 we actually played pretty good. But anytime you only score six points, you have to give the defense credit.”
JeeberD
11-14-2004, 12:18 PM
Oh, I wasn't talking about Ware, I was talking about UNT's Jamario Thomas (http://www.meangreensports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1800&KEY=&SPID=562&SPSID=9058). The kid came in when last years national leading rusher Patrick Cobb got injured, and he hasn't looked back. He's leading the nation in rushing and has five game of over 200 yards out of the seven games he's played... :)
"Thomas finished the game with 203 rushing yards, giving him the NCAA Division I-A record for most 200-yard games as a freshman with five (breaking the record of four by Herschel Walker of Georgia and Ron Dayne of Wisconsin). He also became the only player in North Texas history to have five 200-yard games in his career and the only player in the nation to have five 200-yard games this season."
And on Saturday Jamario rushed 28 times for 291 yards and four TDs. He actually had over 100 yards halfway through the first quarter. The kid is the real deal...
Ben E Lou
01-02-2005, 05:21 PM
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/C/00/58/81/image_1281580.jpg
Young Dog growls on gritty final drive
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 01/02/05 TAMPA — The players who molded themselves into the most recent Georgia legends did their share. But when it came time to salvage a season-ending victory over Wisconsin in Saturday's Outback Bowl, it was a player in the early stages of his Bulldog tenure who rose up.
Freshman tailback Thomas Brown, whose 29-yard blur of a touchdown run in the third quarter gave Georgia a seemingly safe 18-point lead, gained 49 of his 111 yards on a must-have final drive. He capped the emotion-stirring performance with key third- and fourth-down runs in the red zone in the waning moments that allowed the Bulldogs to run out the clock and secure a 24-21 victory before 62,414 at Raymond James Stadium.
<!--endclickprintinclude--><!--startclickprintinclude--> "When the game's on the line and it's like third down or something, I try to give my all to be able to get the first down or put our team in position to get a first down," said Brown, who also led Georgia with four catches for 44 yards.
Brown's production made up for an otherwise disjointed day for the offense, part of which he was responsible for, fumbling once and tipping a catchable pass that led to an interception.
"To get my first fumble this year, it kind of hurt," said Brown, who finished the season with a team-high 875 yards rushing. "I pride myself on taking care of the ball. That interception kind of brought me down a little bit, but I had to keep my focus and say I'm going to make it up to myself."
His gritty redemption effort, coupled with a strong showing from the defense — particularly standouts David Pollack (the game's MVP), Odell Thurman and Thomas Davis — gave Georgia its third straight season winning at least 10 games. These Bulldogs finished 10-2.
No Georgia team had posted three straight seasons with 10 or more wins since the 1980-83 Vince Dooley-coached teams. The Bulldogs, who entered the game ranked eighth, could also move into the top five in the final rankings.
"I said going in if we didn't win it would be a good season, and if we won and got number 10, it would be a great season," Georgia coach Mark Richt said. "It wasn't a perfect season. We're still looking for perfection. I'm just proud of our players and the job that they did."
Georgia entered the season hoping to play for a national championship, but losses to Tennessee and Auburn left it facing Wisconsin (9-3), a team with similar ambitions that went awry after three season-ending losses. Though the game wasn't pretty, players competed as if it mattered.
The Bulldogs rang up seven sacks, none more critical or spectacular than Pollack's jarring of John Stocco, in which he stripped the ball from Wisconsin's quarterback before both players hit the ground. The play — Pollack's last at Georgia — came with just more than five minutes left.
The turnover seemingly wrapped up the game for Georgia, which led 24-13 at the time. However, Greene, who entered the game with two interceptions for the season, threw his second interception of the game on an errant screen pass in the direction of Brown. Badgers linebacker Andy Crooks returned it 11 yards for a touchdown. After a two-point conversion, Wisconsin was within three points, a deficit heightened by Mike Allen's missed 37-yard field goal at the beginning of the final period.
Georgia took its final possession at the 39-yard line, with Brown doing all the heavy lifting after Fred Gibson's 8-yard catch to start the drive. After he ping-ponged off a number of would-be tacklers for a 4-yard gain on third-and-5 at Wisconsin's 15, he followed a horde of blockers off left tackle for an 11-yard pickup on fourth-and-1 for the game-clinching first down.
Richt, who normally calls the plays, said offensive line coach and offensive coordinator Neil Callaway made the call after coaches opted to bypass a field goal attempt.
"Everybody wanted to go for it," Richt said. "We felt like if we got the first down, the game was over. It was the perfect call."
Said Gibson: "Thomas Brown, he's been doing his thing the whole day. Why not give it to him? I'm glad he did give it to him. He got us that first down. He did a great job today."
Ben E Lou
01-02-2005, 05:23 PM
Darius Walker
Running Back | #3 | Freshman | Roster (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/roster?teamId=87)Age: 19
Height: 5-11
Weight: 200 lbs.
Hometown: Lawrenceville, GA <table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="626"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#313a98"><td colspan="3">Totals</td><td colspan="4" align="center">Rushing</td><td colspan="4" align="center">Receiving</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#c1c1c1"><td colspan="2" align="left">SEASON</td><td>RECORD</td><td>ATT</td><td>YDS</td><td>AVG</td><td>TD</td><td>REC</td><td>YDS</td><td>AVG</td><td>TD</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td colspan="2" align="left">2004</td><td>6-6</td><td>172</td><td>743</td><td>4.3</td><td>6</td><td>9</td><td>61</td><td>6.8</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody> </table>
Thomas Brown
Running Back | #20 | Freshman | Roster (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/roster?teamId=61)Age: 18
Height: 5-8
Weight: 185 lbs.
Hometown: Tucker, GA <table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="626"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#d60022"><td colspan="3">Totals</td><td colspan="4" align="center">Rushing</td><td colspan="4" align="center">Receiving</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#c1c1c1"><td colspan="2" align="left">SEASON</td><td>RECORD</td><td>ATT</td><td>YDS</td><td>AVG</td><td>TD</td><td>REC</td><td>YDS</td><td>AVG</td><td>TD</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#efefe7"><td colspan="2" align="left">2004</td><td>10-2</td><td>156</td><td>764</td><td>4.9</td><td>7</td><td>12</td><td>106</td><td>8.8</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody> </table>
Balldog
01-02-2005, 05:38 PM
Brown had a heck of a game yesterday.
Ben E Lou
04-09-2005, 03:47 PM
I think 5'8" is about right, and maybe even a hair generoushttp://www.younglifenorthlake.com/fofc/thomaslinemen.jpg
Ben E Lou
04-09-2005, 07:07 PM
Spring game today, and Thomas *really* stood out, apparently. I couldn't see it, due to not having CSS, and had too much going on this afternoon to get up to Athens, but based on the buzz at the UGA message boards, Thomas looked like the clear #1 today, even the Ware supporters admitted it freely. A few comments... (Keep in mind, of course, that these are very partisan Dawgs talking, with regard to the "best back in college football" type comments...)
he {Richt} commented that Brown reminded him alot of Warrick Dunn, who played at FSU and now plays for the Falcons. Richt noted that both players are very strong below the waist, but that Brown is much stronger from the waist up than Dunn ever was in college. Note that Brown came to campus bench pressing almost 400 lbs as a true freshman (while weighing about 185 lbs!). I would assume that TB has pushed well beyond the 400 lb. level at this point and may have a chance, before he graduates, to reach the 500 lb level ( I remember that Amos Zeroue, formerly of West Virginia, is one of the very few running backs who could bench press 500 lbs).
Thomas Brown is a very special player who will be playing on Sundays if he can stay healthy, and his physical maturity would suggest that he can do just that. He's strong, fast, quick, elusive and has vision. Is there any doubt now why we wanted him above Darius Walker of Buford?!! Glad he's on our team!! does EVERYTHING well:
block..Richt went on and on about how we has picking up the blitz.
run..CMR: "He's our best short yardage back. " also our fastest.
Can also catch. He's an AA in the making. T Brown is the best back easily since Edwards and by the end of the year maybe Garrison!!! He is a 1500 yard rusher and might be as good as Caddy or Brown before he leaves! As a Ware fan, I have to say Brown looked incredible today. Thought he definitely made a statement. He had great vision, speed, and toughness; everthing a running back needs. Brown was the one guy that stood out The gap between 1st and 2nd team running back got bigger today, IMO. He {Tyson Browning} is quick but Thomas Brown is just incredible. He got the corner on plays against Derrick White and Tony Taylor that no other back in the SEC could have gotten. He carried Charles Johnson and Gerald Andedrson for 5 yards on a run, it was impressive. I think Thomas Brown is our starting RB for next year. He appears to be the fastest, quickest and most elusive, and even though Ware is bigger, I think Brown runs just as tough and has proven to be more durable than Ware so far.
Keep this little nugget in mind: he is STILL not yet 19 years old. :eek:
Ben E Lou
05-12-2005, 11:29 AM
Dat boy ranked just outside of the Top 25 Heisman contenders by College Football News.
http://cfbnews.com/2005/Preview/CFNHeisman100_21_40_RC.htm
26. RB Thomas Brown, Georgia – Fellow freshman Danny Ware grabbed the headlines last September, but as the season wore on, it was Brown who became the lead Dawg. And it’s Mark Richt’s second coming of Warrick Dunn who’s nudging Ware and Kregg Lumpkin to fullback this spring.
korme
05-12-2005, 12:26 PM
i'm rooting for thomas. weird that i am older than him :)
JonInMiddleGA
07-21-2005, 11:25 PM
Freshman accused of cheating
Former Tucker standout Kearney involved in exam fracas
By CHIP TOWERS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 07/22/05
ATHENS — Georgia linebacker Tavares Kearney, a freshman from Tucker High, faces possible expulsion from the university after a teacher accused him of cheating on an exam and simple battery.
The battery charge, filed against Kearney by instructor Dawn Penn, was dropped Wednesday, according to an incident report obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution from the University of Georgia Police Department. However, it is possible Kearney could still face disciplinary action from the school's student judiciary panel on that charge.
Kearney has since withdrawn from the course. He has returned to his home in Atlanta, according to a Georgia spokesman. His eligibility is uncertain pending the outcome of the university's judicial process.
A copy of the incident report was forwarded to Georgia athletics director Damon Evans and coach Mark Richt, but neither would discuss specifics of the case or whether additional internal discipline would be forthcoming.
According to the police report, Penn suspected Kearney of using his cellphone camera to cheat on a nutrition exam during summer classes at Dawson Hall last Friday. Penn, a 27-year-old graduate student charged with overseeing the exam, accidentally distributed copies of the answer key to one of the four versions of the test. After a student pointed it out, Penn asked students with "Form A" to return the answer sheets, known as "scantrons."
Penn left the classroom to get the correct copies of the test and returned to redistribute them. During the exam, Penn noticed students "crowded together" around Kearney and that Kearney "glanced at me several times," which made her suspicious, according to her statement.
When Kearney walked up to the stage of the auditorium classroom to turn in his test, Penn stated she noticed his cellphone was on. She walked behind him and noticed an image of the "bubbled scantron" she'd accidentally distributed earlier. Penn asked him for his cellphone. Shortly after handing the phone over, Kearney asked for it back.
When Penn refused, Kearney allegedly grabbed the woman's left hand, which contained the phone, squeezed it hard and twisted her wrist.
The pain, Penn alleges in the report, caused her to let go of the phone, which dropped to the floor. Kearney grabbed it, then left the room.
Kearney, who earned the nickname "TKO" for knocking quarterbacks out of games, stands 6 feet 1 and weighs 210 pounds; Penn is listed in the report at 5-5, 120.
During the alleged altercation, Penn stated, Bulldogs senior defensive end Will Thompson approached Kearney and told him to "chill, relax and let go." Penn praised Thompson, one of at least five other football players enrolled in the class, for helping to defuse the situation.
In her statement to police, Penn said she was not interested in pursuing criminal charges against Kearney but said he "is a football player and she fears that her ongoing pursuit of an academic honesty investigation . . . may lead to retaliation by Kearney or one of his friends."
Thompson asked Penn what might happen to Kearney. "I guess Georgia is really going to suffer a loss," Penn recounted in her statement. "I also told him Tavares Kearney has a lot more to worry about other than cheating. I said cheating was one issue but grabbing me was another."
In her initial interview with police Monday night, Penn said she did not want to "ruin [Kearney's] life" but hoped "his actions were more of a lack of maturity than a tendency toward violence."
Repeated attempts to contact Penn, Kearney and his mother, Atlanta radio personality Wanda Smith, were unsuccessful.
According to the school's code of conduct, a student found guilty of a first offense for academic dishonesty faces a minimum penalty of a grade of "F" in the course, an academic dishonesty notation on his transcript while enrolled, a one-semester suspension other than summer, or permanent expulsion.
"The matter is in the hands of the proper representatives of the university," Evans said. "There is a procedure they will follow and I don't think it is appropriate to comment until that process is completed."
Said Richt: "As is the case with any student, the university has a process in place to address the situation. It's my intent to withhold comment until that process has been exercised."
If Kearney is unable to compete for Georgia this fall, he'll become the seventh member of the 19-player incoming class to miss the season. Five others did not meet academic requirements and a sixth, Antavious Coates, suffered a season-ending knee injury this summer.
Three returning players have been suspended for the season opener against Boise State following offseason arrests. A fourth, Derrick White, was kicked off the team after being arrested on a DUI charge. And junior fullback Des Williams is out for the season after tearing a chest muscle.
HomerJSimpson
07-21-2005, 11:29 PM
Yeah, I read that. Between him and Swain, them Tucker boys are going to start getting a bad rep. Good thing TB has such a good character.
Ben E Lou
07-22-2005, 12:52 AM
Got wind of this over the weekend here. What I'm hearing doesn't all add up. I should be back in the T-U-C and at football practice on Tuesday, and will try to get more word.
FWIW, Tavares isn't a model citizen like Thomas, but he hasn't been a troublemaker in the past, either. That being said, unfortunately, most kids I know his age don't give a second thought to cheating. It happens so often that the kids don't really even consider it "wrong" anymore. It is really sad.
As far as our rep, the three backfield mates who are going D1 this year (QB Dwayne Harris, FB Myke Compton, TB Asher Allen) will all help restore it. All three are model citizen types who'll probably eventually be named captains of their college teams. Maybe there really IS something in the water in Tucker. Neither Darrius nor TKO actually live in the T-U-C, but Thomas, Dwayne, Myke and Asher all do. :p
Ben E Lou
07-22-2005, 01:44 AM
Oh, speaking of TB, Garner referred to him as "the best player on our team" at a Touchdown club meeting recently. He's squatting over 550 now. Barring injury, look for a breakout year.
Ragone
07-22-2005, 02:00 AM
Dat boy ranked just outside of the Top 25 Heisman contenders by College Football News.
http://cfbnews.com/2005/Preview/CFNHeisman100_21_40_RC.htm
26. RB Thomas Brown, Georgia – Fellow freshman Danny Ware grabbed the headlines last September, but as the season wore on, it was Brown who became the lead Dawg. And it’s Mark Richt’s second coming of Warrick Dunn who’s nudging Ware and Kregg Lumpkin to fullback this spring.
that list of heisman hopefuls is pretty crummy.. in fact he lists georgia tailbacks 3 seperate times.. Tennessee qb's like 3 times.. etc :)
HomerJSimpson
07-22-2005, 08:57 AM
Got wind of this over the weekend here. What I'm hearing doesn't all add up. I should be back in the T-U-C and at football practice on Tuesday, and will try to get more word.
FWIW, Tavares isn't a model citizen like Thomas, but he hasn't been a troublemaker in the past, either. That being said, unfortunately, most kids I know his age don't give a second thought to cheating. It happens so often that the kids don't really even consider it "wrong" anymore. It is really sad.
As far as our rep, the three backfield mates who are going D1 this year (QB Dwayne Harris, FB Myke Compton, TB Asher Allen) will all help restore it. All three are model citizen types who'll probably eventually be named captains of their college teams. Maybe there really IS something in the water in Tucker. Neither Darrius nor TKO actually live in the T-U-C, but Thomas, Dwayne, Myke and Asher all do. :p
That's is good to know, but remember bad behavior stands out ten times as loud as good behavior. It is sad that people only remember the negative articles in the paper.
Buzzbee
07-22-2005, 10:51 AM
In my (biased) opinion, he should get an F in the course. I don't think he should be expelled or kicked off the team. The graduate assistant screwed up by passing out the answers. Sure, he should have been honest and moral enough to not do what he did, but realistically, I bet numerous college students would have done the same thing. Doesn't make it right, but given the circumstances I think he should fail the course. The ding on his grades should be incentive enough, IMO.
digamma
07-22-2005, 11:31 AM
A copy of the incident report was forwarded to Georgia athletics director Damon Evans and coach Mark Richt, but neither would discuss specifics of the case or whether additional internal discipline would be forthcoming.
I tried to bump another thread that mentioned Damon Evans, but it looks like he won't be discussing this case at all in the future (at least in an official capacity).
The University of Georgia has scheduled a 3PM press conference where it is expected Evans's firing/resignation will be announced. (It has nothing to do with Kearney or the other legal difficulties of certain members of their football team.)
HomerJSimpson
07-22-2005, 11:32 AM
I tried to bump another thread that mentioned Damon Evans, but it looks like he won't be discussing this case at all in the future (at least in an official capacity).
The University of Georgia has scheduled a 3PM press conference where it is expected Evans's firing/resignation will be announced. (It has nothing to do with Kearney or the other legal difficulties of certain members of their football team.)
What? Huh? Squeeze me? Why?
digamma
07-22-2005, 11:34 AM
What? Huh? Squeeze me? Why?
Supposedly sexual harrassment related.
HomerJSimpson
07-22-2005, 11:37 AM
Supposedly sexual harrassment related.
Oops! That'll hurt.
Ben E Lou
07-22-2005, 01:52 PM
Supposedly sexual harrassment related.According to the UGA SID, there is no press conference scheduled for today. There IS a rumor going around the UGA pay site (one that has NOT been squelched by the mods, which lends a little more credibility to it) that a high ranking UGA official has been accused of sexual harrassment.
Ben E Lou
08-05-2005, 01:35 PM
Enters at number one TB
by Dean Legge of DawgPost.com (http://georgia.scout.com/), August 5, 2005 at 1:25pm ET
Thomas Brown Profile (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=1979869)
Thomas Brown will enter fall camp as the team’s number one running back, Head Coach Mark Richt confirmed today. “He’s number one right now,” said Richt. Kregg Lumpkin and Danny Ware, both former starters will try to take that spot away from Brown. “They’ve both been there before,” said Brown when asked how he will defend his spot as starter for the 30 days of fall camp.
Ben E Lou
08-07-2005, 02:31 PM
Dat boy sets his first milestone at UGA.
Brown earned the starting spot for now by combining the power of Ware with at least the athleticism of Lumpkin. At just 5-foot-8, 183 pounds, he's the strongest player on the team pound-for-pound. In the team's recently completed summer conditioning program, he became the first player in Richt's tenure to post a power index of higher than 7.0 (7.1). He achieved that measure of total strength by bench-pressing 425 pounds, squatting 550 and power cleaning 321
The highest before Thomas's record number this year was 6.59. Only seven other Dawgs turned in an index over 6.0, and none got anywhere near 7.0. The next eight guys were:
Tra Battle: 6.26
Kelin Johnson: 6.13
Bryan McClendon: 6.08
Tim Jennings: 6.06
Chris Burgett: 6.04
Brannon Southerland: 6.02
AJ Bryant: 6.01
For even better perspective, TB's raw total, not adjusted for his body weight, in the bench/squat/power clean was 1,296 pounds. This was surpassed by only 16 Dawgs, PERIOD. Yeah, we're talking linemen, linebackers, everybody. :eek: He outlifted most of the LBs and TEs, and a good number of the guys at OL/DL. :eek: :eek: :eek: The next-closest player to his size who had a higher overall total? Fellow Soph. RB Danny Ware, who, at 40 pounds heavier than TB, benched 440, squatted 530, and power cleaned 341.
Can't wait to watch TB run over some more SEC LB's and DB's this year. :D
illinifan999
08-07-2005, 02:35 PM
That's insane, I couldn't even imagine being that strong.
Ben E Lou
07-30-2006, 05:08 PM
Dat boy pushed up 470 on Friday. :eek:
cthomer5000
07-30-2006, 05:53 PM
Man... i need to get to the gym.
Ben E Lou
08-09-2006, 09:08 PM
<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="98%"><tbody><tr> <td class="storytitle" colspan="3">Brown "looking special" in fall camp </td></tr> <tr> <td class="primaryimage" valign="top">http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/16/165415.jpg
Thomas Brown
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Date: Aug 9, 2006
ATHENS – Thomas Brown was a heck of a cornerback at Tucker. In fact, some thought Brown would be a cornerback in college, but not him. Brown has led Georgia in rushing for the last two seasons, and he wants to do so again.
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The last player to lead the Bulldogs in rushing in back-to-back years was Robert Edwards (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=2575862) in 1996 and 1997. And while having a career like Edwards’ would be outstanding, Brown has his sights set on Garrison Hearst (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=1226889)’s three-year tear through the Georgia (http://georgia.scout.com/) record book from 1990 to 1992. “I don’t focus on individual goals,” said Brown of leading the team in rushing. “It’s still somewhat of a goal. Its something I am well aware of – it would be nice to have.”
In the meantime, Brown will have to hold off Kregg Lumpkin (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=2647709) and Danny Ware (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=2647736), both of whom have started in the past.
“It’s tough. Everyone is getting better,” Brown said of the competition this August. But the Atlanta native is Georgia’s number one back according to offensive coordinator Neil Callaway (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=2647652).
"Thomas Brown (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=2647649) has separated himself," Callaway told the Blue Ribbon College Football Yearbook earlier this season. "We're not afraid to play the other two guys, and we will, but Thomas has done enough to put himself ahead of the other two."
Brown might not get the carries needed to have career statistics to rival Herschel Walker (5,259), Hearst (3,232), Lars Tate (3,017), Rodney Hampton (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=560978) (2,668) or Kevin McLee (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=2496032) (2,581) – the top career rushers in Georgia’s history – because of sharing the load with Lumpkin and Ware.
“When I first got here sharing carries was something I had to get used to,” Brown said. “In a lot of ways I think it is best to share it with guys because you are taking a lot of pounding off your body. A lot of guys carry the call 25 times a year, and that takes a toll on your body especially when you are talking about an NFL career after college. It could hurt you later.”
Sharing carries is a part of Mark Richt (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=2647627)’s plan to keep Georgia’s running game steady, and its running backs healthy.
“Football is a tough game. If you got one guy carrying it 20 to 25 times a game, especially if it's a two- or three-year career, that guy's going to get beat up,” Richt said. “I think if we took any one of those three guys in the season and made them the horse, so to speak, they'd get 1,200 to 1,500 yards. I think all three of them are capable of that.”
And bruising might be Browns’ middle name.
“He is a real strong, fast runner and he’s quick,” said Vanderbilt (http://vanderbilt.scout.com/) linebacker Jonathan Goff (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=8&c=1&nid=2617842). “He always runs hard and hits you harder.”
“He is going to come at you,” Callaway added.
Brown only had one 100-yard game last season (144 yards vs. South Carolina (http://southcarolina.scout.com/)), but only had two 20-carry games (South Carolina and Tennessee (http://tennessee.scout.com/)).
“Most people measure a running back by the amount of yards they have,” Brown said of his pursuit of 100-yard performances.
The tailback averaged 12 carries and 61 yards a game last
<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="98%"> <tbody> <tr> <td colspan="3"> year. Now he is looking for his best year yet, no matter the number of carries.
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JeeberD
08-09-2006, 09:18 PM
A lot of guys carry the call 25 times a year, and that takes a toll on your body especially when you are talking about an NFL career after college. It could hurt you later.”
25 times a year? Insane! :eek: :D
SirFozzie
08-09-2006, 09:35 PM
I think you need to randomly delete 100 posts of Jeebies to get him back for that, SD :D
JeeberD
08-09-2006, 09:50 PM
Two can play that game...
*cracks knuckles*
SirFozzie
08-09-2006, 10:06 PM
Help Help! I'm being opressed! Come see the violence inherent in the sysadmin!
Ben E Lou
08-11-2006, 04:55 AM
Dat boy pushed up 470 on Friday. :eek:Danny Ware comments on dat boy in the AJC today, plus the article confirms the above comment about TB's bench:
Ware finds himself third at tailback
Two years after breakout, junior waits for another chance
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/11/06 Athens — Remember?
Remember when Georgia was preparing to open the 2004 season and all the buzz was about an up-until-then little-known tailback from Rockmart by way of Hargrave Military Academy? Remember how he was all set to become the first freshman in six decades to start the season at the Bulldogs' premier ball-carrying position?
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</td></tr><tr><td class="caption"> Danny Ware, behind Thomas Brown and Kregg Lumpkin at tailback, is part of Georgia's No. 1 kickoff-return team.
</td></tr></tbody></table><!--startclickprintinclude--><!--begintext--> Danny Ware remembers, too. He was that freshman, and it seems like another lifetime ago.
"I came in with all this hype when I first started," said Ware, who became the first freshman to start the season at tailback for Georgia since Charles "Rabbit" Smith in 1943. "It's kind of been downhill ever since."
Ware rushed for 135 yards and scored three touchdowns that first game against Georgia Southern. He recorded three more 100-yard efforts that season, against LSU (109), Vanderbilt (127) and Florida (103).
But there has been only one 100-yard game since — 109 against Louisiana-Monroe last year. As the Bulldogs prepare to open the season against Western Kentucky, Ware finds himself with an entirely different set of circumstances.
He's now third on the tailback depth chart behind fellow juniors Thomas Brown and Kregg Lumpkin.
"Right now that is the pecking order," first-year running backs coach Tony Ball said.
"Sometimes you get a little frustrated because you can't get as many carries as you want and the playing time that you want and need to become a better player," Ware said. "But I just have to deal with it."
So what happened?
In a nutshell, Brown did.
Ware got that start in the 2004 opener only because Lumpkin, who'd burst onto the scene as a freshman in 2003, blew out a knee in the first practice. Ware had come in from Hargrave the previous spring and already passed Michael Cooper and Tony Milton on the depth chart.
Then Brown arrived. The freshman from Tucker led the Bulldogs in rushing that season (875) and again last year (736). After setting four weightlifting records this summer — including the best bench press ever by a Georgia running back (470 pounds) — and wowing the coaching staff on a daily basis in practice, only a serious injury could break Brown's stranglehold on the starting job.
"I've never once said he wasn't going to play," Georgia coach Mark Richt said of Ware. "It's just because we've been very impressed with Thomas Brown. He's just been tremendous every day. He's focused and every snap seems like the national championship for him."
Even Ware has to tip his cap to Brown.
"He's murdering it," Ware said. "Strength-wise, he's stepped up a whole lot this year. He's been really focused. Not to say me and Kregg haven't been focused, but Thomas seems to have an extra block on his shoulder or something, and me and Kregg are just trying to get on the bandwagon and get going with him."
Lumpkin has been almost as impressive. After a slow start in 2005 due to his recovery from ACL surgery, he finished the season strong. He led the Bulldogs with 74 yards against Georgia Tech and was second to Brown in the SEC championship game and Sugar Bowl.
In the final three games last season, Lumpkin had 33 carries, Brown 31 and Ware 10.
Georgia has since added another hotshot back to the competition: Knowshon Moreno, New Jersey's all-time leading scorer (128 touchdowns) and second-leading rusher (6,268 yards).
Ware's plight, it seems, is the result of playing at a top 10 program that keeps signing top 10 recruiting classes.
"I think Danny's taking it real well," said fullback Des Williams, Ware's roommate and best friend. "He knows there's unbelievable talent here. Coach Richt has made it pretty clear they're going to use Danny any way they can. He just has to take advantage of his opportunities when he gets on the field."
Some of those opportunities will come on special teams. Ware is on the No. 1 kickoff return team and No. 2 punt team. The Bulldogs are also experimenting with some two-tailback sets with the thought of utilizing Ware's pass-catching skills, much the way Auburn did with Ronnie Brown two seasons ago.
"I'm trying to get on the field as many ways as I can, just trying to make my presence felt," Ware said. "Even if I don't touch the ball as much as I want, I still want to get on the field and make plays any way I can."
In the meantime, Ware said he has quashed the thoughts of starting over somewhere else and buried the memories of that storybook start.
"Like anybody else in my situation, I've had thoughts about going elsewhere," he said of transferring. "But I'm not going to. It's too late. If I was going, I would've went. I'm not going to put in all this hard work with all my friends and teammates to let them down and go somewhere else.
"I'm here. I'm going to stick it out."
Ben E Lou
08-18-2006, 05:07 AM
I keep hearing the same message out of Athens: breakout year expected. "Thomas Brown" to possibly become household name in college football world...
Dogs' Brown lifts his game to higher level
Tailback has strong offseason
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/18/06 Athens — By now, most Georgia fans have heard about the eye-popping numbers Thomas Brown put up in the weight room this summer.
His 470-pound bench press, 610-pound squat and 347-pound power-clean lift all set records for Georgia running backs. And his 7.52 power index score — total pounds lifted divided by Brown's weight (190) — is a school record for all players, making Brown, pound for pound, the strongest player the Bulldogs have ever had.
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</td></tr><tr><td class="caption"> Georgia junior running back Thomas Brown hopes his offseason regimen helps him produce some long runs this season.
</td></tr></tbody></table><!--startclickprintinclude--><!--begintext--> But those aren't the numbers the junior is bent on improving upon this season. He's looking to "hit more home runs."
If there has been any criticism of Brown — and there's been very little to date — it's that he hasn't ripped off many long runs.
"I completely agree with that," said Brown, Georgia's leading rusher the past two seasons and undisputed starter at tailback this season. "I haven't done the best job my first two years of making safeties miss. I think a lot of that had to do with me just wanting to prove myself too much and run everybody over just to prove a point. I'm getting away from that and getting back to basics. I'm trying to make a conscious effort of getting by the safety this year."
In his first two seasons, Brown's longest runs from scrimmage were 46 yards in 2004 and 52 yards in 2005, the latter of which went for a touchdown against West Virginia in the Sugar Bowl. Brown's next-longest scoring runs were for 29 yards in 2004 and 18 last season.
Just for the sake of comparison, Herschel Walker had five scoring runs of 60 or more yards his freshman season.
It's not like Brown hasn't had opportunities. Off the top of his head, he can cite chances in games against Boise State, South Carolina, Arkansas and Florida last season.
"I've had so many nights where I sat in my bed and thought about the times I had those opportunities," Brown said. "I've gone back and watched the film over and over again. I remember them like it was yesterday. The line and wide receivers have given me plenty of chances."
Which brings us back to Brown's weight-room conquests. He became downright obsessive about improving after last season. He attacked Georgia's offseason conditioning program like an ant on a chicken bone.
"Thomas just has a mean attitude — very tough, very determined, very competitive," Georgia strength and conditioning coordinator Dave Van Halanger said. "He hates to lose at anything. I think it goes back to his size. I think he probably got tired of people saying he was too small. He just decided, 'I might not be the biggest, but I'll be the strongest and the toughest.' "
To put Brown's 470-pound bench in perspective, that's only 45.8 pounds shy of the world record for his weight division, set last month by Stephen Judah. And it's within 21 pounds of the American collegiate record.
So, how does Brown do it?
In addition to having some special genetic gifts, he said he dedicated himself to getting his body into pristine physical condition for this season.
He met with a UGA nutritionist in the spring to design an optimum diet for training. He also did a lot of running and swears he's faster than he was last season when he played at 10 fewer pounds.
Others will vouch for him.
"You can see it on film," quarterback Joe Tereshinski said. "He's gotten a lot faster. The dedication he puts forth to getting better is just unbelievable. He's probably improved twice as much as he did his first two years."
And those home runs? Everybody seems to agree it's just a matter of time before Brown leaves safeties in his dust.
"He has that in him," running backs coach Tony Ball said. "That's all I'm going to say about that."
"Oh, definitely," Tereshinski added. "... He's going to bust through there and take it all the way."
GrantDawg
08-18-2006, 05:15 AM
I wish he had a better line to make holes for him.
Ben E Lou
09-05-2007, 07:55 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=268595<hr> <!--OAS AD="Top"-->
Georgia RB defying odds on field, in classroom
September 5, 2007
Associated Press
ATHENS, Ga. (AP) -- You're supposed to need at least a year -- and often longer -- to fully recover from a torn ACL.
But there's Thomas Brown, running hard andfeeling better than ever in the Georgia backfield, less than 11 months after doctors cut on his right knee.
You're supposed to do just enough to stay academically eligible when playing college football and there's a chance of moving on to the NFL.
But there's Thomas Brown, taking a huge load in the classroom this semester with an eye toward picking up his diploma in 31/2 years.
Never say no to this guy. He'll probably just prove you wrong.
"I have a lot of goals," Brown said. "I really don't do anything else except go to class, go to practice and go home."
While he tries to sneak in six hours of sleep each night, it's not easy. There are plays to learn and film to watch. There are books to read and assignments to write. But Brown figures it will all be worth it when he's playing in the NFL next season, with a Georgia diploma hanging on his wall.
He's taking seven classes this semester: four on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, three on Tuesdays and Thursdays, a total of 21 hours. Five of the courses are in speech, his major. He also signed up for African literature and philosophy. If he passes them all, he graduates.
Then he can turn his attention this spring to getting ready for the NFL draft.
"It would be sad to be here all this time and not walk away with a degree," Brown said. "I come from a very educated family. My mother and father are both very educated. My sister, as well. I thought it was very important for myself and my family to get my degree."
He's just as motivated on the field. After leading the No. 11 Bulldogs in rushing his first two years, Brown tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee midway through last season. He could have taken a redshirt year to make sure he was fully healed, but he read up enough to know that a shorter comeback was possible.
Brown was already running by the summer. He reported for the start of preseason camp -- a mere 9 1/2 months after his injury -- proclaiming himself fully recovered.
"I saw the minimum time for coming back from an ACL was usually six to seven months," he said. "So I kind of made that my goal. I wanted to be back to doing everything, or close to everything, by mid-June. I tried to stay pretty focused and pretty disciplined with my regimen."
Of course, Brown still had plenty of doubters going into last Saturday's season opener against Oklahoma State. But they hushed up after his performance: 12 carries for 48 yards and two touchdowns, three kickoff returns for 80 yards, and a 7-yard pass reception.
Just to have Brown returning kickoffs was remarkable. That was how he hurt his knee last season, and no one would have blamed him if he had asked out of special teams duty.
"Oh yeah, everybody told me that," Brown said with a smile. "That was kind of the first question when I came back: Was I going to get back there and do kickoff returns. When I told them I would, a lot of people had some very strong, choice words for me. But I don't play the game scared."
Georgia's coaches and players are amazed at Brown's focus when he puts his mind to something.
"I don't know what makes him tick the way he does," head coach Mark Richt marveled. "It's like he's got something to prove. His determination and mental toughness are probably unmatched on our team since I've been here. I can't really think of anyone who's tougher than him."
In fact, Richt was the one who revealed Brown's class load. The player planned to keep it to himself.
"He wants to graduate this semester, and he needs 21 hours to do it," Richt said. "A lot of people were telling him not to do it. But he thrives when people say he can't do it. Whether he makes it or not, I don't know. But his goal is to get ready for the NFL when the season's over, and to graduate in 31/2 years. He's not going to prolong it."
Quarterback Matthew Stafford got a sampling of Brown's makeup when the players gathered for summer workouts.
"We were all out there conditioning and working hard, and he's sprinting at the front. I was just amazed," Stafford recalled. "I never saw him with ice on his knee. He never missed a day because of a swollen knee or anything. But if anybody could do it, it's him. He's got the most freakish body ever."
Brown's workload is likely to increase Saturday in the Southeastern Conference opener against South Carolina. Fellow senior Kregg Lumpkin broke a thumb against Oklahoma State and will likely need at least a month to fully recover.
Look for Brown to take plenty of handoffs. Look for Brown to return every kickoff he can. Look for Brown to take his place on the punt coverage team.
Yep, that's right. He also serves as a "gunner" on Georgia punts, running downfield in hopes to getting to the returner just as he's catching the ball.
"He just loves football," Richt said. "He's doing everything he can to help us win. He wants to be the best at everything he does."
cthomer5000
09-05-2007, 08:35 PM
21 credits is crazy for a regular student. Hats off to this kid.
wade moore
09-06-2007, 05:20 AM
21 credits is crazy for a regular student. Hats off to this kid.
My semesters were crazy enough if I went over 15.
albionmoonlight
09-06-2007, 05:39 AM
Amazing guy.
Ben E Lou
09-07-2007, 07:07 PM
I merged all of the TB threads. This'll be quite fun if he's a legit NFL player. Unfortunately, the original thread from the ubb days no longer exists.
Anyway, a much more in-depth article in the same vein is up at ESPN.com now.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3008503
Georgia RB Brown defies odds on and off the field for Bulldogs
<hr noshade="noshade" size="1" width="100%"> By Mark Schlabach
ESPN.com
ATHENS, Ga. -- Last season, as Georgia running back Thomas Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=160061) lay on the turf holding his wrecked right knee after returning the opening kickoff of the second half against Vanderbilt, he faced the typical fears of a student-athlete. "Will I ever be able to play again?" Brown worried. "Will I be as good when I come back? Will I be able to get better?" <table align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2" width="5"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="5"></td><td width="275">http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0907/ncf_a_brown_275.jpg</td></tr><tr><td width="275">Thomas Brown enjoyed an impressive showing in the opener, compiling 135 all-purpose yards.</td></tr></tbody></table> Unlike most people, though, Brown's next concern was this: When can I get back to work? Brown, a senior from nearby Tucker, has been defying odds ever since he arrived on the Georgia campus three years ago. Even though Brown is one of the Bulldogs' smallest players at 5-foot-8 and 200 pounds, he is a bruising runner and one of the strongest players in the program's history. Because of Brown's work ethic and extraordinary physical condition, he returned from a torn anterior cruciate ligament -- an injury that typically requires 12-18 months of recovery -- in less than 10 months. He started last week's opener against Oklahoma State and had 135 all-purpose yards and ran for two touchdowns in 11th-ranked Georgia's 35-14 victory. With senior tailback Kregg Lumpkin (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=146665) sidelined for up to a month with a broken thumb, Brown and redshirt freshman Knowshon Moreno (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=189614) figure to carry an even bigger load against South Carolina at Sanford Stadium on Saturday (ESPN2, 5:45 p.m. ET)."I don't know what makes him tick the way he does," Bulldogs coach Mark Richt said. "It's like he's got something to prove. His determination and mental toughness are probably unmatched on our team since I've been here. I can't really think of anyone who's tougher than him." Or more determined. After undergoing surgery to repair the torn ACL, Brown was riding a stationary bike and doing flexibility drills only a few weeks later. He was running during spring practice and then sprinting ahead of everyone else during summer conditioning. "We were all out there conditioning and working hard, and he's sprinting at the front," Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=183518) said. "I was just amazed. I never saw him with ice on his knee. He never missed a day because of a swollen knee or anything. But if anybody could do it, it's him. He's got the most freakish body ever." <!-- PULL-QUOTE (BEGIN) --> http://assets.espn.go.com/i/story/design07/dropQuote.gif I don't know what makes him tick the way he does. It's like he's got something to prove. His determination and mental toughness are probably unmatched on our team since I've been here. I can't really think of anyone who's tougher than him. http://assets.espn.go.com/i/story/design07/dropQuoteEnd.gif
Bulldogs coach Mark Richt, on Thomas Brown
<!-- PULL-QUOTE (END) --> But the first time Stafford saw Brown, he wondered how the smallish back would protect him from a blitzing middle linebacker. "I didn't meet him the first couple of days I was here," Stafford said. "I saw this kind of quiet guy who wasn't very big. But then I saw him in the weight room and figured he would do OK." Brown has worked extremely hard to build his body. He bench presses 470 pounds, squats 610 and power cleans 357. Georgia calculates its players' strength by a power index -- total weight lifted divided by body weight -- and Brown measured 7.55, the highest mark in the program's history, according to associate strength coach Keith Gray. "From the time he got hurt, he spent so much time in the weight room, riding a bike or lifting weights," Gray said. "It got to the point where we had to try and calm him down. We'd tell him, 'Now, Thomas, you've already lifted weights today. You can't do it again.'" Brown, 21, couldn't sit still because he arrived at Georgia with a four-year plan. He wanted to start on the football team as a freshman, even after breaking his leg during his senior year at Tucker High School in suburban Atlanta. He led the Bulldogs in rushing as a freshman with 875 yards and scored eight touchdowns in 2004, then ran for 736 yards as a sophomore and helped Georgia win the SEC in 2005. More importantly, Brown wanted to graduate in 3˝ years and spend the spring semester of his fourth year preparing for the NFL draft. Brown is taking 21 semester hours of courses this fall -- three classes in speech communication, one in African literature and another in philosophy. He attends four classes on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and three more on Tuesday and Thursday. "I've got a lot of goals," Brown said. "It would be sad to be here all this time and not walk away with a degree. I come from a very educated family. My mother and father are both very educated. My sister, as well. I thought it was very important for myself and my family to get my degree." Throw in football practices four times a week and games on the weekends, and Brown faces an arduous 3˝ months this fall. "He wants to graduate this semester, and he needs 21 hours to do it," Richt said. "A lot of people were telling him not to do it. But he thrives when people say he can't do it. Whether he makes it or not, I don't know. But his goal is to get ready for the NFL when the season's over, and to graduate in 3˝ years. He's not going to prolong it." Brown wasn't going to prolong his rehabilitation, either. Brown said he was fortunate he didn't tear additional knee ligaments. Surgeons gave him the option of repairing his ACL with tissue from his hamstring or patella tendon in his right knee. Brown chose to use tissue from his hamstring because he had a history of patella tendinitis. "I didn't know much about the injury," Brown said. "Everything I've always heard about the injury was bad. I wondered if I'd ever be able to play again. If I did play again, would I be as good or have a chance to be better?" If the first game is any indication, Brown is better than ever. "I think I'm in better condition than I was last year," Brown said. "I can tell by the way I make runs, break tackles and make reads. In the last game, the fourth quarter still felt like the first quarter." Brown is so confident in his knee, he volunteered to return kickoffs again this season. Before getting hurt against Vanderbilt last season, he was one of the SEC's top kick returners with a 25.3-yard average. He averaged 26.7 yards on three kickoff returns against Oklahoma State. Brown also plays on Georgia's punt team as a gunner, a player who sprints down the field to make tackles. "I've been folded up and rolled up every which way, so I was confident in the knee," Brown said. "That was kind of the first question when I came back: Was I going to get back there and do kickoff returns? When I told them I would, a lot of people had some very strong, choice words for me. "But I don't play the game scared. I didn't start playing the game scared, so I'm not going to do it now." Thanks to Brown, the Bulldogs' offense is better than expected. Stafford, who struggled mightily as a freshman, is much more comfortable standing in the pocket and makes fewer mistakes. Richt, who coached Heisman Trophy-winning quarterbacks Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke at Florida State, said Stafford is the "most talented guy overall that I've been able to coach." But with two freshmen and a juco transfer starting on the offensive line, new offensive coordinator Mike Bobo figures to lean heavily on his running game. And with Lumpkin sidelined, Brown and Moreno will have to lead the way. Moreno, from Belford, N.J., ran for 70 yards on 20 carries and had two catches for 51 yards against Oklahoma State. "He's a lot more wide open than I am," Brown said. "I don't see myself as a conservative runner, but compared to him I'm conservative. He has great speed and great vision and great hands as well." Saturday's SEC opener against the Gamecocks will go a long way in determining whether Georgia has a great season. At least the Bulldogs know Brown will do his part. "He just loves football," Richt said. "He's doing everything he can to help us win. He wants to be the best at everything he does."
Eaglesfan27
09-07-2007, 07:23 PM
Very cool articles. I always love hearing of players that actually take advantage of getting their education while in school.
Ben E Lou
09-27-2007, 07:22 AM
Very cool articles. I always love hearing of players that actually take advantage of getting their education while in school.
Well, it runs in the family...
http://onlineathens.com/stories/092607/football_20070926068.shtml
Brown's upbringing shows on, off the field
Uplifting
http://www.onlineathens.com/images/092607/25678_223.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:link_photo%28%29;) Georgia running back Thomas Brown has five total touchdowns (three rushing and two receiving) for the Bulldogs this season.
Trevor Frey / Staff
<mcc story=""></mcc> As bishop of the Fourth District of the Christian Methodist Episcopal Church, Thomas Brown Sr. presides over 325 churches consisting of approximately 65,000 people in Mississippi and Louisiana. That area is in the thick of SEC country, where football is a religion to some and the preferred team of choice in those states is not Georgia, where son Thomas Brown Jr. is the starting tailback and leads the team in all-purpose yards.
"Virtually everyone who knows me knows about Thomas playing there and many have become weekly watchers of the Bulldogs because of Thomas being my son," Thomas Sr. said. "I got a call last Saturday night from Shreveport, La., while we were at the (Alabama) game. One of my preachers called me when he got that first touchdown. In fact, he texted me initially to say how sweet that run was (on a 10-yard screen pass). Then he called me after the game was won in overtime."
Brown's parents returned to their native Mississippi when his father was elected 54th bishop of the CME church in July 2006.
<!---START FLV VIDEO---><!---END FLV VIDEO---> Thomas and Louise Brown now live in Terry, Miss., a suburb of Jackson. The Ole Miss medical school is located in Jackson, but its main campus in Oxford is nearly 190 miles north. The Browns got married 35 years ago while attending Ole Miss. Georgia plays Ole Miss Saturday in Sanford Stadium.
Thomas Brown Sr. graduated from the school in 1973 and Louise Brown completed her degree at Spelman College in Atlanta while Thomas Sr. attended seminary.
Thomas Sr., who answered a calling to preach while at Ole Miss and previously served as president of the Phillips School of Theology in Atlanta and as pastor of the College Park CME Church, has a doctorate of theology. Louise Brown, who retired from her job as an instructional coordinator in DeKalb County, has a doctorate in education.
"When you meet his parents or even go in their house, you just see the kid didn't fall too far from the tree, so to speak," coach Mark Richt said. "He's just a really solid kid from a very solid house."
Thomas' sister, Nicole, has a master's degree and may pursue a doctorate. She is a coordinator of a program that helps middle school students prepare for college in Statesville, N.C.
"I just come from a very educated family," said Brown, a senior who is taking a whopping 21 credits this semester to earn his undergraduate degree in speech communications in December. "Studying is very important, not only for myself but for my family to keep that going."
The Browns tried to impress upon Thomas growing up the importance of academics. "With his playing football, of course, there is competition between football and academics," Thomas Sr. said. "With his Mom's and my help, we tried to keep his focus on academics. He's known all along how important it is to get a college education."
Running backs coach Tony Ball says the impact of Brown's upbringing shows in his interaction with players and coaches and the respect he has for authority. "You can see it in his nature and demeanor," Ball said. "You can see not only did he have both parents, but you can tell he was very well nurtured. There's not an anger about him. You can tell he was raised in a good wholesome environment."
Assistant coach Jon Fabris calls Brown "the best football player on the team," even after coming off an ACL injury last season.
"There aren't too many guys that are your leading rusher the year before he got hurt that are still covering punts, will block on a punt return if you ask him to, will be on the kickoff team," Fabris said. "At a meeting, he's not like some prima donna sashaying in at the last minute. He's one of the first people in his seat and is all business. And the guy is going to play. He's just a warrior"
Despite living in Mississippi, the Browns still make it to Georgia games. They stay at their home in Stone Mountain before home games in Athens.
Brown was highly regarded coming out of Tucker High School. Ole Miss and Mississippi State weren't on his recruiting radar.
"Most of my family is still in Mississippi," said Brown, ninth on Georgia's all-time rushing list with 2,080 yards. "They're not really Rebel fans. They're kind of my family fans. They didn't care who I played for."
I knew most of that, but I didn't know that the Browns went to Ole Miss in the late 60s/early 70s. I'll bet THAT was interesting! :eek:
Ben E Lou
12-18-2007, 07:15 AM
Very cool articles. I always love hearing of players that actually take advantage of getting their education while in school.
From the Macon Telegraph...
When Brown walked into Stegeman Coliseum on Friday and saw the floor set up for graduation ceremonies, he got a chill, he said.
"My heart started beating a little faster," he said. "I have been anticipating it all week long, but I have been trying to downplay it and focus on finishing up strong. I was talking to my mom about two or three days ago and telling her that feeling I have of joy doesn't compare to anything I have ever done in my life, including athletics."
On to the Sugar Bowl, and to preparing for the combines. Kiper recently said that he thought TB would be a late first/early second. NFL teams will drool over his combine results and work ethic, like his relative low use, and be somewhat concerned about his injury history.
Travis
12-18-2007, 10:56 AM
From the Macon Telegraph...
On to the Sugar Bowl, and to preparing for the combines. Kiper recently said that he thought TB would be a late first/early second. NFL teams will drool over his combine results and work ethic, like his relative low use, and be somewhat concerned about his injury history.
So right around the time the Seahawks might be looking to get a RB. That would be absolutely fantastic.
Ben E Lou
04-27-2008, 02:31 PM
Dat bot went 6(6) to the Falcons.
Celeval
04-27-2008, 02:32 PM
Congratulations to TB, who just got drafted by the Falcons in the sixth round.
Cringer
04-27-2008, 03:04 PM
I wonder what Danny Ware is doing today.............
Ben E Lou
04-27-2008, 03:07 PM
He's a New York Giant, is he not?
Cringer
04-27-2008, 03:13 PM
Is he? I don't know. The last I read about him was at the top of this page and I figured he faded away. Good for him if he is in the NFL then.
Buccaneer
04-27-2008, 03:21 PM
So the injury/ACL question caused him to slip all the way down to the 6th round?
Swaggs
04-27-2008, 04:30 PM
I'm guessing Mr. Brown will have a lot of jerseys sold. :)
stevew
04-27-2008, 04:32 PM
So the injury/ACL question caused him to slip all the way down to the 6th round?
Yeah, i was curious about that as well.
Ben E Lou
04-27-2008, 04:38 PM
So the injury/ACL question caused him to slip all the way down to the 6th round?
He did quite well everywhere in the combines, except for the 40. I'm not sure if it was the ACL or the added bulk that hurt him there. He has the injury-proneness questions to answer, no question about that.
I'm guessing Mr. Brown will have a lot of jerseys sold. :)
I would imagine that some of my ol' buddies in the THS Quarterback Club are celebrating tonight. Assuming he makes the team, TB landing in Atlanta could be a significant financial windfall for that organization.
JetsIn06
04-27-2008, 04:43 PM
Ware was on the Jets during TC and the pre-season, and was surprisingly cut before the season last year. A lot of people expected him to stick.
Then he went to the Giants as someone said. Not sure if he's still there.
Swaggs
04-27-2008, 04:51 PM
I would guess Knowshon Moreno taking a lot of his carries may have been a factor, as well.
Ben E Lou
04-27-2008, 04:55 PM
Heh. KM was certainly a big factor in Ware leaving early. He point-blank said that he declared early "because Knowshown is the real deal." Were it not for the ACL injury, TB was headed out, too.
gstelmack
04-27-2008, 04:58 PM
Dat bot went 6(6) to the Falcons.
Wow, the University of Georgia engineering program must be so proud.
:D
JeeberD
04-27-2008, 06:43 PM
That's gotta be very cool for him, to be selected by his hometown team. Best of luck to him...
digamma
04-27-2008, 07:15 PM
Really happy for Thomas! Now, if he can equal Patrick's number of Super Bowl rings....
sabotai
04-27-2008, 07:37 PM
The Giants still have Danny Ware on their roster, so he's still there for now.
GrantDawg
04-27-2008, 09:20 PM
Nice they picked TB, but this has to have been the worst Falcons draft ever, and that is saying something. They picked up how many LB (when that was the strongest position on the team) and grand total of 0 DT and 1 OL? Just insane.
QuikSand
12-02-2009, 08:37 PM
Well, he apparently got signed to the Browns' practice squad a few weeks ago... hard to imagine a better situation for Thomas to get a real NFL look.
cuervo72
12-02-2009, 09:35 PM
You know, I had just thought of him the other day when watching Moreno and the Broncos play the Giants. Good bump.
QuikSand
12-04-2009, 12:41 PM
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/12/antonio_gates_made_a_transitio.html
No rush to get help: The rushing load in the wake of Jamal Lewis' season-ending injury is exclusively in the hands of Chris Jennings and Jerome Harrison. Coach Eric Mangini didn't sound like he feels an urgent need to add a third back.
"We usually activate two [for games] more often than not," Mangini said. "We'll look at different guys. We've brought different guys in not just this week but all throughout the course of the season at all positions. We have Thomas Brown on the practice squad. He's done a nice job. We'll evaluate all those things."
flere-imsaho
12-04-2009, 01:06 PM
Considering exactly how far in the doghouse Harrison seems to be, let's hope Brown gets his chance!
GrantDawg
12-05-2009, 06:26 AM
Nice they picked TB, but this has to have been the worst Falcons draft ever, and that is saying something. They picked up how many LB (when that was the strongest position on the team) and grand total of 0 DT and 1 OL? Just insane.
Haha. Thanks for bumping this. I was pretty wrong on that one, but then this years draft which felt pretty good has been a complete bust.
Anyway, I hope Thomas gets some playing time somewhere. It is good to see AA playing.
lungs
02-21-2014, 03:32 PM
Looks like dat boy is now the RB Coach of the Wisconsin Badgers
Link (http://host.madison.com/sports/college/football/badgers-football-hiring-of-thomas-brown-as-uw-running-backs/article_ae069afd-9844-504b-bcc9-ee1692a6b350.html)
GrantDawg
02-21-2014, 03:48 PM
TB was such a good guy. I miss him.
QuikSand
02-21-2014, 05:46 PM
Seriously, among college football position coaches... "running backs at Wisconsin" would have to rate awfully highly, right? No disrespect to the old Trojans, but Madison has basically been Halfback U of late.
mckerney
02-21-2014, 06:01 PM
Seriously, among college football position coaches... "running backs at Wisconsin" would have to rate awfully highly, right? No disrespect to the old Trojans, but Madison has basically been Halfback U of late.
It's more that they've been OLine U.
lungs
02-21-2014, 06:13 PM
The NFL track record on Wisconsin running backs is spotty. The O Line probably overrates them to a degree, like mckerney says. Montee Ball looks like he could be pretty good.
Thomas Brown will get to work with Melvin Gordon next year, who I feel is the best RB to come through Wisconsin ever (yes, better than Ron Dayne)
General Mike
02-21-2014, 06:54 PM
The NFL track record on Wisconsin running backs is spotty. The O Line probably overrates them to a degree, like mckerney says. Montee Ball looks like he could be pretty good.
Thomas Brown will get to work with Melvin Gordon next year, who I feel is the best RB to come through Wisconsin ever (yes, better than Ron Dayne)
Thats because they had no tread left on the tires by the time they got done there.
lungs
02-17-2015, 08:24 AM
Dat boy heading back home to Georgia. We'll be sad to see him leave Wisconsin but it's understandable. Good recruiter, good guy, and good coach. He definitely has a future in the coaching business.
QuikSand
10-16-2023, 12:02 PM
Dat Boy call plays so good...
QuikSand
10-16-2023, 12:03 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Panthers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Panthers</a> coach Frank Reich informed players today he has decided to hand over play-calling duties to OC Thomas Brown, sources tell me, <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeGarafolo</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a>.<br><br>Brown, 37, is highly regarded. Now, with Carolina 0-6, he’ll call the shots for No. 1 pick Bryce Young. <a href="https://t.co/vNjFyfRKor">pic.twitter.com/vNjFyfRKor</a></p>— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1713957230314188899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
CrimsonFox
10-16-2023, 12:06 PM
dat boy necros....necros so good
Thomkal
10-16-2023, 12:21 PM
I hope that allows Young to throw down the field more
albionmoonlight
10-16-2023, 12:54 PM
If Carolina improves, dat boy better get a billion HC offers. Every young white coach that's ever been in the same room as McVay gets to be an NFL head coach. Brown deserves the same treatment.
JonInMiddleGA
10-16-2023, 02:50 PM
Heh, I popped over to make sure this had been posted already
flere-imsaho
10-17-2023, 08:13 PM
This thread is 20 years old.
albionmoonlight
10-18-2023, 06:45 AM
This board's commitment to reusing threads instead of starting new ones is one of my favorite things about it.
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