CM4: Everybody's Jaded?

[samifan24]

Guys- In my current CM4 game I am ranked #1 in the English Third Division. I have several players who are "feeling jaded," yet they have long-term contracts. I'm not sure how to stop them from feeling jaded, any ideas?

[EagleFan]

I think a couple of hookers in their hotel rooms might do it, as long as they're not planning on coaching Alabama anytime soon.

[henry296]

Jaded means they are tired. Give them a rest.

Todd

[Marc Vaughan]

Jaded means that the player isn't happy with the current situation at the club - generally it means he's being overplayed but can also mean:

"Feels the club relies upon him too much"
"Is having trouble handling the pressure of first team football"
"Feels that he needs to be rested"
"Is having trouble motivating himself"
"Worried that he is past his peak"

(Strings taken from the forthcoming EP#5 patch where I've clarified this aspect of the game)

[QuikSand]

Cool - good item to expand on, Marc. I think the added detail will be helpful... there's a pretty big difference among some of those.

[samifan24]

Originally posted by Marc Vaughan
Jaded means that the player isn't happy with the current situation at the club - generally it means he's being overplayed but can also mean:

"Feels the club relies upon him too much"
"Is having trouble handling the pressure of first team football"
"Feels that he needs to be rested"
"Is having trouble motivating himself"
"Worried that he is past his peak"

(Strings taken from the forthcoming EP#5 patch where I've clarified this aspect of the game)

Thanks, Marc. I'm glad to see that those new strings will be added to the EP#5 patch, as they will only further the realism of the game. Thanks for the clarification.

[cartman]

Originally posted by Marc Vaughan
Jaded means that the player isn't happy with the current situation at the club - generally it means he's being overplayed but can also mean:

"Feels the club relies upon Fritz too much"
"Is having trouble handling the pressure of trying to post more than JeeberD"
"Feels that he needs to be meet Shorty's mom"
"Is having trouble motivating himself to defend girls who dress like sluts"
"Worried that he is past his peak and cannot be both cocky and funny"

(Strings taken from the forthcoming EP#56781 patch where I've clarified this aspect of the game)

Wow, it seems that FOFC is infiltrating the CM universe!
:D

[Capital]

I can't access the CM4 forum pages, work stops that site for some reason, but has anyone posted over there when this new EP#5 will be released???

[McSweeny]

Originally posted by Capital
I can't access the CM4 forum pages, work stops that site for some reason, but has anyone posted over there when this new EP#5 will be released???

last i heard it was supposed to be out sometime this week

[BucDawg40]

Originally posted by Marc Vaughan
Jaded means that the player isn't happy with the current situation at the club - generally it means he's being overplayed but can also mean:

"Feels the club relies upon him too much"
"Is having trouble handling the pressure of first team football"
"Feels that he needs to be rested"
"Is having trouble motivating himself"
"Worried that he is past his peak"

(Strings taken from the forthcoming EP#5 patch where I've clarified this aspect of the game)

I started a new game after patch 5 and played over a year. I have had players be jaded, but I have never seen one of these strings. Are they really there?

[andy m]

i am pretty sure they aren't showing up.

[The Afoci]

I had a message from one of my jaded players asking to leave the club because I took him out of a game we were winning 3-0. He basically said he felt bad and that if I was going to let him play first team football, keep him in the whole time. I had never got that prior to EP5 so maybe that is what was meant.

[Marc Vaughan]

Will be re-testing the displaying of these strings tomorrow (sorry, would have been last week - but I've been ill).

[Swaggs]

Man, I really wish I enjoyed soccer. This game sounds so awesome.

Why can't we clone Vaughn and train the clones to enjoy football (American) and baseball more? :)

[klayman]

Originally posted by Marc Vaughan
Will be re-testing the displaying of these strings tomorrow (sorry, would have been last week - but I've been ill).

Too much birthday cake? Or have you been drinking too much now that Bobby has left Brighton? :)

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by Swaggs
Man, I really wish I enjoyed soccer. This game sounds so awesome.

Why can't we clone Vaughn and train the clones to enjoy football (American) and baseball more? :)

Not the problem. Finding a developer that would pay as many people as they have working on CM is. How many people do you have just working on this one program, Marc? It has to be pretty close to the number that works on Madden.

[BreizhManu]

just go to the website you'll see the current SI employees :

Oliver Collyer (Co-Chairman)
Paul Collyer (Co-Chairman)
Miles Jacobson (Managing Director)
Svein Kvernoey (Software Engineer)
Grant Appleyard (Software Engineer)
Marc Vaughan (Head of Development)
Phillip Foose (Software Engineer)
Sam Deane (Software Engineer)
Paul Norman (Software Engineer/Network Admin)
Risto Remes (EHM Developer)
Keith Flannery (Software Engineer)
Kevin Turner (Software Engineer)
Ammaniel Araia (Software Engineer)
Dean Gripton (CM Quiz master)
Mark Woodger (Head of research and translation)
Pete Sottrel (Head UK researcher)
Marc Duffy (Internet Dev/Head of QA)
Joe O'Reilly (Lead Tester)
Marlon Davidson (Part time chief!)
Alex Bell (Office Manager)


and you add all the researchers around the world for the translation/database

[Godzilla Blitz]

Originally posted by Swaggs
Man, I really wish I enjoyed soccer. This game sounds so awesome.

Why can't we clone Vaughn and train the clones to enjoy football (American) and baseball more? :)

Swaggs: You may still enjoy it. I didn't know diddly about soccer until I started playing the game, and playing the gave me a greater appreciation for the sport. I had a blast watching the World Cup last year.

I'd say for every player out there that has trouble getting into the game because they don't like/understand soccer, there is another player that has absolutely loved the game even though they know next to nothing about the game.

You might want to give the demo a try. It lets you play six months, and that is a long enough amount of time to give you a good feel for how the game plays. Be patient at first, though. It might take a couple of tries before the whole thing "clicks".

Marc: I hope you feel better!

[The Afoci]

Swaggs, I knew nothing about soccer at all when I got this game. I played thru one season and put it down for about a month waiting for some patches. When they came out I played it again seeing if I could get it and I did. Now I love soccer having never really watched a game. I check soccernet.com everyday to look at transfers and eagerly await Lincoln City's schedule to start up this season and for them to make a run at Division 2. I am now a soccer nerd...

[cartman]

My eternal dream is that a American football equivalent to CM is created. How cool would it be to follow a high school player through college and onto a HoF pro career?

I was doing the draft import feature from NCAA 2003 into Madden 2003, and realized once a player is drafted, you can't see his original college anymore.

I think if this game was at the same level of playability and realism as CM is, the game would be huge in the US.

But, it's still just a dream at this point.

[condors]

there is a blurb in the cm4 offical guide that says thank you for these first 11 years in the next 11 we plan to bring you more sports

hockey is coming not sure after that

[Karim]

Whoever comes up with a 'Football Universe' type game ... NFL, AFL, CFL, WFL, NCAA, CIS, High School... to dream but I'm sure it will eventually happen, later than sooner.

[BucDawg40]

Originally posted by Marc Vaughan
Will be re-testing the displaying of these strings tomorrow (sorry, would have been last week - but I've been ill).

Hey Marc, I hope you are feeling better. Is there an update on this issue?