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Fritz
07-28-2003, 09:26 AM
http://www.al.com/news/mobileregister/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news/105912475466290.xml

Charge: Father, daughter married

Authorities accuse couple of illegal incestuous union

07/25/03

By KAREN TOLKKINEN
Staff Reporter


A Mobile County grand jury has said that a Theodore husband and wife may really be father and daughter and ought to be tried for incest.

Carrol Eugene Ferdinandsen, 53, and Alice Faye Ferdinandsen, 30, were arrested Thursday and charged with incest and fraud in connection with their May 2 marriage in a civil ceremony in Mobile County. They were indicted in June.

According to Mobile County court records, Alice was the third child of Carrol and Shirley Faye Ferdinandsen, and her mother filed for divorce when Alice was only 4 months old. Her mother said Thursday that she later met and married Charles Stewart, who Alice listed as her father on her marriage license application.

Up to that point, Alice had used "Ferdinandsen" as her last name, according to court records.

Incestuous marriages are forbidden in all states, in part due to fears about genetic mutation and child abuse. They still occur, though rarely, according to a survey of news articles from around the country.

The Ferdinandsens could not be reached for comment Thursday. They were still being held in the Mobile County Metro Jail, with bond set at $8,500 for each, officials said.

Family members said they had heard about the marriage and disapproved of the relationship.

"My father is completely convinced that she's not his daughter, no blood relation at all," David Ferdinandsen, who said he is Carrol's son and Alice's older brother. He's tried to discourage his father from the relationship, he said, but his father won't listen.

Alice's mother, whose last name is now Crayne, said Carrol is definitely Alice's father. She didn't meet Charles Stewart until Alice was 3 or 4 years old, she said.

"I told her she was stupid for marrying her own daddy," Shirley Crayne said. "I told him he was crazy and stupid. I told her I didn't ever want to hear from her again."

Crayne started crying during an interview Thursday. It hurts so bad, she said, because Alice is her youngest child and she worked hard taking care of the children when they were young.

After the divorce, the couple's three children were placed in foster care, David Ferdinandsen said. They were there for five years, he said. They went to live with their mother, and later moved in with their father, he said.

Crayne said Alice sometimes called Carrol "Daddy" and sometimes just "Carrol."

Crayne said she would scold her daughter when she used her father's first name.

During the 1980s, Carrol and Alice went to Illinois, staying for months, David Ferdinandsen said. When they returned, Alice went back to school, he said.

According to Mobile County Circuit Court records, Carrol pleaded guilty to second-degree rape in 1989. The records do not identify the victim and prosecutors could not be reached for comment Thursday. He spent a year in jail.

Alice moved to Texas, where she got a boyfriend and a job at a hamburger stand, her mother said. But in the mid-1990s, Carrol came looking for her and she ended up moving back with him to Theodore, according to her mother and brother. They've been together ever since, relatives said.

Crayne said she never heard that Carrol claimed that Alice wasn't his daughter until just a few years ago. Now Alice believes it, too, she said.

Abe Sargent
07-28-2003, 09:38 AM
Ah the stories I could tell growing up in very rural WV.....

-Anxiety

cuervo72
07-28-2003, 09:41 AM
Nowadays they need to remake Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice as Bob & Ted & Carrol & Alice.....

Anrhydeddu
07-28-2003, 09:56 AM
Imagine that, the courts being judgemental on who should marry.

Bee
07-28-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Anxiety
Ah the stories I could tell growing up in very rural WV.....

-Anxiety

ditto. I don't even think this would have made the papers back where I grew up. :D

The_herd
07-28-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Bee
ditto. I don't even think this would have made the papers back where I grew up. :D

And incest in Alabama should?

Bonegavel
07-28-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
Imagine that, the courts being judgemental on who should marry.

Good point. The only problem is they don't seem smart enough to "keep it in the bedroom".

SplitPersonality1
07-28-2003, 03:02 PM
Anybody remember the X-Files episode called "Home".

It involved incest and genetic mutations and was one of the creepiest hours I've ever seen on TV.

Fonzie
07-28-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by SplitPersonality1
Anybody remember the X-Files episode called "Home".

It involved incest and genetic mutations and was one of the creepiest hours I've ever seen on TV.

Yes, that was perhaps the most amazing X-Files episode I've seen. "Creepy" is the best word for it. Creepy in the extreme.