team names & cities

[cthomer5000]

Am I correct in assuming that we'll all have the option of renaming our teams and/or cities?

Regardless of professional vs. fictional roster, I think the majority of my enjoyment would come from building my fictional franchise.

[cuervo72]

I would certainly hope so.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by cuervo72
I would certainly hope so.

Ideally I think it would be pretty fun if we broke up the divisions geographically, so that we were roughly aligned by our real-world locations.

Plus cuervo, I wouldn't want all the work you've been doing for me to go to waste. :)

[cuervo72]

:D I had been wondering about divisions and such. I was thinking that we could associate each team with a number and use a random generator to determine an order for chosing teams/locations and possibly division.

Our "rival" league is already on the ball with chosing cities etc, but we haven't decided what to do as far as franchises go yet, but we do have time.

Pick a favorite yet? :)

[albionmoonlight]

Regardless of rosters, I am for picking our own city and team nicknames.

[GrantDawg]

I was hoping we'd stick to the NFL. :(

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by cthomer5000
Ideally I think it would be pretty fun if we broke up the divisions geographically, so that we were roughly aligned by our real-world locations.Ooooooh!!! Celeval, GrantDawg, KWhit and SkyDog fightin' it out in the Atlanta Metro Division sounds like fun.

[Kodos]

I will OWN the Rigel IV division!

[HornedFrog Purple]

North, South, East and West would work... of course that means north, south, east and west of Texas.

I would like to be in Senator's division if at all possible, we have a brain to share.

[Fritz]

I am a fictional first guy, but don't care how alignment works.

Grant: they couldn't all be real anyway- the NFL only has 29 teams*






















*If you don't count Arizona, Cincy, or Atlanta

[cthomer5000]

tossing out alignment ideas (I've had a lot of time on my hands this afternoon):

This is based of everyones listed locations on their profile, and could give us a surprisingly good starting point to work from. This is of course assuming a majority of us would want this sort of setup.

EDIT: revised 4.39 PM.

<font face=courier>
Atlantic
Subby Washington, DC
Bee Fairfax, VA
QuikSand Annapolis, MD
cuervo72 Maryland
Fritz Hampton Roads, VA
Samdari Springfield, VA
Blackadar North Carolina (?)

Deep South
Senator Texas
HornedFrogPurple Texas
albionmoonlight New Orleans, LA
FBPro Tennessee (?)

Georgia
SkyDog Tucker, GA
GRantDawg Covington, GA
KWhit Conyers, GA
Celeval Atlanta, GA
Buzzbee Atlanta, GA

International
Ryan S Ayr, Scotland
MIJB#19 Netherlands
Darkiller Paris, France

Midwest
mckerney Minneapolis, MN
Daimyo Chicago
Kodos Chicago (?)
primelord St. Louis (?)

Northeast
Solecismic Amherst, NH
Hell Atlantic Astoria, NY
cthomer5000 new jersey

West
Vince Isla Vista, CA
Sack Attaack California
Chief Rum Anaheim, CA
TroyF Denver, CO
Buccaneer Colorado
Jason TobiasIV California (?)</font>

[cuervo72]

Goody. Put me in the division with Deep Blue...

edit: Kodos and Tobias could be in the "Interstellar Division" ;)

[Ben E Lou]

Oops!

I forgot Buzzbee. I think he's in Georgia as well.

[mckerney]

cthomer - I'm currently in Minneapolis, Minnesota

[HornedFrog Purple]

yes ct, Senator and I actually live in the same county.

[cthomer5000]

One argument against going regional: If/when people get replaced, everything starts going to shit.

[Fritz]

Hampton Roads, Va

[albionmoonlight]

Originally posted by cthomer5000
One argument against going regional: If/when people get replaced, everything starts going to shit.

This brings to mind an issue--when someone takes over a team, will they get to pick a new city and/or mascot for the team, or will our choices here be set in stone?

Also, I am cool with putting my fictional team anywhere. New Orleans is great, but I can start us wherever a team needs to be to fit the schedule.

[SackAttack]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I was hoping we'd stick to the NFL. :(

ditto. :(

[Buzzbee]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Ooooooh!!! Celeval, GrantDawg, KWhit and SkyDog fightin' it out in the Atlanta Metro Division sounds like fun.

SkyDog showin' fellow Atlantan Buzzbee no love. :(

[Buzzbee]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Oops!

I forgot Buzzbee. I think he's in Georgia as well.

Yup. At least he remembered, even if it was a little late. :)

[Buzzbee]

By the way, Blacky is in North Carolina last I heard. Don't think he ever made it to Florida.

Tobias is California if I remember correctly.

[Ben E Lou]

FBPro--> Tennessee
primelord-->St. Louis (I'm pretty sure)

[cuervo72]

I think second generation owners should get the chance to move the teams if they wish, but doing so within the game's own dynamic would be preferable. At least for a geographic move - I guess a nickname could change at any time.

I'm up for being located anywhere.

[Samdari]

Springfield is Virginia, maybe 10 minutes from Bee. Hampton Roads and Annapolis are way inferior to true beltway denizens.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by albionmoonlight
This brings to mind an issue--when someone takes over a team, will they get to pick a new city and/or mascot for the team, or will our choices here be set in stone?

Also, I am cool with putting my fictional team anywhere. New Orleans is great, but I can start us wherever a team needs to be to fit the schedule.

Very good issue. I think this is the sort of stuff we'll need to iron out before starting the league.

Initially changing the city names is purely cosmetic. As for actually moving to a different city within the game, we'll have to figure out how to handle that.

[HornedFrog Purple]

I like the regional idea but perhaps instead of using regional names for conferences we could use famous NFL (or fictional) players like:

Dean Houston
Brock Sheriff
Walter Payton etc.

That would prevent the "why is Reno in the Deep South?"

Or we could use the fictional names for player awards.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by Samdari
Springfield is Virginia, maybe 10 minutes from Bee. Hampton Roads and Annapolis are way inferior to true beltway denizens.

I only know of one good thing in Sprinfield.

[FBPro]

How much more "deep south" can you actually get than Tennessee? "You hear'd the young'uns tawkin 'round yare?"

[Ben E Lou]

Of course, just a few years ago Atlanta was in the Western Division, while Dallas and Arizona were in the Eastern...

[Subby]

Great work on the divisions, ct...

Those are the owners I would pick to compete against.

I am against using real NFL teams >> I would like to have some creative license with my team...gives more of a sense of ownership than running "the washington redskins or miami dolphins"

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
I like the regional idea but perhaps instead of using regional names for conferences we could use famous NFL (or fictional) players like:

Dean Houston
Brock Sheriff
Walter Payton etc.

That would prevent the "why is Reno in the Deep South?"

Or we could use the fictional names for player awards.

Not a bad idea at all, it would also help get around the inevitable problem when a team in the Deep South gets replaced by someone living in Hawaii.

Maybe we could start with a geographicl basis (just for the hell of it) but actually name the divisions after FOFC legends/terminology.

The Dola Division, etc...

[Daimyo]

Kodos can have the Chicago market. I'm leaning toward putting my team in either South Florida or Indiana.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by Subby
I am against using real NFL teams >> I would like to have some creative license with my team...gives more of a sense of ownership than running "the washington redskins or miami dolphins"

Exactly. Maybe 10 people would get teams they would actually want to run, and the rest of us would either be running a team we could care less about, or even worse - running Arizona or Cincinnati.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Should we start a thread where people want their teams first? (ie city) It would help with the regional alignment idea?

[Darkiller]

I think I was more in favor of the real NFL franchises...but then again, this geographical thing brought up by Cthomer looks pretty interesting too so...I'm very split on this issue.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
Should we start a thread where people want their teams first? (ie city) It would help with the regional alignment idea?

A much smarter idea than mine. Go for it.

[KWhit]

I like the idea of being in divisions geographically, based on our real life locations. Specifically so I could compete with Celeval, and the two Dogs since I have met them all in RL and will see them from time to time. (I don't think I've met Buzzbee, but maybe... I'm not trying to leave you out of the love, I just don't know you as well.)

I also like the idea of renaming our teams to personalize them a bit, though I think this might make more sense if we went with fictional players.

[Buzzbee]

Originally posted by KWhit
I like the idea of being in divisions geographically, based on our real life locations. Specifically so I could compete with Celeval, and the two Dogs since I have met them all in RL and will see them from time to time. (I don't think I've met Buzzbee, but maybe... I'm not trying to leave you out of the love, I just don't know you as well.)

I also like the idea of renaming our teams to personalize them a bit, though I think this might make more sense if we went with fictional players.

No love lost KWhit. Understandable.

[Ben E Lou]

Finances could become an issue with five teams in metro Atlanta. That's another area we need to make some decisions on.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Finances could become an issue with five teams in metro Atlanta. That's another area we need to make some decisions on.

This is assuming we can actually "change" the starting cities of the franchises. In former versions, we couldn't do anything beyond just changing the city name (which had no effect on what market it was actually stationed in).


So, unless Jim has given us the option to actually select which cities we start with, the 4 Georgia teams will really be Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay (for example).

[KWhit]

I agree SD. I was more thinking that we could perhaps be in the same division but pick different cities for our teams. If we did go the fictional team name route, I wouldn't mind putting my team in Florida or Tennessee or somewhere else if we wanted to do a Southeastern division.

[KWhit]

Originally posted by cthomer5000
So, unless Jim has given us the option to actually select which cities we start with, the 4 Georgia teams will really be Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay (for example).

Dola - That's what I was thinking also and that would really make more sense anyway.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by KWhit
Dola - That's what I was thinking also and that would really make more sense anyway.

I pray that Jim has actually given us the option of editing the starting 32 cities.. It will make this a LOT more interesting. Imagine the league meetings when someone wants to move into a competing market?

[KWhit]

Originally posted by cthomer5000
I pray that Jim has actually given us the option of editing the starting 32 cities.. It will make this a LOT more interesting. Imagine the league meetings when someone wants to move into a competing market?

Good point. That could be fun. :)

[Daimyo]

EDIT: missed the few posts above... I was assuming here that we could customize the actual location of franchises at the start when I made this post.

I assume we'll want to try to stick close to cities that exist in the database (since apparently the location of the city makes a difference). Is it possible/will we allow to change the name of the city we want as long as its reasonably close so we can use names not in the database?

A couple of examples:

change Indianapolis, IN to Columbus, IN - difference of about 30 miles
change Cheyenne to Wyomining - to use a state instead of a city
change San Francisco to Golden State
etc, etc

[Buzzbee]

Here is a proposed Divisional alignment, based on everyones current geographical location. Of course if we are forced to pick from existing cities, this could become moot. Also, if people in the "pick your cities and teams" thread move around, this could become moot as well. Anyway, here it is.

Oh, and albionmoonlight, I just couldn't find a good place and since New Orleans has a heavy French influence, I figgered I'd put you with Darkiller.

<font face=courier>
Coastal
Subby Washington, DC
Bee Fairfax, VA
QuikSand Annapolis, MD
Samdari Springfield, VA

Dixie
FBPro Tennessee (?)
Blackadar North Carolina (?)
Buzzbee Atlanta, GA
Fritz Hampton Roads, VA

Northeast
Solecismic Amherst, NH
Hell Atlantic Astoria, NY
cthomer5000 new jersey
cuervo72 Maryland

Georgia
SkyDog Tucker, GA
GRantDawg Covington, GA
KWhit Conyers, GA
Celeval Atlanta, GA

International
Ryan S Ayr, Scotland
MIJB#19 Netherlands
Darkiller Paris, France
albionmoonlight New Orleans, LA

Midwest
mckerney Minneapolis, MN
Daimyo Chicago
Kodos Chicago (?)
primelord St. Louis (?)

Big Sky
Senator Texas
HornedFrogPurple Texas
TroyF Denver, CO
Buccaneer Colorado

West
Vince Isla Vista, CA
Sack Attaack California
Chief Rum Anaheim, CA
Jason TobiasIV California (?)
</font>

[KWhit]

Looks good Buzz.

[Samdari]

You really should put the 4 DC teams together. Hampton roads is nowhere near DC.

[Buzzbee]

Originally posted by Samdari
You really should put the 4 DC teams together. Hampton roads is nowhere near DC.

Done.

{EDIT: Although, it would probably be better for you to go up against the likes of me, rather than QuikSand, Subby, and Bee}

[Vince]

I like what you guys have done so far :) I'm all for renaming cities and team names if we go fictional.

[Kodos]

Is Rigel IV an option? Or are we stuck with Earth cities/planets?

I like the name Rigel IV Marauders. :)

[MrBug708]

Originally posted by Vince
I like what you guys have done so far :) I'm all for renaming cities and team names if we go fictional.


Copy-Cat

[Neuqua]

You know Bug, leagues have gone the completely fictional route even before the CFL right?

:)

[Ben E Lou]

It looks like a lot of our questions are getting answered in the Q&A.

[FBPro]

Maybe I should name my team the Tennessee Mountain Oysters.

[JasonTobiasIV]

San Jose, Ca

Me<--

Unless we are accepting fresno or stockton..

[MIJB#19]

Cthomer, how hard was it to dig up my location as Maassluis, Netherlands?
I mean, it's in every single post made by me...

;)

What worries me a bit is that the older FOFs only covered the North Western part of the world, meaning any area below the equator(sp?) and past the Greenich line are not covered, that includes my hometown...

[Samdari]

Originally posted by Buzzbee
Done.

{EDIT: Although, it would probably be better for you to go up against the likes of me, rather than QuikSand, Subby, and Bee}

Actually, I should not have posted that. I do not care who/where my team is all that much. That post was more about the anal-retentive engineer in me insisting that everything conform to my concept of logic in the world.

Besides, do we really have any idea who is going to be good at this? (Except knowing I will suck) I am thinking that people who have been very good at beating the AI might have trouble against more unpredictable opponents. That said, given that I live so close to Fairfax, I intend on having a bitter rivalry with Bee's team, so want to be in his division.

[Bee]

Originally posted by Samdari
That said, given that I live so close to Fairfax, I intend on having a bitter rivalry with Bee's team, so want to be in his division.

and hopefully it will be totally one sided in my favor. :D

[JasonTobiasIV]

I have logos made by my very own me from the jt ootp league for the following teams..

Indiana Jones
Alabama Black Snakes
Buffalo Wings
Kingston Trio
Puerto Rico Suaves
Miami Vice
Oklahoma City Bombers
Milwaukee Talkies
Minnesota Pop
Kentucky Colonels
Havana Gila Monsters
Denver Johns (not the most creative)
Texas Chainsaws
Chicago Bear-Claws
Mexico City Sombreros (sorry mexican people, I did you little justice with this unintentionally detrimental doozy)
Kansas City Chefs

I will not tolerate anyone plagiarising my genius, so ask me to borrow any of them and you will be allowed to do so legally.

[cthomer5000]

The Havanagila bit is pretty amusing.

[JasonTobiasIV]

Its all good, you are too biased. Wakakaka

[Celeval]

So, uh, is it bad that I have a helmet design, but no name or city yet?

[cuervo72]

Looks nice, Celeval.

Much like Tobias, I am ok with the helmets/teams from my Tequilas dynasty being used if anyone so wishes. Just let me know.

[mckerney]

Originally posted by Neuqua
You know Bug, leagues have gone the completely fictional route even before the CFL right?

:)

Yeah, but the CFL was the first FOF one.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by mckerney
Yeah, but the CFL was the first FOF one.

The first multiplayer FOF one. I'd say there have been numerous single player (and groupthink) fictional leagues.

[mckerney]

Originally posted by cuervo72
The first multiplayer FOF one.

Which is basically what I ment...

[Anthony]

i crap on the CFL.

[cuervo72]

I know I've pimped them before, but for reference here is a compilation of my Tequilas Dynasty helmets (http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Tequilas.html). Most of these have other variations, I just listed the one I prefer from each team for the most part. Just to give some ideas for cities, logos or color combinations.

[SackAttack]

Anybody got any ideas for a logo/uni for a team in Brooklyn? Hell, a mascot would be good, too.

[JasonTobiasIV]

Brooklyn Legends

Brooklyn Bungs

Brooklyn Broilers

Brooklyn Bulldogs

Brooklyn Bison

Brooklyn Bigots

Brooklyn Bums

Brooklyn Loiterers

Brooklyn Bongs

[QuikSand]

I'm leaning toward the Chesapeake Chitterlings, as of now. I like regional team names.

[Samdari]

Originally posted by SackAttack
Anybody got any ideas for a logo/uni for a team in Brooklyn? Hell, a mascot would be good, too.

Kind of has to be the Bridges, no?

[SackAttack]

Well, there've been a few I've been kicking around. Tobias mentioned the Brooklyn Bums, which certainly works, but I'd had reservations about that name. The Bridges works too, but after doing some research, it appears the Empire State Building is also located in Brooklyn. The Brooklyn Empire sounds a little strange at first, but it's been growing on me.

[Fritz]

Coney is in Brooklyn if I recall correctly from my youth.


The Coney Nathans would be a GREAT name.

[KWhit]

Originally posted by SackAttack
Well, there've been a few I've been kicking around. Tobias mentioned the Brooklyn Bums, which certainly works, but I'd had reservations about that name. The Bridges works too, but after doing some research, it appears the Empire State Building is also located in Brooklyn. The Brooklyn Empire sounds a little strange at first, but it's been growing on me.

The Empire State Building is NOT in Brooklyn. It's in Manhattan.

[SackAttack]

Not according to the research I did. Supposedly it's located in Brooklyn, *near* Manhattan, but not physically IN Manhattan.

[KWhit]

Originally posted by SackAttack
Not according to the research I did. Supposedly it's located in Brooklyn, *near* Manhattan, but not physically IN Manhattan.

Where did you do your research?

Anyway, it's wrong. Trust me. It's on 5th Avenue and 34th Street in Manhattan.

[Samdari]

Been there. Its in Manhattan. Really.

EDIT: Does noone here use the internet. Within 30 seconds of reaching their site (http://www.esbnyc.com/) I hit the tourism link which took me a page with the following introductory paragraph, "New York's famous Empire State Building, a New York City Landmark and a National Historic Landmark, soars more than a quarter of a mile into the atmosphere above the heart of Manhattan."

[cuervo72]

Howabout the Brooklyn Bouncers?

[KWhit]

Originally posted by Samdari
Been there. Its in Manhattan. Really.

EDIT: Does noone here use the internet. Within 30 seconds of reaching their site (http://www.esbnyc.com/) I hit the tourism link which took me a page with the following introductory paragraph, "New York's famous Empire State Building, a New York City Landmark and a National Historic Landmark, soars more than a quarter of a mile into the atmosphere above the heart of Manhattan."

When you've lived in New York City for 4 years, you don't need the internet to know that the Empire State Building is in Manhattan.

(I know you weren't talking to me, but I had an irrational impulse to respond anyway).

I'm still interested to know where he got his "research" that said the ESB was in Brooklyn! Not piling on, Sack, I just wish I could see the website or whatever that said it so I could know never to get any information from that source whatsoever!

[SackAttack]

KWhit - I wish I'd bookmarked it, I could link you if I had.

Basically, it was kind of a tiny site ostensibly about Brooklyn's history. I don't think there were even any subpages to it, just the main front page. Shrug.