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TroyF
10-22-2003, 02:47 PM
The link (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=20&u=/ap/20031022/ap_on_re_us/video_game_lawsuit_1)

The text:


Parents Sue Over Game Linked to Shooting
Wed Oct 22, 3:56 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!


By DUNCAN MANSFIELD, Associated Press Writer

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - A $246 million lawsuit was filed against the designer, marketer and a retailer of the video game series "Grand Theft Auto" by the families of two people shot by teenagers apparently inspired by the game.



The suit claims marketer Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc., designers Take-Two Interactive Software and Rockstar Games, and Wal-Mart, are liable for $46 million in compensatory damages and $200 million in punitive damages.


Aaron Hamel, 45, a registered nurse, was killed and Kimberly Bede, 19, of Moneta, Va., was seriously wounded when their cars were hit June 25 by .22-caliber bullets as they passed through the Great Smoky Mountains.


Stepbrothers William Buckner, 16, and Joshua Buckner, 14, of Newport, were sentenced in August to an indefinite term in state custody after pleading guilty in juvenile court to reckless homicide, endangerment and assault.


The boys told investigators they got the rifles from a locked room in their home and decided to randomly shoot at tractor-trailer rigs, just like in the video game "Grand Theft Auto III."


In a suit filed Monday in Cocke County Circuit Court on behalf of the victims, Miami lawyer Jack Thompson and local lawyer Richard Talley alleged the game "inspires and trains players to shoot at vehicles and persons."


"These kids simply decided to take the thrill of that game out to Interstate 40 and started pointing at cars," Thompson said in a telephone interview Tuesday.


Thompson, who said he sent letters to Sony and Wal-Mart to drop the game before the shootings, said, "It's not like this is coming out of the blue, they chose to ignore this danger."


San Mateo, Calif.-based Sony and Bentonville, Ark.-based Wal-Mart did not return calls for comment Tuesday. The lawsuit alleges the retail giant sold the game to the Buckners about a year before the shootings.


Douglas Lowenstein, president of the industry Entertainment Software Association, called the shootings "an unspeakable tragedy" but said blaming a game played by millions for the boys' actions was "misguided and counterproductive."


"There is no credible evidence that violent games lead to violent behavior," he said. "While video games may provide a simple excuse for the teenagers involved in this incident, responsibility for violent acts belongs to those who commit them."


Thompson has made similar claims in the past and lost, notably a $33 million lawsuit against video game makers stemming from the 1997 school shooting near Paducah, Ky., by a 14-year-old boy.


The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites) ruled in the case last year that it was "simply to far a leap from shooting characters on a video screen to shooting people in a classroom."

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Talley alleged the game "inspires and trains players to shoot at vehicles and persons."

Inspires and trains? Ummm. . . OK.

TroyF

KWhit
10-22-2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by TroyF


Talley alleged the game "inspires and trains players to shoot at vehicles and persons."

Inspires and trains? Ummm. . . OK.

TroyF

This gave me an idea. We should try to get an FOFC expansion franchise for the NFL, because playing FOF all the time inspires and trains us to be professional football players.

Who's with me?

Balldog
10-22-2003, 02:53 PM
God forbid their parents take any responsibility.

damnMikeBrown
10-22-2003, 02:53 PM
I want to be a salary cap coordinator and assistant in player personel evaluation & aquisition.

Ksyrup
10-22-2003, 03:01 PM
I know of Jack Thompson. He is ... different. He is a morals crusader. Just a week or so ago, he sent an email to all of the atttorneys in our firm chastizing us because we represent a company that owns a radio station in Miami that has talk show hosts who allegedly violated FCC decency standards. Now, from the perspective of the attorneys, whether the client has violated the FCC or not is really irrelevant. An attorney typically does not hold his fellow attorney's client's behavior against him. That's considered poor form in this "sport."

From the language of his email, he didn't quite sound like he was all there, quite frankly.

Ksyrup
10-22-2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by TroyF
The boys told investigators they got the rifles from a locked room in their home...

I don't know about you, but this is about where I stopped reading.

FBPro
10-22-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Balldog
God forbid their parents take any responsibility.


:eek:

Maple Leafs
10-22-2003, 03:11 PM
To steal someone else's joke: Think about it. If video games affected how a kid turned out, all those 20-somethings who grew up playing Pacman would be spending their leisure time running around dark rooms with flashing lights, munching as many little pills as they could find.

FBPro
10-22-2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Balldog
God forbid their parents take any responsibility.


:eek:

sterlingice
10-22-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Maple Leafs
To steal someone else's joke: Think about it. If video games affected how a kid turned out, all those 20-somethings who grew up playing Pacman would be spending their leisure time running around dark rooms with flashing lights, munching as many little pills as they could find.

You've seen all the ads for 20-nothings (aka Gen X) on tv with the message "it's trendy, so you should buy it" for anything from batteries to cars. It pains me that this is the disposable income that advertisers are targeting now- I hate the fact that the next 20 years are going to have car commercials with only music and retards dancing instead of actually telling me why I should buy a car or soft drink or whatever.

And now tell me that they don't spend all of their leisure time running around in dark rooms with flashing lights munching pills...

SI

IMetTrentGreen
10-22-2003, 04:59 PM
"To steal someone else's joke: Think about it. If video games affected how a kid turned out, all those 20-somethings who grew up playing Pacman would be spending their leisure time running around dark rooms with flashing lights, munching as many little pills as they could find."

at least steal a joke that got a laugh

CamEdwards
10-22-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Maple Leafs
To steal someone else's joke: Think about it. If video games affected how a kid turned out, all those 20-somethings who grew up playing Pacman would be spending their leisure time running around dark rooms with flashing lights, munching as many little pills as they could find.

well, we have seen obesity on the rise....

FWIW, these parents are just as asshatted as those who sued Judas Priest because their sons tried to commit suicide. Quit blaming society...

blame your damn kids.

GrantDawg
10-22-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by CamEdwards
well, we have seen obesity on the rise....

FWIW, these parents are just as asshatted as those who sued Judas Priest because their sons tried to commit suicide. Quit blaming society...

blame your damn kids.

I think it is the media. Specifically talk radio.

TroyF
10-22-2003, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by GrantDawg
I think it is the media. Specifically talk radio.

Those announcers in OKC really made me want to shoot people when I was in Oklahoma. Wasn't the morning guys though. That Mad Al guy on sportstalk in the afternoon was horrible.

TroyF

CamEdwards
10-22-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by GrantDawg
I think it is the media. Specifically talk radio.

I'LL KILL YOU!!!!! :mad:

Originally posted by TroyF
Those announcers in OKC really made me want to shoot people when I was in Oklahoma. Wasn't the morning guys though. That Mad Al guy on sportstalk in the afternoon was horrible.

Al Eschbach? He's a legend, but he's an aquired taste. Far and away I'd rate Mike Steely the best of the bunch. Damn shame he's on opposite me. :)

TroyF
10-22-2003, 05:55 PM
[i]Al Eschbach? He's a legend, but he's an aquired taste. Far and away I'd rate Mike Steely the best of the bunch. Damn shame he's on opposite me. :)


Yes, he's an aquired taste. I've met the guy. He seems friendly enough. He just got on my nerves everytime I listened to him. I always thought Traber was pretty decent.

I only called into one of the shows once. I told the guy that the Broncos/Packers Super Bowl would go down to the final play and that Denver would be able to wear out Gilbert Brown by running to the outside all game. He pretty much laughed at me and said Denver had no business being in the Super Bowl and would lose by 3 TD's. Oops.

I can't remember whose show I called. It wasn't Al. Some morning guy. He ate a lot of crow that Monday morning, I didn't need to call in to rub it in. :)

TroyF

sianews
10-22-2003, 07:20 PM
All I know is that I just bought this game this week and haven't been so addicted to a product since FOF2 :)!

illinifan999
10-22-2003, 07:38 PM
So freakin stupid. Hell I played both versions and I'm fine.

Except for the nightmares. Their soooo real.

CamEdwards
10-22-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by illinifan999
So freakin stupid. Hell I played both versions and I'm fine.

Except for the nightmares. Their soooo real.

well, that and the fact that you keep offing hookers.

tucker342
10-22-2003, 11:40 PM
I play GTA all the time and I'm fine.... well, besides the times where I go out and blow up cars with missile launchers... but besides that I turned out okay:D

Bonegavel
10-22-2003, 11:52 PM
If this is the standard, any church that espouses the Bible should be sued for Zillions. I don't think the amount of people killed by others inspired by this book can be calculated.

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

CAsterling
10-23-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Bonegavel
If this is the standard, any church that espouses the Bible should be sued for Zillions. I don't think the amount of people killed by others inspired by this book can be calculated.

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Can't resist....

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.:D :D

mckerney
10-23-2003, 05:33 PM
Come on. Barbie has a dream car but you don't see every 8 year old girl driving.

Balldog
10-23-2003, 05:39 PM
This makes me want the GTA-Double Pack even more, I miss these games.