FOFCL: List your city (if fictional is decided)

[HornedFrog Purple]

This is to help with alignments and stuff in case we go that route with a fictional league.

I would like my team in Fort Worth (Texas). If Senator wants Fort Worth, I will take Waco.

[cthomer5000]

North Plainfield, New Jersey

edit: If we can somehow edit the starting cities, I would actually like one of the New Jersey markets (Newark?), while still calling it North Plainfield.

[Darkiller]

Paris, France (If possible...)
if not : San Francisco !

[TroyF]

I'll take Stillwater, OK. If that doesn't work for the divisions or puts me in an impossible population situation, I'll go with Fort Collins, CO. (I'd pick Denver, but I'd like to have a gap between Bucc and my team. We can both compete for the ticket dollars of the Denver crowd)

TroyF

[Ben E Lou]

Well, that depends on how things work. I'd like good ol' Tucker, GA, if it doesn't hurt me financially to do so.

[Buzzbee]

I wonder if we'll be able to edit the city data. If not, teams located in larger cities with little competition may have an advantage. I could see Dallas, Denver, St. Louis, and possibly Chicago having a distinct advantage over places like Boston, Philly, Pittsburg, and DC.

Would be interesting to set all the city data equal so that no team has a financial advantage.

[Bee]

Fairfax, VA

[Samdari]

Springfield, VA. Is it too early to trash talk the losers from Fairfax?

[GrantDawg]

We have so many "ifs" going on right now. How 'bout we set up some voting on what we prefer so that we can have a solid idea of what is going on?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
We have so many "ifs" going on right now. How 'bout we set up some voting on what we prefer so that we can have a solid idea of what is going on? Well, until we know all the details of how multiplayer works, we might want to wait on some of those decisions.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Yes... I also suggest that instead of a poll, each person types their response. I will be happy to tab them up, this prevents a crooked ballot.

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
Yes... I also suggest that instead of a poll, each person types their response. I will be happy to tab them up, this prevents a crooked ballot.

I agree. I also think we ought to have like a ranking sytem vote instead of just vote for one.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Should we start with the very basic?

Fictional team names or actual NFL team names.

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
Should we start with the very basic?

Fictional team names or actual NFL team names.

I think it needs to start with rosters. If we are sticking with actual team rosters, I think the other decision would be affected.

[HornedFrog Purple]

ok then.. ill start it up.

[SackAttack]

Brooklyn, NY or Columbia, MO.

[mckerney]

I will take the city refered to as Minnesota

[Senator]

I am going to be the Washington Senators, so HFP can have Fort Worth. Besides, you called it first.

[Senator]

Strike that.

I will be San Antonio then. I want to be in the same division as HFP so we can share the play sheet.

[Kodos]

Depending on other factors, I would like to put my team in Rochester, New York. My real hometown.

[Chief Rum]

Don't know if this is already decided further up in this forum, but if not, I would like to see a team return to Anaheim. And I would want to control that team, if possible.

CR

[Vince]

San Luis Obispo, CA

[Vegas Vic]

I'm all for whatever you guys decide is the best way to go with the cities, but I'd like to toss out some food for thought. There will inevitably be some turnover with the franchises, and it could be problematic finding replacement GM's to identify with the fictional cities. It would probably be more appealing for someone from Gresham, Oregon to take over the New Orleans Saints instead of taking over the Biloxi Boll Weevils.

I'd like to open this topic for discussion -- pros and cons -- and let's see if we can reach a consensus on this issue.

[MIJB#19]

I'd like to play in Maassluis, Netherlands.
If relocating due to FOF's coordinates does not work, It be happy to land in the Netherlands Antilles.
Or if I have to take a city already in the game, I wouldn't mind being on a team located in some city that can be linked with my country, like New York.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Vegas Vic
I'm all for whatever you guys decide is the best way to go with the cities, but I'd like to toss out some food for thought. There will inevitably be some turnover with the franchises, and it could be problematic finding replacement GM's to identify with the fictional cities. It would probably be more appealing for someone from Gresham, Oregon to take over the New Orleans Saints instead of taking over the Biloxi Boll Weevils.

I'd like to open this topic for discussion -- pros and cons -- and let's see if we can reach a consensus on this issue.

But if location is largely superficial, i.e. we get into the file and change the name and not the coordinates (though I'm guessing someone will write a utility to do that, too) we can just rename the city in the cities file. I don't know if that would be that big a problem, as long as that turnover isn't constant. As for geographic alignment, I don't know if that should really be much of a concern anyhow. If there's an outlier here or there, so be it. The NFL still has its St. Louis' and Dallas' of the world.

[Daimyo]

If we're stuck with real NFL city names I'll take Indianapolis and figure out a nickname later. If we can edit the city names I'd like to change it to Columbus (IN).

[cthomer5000]

updated 10/24 10:47 eastern

<font face=courier>
Player First Choice Second

Bee Fairfax, VA
Blackadar Boulder, CO
Chief Rum Anaheim, CA
cthomer5000 North Plainfield, NJ
Daimyo Indianapolis, IN
Darkiller Paris, France San Francisco, CA
GrantDawg Covington, GA
HornedFrogPurple Fort Worth, TX Waco, TX
Kodos Rochester, NY
mckerney Minnesota
MIJB#19 Maassluis, Netherlands New York City
SackAttack Brooklyn, NY Columbia, MO
Samdari Springfield, VA
Senator San Antonio, TX
SkyDog Tucker, GA
TroyF Stillwater, OK Fort Collins, CO
Vince San Luis Obispo, CA
</font>

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by Vegas Vic
I'm all for whatever you guys decide is the best way to go with the cities, but I'd like to toss out some food for thought. There will inevitably be some turnover with the franchises, and it could be problematic finding replacement GM's to identify with the fictional cities. It would probably be more appealing for someone from Gresham, Oregon to take over the New Orleans Saints instead of taking over the Biloxi Boll Weevils.

I'd like to open this topic for discussion -- pros and cons -- and let's see if we can reach a consensus on this issue.


I think you make some very good points and raise some issues:

How easy will it to be for us to really change the starting cities? Jim has already stated this is not a game feature, so we'd need a 3rd party program in order to do this.

Do we really want to deal with finances?


As the game stands we can change our starting cities in a completely cosmetic fashion, by just changing the city names to reflect where we want our teams to be stationed. While there will be some strange weather conditions at times, I think we all have the imagination to overcome minor issues like that. Therefore, we can appear to have 4 teams stationed in the Atlanta Metro area, but they'll really each be playing in the markets of Carolina, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, and not killing each other financially.

This would also be favorable for when a new owner takes over a team. They can easily "move" the Princeton Snobs to become the Los Angeles Smog. That way we don't have to worry about someone taking over a team they're not really interested in, they'll have the chance to move them (again, in a completely cosmetic way).

I don't think any of us will care if we're raking in the largest profit as long as we're going 3-13 every year. The spirit of this multi-player league is to compete on the football field, not to compare our bottom lines. For these reasons, I'm in favor of us ignoring the bottom line finances.

I do however think we should create some sort of cap outside the game to determine coach and scouting hirings. Otherwise, what's to stop any of us from paying 100 million a year to ensure we bring in the best coach?

[GrantDawg]

Jim said there would already be a limit on what you can spend on coaches, so that is there. I don't see any reason for us to concetrate on the bottom line. This should be about the teams and what happens on the field.

[MrIllini]

I got Peoria, IL

[Vince]

cthomer brought up a good point that was what I based my opinion that we start with fictional cities on. I'm assuming we're going to leave the original economic options as is, so my San Luis Obispo Burn will really be playing in a pre-established NFL market, not really San Luis Obispo. Like cthomer said, if this is the case, we can easily 'move' a franchise if a new owner takes over.

I agree with GrantDawg and cthomer in that I think most of us are more worried about on-the-field performance than the bottom line.

[Blackadar]

Real teams: Pittsburgh, PA

Fictional teams: Boulder, CO

[GrantDawg]

I guess I'll go with Covington, Ga.

The Covington Newts. Who is making the helmets and logos? I can't stand doing that junk.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I guess I'll go with Covington, Ga.

The Covington Newts. Who is making the helmets and logos? I can't stand doing that junk.

You don't really want Newt on a helmet.....do you?

[Senator]

helmet

http://www.cflfb.com/data/cfl/images/VOLS_HELMET.jpg



Banner

http://www.cflfb.com/data/cfl/images/VOLS_BANNER.jpg

[KWhit]

Conyers, GA.

Trying to think of a good team name now.

Actually, there is a lady who lives in Conyers who thinks she can see the Virgin Mary.

So I thought about naming my team the Conyers Marys, but I may reconsider.

For the logo I'd probably use the picture that's in the "Ummmm....Skydog" thread.

[Ben E Lou]

http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tuck.gif
http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/tigers.gif

Nice to have 'em ready made. I have no creativity whatsoever.

[cuervo72]

SD, I'm surprised they don't use the logo on the helmet - it's a really cool logo.

As I stated in another thread, I'm available for making helmets, I've already done a load of them for that other league, and a couple for us here.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by cuervo72
SD, I'm surprised they don't use the logo on the helmet - it's a really cool logo.

As I stated in another thread, I'm available for making helmets, I've already done a load of them for that other league, and a couple for us here. Could you change the colors of the logo to match the colors of the helmet? I like the helmet colors better.

[cthomer5000]

<font size=3>North Plainfield Plague</font>

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/North_Plainfield/North-Plainfield-Plague-18.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~j.hoag/logos/plague_envy.jpg

and our throwback helmet:

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/North_Plainfield/North-Plainfield-Plague-13.jpg

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Could you change the colors of the logo to match the colors of the helmet? I like the helmet colors better.

In general, or to place it on the helmet? I should be able to do either.

Senator, if I may:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/San-Antonio-Volunteers.jpg

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by cuervo72
In general, or to place it on the helmet? I should be able to do either. Both.

[cuervo72]

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Tucker-Tigers.jpg

[cuervo72]

And the logo.

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by cuervo72
You don't really want Newt on a helmet.....do you?

I need a Newt in the logo, but I'd rather have an "Old School" helmet. No logo needed.

Red and Black are my favorite team colors, but I don't think it fits the "Newts." Probably colors close to the Oregon Ducks, with the green being prominent.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I need a Newt in the logo, but I'd rather have an "Old School" helmet. No logo needed.

Red and Black are my favorite team colors, but I don't think it fits the "Newts." Probably colors close to the Oregon Ducks, with the green being prominent.

So maybe "Newts" in text on the helmet then, or completely blank?

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by cuervo72
So maybe "Newts" in text on the helmet then, or completely blank?

Maybe a "C" or blank with a stripe. Don't put "Newts" on it. :)

[Ben E Lou]

cuervo:

Looks great. One small request, if it isn't too much trouble, can the color (in both) be less reddish and more maroonish? Something along the lines of this color:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/prospectgallery.asp?pr_key=16762&Photo=1

[GrantDawg]

Actually, the more I look at it I think the Oregon Duck helmet with a "C" instead of an "O" would be perfect.

[KWhit]

GD,

Why the Newts? Is it a Monty Python reference, or do you really like those Geico commercials*?



* Yes, I know it isn't a newt in the Geico commercials.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by SkyDog
cuervo:

Looks great. One small request, if it isn't too much trouble, can you change the logo to something along the lines of this photo:
http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/mizuke/bigmanphoto.jpg


Is this really appropriate?

[Subby]

Originally posted by cthomer5000
Is this really appropriate?
Only in the International House of Prison Football...

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by SkyDog
cuervo:

Looks great. One small request, if it isn't too much trouble, can the color (in both) be less reddish and more maroonish? Something along the lines of this color:
http://rivals100.rivals.com/prospectgallery.asp?pr_key=16762&Photo=1

Doesn't like to smile, does he? :D I updated the helmet above, let me know if the logo is ok.

[cuervo72]

The Covington Newts.
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Covington-Newts.jpg

edit: fixed.

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by cuervo72
The Conyers Newts.
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Conyers-Newts.jpg

Looks good, but it is the Covington Newts. KWhit is from the neighboring town of Conyers.

[cuervo72]

D'oh!

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by KWhit
GD,

Why the Newts? Is it a Monty Python reference, or do you really like those Geico commercials*?



* Yes, I know it isn't a newt in the Geico commercials.

I could say both to yes (:)), but instead think about what county Covington is in.

[GrantDawg]

Thank you by the way, cuervo72. It looks great.

[cuervo72]

You're welcome.

[Senator]

I like my changes as well. thanks

[HornedFrog Purple]

cuervo (or anyone) if you have some time whenever could you change the helmet color to purple with a lime-green facemask in this attachment? Thanks in advance.

Oh its Fort Worth Fury by the way.

[KWhit]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I could say both to yes (:)), but instead think about what county Covington is in.

Duh! I swear I'm such a dope sometimes.

Note: If my wife were a member here she'd reply, "Sometimes?"



FYI, for those of you who are Georgia-Geographically-Challenged, Covington is in Newton County.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Doesn't like to smile, does he? :D I updated the helmet above, let me know if the logo is ok. Looks GREAT! Thanks a ton!

--Ben

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by KWhit
Duh! I swear I'm such a dope sometimes.

Note: If my wife were a member here she'd reply, "Sometimes?"



FYI, for those of you who are Georgia-Geographically-Challenged, Covington is in Newton County.

It was a leap that I don't think most would have made without a hint.

[Senator]

Oh its Fort Worth Fury by the way.


If it flies - it dies.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Senator
If it flies - it dies.

Bucc's team motto? :D

[HornedFrog Purple]

If my quarterback intentionally throws a forward pass the only flying you will see is his teeth.

[Senator]

9 man front - here we come!

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
cuervo (or anyone) if you have some time whenever could you change the helmet color to purple with a lime-green facemask in this attachment? Thanks in advance.

Oh its Fort Worth Fury by the way.

Something like this, or are the colors off?

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fort-Worth-Fury.jpg

[HornedFrog Purple]

ok that didnt work (not your fault was mine)

I was looking for a darker purple like this (in attachment):

[Buzzbee]

Cuervo - Maybe a green outline on the bird, to match the facemask. Or possibly yellow. Or not.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Originally posted by Senator
9 man front - here we come!

I dunno why we are talking smack... no one will attend our battle for 3rd place.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Something like this, or are the colors off?

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fort-Worth-Fury.jpg


mmmmmm. eggplant.

[cuervo72]

Ok, I'll darken the purple. I did also attempt to make the outline green, but wasn't having the best results. I'll try it again though. Is the facemask about right?

[Senator]

I dunno why we are talking smack... no one will attend our battle for 3rd place.


Sadly sir, it is all the smack I got. :(

[Vince]

Since cuervo was nice enough to already put together a helmet for my team, I thought I'd let you guys all see it. I'm still trying to figure out which color scheme I like best though...

Here are the two helmets for the San Luis Obispo Burn:

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/SLO-Burn-02.jpg

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/SLO-Burn-01.jpg

[cthomer5000]

personally, I think the white looks better. Not enough white helmets these days. It also makes the whole logo stand out a bit more.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Ok, I'll darken the purple. I did also attempt to make the outline green, but wasn't having the best results. I'll try it again though. Is the facemask about right?

Yes the facemask color is fine.

If the darker purple still doesnt highlight the logo, then try and switch the green from the facemask to the helmet, purpleize the facemask and add a purple stripe up top on the helmet.

If that doesnt work, then use white helmet, purple facemask, purple stripe.

I'm still at work for another 32 hours else I would work on it with something besides Paint. :( I appreciate you doing it!

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by SkyDog
Looks GREAT! Thanks a ton!

--Ben

A belated you're welcome. Anytime. You provided a great logo, so it was pretty easy.

Like I've said before, I like doing this, it lets me use my creative side. Heck, I've already outfitted half of that other league :)

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
Yes the facemask color is fine.

If the darker purple still doesnt highlight the logo, then try and switch the green from the facemask to the helmet, purpleize the facemask and add a purple stripe up top on the helmet.

If that doesnt work, then use white helmet, purple facemask, purple stripe.

I'm still at work for another 32 hours else I would work on it with something besides Paint. :( I appreciate you doing it!

Yikes....that's a long time to be at work. I've reworked the logo and this time I've been more careful with the bird. I clipped it and changed colors separate form the helmet, making the highlights of the bird green. I think it works that way, but can try the other ways if necessary. I have to say though that a whole helmet in that green color...well, that would be bold. I like bold, but that would be REALLY bold :)

I loaded to the same place as before, but just to post it again:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fort-Worth-Fury.jpg

[Buccaneer]

If I can have a non-real city, I pick Syracuse. If not, then San Diego.

[Samdari]

Syracuse is not real? Crap, I have some really bizarre memories then.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Yikes....that's a long time to be at work. I've reworked the logo and this time I've been more careful with the bird. I clipped it and changed colors separate form the helmet, making the highlights of the bird green. I think it works that way, but can try the other ways if necessary. I have to say though that a whole helmet in that green color...well, that would be bold. I like bold, but that would be REALLY bold :)

I loaded to the same place as before, but just to post it again:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fort-Worth-Fury.jpg

Perfect! Thanks a ton!

[Fritz]

all you pansies with the plastic helmets.

My boys will be in leather, and that is only because of the league office.

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by Fritz
all you pansies with the plastic helmets.

My boys will be in leather, and that is only because of the league office.


Be honest, your boys are going to be in leather while in your office.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
Be honest, your boys are going to be in leather while in your office.

Full point!

[Vince]

Eh, strong effort...but the French judge thought the bold face font was a little too much, so he gets a 0.92.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
Be honest, your boys are going to be in leather while in your office.

I guess it takes a preracher to know something about having boys in your office.

Sure Grant, its tutoring.

[KWhit]

Originally posted by Fritz
I guess it takes a preracher to know something about having boys in your office.

Sure Grant, its tutoring.

The wrath of God will soon be upon thee.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by KWhit
The wrath of God will soon be upon thee.

God lives in my pants.

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by Vince
San Luis Obispo Burn

Love the wordplay! Very nice.

[Buccaneer]

I thought the choice was between a city with an actual NFL team (real) vs. a city without one (not-real)?

[cuervo72]

At the moment, I am leaning towards going with the Frederick Red Menace.

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Frederick-Red-Menace.jpg

[Bee]

Originally posted by cuervo72
At the moment, I am leaning towards going with the Frederick Red Menace.



On a side note, I was in Frederick this weekend at a wedding.

Nice helmets BTW.

B

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Bee
On a side note, I was in Frederick this weekend at a wedding.

Nice helmets BTW.

B

Cool. Where in particular?

And thanks.

[Bee]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Cool. Where in particular?

And thanks.

The Tea Room at Gimball (sp?) Park. The wedding was very small (like 35-40 ppl), but the caviar was pretty good. :D

[Celeval]

Originally posted by cuervo72
At the moment, I am leaning towards going with the Frederick Red Menace.


See, I see this helmet and instead of seeing FRM, I see RTFM. Does that make me a geek?

Kevin

[Buccaneer]

cuervo, just grab the old school Orangemen helmet for me.

[cuervo72]

Hope this is the right vintage.

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Bucc-Orangemen.jpg

[Fritz]

Originally posted by cuervo72
At the moment, I am leaning towards going with the Frederick Red Menace.

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Frederick-Red-Menace.jpg

so I did a search for red menace and came up with this

http://images.burningman.com/index.cgi?image=699&q_photog=steve


great team there curevo

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Fritz
so I did a search for red menace and came up with this

http://images.burningman.com/index.cgi?image=699&q_photog=steve

great team there curevo

The sad thing is, I don't even need to look at that photo to know what it is....I ran across it in my google search too (didn't bother to click on the thumb though).

Note that I said leaning towards....not 100% yet. But for the record, the name stems from when my son was 2 and was a bit more unruly than he is now (he, like my wife, is a redhead).

[Fritz]

With that name I see a more scarlet color and russian/commie art style logo. Google Images Lenin and I think you will see the style on the first page. Bold, Epic, easy to print...

[cuervo72]

You know, I hadn't even thought of that aspect of the nickname until I started searching. I think I know which image you're thinking of - red/black with the hammer & sickle on his forhead. Sharp image actually. Of course it is Lenin...

Maybe I'll think of another nickname with a less sinister connotation.

FWIW, the other way I thought of going involved a cool looking spider image - google image "menace", page 6.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by cuervo72
You know, I hadn't even thought of that aspect of the nickname until I started searching. I think I know which image you're thinking of - red/black with the hammer & sickle on his forhead. Sharp image actually. Of course it is Lenin...

Maybe I'll think of another nickname with a less sinister connotation.


that was only the sytle I wanted you to see. A search of Russian war propaganda should give you all sorts of bold images to work with.

[Fritz]

dola, a red headed Dennis sould have appeal.

[cuervo72]

I don't know if Frederick is ready for a Communist team (St. Pete, maybe). I wonder if I can change the color of my menace...

Dennis did occur to me. Too damn annoying.

[albionmoonlight]

Hmmm. . . . I've been debating where to put my team . . .

I spent a year in Fairbanks, AK. They could use a professional football team, for sure. I think that they win out.

Let's make the Fairbanks Northstars.

curevo--if you do not mind working some of your magic. . . I have attached an image that (hopefully) will look good on the helmet. If you can make the helmet background fit the background of the logo, it should not look too bad. Thanks in advance.

[cuervo72]

I should be able to do that, ABM. Is it ok if I make the blue a little darker than that though?

[albionmoonlight]

Do whatever you need with the blue background.

[cuervo72]

Fairbanks Northstars:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fairbanks-Northstars.jpg

[albionmoonlight]

:D

Thanks

[KWhit]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Fairbanks Northstars:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fairbanks-Northstars.jpg

I really like the looks of that helmet. Very unique.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by albionmoonlight
:D

Thanks
You're welcome.

[cuervo72]

Just for reference, I've compiled what I have so far for helmets into a table here (http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/IHOF.html) for the time being. They are in no real order.

[Bee]

I need to find a logo for the Fairfax Fizz... maybe a bottle of bubbly? :D

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Bee
I need to find a logo for the Fairfax Fizz... maybe a bottle of bubbly? :D

I was thinking Alka-Seltzer...

edit: or http://www.physics.ubc.ca/~engphys/images/Fizz.GIF

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Just for reference, I've compiled what I have so far for helmets into a table here (http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/IHOF.html) for the time being. They are in no real order.

Cool, great stuff.

[Kodos]

Those helmets look cool. If I knew for sure what city I was getting, it'd help me settle on a team name. If I get Rigel IV, the nickname will be Rigel IV Marauders.

[Bee]

Originally posted by cuervo72
I was thinking Alka-Seltzer...

edit: or http://www.physics.ubc.ca/~engphys/images/Fizz.GIF

Oh...that's nice! Works for me. :D

[Vince]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Just for reference, I've compiled what I have so far for helmets into a table here (http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/IHOF.html) for the time being. They are in no real order.

Great stuff Cuervo...and the white one is the helmet I want to go with. Thanks buddy :)

And I'm the unique one with the backwards helmet :)

[Celeval]

Thanks to Alan T for help with the name...


... the Georgia Gridlock.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Vince
Great stuff Cuervo...and the white one is the helmet I want to go with. Thanks buddy :)

And I'm the unique one with the backwards helmet :)

I like the white too. Yeah, I have to fix the backward helmet. I did all of my dynasty helmets pointing to the left, but then I believe it was mckerney wanted me to do his Boxcars helmet to the right, so i started doing all of them that way, and did yours that way as well. Then it occurred to me that cthomers was facing to the left, so I figured any I did for the other league could be to the right (except Jeeber's, which was the first), and ones for the IHOF would be to the left. So I need to flip yours (which would be easy without the text :) )!

[cuervo72]

Ok, with a little artistic direction I've reworked the Red Menace helmet:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Frederick-Red-Menace-05.jpg

I also have another design I was working on using a Viking that I thought looks pretty good:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Frederick-Red-Menace-06.jpg

If anyone is interested in using it, I can tweak the colors (there are a couple of green schemes I'm thinking of trying).

[Bee]

I don't understand what a coal miner has to do with the Red Menace? ;)

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Bee
I don't understand what a coal miner has to do with the Red Menace? ;)

Sigh....

edit: I meant to ask, what colors are you thinking of for the Whi...I mean, Fizz?

[Bee]

Blue and silver. Can you make the red > blue and the gold > silver?

[cuervo72]

Sure can. I have a better atom image that I can use too, not that it will even show up at that size :)

[cuervo72]

Fairfax Fizz:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fairfax-Fizz.jpg

[Bee]

Hey cuervo, can you make that a little darker blue and less purple?

Thanks btw. It looks great.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Bee
Hey cuervo, can you make that a little darker blue and less purple?

Thanks btw. It looks great.

Sure. I must be somewhat colorblind, because this is the second request I've gotten to make something less purple, when it looks blue to me :) That will be no problem though, I'll post it in place above.

(hmm, just looked at the hex code for the blue, which is 01027D; very little red or green, so it SHOULD be blue. Maybe it's my shadowing. But I'll still darken it.)

edit: done.

[cuervo72]

Oh, BTW....those aren't pick-axes my guys have, they're hand-held atom smashers.... :D

[Bee]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Oh, BTW....those aren't pick-axes my guys have, they're hand-held atom smashers.... :D

That's good because your coal miners will need all the help they can get. :D

[Fritz]

the fairfaz fizz is easily the gayest thing in the international house.

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by Fritz
the fairfaz fizz is easily the gayest thing in the international house.

The Fairfax Jizz.

[Bee]

Hmm....maybe a pink helmet would be better...

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Fritz
the fairfaz fizz is easily the gayest thing in the international house.

Any less gay (definitely less 70's)?
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fairfax-Fizz-02.jpg

Someone really should be the Flamingos :cool:

[Bee]

That's getting better. Maybe change up the atom symbol (it kind of looks like a flower or something).

[Fritz]

Oh, either helmet looks good. I prefer the first one though.

Fairfax is just the gayest thing in the International House. The only way it could be gayer is if we used real players and Jeff Garcia was their QB.

[Samdari]

Can I change my vote on player pool from "fictional" to "fictional, but with the Fairfax QB named Jeff Garcia"?

[Bee]

Fritz is just excited about road games in Fairfax. ;)

[Fritz]

I am just excited about trips to Good Guys and the 9:30.

[cuervo72]

Well, how about a slightly different direction:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Fairfax-Fizz-03.jpg

[Fritz]

looks good.

btw, where are your blanks?

[cthomer5000]

Originally posted by Fritz
looks good.

btw, where are your blanks?

The Jizz do not shoot blanks, don't insult their manhood any further.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Ok, with a little artistic direction I've reworked the Snow White helmet:
http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Frederick-Red-Menace-05.jpg


Where are the other 4 dwarves?

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Fritz
looks good.

btw, where are your blanks?

Thanks.

By blanks do you mean blank helmets? Looks like you found the template I posted, and helmets I use for base color schemes are at http://www.misterhabs.com/helmets.htm but I can't find all color combos. But they're good enough to work with. Stripes give me some trouble, and there were some larger helmets at theSLE.com that I grabbed before they shutdown.

Originally posted by Fritz
Where are the other 4 dwarves?
Ha!

...you know, I was just thinking I should have found boatmen, I could have had a built-in theme song.

[Anthony]

how do i post the image of the helmets like all the other ones in this thread. all i know how to do is this:

The Official Astoria Heroes Logo

[Fritz]

Originally posted by cuervo72
...you know, I was just thinking I should have found boatmen, I could have had a built-in theme song.

One of miller's best.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Fritz
One of miller's best.

You know, I don't think I've ever heard his version of it? I have the Popular Recordings (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002WDC/104-0367421-5840745?v=glance) set and it's not on there. Maybe its time to pick up something with some of his other stuff.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
how do i post the image of the helmets like all the other ones in this thread. all i know how to do is this:

The Official Astoria Heroes Logo


HA, if you post the logo by itself I can clean up your helmet for you. Are those stripes red and blue?

[Anthony]

i don't know how to post the image by itself. i don't have it uploaded to a website or anything. don't know how to do it.

yes, those stripes are blue and red. one big solid red bar in the middle flanked by a thinner blue stripe on either side. i kinda wanted the hero on the helmet (the flying hero) to be a generic hero, not specifically Superman. but that pose was the EXACT pose i wanted so i went with that. when i get better with this i want to have a football tucked into the hero's arm. now that's a logo.

[Anthony]

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/attachment.php?postid=274397

edit: just don't know how to do it. :mad:

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
i don't know how to post the image by itself. i don't have it uploaded to a website or anything. don't know how to do it.

yes, those stripes are blue and red. one big solid red bar in the middle flanked by a thinner blue stripe on either side. i kinda wanted the hero on the helmet (the flying hero) to be a generic hero, not specifically Superman. but that pose was the EXACT pose i wanted so i went with that. when i get better with this i want to have a football tucked into the hero's arm. now that's a logo.

I had just wondered where you got the image from, if you have the url for the original I could grab it, but cutting it out of the helmet you posted should be good enough, your version is pretty large and I would need to shrink it anyhow. I can make the hero more generic by getting rid of the Superman logo. I'll see what I can do about a football :)

Funny, the reason why I stumbled upon that problematic Superfriends site was that I was looking for the Green Lantern logo...

[Anthony]

i found it in some superman site. i searched through a lot looking for that exact pose. i copied the actual image, pasted in Paint and cut out the Superman image. i'm working on our team uni's right now.

[Fritz]

is thiswhat you were looking for?
<img src="http://www.innexile.com/album/superhero.jpg">

[Fritz]

okay, not fucking with you

this image would work well and not be hard to modify to include a football.

<img src="http://www.unomaha.edu/~wwwmath/WeekProblem/superhero.gif">

[Anthony]

we're pleased to unveil the protoypes for the 2003 Astoria Heroes uniforms.

the one on the left is our home uniform, the one on the right is our road uniform. the home uni's have the exact team colors, while the road uni's have the mock-ups for what we want to do (the blue on the road jersey's are a lighter blue than what we intend to use). we want the superman "shield", but instead of the "S" we'll be using numbers. you'll see the 2 red stripes on the jerseys, well they extend to cover the entire of the back of the jersey to insinuate a red "cape".

[Anthony]

is thiswhat you were looking for?

that's just plain wrong.

[Anthony]

how do you upload your helmet/logo's to this site, rather than use as an attachment? that file for my team uni's comes out small when you click on it.

[Fritz]

there is a big mass of white space around them and IE ishrinking the total image to fit. Hold on and I will fix it.

[Fritz]

hero uni

[cuervo72]

Here is the Heroes helmet, hopefully a little cleaner. If anything needs adjusting let me know.

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Astoria-Heroes.jpg

[Daimyo]

Columbus (IN) Architects helmet:

[Daimyo]

and endzone art:

[Vince]

Those look great Daimyo.

HA, I like the unis. The helmets might have to grow on me a little bit though.

[Anthony]

OMG, Fritz and cuervo, those were great. i appreciate it a lot.

cuervo - that's <i>exactly</i> what i was looking for. thanks!

fritz, great job.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by Daimyo
Columbus (IN) Architects helmet:

looks good D.

[cuervo72]

Nice job, Daimyo. You're welcome HA.

[Buccaneer]

cuervo, email me at ouray2 AT att.net and let's discuss what you can do for my Syracuse team. I am leaning towards the Syracuse Mohawks with a dark burgundy (48/0/0) scheme. Thanks.

[torahbirth]

I just found out about the multi-player tonight, and I would be interested in joining any potential leagues. (provided the time demands were not too severe)

Fictional: Jerusalem Jaguars

Real: New York Giants

[Anthony]

this league is for all intents and purposes an "invite-only" league. but even more than that, we already have quite a large waiting list, of which i'm certain our commish will place you on. count on receiving your invitation sometime in the summer.


....of 2010.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
I watch endless reruns of 90210.

Never could have guessed

[Anthony]

i fully expected you of all people to find that post funny.

[Fritz]

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
i fully expected you of all people to tease me mercilessly about my unending love for 90210 and Jason Perry.

[cuervo72]

Presenting the Syracuse Mohawks.

http://cuervo72.majecc.net/helmets/Syracuse-Mohawks.jpg