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Easy Mac
11-02-2003, 09:08 PM
I've got a team that dropped from DIV that got in the mid 40's in NSI after seemingly being abandoned for a few weeks. The problem is they pull a higher midfield than my team, but the rest of their team sucks... that may get them a cheap win versus me.
The 2 promoted teams are pretty poor. They pulled in the 30's to 40's in the NSI, though one team has potential with the right purchases/training.
It looks like it may be a battle for first between rabbits and my team again. I finished ahead the past 2 seasons. Hopefully I can bypass a qualifier to autopromote, I think my team can be D4 ready by the end of the season.
finkenst
11-02-2003, 09:25 PM
vi.2 champion lost his qualifier 3-0. so, same 8 teams.
antbacker
11-02-2003, 09:39 PM
V.252 replaced 2 demoted bots with 2 human teams, Prior Lake Thunder and The Wild Surge. Unfortunately, they pull in ratings similar to my team. Also, the demoted IV team is *Ecko United, formerly The Muppets, whose owner is very active on the conferences. They daytrade quite a bit, but I'm not sure how good they really are. Regardless, it will be a real dogfight in my division.
McSweeny
11-02-2003, 09:50 PM
v.103
guy who won the league lost his qualification match 5-0. 5 and 6 both won their demotion matches. Got one new bot team from DVI and one pretty active owner out of DVI.
TredWel
11-02-2003, 10:26 PM
Welcome to hell.
Div III demotee punted their qualifier, and will now be the big fish in the small pond that is IV.22. They regularly put up NSI's in the 90 & midfields in the brilliant-magnificent-world class range.
We have three new promotees. One looks strong, and should finsih third or fourth this year. One's of middling strength, and one is a pushover.
End result? I'll be lucky if I get to play another qualifier. I calculated everybody's odd of winning & demoting in my league. I've rated my odds of winning the league at 175-1, promotion at 500-1, and demotion at 7-2. Not a pretty sight.
Mr. Wednesday
11-02-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by antbacker
V.252 replaced 2 demoted bots with 2 human teams, Prior Lake Thunder and The Wild Surge.Hey, I know PLT! They got the team up and running pretty quick (first game was 7/17, first three games they had a 37 NSI), but have plateaued at mid-50's NSIs for a while now. They participate in an active Hattrick discussion on another forum, so they should know what they're doing.
TredWel, how'd you do odds?
antbacker
11-02-2003, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Wednesday
Hey, I know PLT! They got the team up and running pretty quick (first game was 7/17, first three games they had a 37 NSI), but have plateaued at mid-50's NSIs for a while now. They participate in an active Hattrick discussion on another forum, so they should know what they're doing.
Well, you can tell him he's goin' down! :D
gobig6
11-03-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by antbacker
Well, you can tell him he's goin' down! :D
Or you can just tell me yourself. :D
Looks like I got promoted to a pretty tough series. Should be fun.
BreizhManu
11-03-2003, 04:55 PM
same teams for me since I lost my qualifier
Superman=#54
11-03-2003, 05:06 PM
Series: V.171 (8544)
Country: USA
Level: 5 out of 6
Team Played Goals Points
1. Pie Eaters 14 54 - 17 33
2. Once again 14 44 - 18 29
3. Echidna 14 39 - 22 26
4. Red Army Wisconsin 14 39 - 34 24
5. Orange Park 14 39 - 32 23
6. K-Wings 14 23 - 45 12
7. Shaw_Shanksters 14 85 - 4 42
8. Alabama Lions 14 43 - 14 37
After looking over the teams schedules it looks like it will be very tough for me to break the top 4. My goal this season is 4th-5th place.
EDIT: My 666th post MUHAHAHAAHH!!!! :eek:
BishopMVP
11-03-2003, 05:28 PM
I went from a ridiculously hard league where 6 teams including me posted at least an 80 Week 14, and another had a 74 PIC'ing to an easy one where only 1 team posted a 55+ last season. I am stating my intention now that I will finally take the FOFC Cup this season (barring TP, Apoc or any of our 1/2/3 teams joining in).
lytic
11-03-2003, 05:36 PM
A IV.19 team will need a 80 NSI to win 6th place.
NAIWF
11-03-2003, 06:00 PM
I could finish anywhere from 1st through 5th. The top 4 stayed in, #5 lost to a 30 NSI bot, # 6 is still there, 7 is a mid 40's human player and 8 is a bot.
In essence we traded a defensive turtle for an all around player and gained 2 weak bots too. I don't think I can promote unless I win at least 13 games in my series, and if I'm not in position by the end of week 5 to do that, I'm gonna tank it and intentionally demote since there's no joy in having 4 65+ teams cripple each other's chances season in and season out in D5.
PilotMan
11-04-2003, 09:22 AM
One year removed from the weakest in D.IV and things have changed. Four new teams have been added and things should be interesting for this season. Here we go.
Hustler ranked 1 in IV.6
NSI AVG -- 66
Stars -- 30.2
High Season NSI -- 90
Low Season NSI -- 51
Last seasons defending champs are #1 favs again.
Midwest Ice Storm FC ranked 2 in IV.6
NSI AVG -- 68.2
Stars -- 32.3
High Season NSI -- 79
Low Season NSI -- 41
I hope we stay here, and can challenge for the title.
Frothingham ranked 3 in IV.6
NSI AVG -- 72.8
Stars -- 32.8
High Season NSI -- 77
Low Season NSI -- 51
Definately could be a player. Tough all around and in the fight.
Brewskis ranked 4 in IV.6
NSI AVG -- 60.4
Stars -- 29.8
High Season NSI -- 68
Low Season NSI -- 43
Tough team, about a half step behind the top 3.
A-Ballers ranked 1 in V.127
NSI AVG -- 56.7
Stars -- 29.1
High Season NSI -- 66
Low Season NSI -- 37
Room to improve, offseason improvements could do it.
Tholcrist ranked 1 in V.205
NSI AVG -- 66.0
Stars -- 31.1
High Season NSI -- 75
Low Season NSI -- 52
Immediate contender.
Thrashing Badgers ranked 1 in V.88
NSI AVG -- 54.6
Stars -- 27.5
High Season NSI -- 62
Low Season NSI -- 40
Will need help and a big improvment to stay here.
Ginobili ranked 1 in V.139
NSI AVG -- 60.8
Stars -- 28.7
High Season NSI -- 67
Low Season NSI -- 50
The other bet to demote if no changes are made.
Still nowhere near the most difficult, and infact a fairly easy division, but much improved from last season.
Originally posted by NAIWF
I could finish anywhere from 1st through 5th. The top 4 stayed in, #5 lost to a 30 NSI bot, # 6 is still there, 7 is a mid 40's human player and 8 is a bot.
In essence we traded a defensive turtle for an all around player and gained 2 weak bots too. I don't think I can promote unless I win at least 13 games in my series, and if I'm not in position by the end of week 5 to do that, I'm gonna tank it and intentionally demote since there's no joy in having 4 65+ teams cripple each other's chances season in and season out in D5.
Maybe when you promote, you'll make it to IV.19:)
NYFAN
11-04-2003, 11:01 AM
I have 3 new teams in IV.8. One looks to be clearly better than myself, one worse, and one on about par.
TredWel
11-04-2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Wednesday
TredWel, how'd you do odds?
I took everybody's weighted NSI over the past season, and determined everybody's win percentage against every other team using Pythagoras with the NSI's. Once that was determined I wrote a quick program that used the binomial theorem, among other things, to calculate each team's chances of winning 0, 1, or 2 games against each opposition. Once we knew those chances, it was a simple matter to calculate the chance of finishing with 0 wins, 1 win, etc. I ignored the chance of a tie because I couldn't figure out a way to mathematically represent that chance. With that info, we set limits where we can expect the important series lines to fall. For example, I assumed that anything 6 points or less would mean automatic demotion. The program calculated all this, and spit out the percentage chances of demotion, league victory, and promotion.
Very simple, really. :D
terpkristin
11-04-2003, 11:43 AM
Hmmm. I ended up winning my qualifier (I'm fairly certain that my opponent wanted to demote, though), putting me in series IV.62, ranked 15th hardest in division IV by Hatstats. Yup, I'm guessing I'll be back in V come season 22...
~tk
cheetum
11-04-2003, 11:55 AM
III.9 has gotten stronger as a whole, but there is still a wide gap between the top 2-3 teams and the fresh meat from div IV.
Superstars, with a beefier midfield and sleeker attack, hope to climb the series ladder, to our rightful spot at 4th. --the team who stole my spot had two very lucky match results and beat me by 1 point :( this season im gonna make him pay! >:}
The Afoci
11-04-2003, 11:58 AM
I see no reason I will not go undefeated in my series this year. A bot demoted from DIV and 2 came up from DVI. The Orcs are my only competition at all and are rather weak competition at that. They pulled a tie against me last year when I had my three starting defenders out due to injury and my midfield was in crap form. They won't be so lucky this year.
bigjdotcom01
11-04-2003, 12:11 PM
Well, the series champ in V.53 autopromoted and we received a bot team in its place from D IV. We them received two bots from D VI also. Three crappy teams added, two subtracted. Looks like I will be battling the War Donkeys for first place.
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