repositioning?

[saintjo]

maybe i misunderstood, but a few people on the hattrick boards mentioned that some players loose abilities by being repositioned? like a player will play better if he is positioned in the actual midfielder slot rather than that same player being repositioned from say a defender position using the "extra midfielder" option.
is there any truth to this?

[Vince]

Well, for a player who is repositioned, you can't give individual orders. The only way they would lose abilities is if they have the skillset to be a very good offensive middie, and you put them as "Extra Inner Midfield," because then you can't utilize the "Offensive" strategy for his position.

[McSweeny]

i've always found that the guy i put in the 'extra' spot suffers about a half a star drop. And that is in addition to not being able to make him 'offensive' or 'defensive' or whatever

[FrogMan]

I don't know about a fixed loss in stars rating, but it is in the rule that a repositionned player is not as good as the same player playing normal in the regular position... From the rules:


When you reposition a player he will act as anyone of the players normally in that position would, apart from him not being able to completely optimize his game (he´ll contribute slightly less as an "Extra inner midfielder" than if he had been a real inner midfielder). This is because there will be too many players in the same place, getting under each others feet.


I have not tested putting too many different player in the "extra IM" position. I usually my player with the best combined secondary skills. I have one IM with both inadequate passing and defending and another with both solid passing and defending (:drool: :) )

FM

[Vince]

Huh, thanks for the clarification guys.

[saintjo]

so would you want your best player or worst player repositioned?
i could see you saying the best player could loose a little and still play good or that your worst player has less to loose.

[FrogMan]

My regular starters are the following:

#1 excellent playmaker w/inadequate passing & wretched defending
#2 excellent playmaker w/poor passing & inadequate defending
#3 high solid playmaker w/inadequate passing & defending

I play #1 offensive (gain on passing, lose on defending with nothing to lose), #2 defensive (same thing with defending), and #3 as the extra since I don't want to gain on something and lose the same thing on the other side...

Hope I make sense...

FM

[Vince]

SaintJo - I think it doesn't really matter, skill wise...you're still losing the same amount of production no matter who it comes from. Just make sure you're not repositioning a guy who could play better with "Offensive" or "Defensive" individual orders.

[FrogMan]

dola, what I'm saying is that I'm playing my players' strengths...
If my third was a similar playmaker with only weak passing and defending, I'd probably play him as the extra, not much to gain on playing him offensive or defensive... I like special orders a lot, I think you can see that :)

FM

[vex]

I was told that the player "repositioned" lost 10% of their skill for that match.

[vex]

Dola


Which is why it is best to put your worse player in the extra spot.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally posted by saintjo
maybe i misunderstood, but a few people on the hattrick boards mentioned that some players loose abilities by being repositioned? like a player will play better if he is positioned in the actual midfielder slot rather than that same player being repositioned from say a defender position using the "extra midfielder" option.
is there any truth to this? Not only is it true, Bjorn has said that people generally underestimate the magnitude of the penalty.

I prefer to put my weakest player in the reposition spot, because I figure it's probably a percentage penalty rather than a fixed deduction.