Who dat? The Bengals! [Archive] - Front Office Football Central

Dutch

11-16-2003, 02:02 PM

Reminds me of when the Bucs were finally up and coming after so many years of being laughed at. And with Jon Kitna just making the best meaningless 2 yard run of the year, I find myself cheering for them too!

Even though I never liked the Bengals, I think this is what die-hard football is all about. Endure the bad times and then enjoy the excitement of winning football and an enhanced level.

For instance, the Bengals are 4-5 and their fans are very excited about their young team right now. The Bucs are 4-5 and their fans (me) are very nervous about their very old team right now.

That's what footballs all about.

And also why I find FOF so intriguing. It's not the sustainment of a good football team that is enjoyable (but perhaps that is the greater challenge), but it's the creation of a good football team out of the rebuilding years that brings me the most fun.

korme

11-16-2003, 02:04 PM

Yes, Kitna did have a very nice 2 yard run right there! :) Or how about him stepping up after another close sack, and firing that pass to CJ for a first down.

WHO DEY!

TLK

11-16-2003, 02:20 PM

Nice.....

kcchief19

11-16-2003, 02:23 PM

Bengals defense is playing terrific today. The haven't allowed the Chiefs to get into a rhythm and they haven't allowed any big plays.

I'm worried, but not panicked. The Packers has the Chiefs down more than this and they came back. If Hall can break a good return here, we'll be back on pace. If not, I'll get more worried.

kcchief19

11-16-2003, 02:24 PM

Crap.

korme

11-16-2003, 03:12 PM

WHO DEY

WHO DEY

WHO DEY THINK GONNA BEAT DEM BENGALS!

NOT THE CHIEFS! :cool:

RendeR

11-16-2003, 03:15 PM

BOOOOYAHhhhh!!!!!!!!

tucker rocky

11-16-2003, 03:16 PM

Well, the '72 Dolphins can now break out the champagne. Tough luck KC, and a great run at it. This should be the only loss for KC this year though.

I would like to see KC and Dallas SB, Vermeil against Parcells, should be interesting.

JPhillips

11-16-2003, 03:26 PM

Its been a long dark decade, but I finally see some light. Marvin Lewis should have the Coach of the Year wrapped up already.

tucker rocky

11-16-2003, 03:32 PM

I have to give to the Bengals today, they talked the talk, and backed it up by winning. This is another team that is coming out of their long slumber, and doldrums. This is what I like about the NFL nowadays, no dynasties, and parity, anybody can be beat, that is why they play the game.

Northwood_DK

11-16-2003, 03:36 PM

Is this the same team that lost to Arizona in week 9:)

tucker rocky

11-16-2003, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Northwood_DK
Is this the same team that lost to Arizona in week 9:)

Is Arizona the same team that beat the Bengals in week9 ? No :D
The Bengals came to play today.

MizzouRah

11-16-2003, 04:40 PM

The Bungals, who would have thought?

Todd

TroyF

11-16-2003, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by tucker rocky
Well, the '72 Dolphins can now break out the champagne. Tough luck KC, and a great run at it. This should be the only loss for KC this year though.

I would like to see KC and Dallas SB, Vermeil against Parcells, should be interesting.

Huh? They'll lose at Denver. They'll lose in the playoffs. Probably round one.

That's two more for you right there.

TroyF

RendeR

11-16-2003, 05:30 PM

And the idea that Dallas will get near the super bowl has me laughing so hard its hard to rbeathe....

Noble_Platypus

11-16-2003, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by TroyF
Huh? They'll lose at Denver. They'll lose in the playoffs. Probably round one.

That's two more for you right there.

TroyF

Unless KC collapses the rest of the way they wont even play in round 1. They will have a bye. I do believe that eith my Colts or the Titans will beat them though.

JAG

11-16-2003, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by RendeR
And the idea that Dallas will get near the super bowl has me laughing so hard its hard to rbeathe....

Because who in the NFC has been so dominating this year?

I wouldn't be surprised by any team from the NFC making it.

And congrats to the Bengals. The arrow is pointed up.

damnMikeBrown

11-16-2003, 05:44 PM

Man, Kitna had one hell of day. Usually, if he has to get creative & evade the d-lineman, bad things, usually very bad things happen. He looked like Houdini today :) and made some really nice throws under pressure.

GO RUDY!!

Radii

11-16-2003, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by JPhillips
Its been a long dark decade, but I finally see some light. Marvin Lewis should have the Coach of the Year wrapped up already.

With John Fox and Bill Parcells both in the mix I don't think this is necessarily true at all, though I am sure he will get some votes. I really don't know at this point who I think deserves coach of the year the most. If Dallas can win the NFC East and perform well with their schedule picking up a little in difficulty towards the end of the year, i would think Parcells will probably win no matter what.

jerem77

11-16-2003, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Dutch
Reminds me of when the Bucs were finally up and coming after so many years of being laughed at. And with Jon Kitna just making the best meaningless 2 yard run of the year, I find myself cheering for them too!

Even though I never liked the Bengals, I think this is what die-hard football is all about. Endure the bad times and then enjoy the excitement of winning football and an enhanced level.

For instance, the Bengals are 4-5 and their fans are very excited about their young team right now. The Bucs are 4-5 and their fans (me) are very nervous about their very old team right now.

That's what footballs all about.

And also why I find FOF so intriguing. It's not the sustainment of a good football team that is enjoyable (but perhaps that is the greater challenge), but it's the creation of a good football team out of the rebuilding years that brings me the most fun.

How quickly a 9-1 start makes people forget that the Chiefs have basically sucked since Schottenheimer's last year. Hats off to the Bengals though, they played a good game.

kcchief19

11-16-2003, 06:00 PM

To a large degree, this game was a result of the Bengals playing the perfect game and the Chiefs bringing their C game. Even then, the Bengals only won by 5 at home.

It's a great accomplishment for the Begnals. They earned it today. But I wouldn't exactly write the Chiefs off yet, for crying out loud.

RendeR

11-16-2003, 06:01 PM

Carolina, Philadelphia, Minnesota, St Louis, and even Seattle are very good football teams, all of which could handle the Cowboys come playoff time. Heck even the hated 49ers could slap Dallas on any given sunday.

RendeR

11-16-2003, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by kcchief19
To a large degree, this game was a result of the Bengals playing the perfect game and the Chiefs bringing their C game. Even then, the Bengals only won by 5 at home.

It's a great accomplishment for the Begnals. They earned it today. But I wouldn't exactly write the Chiefs off yet, for crying out loud.

I don't agree with you at all that the chiefs only played a C game, the stats are actually in the chiefs favor, they made plays they scored almost at will in the 4th quarter, yet they couldn't stop the Bengals run game.

I think they brought what they had and it wasn't enough against what the Bengals had on the same day.

no turnovers, no major penalties that changed drives *unless you call the pass interference on Hardy one, which benefited the chiefs*

this was a great game by both teams, and the special teams made the plays for the Bengals for the win, the chiefs special teams, were good, but not good enough.

This was an A game on both sides of the football. I think both teams have huge weaknesses in the deep pass coverage and the chiefs are still having trouble stuffing the run as well. not being able to run the ball for the chiefs was probably the primary reason they couldn't get moving on offense most of the day.

damnMikeBrown

11-16-2003, 06:24 PM

The most important thing for the Bengals to me, watching as a fan, was that they didn't fold.

In the 4th quarter, the Chiefs made several pushes, scoring twice I believe and putting themselves in great position for the win. Each time, I just thought, "Uh oh, here we go again. They're going to Bungle themselves again and find a way to loose.". Each time, the Bengals struck back with a score, keeping ahead in the game.

Their fortitude to overcome in the 4th quarter when in any given game in the past dozen years they would have folded like origami, well, today I was proud to be a Bengal fan.

Another thing. . . How damn cool is it that Romo got busted by the new roid test!!! A BIG :) for that!

TroyF

11-16-2003, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Noble_Platypus
Unless KC collapses the rest of the way they wont even play in round 1. They will have a bye. I do believe that eith my Colts or the Titans will beat them though.

I meant the first round they play. They'll lock up a bye with three weeks left.

To a large degree, this game was a result of the Bengals playing the perfect game and the Chiefs bringing their C game. Even then, the Bengals only won by 5 at home.

It's a great accomplishment for the Begnals. They earned it today. But I wouldn't exactly write the Chiefs off yet, for crying out loud.

I just don't get this at all. The Chiefs give up 400+ yards to every good offensive team they play. If anything, Cincy left a lot of points on the field with the missed field goal and driving inside the 20 late.

They also went 4-13 on third downs, including a smattering of ultra conservative calls in the first half.

I thought the Chiefs gameplan sucked, but that has nothing to do with bringing your "A" "B" or "C" game.

I'm not writing the Chiefs off because of this game. I don't think they are as good of a team as Tennessee or Indy. I don't think they can stop a good offense. They try to contain them and hope its enough.

I remember when the Broncos were making their run in '97. Most people wrote off that team because of what was assumed was a poor defense. That defense was ranked 15 spots ahead of the current Chiefs defense.

If the Chiefs can turn the game into a "psycho" game with tons of scoring, turnovers and big plays. . . they'll run wild. Usually that type of thing slows down in the playoffs.

Having said all of that long winded stuff that's probably causing Chiefs fans to have a heat stroke, they should be congrautulated on one hell of a run and it shouldn't be assumed they couldn't take off on another one.

If they beat Denver at Investco, it'll go a long way to convincing me they may have a shot in the playoffs.

TroyF

the_meanstrosity

11-16-2003, 06:51 PM

As a Chiefs fan, I'm less worried about Denver than I am Minnesota. Denver's defense has taken a huge hit with recent injuries and Jake Plummer is not a QB that you want to count on. I like Jake from his ASU days, but it's hard to forget his days as a Cardinal.

TroyF

11-16-2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by the_meanstrosity
As a Chiefs fan, I'm less worried about Denver than I am Minnesota. Denver's defense has taken a huge hit with recent injuries and Jake Plummer is not a QB that you want to count on. I like Jake from his ASU days, but it's hard to forget his days as a Cardinal.

You know, I was in the same belief system. I didn't like the move for Plummer at all. I thought he'd fail miserably.

He's got me sold. He has great mobility and has a great play fake. This allows him to get outside defenses without being under serious pressure. (you have to keep an eye on Portis) He's completing a high % of his passes.

Thing is, even without the fancy dancy stats, the offense is clearly a different team when he's healthy and playing. After that horrific day one effort against Cincy, Jake has now thrown 11TD's and 1 INT.

Can he win the BIG game? I don't know that yet. I do know he's a better QB than Jon Kitna and the Denver offense ran up 459 yards against KC at Arrowhead the first time the teams played. They get 459 yards at Investco, you don't win the football game.

As for the defense, they had a pretty good day today. :) Their biggest problem the past few weeks hasn't been the injured LB's, it's been the offense putting up 8 three and outs a game.

There is no way in hell KC will force Denver into more than 2 three and outs when they match up.

TroyF

HornedFrog Purple

11-16-2003, 07:14 PM

Because who in the NFC has been so dominating this year?

Nobody yet, but the Eagles are getting healthier and have quietly turned it around. They will probably win the NFC East and people were writing them off for dead.

Carolina, Philadelphia, Minnesota, St Louis, and even Seattle are very good football teams, all of which could handle the Cowboys come playoff time. Heck even the hated 49ers could slap Dallas on any given sunday.

And vice versa. The Cowboys defense can keep them in any game against any NFC team, they just have to move the ball and score some points. Being 7-2 and most likely 7-3 after tonight still means you are doing something right in this NFL.

Congrats shorty and the other Bengals fans, you have a keeper.

Mustang

11-16-2003, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by RendeR
Carolina, Philadelphia, Minnesota, St Louis, and even Seattle are very good football teams, all of which could handle the Cowboys come playoff time. Heck even the hated 49ers could slap Dallas on any given sunday.

Minnesota?

Very good football teams don't lose 4 in a row.

TroyF

11-16-2003, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Mustang
Minnesota?

Very good football teams don't lose 4 in a row.

Really? The Raiders didn't lose four in a row last year and head to the Super Bowl? The Chargers didn't start out 0-4 and go to the Super Bowl one year?

Minnesota is self destructing right now and may fall completely apart, yet in this day and age, you don't just assume because a team lost 4 in a row they are finished off for good or can't be a good football team. It's how you are playing in early January that's important.

TroyF

Wasabiak

11-16-2003, 07:33 PM

Congrats to the Bengals and their fans on a great win today. Man, now that's a team that is coming around. And Troy, i can assure you the Vikings are finished winning games this year. Our high school football team here in Baldwin could run for over 100 yards against that defense. So there is no arguing about it.........They are done.

Ksyrup

11-16-2003, 07:55 PM

That was a fun game to watch, and the crowd was amazing. Unlike watching the Marlins at Joe Robbie at the end of July with 7,000 of my closest friends, it was great to see so many fans rooting for a team that is just .500, given the history. Those are great fans, and they deserve to have that team do well, even if the ownership deserves lottery picks until they sell the team.

the_meanstrosity

11-16-2003, 07:56 PM

Troy,

I'll tell you this...with as thin as the Bronco's are now on defense...I think the Chiefs could light them up in Investco.

If the Chiefs and Broncos stay healthy...it should be a great game. I do think having Tony Gonzalez at 100% will help the Chiefs. Neither defense is exceptionally strong. I would not be surprised to see a score in the 30s or 40s. The difference maker could be Elam's leg in the thin air. The guy is a monster.

the_meanstrosity

11-16-2003, 07:59 PM

ksyrup,

I really like what Marvin Lewis has done with that team. That defense was all over the place and gave Kansas City fits. I think Marvin Lewis is going to be a head coach in the NFL for a long time. He's just too good a coach and a person.

Mustang

11-16-2003, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by TroyF
Really? The Raiders didn't lose four in a row last year and head to the Super Bowl? The Chargers didn't start out 0-4 and go to the Super Bowl one year?

Minnesota is self destructing right now and may fall completely apart, yet in this day and age, you don't just assume because a team lost 4 in a row they are finished off for good or can't be a good football team. It's how you are playing in early January that's important.

TroyF

Hindsight is 20/20. Right now, Minnesota is not a very good football team. Did I say bad, terrible? No.. I just think there are 4-5 teams better than them right now.

If you would have asked me after San Diego and Oakland lost 4-4, I would have said they weren't a very good football team.

I really don't think the Vikings and Vikings fans are walking around right now going.. 'Yaaaaa.. exactly where we want em.. Our plan is working perfectly.. MUWA HAHHAHAHAHA...'

TroyF

11-16-2003, 11:30 PM

TroyF

11-16-2003, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by Ronnie Dobbs2
I have to preface this by saying I have not been following the Bengals (no U anymore :) ) all that closely the past few years.

Was this the first game Peter Warrick played since playing at Florida State? Was this one of those FOF24K type hold-outs or something? ;)

But seriously now. No one denied, when he came out, that Warrick had the skills. Do you think he still can become a consistent threat?

It didn't start just this game. Warrick has been a major threat all year. He's made a ton of big first down catches.

He'll end up with about 1100 total yards this year just in receiving and rushing. His returns are just a bonus.

He's not going to win any MVP trophies, but he has developed into a solid #2 WR this year.

TroyF

uglytuco

11-17-2003, 12:47 AM

Yeah, Warrick has been solid all year. Its just that CJ is getting all the headlines. I picked Warrick up in FA for my FF team, but have yet to start him since I have CJ going. Starting 2 WRs from th same team just isnt a smart idea.

Ive heard enough from Chiefs fans. I heard them all week at a Bengals message board. And now theyre all whining that they didnt play their 'A' game. Bullsheet! My boys beat yours, so suck it up and move on. And I dont wanna hear no crap that they overlooked us either. CJ shot his mouth off and the national media played it up all week.

Marvin (coach of the year) Lewis put together a helluva game plan and got the job done.

Dam, its been a long time since us downtrodden Bengal fans could stand tall and pump our chests after a big win!!

fof playa

11-17-2003, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Mustang
Hindsight is 20/20. Right now, Minnesota is not a very good football team. Did I say bad, terrible? No.. I just think there are 4-5 teams better than them right now.

If you would have asked me after San Diego and Oakland lost 4-4, I would have said they weren't a very good football team.

I really don't think the Vikings and Vikings fans are walking around right now going.. 'Yaaaaa.. exactly where we want em.. Our plan is working perfectly.. MUWA HAHHAHAHAHA...'

Originally posted by Wasabiak
Congrats to the Bengals and their fans on a great win today. Man, now that's a team that is coming around. And Troy, i can assure you the Vikings are finished winning games this year. Our high school football team here in Baldwin could run for over 100 yards against that defense. So there is no arguing about it.........They are done.

What a couple of cheeseheads. :p

Mustang

11-17-2003, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by fof playa
What a couple of cheeseheads. :p

Yes. I'm a Packer fan and we aren't that good either.

scooper

11-17-2003, 07:56 AM

Hey! This thread is not about the Vikings, Packers, Cowboys, or even really about the Chefs (Looks good, but who are the Chefs?)!!

This thread is about The Cincinnati Bengals!!!!!!!:D It even brought out uglytuco, the one who steered me from a Bengals board to FOF a few years ago.

Hey Bengals fans, here's an oldie but a goodie circa 88-89.

Who Dey
Who Dey
Who Dey
Who Dey think they gonna beat them Bengals
Where do they play? In the Jungle!
Afraid of nooooooooooobody!!!

Or circa 82-83 the original Who Dey song
From the banks of the Ohio comes that orange and black machine
They're the Cincinnati Bengals the finest ever seen
With stripes upon their helmets and fire in their eyes
They'll take the field They will not yield
They're strong and tough and wise
Who Dey Who Dey Who Dey think they gonna beat them Bengals?

Or circa sixty-something:
Hear that Bengal growling mean and an-gery
Here he comes a prowling lean and hun-gery
An offensive Brute
Run pass or boot
and defensively he's ROUGH! TOUGH!
The Cincinnati Bengals
That's the team we're gonna chear to vic-tory
TOUCHDOW BENGALS get some points up on that board
and win the game for Cincinnati!!!!!

Awesome. It's fun to be a fan again. The Jungle lives. Let's just hope Bratkowski remembers to pack the running game for San Diego.

RendeR

11-17-2003, 10:11 AM

With San Diego's defense in the state it is, Rudi and Dillon both may haul in 100+ yards against the Chargers. I just hope Frazier brings this same defense to San Diego, because Flutie's been looking good down there and we play for shit on the road this year.

Great win for us Bengal Fans, BOOYAH!!!

I'm not sure I can stomach any of those fight songs...yick. I've been a Bengal fan since 1980, and I cringe whenever I hear "Who Dey" I mean come on, are we illiterate? it just sounds dumb to me.

Either way I'll be a Bengal Till I die. Now lets go win 3 straight on the road and take over this division once and for all!!!!

Kodos

11-17-2003, 10:37 AM

Without reading through the thread, I would like to congratulate the long-suffering Bengals fans. Looks like you've found yourself a coach! I figure since I am always quick to criticize them, I might as well give the Bungles some credit when it is due.

scooper

11-17-2003, 11:10 AM

Thank you Kodos. And thanks to the Dolphins for helping out yesterday by beating the Ratbirds. I think that game is a nice trade off for securing the record of the 72 Phins.

Butter

11-17-2003, 11:53 AM

Hey, I'm not going to believe until they have the division title locked up. Which may or may not happen.

If they play at San Diego like they normally play on the West Coast (L's at Oakland and AZ already... and AZ just lost to the Browns by 38, I mean wtf?!?!?!), we can just forget about all this playoff crap.

But that was an awesome game yesterday. Most fun I've had watching a Bengals game in YEARS. I must've watched the opening of Sportscenter/ESPNEWS about 8 times.

Kodos

11-17-2003, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by scooper
Thank you Kodos. And thanks to the Dolphins for helping out yesterday by beating the Ratbirds. I think that game is a nice trade off for securing the record of the 72 Phins.

Beating the Chiefs was much appreciated. Glad to help out by beating the Ravens (even though a Dolphins loss would have made me happy in the Dave Wannstedt is getting closer to being fired way).

korme

11-17-2003, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by RendeR
I'm not sure I can stomach any of those fight songs...yick. I've been a Bengal fan since 1980, and I cringe whenever I hear "Who Dey" I mean come on, are we illiterate? it just sounds dumb to me.

Dude, you don't mess with tradition!!! Why do you think we haven't been saying it for 12 years? We only use the phrase when we are winning. ;)

korme

11-17-2003, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Butter_of_69
But that was an awesome game yesterday. Most fun I've had watching a Bengals game in YEARS. I must've watched the opening of Sportscenter/ESPNEWS about 8 times.

Heh, I know. I watched Countdown, Sportscenter at 6, Sportscenter at 11, and today's Sportscenter.

Salisbury is really on our bandwagon. I like it.

TroyF

11-17-2003, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Shorty3281
Heh, I know. I watched Countdown, Sportscenter at 6, Sportscenter at 11, and today's Sportscenter.

Salisbury is really on our bandwagon. I like it.

Hopefully I built up enough points from you guys in Ohio to complain about Ohio State being ranked above USC in the BCS.

For the record, I've been on the Bengal bandwagon for nearly two months now. I also picked Ohio State to beat Miami last year and defended you guys when the anti Ohio State crowd threw a fit.

I think USC is a better team this year and should go play OU instead of Ohio State, no matter what happens with the Michigan game.

I should still have a few points in reserve even after that, right? :)

TroyF

korme

11-17-2003, 06:53 PM

I have come to the point to believe anything TroyF says. You are a football mastermind, my friend.

korme

11-17-2003, 06:55 PM

But no. Ohio State deserves to play in the championship after they handily defeat Michigan, for the simple fact that they Refused To Lose their way to a championship last year, and nearly do the same again this year. And we are the National Champions, and in these conditions (1 loss like many of the other contenders, good schedule, etc), we deserve to defend our crown.