Ohio State / Michigan [Archive] - Front Office Football Central

korme

11-22-2003, 10:01 AM

What can I say, this is the biggest rivalry I feel in any sports, but probably just because I live in Ohio. Some kid who used to live in Missouri said no one cared about OSU/Michigan, they cared about Mizzou/Kansas and that was how it was. How odd, as I saw half of my school in the scarlet and gray yesterday.

It is going to be a blast. This game is always fun and nerveracking to watch all at the same time. I hope OSU can pull it out, but it will be a challenge. Yet, I think Michigan is beattable and Chris Perry is not as good as many say he is. If we can shut him down, I feel Navarre will fold under the pressure to win a big game.

For the second year in a row, I got $50 on this game, but this game is more than winning a bet. We can get killed in our bowl game and you know what, I wouldn't be too unsatisfied, as beating Michigan is what the players live for.

Let's beat those Wolves.

Buccaneer

11-22-2003, 10:02 AM

Go Michigan.

cthomer5000

11-22-2003, 10:03 AM

I think Michigan will win easier than most people expect.

Mantle2600

11-22-2003, 10:08 AM

I think your all insane and OSU is goin back to the national championship.

11-22-2003, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Shorty3281
What can I say, this is the biggest rivalry I feel in any sports, but probably just because I live in Ohio.

Not the biggest rivalry in any sports, but I understand your feelings. Even down here in La. we recognize the game as one of the great rivalries in college football, and I always try to watch it. Of course I hate to break it to you, but most people in La. are pulling for Michigan due to BCS considerations. If LSU wins out, and the right people lose, LSU could get to play for the national championship, so it is nothing personal. I usually pull for Ohio St. and generally like the program. But not this time. LSU has its own great rivalry game today against Ole Miss. Today that rivalry regains some of its prominence, with both teams ranked and national implications. Back in the late 50s, 60s, and early 70s, it was like that almost every year. It has gone downill since then, but the mutual hatred that makes a great rivalry is till there. Now it is coupled with SEC title hopes for both teams and national hopes for LSU. And it is Eli Manning's last home game.

Honolulu_Blue

11-22-2003, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by cthomer5000
I think Michigan will win easier than most people expect.

Now this is the kind of positive thinking I like.

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 10:14 AM

Ohio State is close to Oregon. Obviously Michigan is screwed.

Honolulu_Blue

11-22-2003, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by JW
Not the biggest rivalry in any sports, but I understand your feelings. Even down here in La. we recognize the game as one of the great rivalries in college football, and I always try to watch it. Of course I hate to break it to you, but most people in La. are pulling for Michigan due to BCS considerations. If LSU wins out, and the right people lose, LSU could get to play for the national championship, so it is nothing personal. I usually pull for Ohio St. and generally like the program. But not this time. LSU has its own great rivalry game today against Ole Miss. Today that rivalry regains some of its prominence, with both teams ranked and national implications. Back in the late 50s, 60s, and early 70s, it was like that almost every year. It has gone downill since then, but the mutual hatred that makes a great rivalry is till there. Now it is coupled with SEC title hopes for both teams and national hopes for LSU. And it is Eli Manning's last home game.

If this is not the biggest rivalry of any sports then, what is?

I understand rivalries are often regional and all are obviously sports specific. For example, I have no real feelings about, say, the Red Sox/ Yankees rivalry. But, for a while there I'd have to say I considered the Avalanche/Detroit rivalry the biggest in sports.

I think a good rivalry has to have the following elements, all of which are interrelated:

1. Big, important games. Not just to the teams playing, but for the rest of the sport (play-off games, national title on the line, etc.)

2. Two teams near the top of their sport. Rivalries are their best when both teams are considered good or "great" teams. This will likely hit some peaks and valleys, but should, for the most part, be consistent.

3. The games are mainly competitive. A rivalry definitely loses some of its lustre if one team is always the favorite.

4. The teams play each other "often" (this is relative depending on the sport). Familiarity breeds contempt.

I am sure there are others, this was just a quick list I made up on the spot.

The Michigan/Ohio State rivalry have all four of these elements and have had them for many, many, many years. Rarely is this game of little consequence (in the Big 10, BCS, etc.). Rarely are these two teams not in the Top 20 (or Top 10 for the most part). The games are almost always competitive and close. They play each other every year.

All that being said....

GO BLUE!!!

Honolulu_Blue

11-22-2003, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by The Afoci
Ohio State is close to Oregon. Obviously Michigan is screwed.

Alphabetically speaking, yes. Fuck. We're screwed.

Noop

11-22-2003, 10:19 AM

Just wait till TroyF see's this thread. He'll make a big essay about how Ohio State will and Michigan is setting themselves up for failure. Then he'll bring the Miami-Ohio State as his proof he was right.

Noop

11-22-2003, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Honolulu_Blue
If this is not the biggest rivalry of any sports then, what is?

I understand rivalries are often regional and all are obviously sports specific. For example, I have no real feelings about, say, the Red Sox/ Yankees rivalry. But, for a while there I'd have to say I considered the Avalanche/Detroit rivalry the biggest in sports.

I think a good rivalry has to have the following elements, all of which are interrelated:

1. Big, important games. Not just to the teams playing, but for the rest of the sport (play-off games, national title on the line, etc.)

2. Two teams near the top of their sport. Rivalries are their best when both teams are considered good or "great" teams. This will likely hit some peaks and valleys, but should, for the most part, be consistent.

3. The games are mainly competitive. A rivalry definitely loses some of its lustre if one team is always the favorite.

4. The teams play each other "often" (this is relative depending on the sport). Familiarity breeds contempt.

I am sure there are others, this was just a quick list I made up on the spot.

The Michigan/Ohio State rivalry have all four of these elements and have had them for many, many, many years. Rarely is this game of little consequence (in the Big 10, BCS, etc.). Rarely are these two teams not in the Top 20 (or Top 10 for the most part). The games are almost always competitive and close. They play each other every year.

All that being said....

GO BLUE!!!

Any of the Florida teams( Florida State, Miami, Florida) when they play is a big game. And usually the state champion has played in the National Title. Ohio State-Michigan game is for you fellas up north....

DeToxRox

11-22-2003, 10:29 AM

I think the reason why OSU/UofM is the biggest rivalry is the fact it's 100 years old as of today, and when hasn't this game meant something?

A few years ago, Miami was garbage, and before Bowden, FSU Was garbage.

But every year, no matter what, UofM/OSU has a huge meaning.

The Iron Bowl can't say that.

Army/Navy can't say that (But I love the game, and it's special for its own reasons)

OU/Nebraska could've said that, but not anymore.

Texas/OU is up there, but still not at the level.

USC/UCLA is good, but again, not there.

I just don't see another rivalry where you can look and see that last game of the year and know everythings on the line before the season starts.

BigJohn&TheLions

11-22-2003, 10:35 AM

Michigan only lost to Oregon because their uniforms look like vomit. Uh oh... now we gotta play Ohio State, who actually ARE VOMIT!!! But in all seriousness Shorty. It's good to know that wou decided to give the $50 back...

Neuqua

11-22-2003, 11:03 AM

I have never watched college football game completely from beginning to end but I'm going to try to watch this one. ALthough I haven't slept in over 28 hours so I don't know if I can keep my eyes open the entire time.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER

11-22-2003, 11:05 AM

Anyone gonna tape the game ?
Michigan 23
Ohio State 21

Easy Mac

11-22-2003, 11:39 AM

griesse just said someone is on the sideline getting a blow.

Neuqua

11-22-2003, 11:54 AM

Ok, I still don't like college football, time to see what else is on.

Keep me updated on the score though.

amdaily

11-22-2003, 11:55 AM

As an OSU fan, I've already called this on for Michigan :(.

TLK

11-22-2003, 11:59 AM

I wish my digital camera was working..... All my neighbors have OSU flags up. The one guy with a Michigan flag is on his roof, waving it like there's no tomorrow. Gotta love college football and alcohol.... ;)

Buccaneer

11-22-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by Shorty3281

For the second year in a row, I got $50 on this game,

Rule #1 in betting. Always bet with your brain, not your heart. Even those that are more mature seem to not learn this lesson as well.

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 12:25 PM

Well, I know I was wrong. After I saw what Minnesota did to Michigan for 3 quarters, I figured that OSU would slaughter them.

Philliesfan980

11-22-2003, 12:27 PM

Wow this is disappointing. I'm a PSU fan, so I really don't have any interest who really wins this game or not, although I'm pulling for Michigan just because OSU are a bunch of jerks, with their weaseling winning ways, and overall corruptiveness.

I wanted this one to go down to the wire, but I don't even think that OSU could score 21 points in a game.

Buccaneer

11-22-2003, 12:28 PM

OSU had not been able to slaughter anyone decent all season (thus their overrated tag), this would be a really tough place to do start.

Calis

11-22-2003, 12:38 PM

Seemed like just a wee bit of an overreaction by Carr to that question.

Can't blame the guy for downing it like that, but sheesh..it's not THAT unbelievable someone would wonder that.

Either way, go Michigan! :)

mckerney

11-22-2003, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle
I think the reason why OSU/UofM is the biggest rivalry is the fact it's 100 years old as of today

Yeah, that's almost enough for longest rivalry in conference. Almost.

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 12:41 PM

I am watching the ESPN gamecast, looks like OSU is driving. If they can cut it to 21-7 at half and cut it to 21-14 by mid 3rd quarter, this will be a game. If they don't score before half and Michigan scores another TD, it is over.

kingnebwsu

11-22-2003, 12:42 PM

Now what kind of stupid question is that?

(Awkward pause)

(Angry stare)

Wasabiak

11-22-2003, 12:43 PM

I was on the fence as to who i wanted to win this game, but after Carr's comments at halftime, i hope OSU comes out in the second half and kicks his ass. THEN i bet he'll answer that dumb question.

mckerney

11-22-2003, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by The Afoci
I am watching the ESPN gamecast, looks like OSU is driving. If they can cut it to 21-7 at half and cut it to 21-14 by mid 3rd quarter, this will be a game. If they don't score before half and Michigan scores another TD, it is over.

Gamecast is slow, isn't it?

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 12:44 PM

I can't really tell. I am at work. It is all I got. But the updates seem to take forever.

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 12:46 PM

TD OSU. It might just be a game after all.

mckerney

11-22-2003, 12:46 PM

2nd quarters been over for a while, and if you still don't know 21-7 at the half.

DeToxRox

11-22-2003, 12:48 PM

Why would Carr take the chance of throwing a pick and putting OSU right back in it?

They had some momentum, it didn't make much sense to me either.

Three timeouts or not, it's 70 yards, and lots of room for mistakes.

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by mckerney
2nd quarters been over for a while, and if you still don't know 21-7 at the half.

I still show 48 seconds left in the half. Screw you guys and your radio and television broadcasts. I am on the net baby!

ice4277

11-22-2003, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by mckerney
2nd quarters been over for a while, and if you still don't know 21-7 at the half.

Your internet is slow, the Sugar Bowl is starting in 15 minutes.

Wasabiak

11-22-2003, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle
Why would Carr take the chance of throwing a pick and putting OSU right back in it?

They had some momentum, it didn't make much sense to me either.

Three timeouts or not, it's 70 yards, and lots of room for mistakes.

Then that's how he should have answered the question.

JeeberD

11-22-2003, 01:04 PM

Gotta love this game... :)

Easy Mac

11-22-2003, 01:14 PM

Gamble just got beat long again, but it looks like a late hold.

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Gamble just got beat long again, but it looks like a late hold.

This is incorrect. The internet clearly tells me it is still halftime.

Easy Mac

11-22-2003, 01:19 PM

Obviously the internet never lies... dod you know that another planet will crash into Earth in the next decade?

DeToxRox

11-22-2003, 01:23 PM

Why does Carr have to answer a reporters question? It's the biggest game of the season, and his team just gave up a TD. His emotions got the best of him. If you don't like this, you really must've hate Woody/Bo.

JeeberD

11-22-2003, 01:24 PM

Damn that holding call. It should be 35-7 instead of 28-14... :mad:

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Easy Mac
Obviously the internet never lies... dod you know that another planet will crash into Earth in the next decade?

Yeah, it sucks, but nothing you can do.

What is the score? I still only see halftime.

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 01:29 PM

Woohoo! I just got the first play of the second half. I will catch up eventually!

Solecismic

11-22-2003, 01:53 PM

Bad feeling here. What was Navarre thinking? Looks very bad for Michigan.

Craptacular

11-22-2003, 01:55 PM

Dammit, I wanna go get lunch before the 2:30 games. Just put 'em away Michigan!!!

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 01:56 PM

I am still seeing OSU driving down 28-7. God bless the internet and its quick dispersal of information. What is ESPN doing, relying on carrier pigeons to get the info back?

RonnieDobbs2, what could go down in an election in Florida?

Solecismic

11-22-2003, 02:00 PM

They completely let down after that holding call. I'm still seeing it through biased eyes. Was it a good call?

Perry is something else.

Craptacular

11-22-2003, 02:04 PM

Lunch time.

JeeberD

11-22-2003, 02:07 PM

Thank god for Chris Perry...

RendeR

11-22-2003, 02:09 PM

man Krenzel might be banged up but he's played like complete shit today. he hits a couple of those long shots they took to wide open recievers and this game is much tighter, kudos to the Buckeyes for staying as close as they are though, they coulda rolled over and given up at 28-7, but they showed some heart and are still crackin on them.

Solecismic

11-22-2003, 02:12 PM

I'm looking forward to Gutierrez/Breaston next season. Still holding my breath on this one. I've never had much confidence in Navarre, and we're going to see a run stack now.

Calis

11-22-2003, 02:12 PM

Maybe I have a bad memory, but wasn't there a lot of talk about how Perry couldn't do anything against a real defense?

Anyway, he's impressed me today. The guy just looks like he's dying after every play though, he could possibly suffer from Eddie George syndrome before his college career ends. ;)

Solecismic

11-22-2003, 02:16 PM

Did you see him when he carried 51 times against Michigan State. Halfway through that one, he looked half-dead. But he kept on taking the ball.

Krenzel looked more like a pro quarterback than Navarre until that last possession. He's obviously still in pain, but he's still their best bet.

Calis

11-22-2003, 02:20 PM

Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong. The kid is showing a helluva lot of heart, he just keeps on trucking.

I actually feel bad for him though, especially after the MSU game, I know they had to do what they had to do to win, but man...I just feel bad seeing a kid taking that much of a pounding. Afraid it will catch up to him way too soon.

He's one tough sucka though, give him that.

Easy Mac

11-22-2003, 02:28 PM

INT... game

Solecismic

11-22-2003, 02:28 PM

Phew. Great to get a W in this series. OSU is always tough.

JeeberD

11-22-2003, 02:34 PM

Good to see OSU go down. Now USC should get their chance...

mckerney

11-22-2003, 02:35 PM

Good to see a team like Michigan beat a program like Ohio State.

Plus we hopefully don't have to deal with a vastly overrated team making it to the BCS.

DeToxRox

11-22-2003, 02:35 PM

Whatagame.

Well, Shorty, time to announce that Perry won the game.

SnowMan

11-22-2003, 02:38 PM

Yay for USC.

ice4277

11-22-2003, 02:44 PM

all i can say is :D

Go Blue!

cthomer5000

11-22-2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Solecismic
They completely let down after that holding call. I'm still seeing it through biased eyes. Was it a good call?

Perry is something else.

The holding call was legit. He had a chokehold on the DE.

I'm glad that it didn't matter, and glad that THE most overrated football team in the nation will not be making another trip to the title game.

VPI97

11-22-2003, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by cthomer5000
THE most overrated football team in the nation Hahaha!

Good call.

Ksyrup

11-22-2003, 03:23 PM

:) :) :)

I'm glad the game turned out the way it should have. Michigan had to play poorly to lose its two games this year; OSU had to play well just to win several games this year. This is about what I expected, although take away the holding call (it was definitely legit) and at 35-7, this game would have been even more fun to watch.

TroyF

11-22-2003, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Noop
Just wait till TroyF see's this thread. He'll make a big essay about how Ohio State will and Michigan is setting themselves up for failure. Then he'll bring the Miami-Ohio State as his proof he was right.

I'm not sure how to respond to this.

Are you still pissed that I called the Ohio State/Miami game last year when many people on the board were saying it would be a 5 TD rout?

Have you read ANYTHING I've written about Ohio State this year? Just so you know, I've said sinse before the Wisconsin game that this Ohio State team was different than last years version. I expected them to lose 3 to 4 Big10 games this year. They proved me wrong and only finished with two losses.

I ask only one thing if you are going to call me out on a bad prediction. . . make it something I really said.

TroyF

Balldog

11-22-2003, 04:51 PM

All I have to say is wow! Michigan has a damn good football team and I would be surprised if they couldn't give Oklahoma or USC a game. Chris Perry is unreal.

mckerney

11-22-2003, 04:53 PM

USC - probably
Oklahoma - no

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by Balldog
All I have to say is wow! Michigan has a damn good football team and I would be surprised if they couldn't give Oklahoma or USC a game. Chris Perry is unreal.

This is also a squad that got incredibly lucky against Minnesota. They gave up close to or over 400 yards rushing to them.

Noop

11-22-2003, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by TroyF
I'm not sure how to respond to this.

Are you still pissed that I called the Ohio State/Miami game last year when many people on the board were saying it would be a 5 TD rout?

Have you read ANYTHING I've written about Ohio State this year? Just so you know, I've said sinse before the Wisconsin game that this Ohio State team was different than last years version. I expected them to lose 3 to 4 Big10 games this year. They proved me wrong and only finished with two losses.

I ask only one thing if you are going to call me out on a bad prediction. . . make it something I really said.

TroyF

Sure guy :rolleyes: TroyF your the smartest guy on this board when it comes to college football. You are never wrong... all hail Troy for he is the be all of college football.:rolleyes: .....seriously I was just joking because you usually post in every college football post.

:(

noop

ice4277

11-22-2003, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by The Afoci
This is also a squad that got incredibly lucky against Minnesota. They gave up close to or over 400 yards rushing to them.

Is coming back from a 24-point deficit in the 4th quarter lucky? If so I would take that luck any day.

TroyF

11-22-2003, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Noop
Sure guy :rolleyes: TroyF your the smartest guy on this board when it comes to college football. You are never wrong... all hail Troy for he is the be all of college football.:rolleyes: .....seriously I was just joking because you usually post in every college football post.

:(

noop

I reply in most of the college football posts because I like the sport and love discussing it.

The rest of your drivel doens't deserve a response.

TroyF

DeToxRox

11-22-2003, 06:19 PM

Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game?

Don't be those guys.

TroyF

11-22-2003, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle
Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game?

Don't be those guys.

They just lost to their arch rivals in a game that cost them a chance to be in the national championship game. . . give em some time. :)

TroyF

Balldog

11-22-2003, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle
Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game?

Don't be those guys.

I'm here, we got our asses kicked today.

The Afoci

11-22-2003, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by ice4277
Is coming back from a 24-point deficit in the 4th quarter lucky? If so I would take that luck any day.

I watched that game and Minnesota dominated them for three quarters and lost. Michigan definately earned the victory, don't get me wrong. What I was saying is that Minnesota is an average to slightly above average squad, and they were able to push Michigan around so I doubt they would give OU much of a game.

Leonidas

11-22-2003, 07:52 PM

Time to face the music. Congrats to UM, they played a great game today. I hope they do the Big-10 proud in Pasadena and administer a black and blue ass whippin in true B10 style to whomever they play. Also, many, many kudos to Chris Perry. He was a MAN today.

As for my Buckeyes, I am proud of the fact they didn't fold and stood up and made UM earn it when they were down 28-7. I think Jim Tressel has a lot to do with that. Under John Cooper this would have ended up 49-7. I was also greatly diassappointed in the D effort. If they could have just tackled this might have been different. I can't recall a single time where the first man hitting Perry actually brought him down.

Hopefully OSU, with their fan loyalty and virtual guarantee of a sellout wherever they play, can get a shot at the Orange or Fiesta Bowls. You all may have to tolerate another OSU-Miami game or even OSU-FSU. Either way, I like our chances. Good luck Michigan, GO BUCKS!

Honolulu_Blue

11-22-2003, 09:28 PM

Well done on both sides. Michigan was clearly the better team. They basically moved the ball at will. There was a severe lack of concentration in the 3rd quarter when the game was 28-7 and 28-14. But as soon as it was within in touchdown, Michigan moved the ball down the field with ease and scored a touchdown.

Michigan's best players were the best today: Perry, Edwards, Breaston, etc.

A solid game alll around.

GO BLUE!!!!

HAIL TO THE VICTORS VALIANT!
HAIL TO THE CONQUERING HEROES!
HAIL! HAIL! TO MICHIGAN!

Radii

11-22-2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Honolulu_Blue
If this is not the biggest rivalry of any sports then, what is?

1. Big, important games. Not just to the teams playing, but for the rest of the sport (play-off games, national title on the line, etc.)

2. Two teams near the top of their sport. Rivalries are their best when both teams are considered good or "great" teams. This will likely hit some peaks and valleys, but should, for the most part, be consistent.

3. The games are mainly competitive. A rivalry definitely loses some of its lustre if one team is always the favorite.

4. The teams play each other "often" (this is relative depending on the sport). Familiarity breeds contempt.

Duke/UNC Basketball.

Calis

11-22-2003, 09:48 PM

Honolulu_Blue

11-22-2003, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Radii
Duke/UNC Basketball.

Yeah, but college basketball is boring. :D

Besides, everything is decided in the tournament, regardless of what happens in the regular season. Hence, the game has less meaning.

Sorry.

mckerney

11-22-2003, 09:57 PM

Not even the biggest rivalry in college football, much less all of sports.

hollmt

11-22-2003, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle
Where are all these OSU fans at now, after the game?

Don't be those guys.

Oh, we are here. some of us were at work crying like a little baby for a little bit after the game and stomping our feet as well. I wont name any names though...

gracious in defeat, but overrated OSU is still not.

Honolulu_Blue

11-22-2003, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by mckerney
Not even the biggest rivalry in college football, much less all of sports.

Really?

Look forward to your retort, sir....

tucker342

11-22-2003, 11:01 PM

Congrats to Michigan! It's good to see Ohio State lose:D

It feels good to be the only team in the Big Ten that beat Michigan:D

Kodos

11-23-2003, 12:22 AM

This game made me happy. Thank you Michigan, but now I go back to disliking you. :)

Honolulu_Blue

11-23-2003, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by Kodos
This game made me happy. Thank you Michigan, but now I go back to disliking you. :)

We appreciate your support. Now, you can f*ck off. :D

Butter

11-24-2003, 11:23 AM

Again, congrats to UM for whipping the Bucks up front, all day long.

No pressure on Navarre + Chris Perry for 150 yards = UM in Rose Bowl.

It's well deserved. Unlike most of the Buckeye fans around here, I think USC deserved to be in the Sugar Bowl more than Ohio State, and now they will get that chance (provided the BCS doesn't screw them and they don't screw themselves vs. the Beavers).

That being said, I don't understand why so many here were rooting against Ohio St. Many other college programs have had just as many (if not more) disciplinary problems than the Bucks this year, and Ohio St. is not a program out of control. It seemed like where most people rooted for Ohio St. last year, this year they were the villains. Just confusing to me. Oh well, like or dislike whoever you want. I know all the Buckeye fans here will be watching with me and rooting for them in the Orange Bowl.

Honolulu_Blue

11-24-2003, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Butter_of_69
Again, congrats to UM for whipping the Bucks up front, all day long.

No pressure on Navarre + Chris Perry for 150 yards = UM in Rose Bowl.

It's well deserved. Unlike most of the Buckeye fans around here, I think USC deserved to be in the Sugar Bowl more than Ohio State, and now they will get that chance (provided the BCS doesn't screw them and they don't screw themselves vs. the Beavers).

That being said, I don't understand why so many here were rooting against Ohio St. Many other college programs have had just as many (if not more) disciplinary problems than the Bucks this year, and Ohio St. is not a program out of control. It seemed like where most people rooted for Ohio St. last year, this year they were the villains. Just confusing to me. Oh well, like or dislike whoever you want. I know all the Buckeye fans here will be watching with me and rooting for them in the Orange Bowl.

I can't help it. I just hate them because I was born that way (and then went to UofM for 7 years). But, I can sympathize, they are a hateable team if there ever was one.

But...

NOW, the hate is over. No more hate until around July/August of next year. No bitter taste of defeat, only the smell of roses in the air.

An interesting fact I noticed while reading about the game:

Ohio State's schedule was heavy on spread offenses throughout the season - Washington, San Diego State, Bowling Green, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Michigan State and Purdue.

I think this goes a long way explaining why OSU's defense was ranked #1 against the run coming into this game. None of those teams run the ball. The only teams who did... Wisonsin and Michigan.

Butter

11-24-2003, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Honolulu_Blue
Ohio State's schedule was heavy on spread offenses throughout the season - Washington, San Diego State, Bowling Green, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Michigan State and Purdue.

I think this goes a long way explaining why OSU's defense was ranked #1 against the run coming into this game. None of those teams run the ball. The only teams who did... Wisonsin and Michigan.

You're the only person I've really heard bring this up. I knew it. Most of my friends knew it. We played a LOT of spread teams this year. When we had to stop the run against UW (Booker Stanley sealed the game... ugh) and UM, we couldn't do it. I do think that OSU's defense was a very good bunch, but their stats were helped a lot by facing predominantly passing teams all year.

mckerney

11-24-2003, 12:38 PM

OSU = Lucky they didn't play the Gophers.

Butter

11-24-2003, 12:40 PM

Yeah, that Glen Mason really knows how to come through in the big games. :rolleyes:

Craptacular

11-24-2003, 09:33 PM

I'm guessing he was simply highlighting the fact that the Rodents averaged 293 yards/game rushing (#2 in the country). They have two tailbacks with at least 990 yards, and they average 6.1 and 6.7 ypc. Yikes!

tucker342

11-24-2003, 11:43 PM

butter, I've always hated OSU. I don't really know why, I just do. They're probably my least favorite football team in the Big Ten. Even more so then Wisconsin and Minnesota:eek:.

The last two years I've really started to hate them because:
1) Iowa has started to become really good, and when your team is good, you have to hate the other good teams in conference.
2) I can't stand the way they win(and play) it's usually effective but it's really, really annoying. The even though you play like shit every single week, you still find some way to win.

But now, since the season is over, I'm a Big Ten conference fan, and I hope that all the Big Ten teams(even Ohio State) win their bowl games!