Spurrier resigns

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[Ksyrup]

Shit, I hope this doesn't mean he's heading back to the ACC.

[rkmsuf]

What a dork...great football mind my ass...

[Ksyrup]

I wonder if $10M was worth giving up the status he had (and the legend he would have attained) at UF. It's not like he wasn't making some serious coin at UF anyway - not $5M, but not bad, either.

[Kodos]

In other news from KFFL.

Falcons | Mularkey To Be Interviewed - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:36:52 -0800

Matt Winkeljohn, of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports the Atlanta Falcons will interview Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey for the team's vacant head coaching position later this week.

I would love to see Mularkey go to Atlanta and bring Antwaan Randle El with him.

[the_meanstrosity]

I wonder if he's headed back to the college ranks. The Nebraska job is open, but I never seriously thought Spurrier would look at it with his contract in Washington. Now I'm not so certain.

[Kodos]

Bad news for cthomer.

Jets | Edwards To Extend Contract? - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 30 Dec 2003 06:19:56 -0800

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports New York Jets general manager Terry Bradway said talks have begun on a contract extension for head coach Herman Edwards, who still has two years left on his current deal.

[The_herd]

The timing is perfect to still be able to land one of the vacant NCAA jobs out there.

[rkmsuf]

After two more years the Jet players will tire of Herm's act...the Jets are just giving him free money at this point if they extend it...

[corbes]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
Shit, I hope this doesn't mean he's heading back to the ACC.

UNC message boards are positively buzzing over the possibility that they might make a run at Spurrier.

[ScottVib]

Originally posted by the_meanstrosity
I wonder if he's headed back to the college ranks. The Nebraska job is open, but I never seriously thought Spurrier would look at it with his contract in Washington. Now I'm not so certain.

I can't imagine him at Nebraska... no way he'd be able to be successful with the players that are currently in the system and it would take him awhile to be able to recruit the kind of players to go to Nebraska that he'd need to be successful.

Spurrier has also said that he can't imagine coaching any further north then Washington (he wasn't a fan of the cold in DC). If he goes back to coaching in the college ranks, it'll be someplace down south, IMO.

[JAG]

On to head coach number 5 for Danny-boy...

[Subby]

Thank god.

Maybe Snyder will get his head out of his ass and hire a coach that understands how to win in the NFC East.

[VPI97]

VPI97's Wild Speculation of the Week - Saban to Atlanta; Spurrier to Baton Rouge

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by corbes
UNC message boards are positively buzzing over the possibility that they might make a run at Spurrier.

That's been the rumor for a couple of months. I say, "Bring Back Mack!" :p

On the Jets front, not sure if it was reported here, but Cottrell was fired.

[Subby]

The Post is now reporting that Spurrier is denying that he has resigned.

[Ksyrup]

Interesting, seeing as ESPN's article says the club announced it:

"Spurrier informed team owner Dan Snyder of his decision Tuesday morning and the club announced the resignation several hours later."

[Huckleberry]

Originally posted by Subby
The Post is now reporting that Spurrier is denying that he has resigned.

Someone might want to mention that to the webmaster for the official Redskins site (http://www.redskins.com/). Their site quotes Snyder (http://www.redskins.com/story.asp?ContentID=12471) as saying he accepted the resignation.

[JeeberD]

Damn. Now the Redskins have a shot at being decent again... :(

[Wasabiak]

I've heard rumors that Linehan is out in MN and Spurrier may be in line to be OC

[Ksyrup]

What if UF loses to Iowa in the Outback Bowl? A 5 loss season for Zook, is that enough to pull the plug on him and bring Spurrier back? I know Zook was defensive coordinator for Spurrier, but hey, life full of tough choices sometimes, and if they were going to fire Zook anyway...

[Samdari]

From the Washington Post website:

"I have not resigned," Spurrier said by cellphone. "I've got a representative looking into some issues but I have not resigned. If they say that I have, that is not true. I'm not sure it is heading in that direction right now. We are seeing where it goes but I have not resigned."

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
I wonder if $10M was worth giving up the status he had (and the legend he would have attained) at UF. It's not like he wasn't making some serious coin at UF anyway - not $5M, but not bad, either.

He's already a legend at UF. Always will be. The Redskins fiasco will not change that.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
What if UF loses to Iowa in the Outback Bowl? A 5 loss season for Zook, is that enough to pull the plug on him and bring Spurrier back? I know Zook was defensive coordinator for Spurrier, but hey, life full of tough choices sometimes, and if they were going to fire Zook anyway...

They will not fire Ron Zook. Nor would I, a Spurrier fan boy, want them to.

[Ksyrup]

Wow!

I wonder if this is going to show up in a 1st year law school contracts hornbook?

[rkmsuf]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
He's already a legend at UF. Always will be. The Redskins fiasco will not change that.


But he's proving himself to be only a minor leaguer...

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by JeeberD
Damn. Now the Redskins have a shot at being decent again... :(

Like Spurrier is the sole cause of the Redskins woes.

7 of their losses this year were by 7 points or less.

Thats pretty damn good, considering the shape their offense was in. Young QB, no proven RB, most of the RB's they had were injured...

[FrogMan]

now, I'm confused... :)

From the Washington Post:

Spurrier Denies Resignation

Full Story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41721-2003Dec30.html

Clipped from the Mark Maske article:

The Washington Redskins announced the resignation of Coach Steve Spurrier today only to have Spurrier deny that he had resigned moments later.

"I have not resigned," Spurrier said by cellphone. "I've got a representative looking into some issues but I have not resigned. If they say that I have, that is not true. I'm not sure it is heading in that direction right now. We are seeing where it goes but I have not resigned."

A team source said that Spurrier's new agent, Jimmy Sexton, told the Redskins to issue the news release.

In a news release issued early this afternoon, the Redskins said Spurrier had telephoned owner Daniel Snyder and resigned "in the best interest of the Redskins franchise." In the release, Snyder said "I have accepted Steve's resignation with much regret but respect his decision."

The Redskins said in the release that they will begin their search for Spurrier's replacement immediately.

Team sources said Spurrier has informed his assistant coaches of the decision and that there had been no buyout of the remainder of his five-year, approximately $25 million contract. But Spurrier would be paid some money to cover his expenses, sources said.

Spurrier left the Washington area on Monday for his home in Florida.

[Kodos]

I enjoyed watching Spurrier suffer in Washington. I'll miss that... :(

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by rkmsuf
But he's proving himself to be only a minor leaguer...

How so?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sounds like somebody in the Redskins p.r. department let that release go out a little sooner than it was supposed to.

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Like Spurrier is the sole cause of the Redskins woes.

7 of their losses this year were by 7 points or less.

Thats pretty damn good, considering the shape their offense was in. Young QB, no proven RB, most of the RB's they had were injured...

And how much of that was due to the decisions he made as GM? He brought in some questionable players and the team has suffered...

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Like Spurrier is the sole cause of the Redskins woes.

7 of their losses this year were by 7 points or less.

Thats pretty damn good, considering the shape their offense was in. Young QB, no proven RB, most of the RB's they had were injured...

Well, he didn't help himself by chucking Stephen Davis and flip-flopping QBs on a dime last year. And when a number of players openly take issue with the lax rules, that's an issue as well.

[The_herd]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Like Spurrier is the sole cause of the Redskins woes.

7 of their losses this year were by 7 points or less.

Thats pretty damn good, considering the shape their offense was in. Young QB, no proven RB, most of the RB's they had were injured...

They were outcoached in most of those close games though. Spurrier's stubborness was one of his greatest assests in the college game, but its also one of the main reasons he's failed so far as a pro coach.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Like Spurrier is the sole cause of the Redskins woes.

7 of their losses this year were by 7 points or less.

Thats pretty damn good, considering the shape their offense was in. Young QB, no proven RB, most of the RB's they had were injured...

The Redskins have only been to the playoffs one time since 1992 (Gibbs last season).

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Kodos
I enjoyed watching Spurrier suffer in Washington. I'll miss that... :(

I enjoyed watching him in garnet and gold with an arrow on his visor. :)

[rkmsuf]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
How so?

For the dough and the rep he's been a disaster in Washington. Find any reason you want but the bottom line is 7-9 followed by 5-11...

He's nothing more than a great recruiting, good ol boy college coach...

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by The_herd
They were outcoached in most of those close games though. Spurrier's stubborness was one of his greatest assests in the college game, but its also one of the main reasons he's failed so far as a pro coach.

I can certainly agree with that in some cases. I didn't watch each game, so can't say for sure, but there were some that I thought he handled poorly.

I am suprised that people expected himt o work miracles. He never had a chance to instal his type of people. Every loss was magnified. This team was rebuilding, who seriously expected them to compete in the NFC East this year?

[rkmsuf]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
I can certainly agree with that in some cases. I didn't watch each game, so can't say for sure, but there were some that I thought he handled poorly.

I am suprised that people expected himt o work miracles. He never had a chance to instal his type of people. Every loss was magnified. This team was rebuilding, who seriously expected them to compete in the NFC East this year?

You clearly don't get out much.

The very reason the Redskins sucked was BECAUSE he brought in his people...

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by rkmsuf
For the dough and the rep he's been a disaster in Washington. Find any reason you want but the bottom line is 7-9 followed by 5-11...

He's nothing more than a great recruiting, good ol boy college coach...

He's more than that. National Champion coach, Heisman winner, long time NFL veteran.

It depends on how you look at the Washington situation. If you expected him to take that team to the playoffs last year or this year, you don't know much about the NFL.

[Robbiero67]

Actually Jeeber, Spurrier did not have full personnel control. Snyder has final say no matter what and overruled Spurrier several times. Not to support Spurrier too much, I'm not a big fan...but it isn't all his mess either.

[rkmsuf]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
He's more than that. National Champion coach, Heisman winner, long time NFL veteran.

It depends on how you look at the Washington situation. If you expected him to take that team to the playoffs last year or this year, you don't know much about the NFL.

Yeah and if you expected 12-20 than you have a very low opinion of his abilities...

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by rkmsuf
You clearly don't get out much.

The very reason the Redskins sucked was BECAUSE he brought in his people...

Thats the reason the Redskins have only been the playoffs once in 10 years?

I do agree that some of his coaching assistants were not up to par. But the talent on that team was seriously lacking. The Redskins were rebuilding and should not have been seriously expected to win a wild card, much less a division, given who is in their division.

[The_herd]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt

I am suprised that people expected himt o work miracles. He never had a chance to instal his type of people. Every loss was magnified. This team was rebuilding, who seriously expected them to compete in the NFC East this year?

They finished about where I expected them to. They have way too many holes on both sides of the ball to be a serious playoff contender. But one of the things that hurt him this season was the good start, followed by the tough losses, which magnified each of his decisions.

But as Subby alluded to earlier, he is a very poor fit for the NFC East, he would stand a much better chance of succeeding in the NFC or AFC West, where the styles of play fit his coaching better.

[rkmsuf]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Thats the reason the Redskins have only been the playoffs once in 10 years?

I do agree that some of his coaching assistants were not up to par. But the talent on that team was seriously lacking. The Redskins were rebuilding and should not have been seriously expected to win a wild card, much less a division, given who is in their division.

So explain the Cowboys success then...they weren't expected to be .500 nevermind 10-6...

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by rkmsuf
Yeah and if you expected 12-20 than you have a very low opinion of his abilities...

I didn't expect him to go 20-12 with that team. A patchwork offensive line, no running backs to speak plus a young quarterback.

He should have been given the length of his contract given what he had to work with.

[Deattribution]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Like Spurrier is the sole cause of the Redskins woes.

7 of their losses this year were by 7 points or less.

Thats pretty damn good, considering the shape their offense was in. Young QB, no proven RB, most of the RB's they had were injured...

The Redskins lost their last two home games by a combined 58-7

They were so awful against Dallas it isn't even funny. That game alone would cost anyone there job.

Most of there close losses were because of stupid decisions by the coach. The one close game they did win after there 3 wins in the beginning, he didn't even call the plays.

[rkmsuf]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
I didn't expect him to go 20-12 with that team. A patchwork offensive line, no running backs to speak plus a young quarterback.

He should have been given the length of his contract given what he had to work with.

Hello, he resigned supposedly...

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by rkmsuf
So explain the Cowboys success then...they weren't expected to be .500 nevermind 10-6...

Because of Bill Parcells.

I don't expect Spurrier to come from the NCAA and be like Bill Parcells in 2 seasons.

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
It depends on how you look at the Washington situation. If you expected him to take that team to the playoffs last year or this year, you don't know much about the NFL.

Uh...in the NFL, teams that should have no business going to the playoffs get in year after year. Look at Dallas. No one expected Dallas to make it, but that didn't stop them, did it? If anything, the "win the super bowl this year, out of the playoffs next year" parity crap that everyone thinks is great, is precisely the reason why most teams' fans have every reason to believe their team can make the playoffs in as little as two years - with the right moves. Not only did he not do that, Spurrier made a number of questionable moves, both in personnel, with team discipline, and in coaching the games. Hell, even with his specialty, the offense, he refused to stick to one type of offensive scheme and kept benching his QBs. He just flat-out blew it.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by rkmsuf
Hello, he resigned supposedly...

Hello, I know that.

The media and fans should have given him the time. But the pressure was on him from day one to take this team to the playoffs, thats just unrealistic.

[Kodos]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
I didn't expect him to go 20-12 with that team. A patchwork offensive line, no running backs to speak plus a young quarterback.

Never mind he got rid of Stephen Davis...

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Hello, I know that.

The media and fans should have given him the time. But the pressure was on him from day one to take this team to the playoffs, thats just unrealistic.

And that, as they say, is why he is (was) being paid the big bucks. Guys like him are supposed to be able to turn things around quickly. If he's not Bill Parcells, the fans, media, and a certain Napoleon-esque owner shouldn't make him out to be Bill Parcells. Regardless of what we think now, the contract says otherwise about what his supposed abilities are (were).

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
Uh...in the NFL, teams that should have no business going to the playoffs get in year after year. Look at Dallas. No one expected Dallas to make it, but that didn't stop them, did it? If anything, the "win the super bowl this year, out of the playoffs next year" parity crap that everyone thinks is great, is precisely the reason why most teams' fans have every reason to believe their team can make the playoffs in as little as two years - with the right moves. Not only did he not do that, Spurrier made a number of questionable moves, both in personnel, with team discipline, and in coaching the games. Hell, even with his specialty, the offense, he refused to stick to one type of offensive scheme and kept benching his QBs. He just flat-out blew it.

Right. But the Redskins have still only been to the playoffs once since Joe Gibbs retired.

Why would anyone seriously expect this Redskins team to compete in this division.

Once again, Dallas is coached by an NFL God in Bill Parcells. Spurrier is certainly not in that class. Bill has coached hundreds of NFL games, Spurrier has had just 32. Comparison is not valid.

[rkmsuf]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Hello, I know that.

The media and fans should have given him the time. But the pressure was on him from day one to take this team to the playoffs, thats just unrealistic.

Give me a break. That's life in the NFL...like I said he's a minor leaguer then.

There are $$$MILLIONS of reasons the fans, media and owner would have expected a winner or at least a non-increasing loss total...

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
And that, as they say, is why he is (was) being paid the big bucks. Guys like him are supposed to be able to turn things around quickly. If he's not Bill Parcells, the fans, media, and a certain Napoleon-esque owner shouldn't make him out to be Bill Parcells. Regardless of what we think now, the contract says otherwise about what his supposed abilities are (were).

So its Steve's fault that Dan Snyder was willing to give him 5 mil a year?

No one made him out to be Bill Parcells. If they did, they were morons.

[Huckleberry]

You guys can rip on him. That's fine.

I will sit here and pray that he coaches my college's team. Even if the chance is somewhere in the neighborhood of one in a billion.

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Huckleberry
You guys can rip on him. That's fine.

I will sit here and pray that he coaches my college's team. Even if the chance is somewhere in the neighborhood of one in a billion.

No one's saying he can't coach in college. Hell, if he hadn't coached at UF, I'd be praying for Bobby to step aside right about now.

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Right. But the Redskins have still only been to the playoffs once since Joe Gibbs retired.

So? Cleveland made the playoffs last year. CLEVELAND!!! The Seahawks made the playoffs this year. What's their history have to do with it?

[vtbub]

Steve Spurrier=Rick Pitino

[The_herd]

I don't think failure at the pro level should detract from his accomplishments. He remains the only coach that has managed to win at Duke and he turned Florida into a national heavyweight. The man obviously knows something about coaching, but so far it seems his style is better suited for college. There have been some good coaches that haven't made the transition, there will be many more.

[Ksyrup]

Butch Davis might be following him right back to college.

As for the Pitino comparison, assuming Spurrier's resignation is "official," at least he didn't stick around to completely ruin the team. He saw his limitations, releaized he wasn't cut out to be an NFL coach, and cut bait. For that, I applaud him. He's always said he wasn't sure if his style would work in the NFL - now he knows.

[vtbub]

You are correct, Washington is in better shape than the Celtics.

However, ego, greed, and dressing and acting like used car salesman, they are equal.

[Ksyrup]

At least Spurrier doesn't slick his hair back, like that other UF coach.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by vtbub
You are correct, Washington is in better shape than the Celtics.

However, ego, greed, and dressing and acting like used car salesman, they are equal.

Your post shows you to be moronic and small minded.

[vtbub]

Thank you Ms. Cleo!

[The_herd]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
At least Spurrier doesn't slick his hair back, like that other UF coach.

Hey now! Leave Billy Donovan out of this. He coached at Marshall, and therefore, gets a pass.:)

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by vtbub
Thank you Ms. Cleo!

:D

[vtbub]

Donovan was a Pitino ass't.

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by vtbub
Donovan was a Pitino ass't.

I know. :)

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Right. But the Redskins have still only been to the playoffs once since Joe Gibbs retired.

Why would anyone seriously expect this Redskins team to compete in this division.

Once again, Dallas is coached by an NFL God in Bill Parcells. Spurrier is certainly not in that class. Bill has coached hundreds of NFL games, Spurrier has had just 32. Comparison is not valid.

Um, how many games had Andy Reid coached before taking the Eagles job?

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by cuervo72
Um, how many games had Andy Reid coached before taking the Eagles job?

Um, did Andy Reed come straight from a 20 year college coaching career?

Um, no, he had been at the NFL level for some time, working with some very good coaches.

Apples and Oranges.

[Comey]

Edit: Nevermind...saw that the confusion over his resignation was already reported.

[Ksyrup]

And this is from an article on SI.com:


"But he called a reporter an hour later to say that he had not spoken with his agent, Jimmy Sexton, who was working on the details of his departure.

"I was caught off-guard," Spurrier said when asked about his denial. "Obviously, when a person resigns he usually calls it in himself. The bottom line is if that's what's best for everyone concerned that's what we'll do. We'll get to the bottom of it by the end of [Tuesday]."

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Comey
Edit: Nevermind...saw that the confusion over his resignation was already reported.

It was, but this is new news, that he has confirmed it.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Um, did Andy Reed come straight from a 20 year college coaching career?

Um, no, he had been at the NFL level for some time, working with some very good coaches.

Apples and Oranges.

So then college coaches coming into the NFL should for whatever reason be given more leeway than coaches with NFL experience on any level? Yeah, fans should generally buy that.

[HornedFrog Purple]

damn... it was supposed to happen after next season!

Here's hoping Snyder still doesn't get it and hires another pass-happy finesse coach and try to win in the NFC East.

June Jones is that your phone ringing?

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
Butch Davis might be following him right back to college.



Which should caution people about Saban, too. Great recruiters don't translate well in the NFL. (Could you imagine how bad Mack Brown would be in the NFL?)

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by cuervo72
So then college coaches coming into the NFL should for whatever reason be given more leeway than coaches with NFL experience on any level? Yeah, fans should generally buy that.

The contracts these guys have been getting suggests otherwise.

Speaking of which, what college coaches have come to the NFL recently and done well? I'm sure there are a couple, but my mind keeps being filled with Dennis Erickson, Butch Davis, Spurrier...are these guys worth the money?

I guess Bobby Ross got the Chargers to the SB, and of course, Jimmy Johnson, although neither of them did much after that.

Anyone got a more comprehensive list? It seems like NFL assistants are by and large the better way to go - cheaper, because the move from coordinator to head coach is a perk in and of itself, and perhaps, better, in overall performance.

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by HornedFrog Purple
June Jones is that your phone ringing?

Why in the hell would June Jones leave Hawaii? He's got a great gig as a football god at that school for resurrecting the program and he lives in HAWAII!!

[WSUCougar]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
Speaking of which, what college coaches have come to the NFL recently and done well?
Rich Brooks! :D

[Leonidas]

Looks like another example of Snyder's fine way with people. Rather than having the balls to actually fire the guy he decided to just say he resigned and leave it at that.

Yeah, Snyder is a guy I'd really like to work for if I were a hireable coach.

[Ksyrup]

I guess the money will be too much to pass up for someone, but honestly, who'd want to work for the guy? If he's really into puppets, Dave Campo's available, and I hear Callahan is on his way out...

[HornedFrog Purple]

What's Mouse Davis doing these days?

[JAG]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Hello

Die, you are an incredible Spurrier apologist. Yes, the Redskins had warts these past couple of years, many of them Snyder-inflicted (including overruling Spurrier on a few points), but it cannot be denied that Spurrier brought a lot of the Redskins' losing on himself. Let's look at a short list:

1. "They were great for me as Gators, they should be great in the NFL!" Signing Jaquez Green, Danny Woeful, and all the other Gators was a disaster for the Skins in his first year. A guy with so little NFL experience should've contacted some experienced NFL guys who could've told him exactly why these guys wouldn't make it.

2. Switching QB's round and round year one- Training camp should've sorted out the winner. Ramsey missed a bunch of time, but if the other two choices were so bad, he should've been the default winner.

3. "Pass protection? What's that?" - How can you have three Pro Bowlers on the offensive line (the same line you called 'patchwork' and not be able to figure out a blitz? It took way too many games and a visit from consultants to overcome this deficiency this year. Maybe this section should've just been titled 'offensive line mismanagement'; the Skins OL was built to run block and Spurrier refused to run the ball with any conmittment.

4. Unprepared team - Especially this year. His team was not able to make in-game adjustments, avoid mental errors (set a team record for penalties for one), make adequate game plans more often than not, and wilted numerous times in the fourth quarter indicating poor conditioning / discipline.

I won't mention dumping Stephen Davis because it would've been a poor long-term move personnel-wise and salary cap-wise to keep him.

[JAG]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
I guess the money will be too much to pass up for someone, but honestly, who'd want to work for the guy? If he's really into puppets, Dave Campo's available, and I hear Callahan is on his way out...

He could probably get himself whoever he wants, even maybe someone who would demand some control over personnel, because he's got a good combo of things working for him. He can dole out a ton of cash, he's got a decent nucleus of players in their prime to build around, the 5th overall pick in the draft to add in a top-shelf talent, and a fan base who would worship a coach who could drag these guys up from the muck. A coach winning here would probably be seen as winning in spite of Snyder which would give it even more luster, and provide a handy excuse if the guy fails. Control of personnel / staff issues and a piss poor salary cap situation, plus Danny boy himself, could cool some coaches to the job however.

[GrantDawg]

It is official. He confirms that he quit, but he didn't know it when it was announced. Leave it to the Redskins. :)

[Ksyrup]

His agent quit for him, so he didn't know it at the time he was called by the Washington Post. His agent OK'd the press release.

[GrantDawg]

Story:

WASHINGTON -- Steve Spurrier resigned as coach of the Washington Redskins on Tuesday, ending a failed attempt to bring his Fun 'n' Gun offense to the NFL.


Confirmation of the resignation came after two hours of confusion during which Spurrier was quoted as saying he had not resigned -- even though the team announced that he had. The bizarre turn of events happened because Spurrier had not been aware that the final details had been worked out between his new agent, Jimmy Sexton, and the team.


"We had a little miscommunication there," Spurrier told The Associated Press by telephone from Florida.


Spurrier said he would release a full statement later in the afternoon.


Shortly after the team's initial announcement, in a cellphone conversation, Spurrier told The Washington Post that he did not quit.


"I have not resigned. I've got a representative looking into some issues but I have not resigned," Spurrier was quoted as saying. "If they say that I have, that is not true. I'm not sure it is heading in that direction right now. We are seeing where it goes but I have not resigned."


Spurrier called Snyder on Tuesday morning and offered his resignation, according to team spokesman Karl Swanson.


"It was totally unexpected," Swanson said, and Snyder accepted it with "much regret."


Spurrier's replacement will be the fifth head coach since Redskins owner Dan Snyder bought the team in 1999.


Spurrier had three years remaining on his contract at a total of $15 million, but because he resigned he will get none of that money. It was reported earlier Tuesday that the Redskins will cover the former coach's moving expenses. Spurrier cannot coach in the league for the next three years because he'll remain under contract to Washington. However, he would be able to coach if a future NFL employer is willing to give the Redskins compensation, in the form of draft picks, cash, or both.


Spurrier's exit ends a failed attempt to bring his offense from the University of Florida to the NFL. He leaves the team three days after the Redskins finished 5-11, losing 10 of their last 12 games. His five-year, $25 million contract is the richest ever for an NFL coach.


Spurrier said repeatedly in recent weeks that he planned to return for a third season, although there was wide speculation about his future with the Redskins.


Spurrier clashed with Snyder over personnel moves, particularly the owner's decision to cut quarterback Danny Wuerffel at the end of training camp.


But Spurrier also was hurt by an inability to enforce discipline on players, especially after defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis left to become the Cincinnati Bengals' head coach.


The Redskins set a franchise record for penalties this season, and players described a lax atmosphere in which tardiness was tolerated, cell phones rang during meetings and on-field errors weren't corrected at practice.


Snyder had suggested that Spurrier's staff, the most inexperienced in the NFL and top-heavy with former Florida Gator assistants, needed an upgrade. But by contract, Spurrier had the right to hire and fire members of his staff. Spurrier also was said to be seeking added sway in roster and personnel matters, something he previously has not requested.


There is no small degree of irony in Spurrier retaining Sexton; the agent represents several prominent Redskins, among them quarterback Patrick Ramsey, offensive linemen Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas, and middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter. Sexton also has worked with Snyder extensively in the past.


Spurrier was one of the most successful offensive coaches in college history, going 122-27-1 over 12 years in Florida with a high-powered pass-oriented offense that often produced lopsided scores.


He abruptly quit the Gators in January 2002 because he wanted to try his offense in the NFL. In what he later admitted was a mistake, Spurrier brought several ex-Florida players to the Redskins for his first season, during which he went 7-9 while making five changes at starting quarterback.


Snyder provided Spurrier with plenty of offensive talent last offseason, signing receiver Laveranues Coles and upgrading the offensive line. But the season went downhill quickly, first in a series of close losses, then later in embarrassing blowouts.


The Redskins lost their last two home games by a combined 58-7.


Information from The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by JAG
Die, you are an incredible Spurrier apologist.

I said earlier int he thread that I am a Spurrier fanboy...

:D

[GrantDawg]

I'd still take him in Atlanta, as long as he allows some input on his staff hirings.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I'd still take him in Atlanta, as long as he allows some input on his staff hirings.

I think he would have a much better chance in Atlanta.

:)

Of course, having an offense helps.

Seriously, I think that Spurriers biggest mistake was his coaching staff. The loss of Marvin Lewis did not help matters this year. Wherever he goes, he will be successful. You don't keep a guy like Spurrier down for long.

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
I think he would have a much better chance in Atlanta.

:)

Of course, having an offense helps.

Seriously, I think that Spurriers biggest mistake was his coaching staff. The loss of Marvin Lewis did not help matters this year. Wherever he goes, he will be successful. You don't keep a guy like Spurrier down for long.

I think he is a good coach. Of course he would actually be a terrible fit in Atlanta, because he would convert Mike Vick into a WR. :)

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm glad somebody else said it, because Spurrier would be my top choice to replace Reeves in Atlanta.

[Kodos]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I'd still take him in Atlanta, as long as he allows some input on his staff hirings.

Perish the thought. :eek:

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I think he is a good coach. Of course he would actually be a terrible fit in Atlanta, because he would convert Mike Vick into a WR. :)

LOL.

:D

Yea, he would be tempted to throw Doug Johnson in there...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally posted by JAG
and Spurrier refused to run the ball with any conmittment.

Admittedly from the outside looking in but ... what the heck was he going to run the ball with, Candidate and/or Betts?

That's not exactly a duo that would inspire me to want to run the ball much either.

[rkmsuf]

This is amazing...maybe it's a close to Florida thing but I wouldn't hire him as a pro coach...he is a great motivator of boys and recruiter but has shown zero aptitude for the pro game.

You say he had no chance blah, blah, blah...Name some things he did right...there's not much...

[Balldog]

I would say here is Nebraska's big name coach but can you imagine the contrasting football style.

[JAG]

Heh. Excerpted from Spurrier's statement:

"I believe that the franchise is headed in the right direction."

I'm glad we found something to agree on Mr. Spurrier. :)

[ISiddiqui]

Oh Lord... please don't have Spurrier in Atlanta...

[vtbub]

He sits out next year and then goes to Notre Dame.

[Ksyrup]

Saddled by an accumulation of losses, and apparently convinced his Fun 'n' Gun offense would not succeed in the NFL no matter how long he stayed, Steve Spurrier resigned as head coach of the Redskins on Tuesday after only two seasons.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen first reported that Spurrier had opted to step down, with the coach saying his departure was "in the best interests" of the franchise.

Earlier in the day, only a few hours before the resignation, ESPN.com reported that Spurrier had retained prominent agent Jimmy Sexton to help him evaluate his contract and bring his status to a speedy resolution.

The end of Spurrier's tenure in Washington, where he was 12-20 after a highly successful college career, was clearly expedited by Sexton, who represents four of the Redskins' most prominent players and has dealt extensively with owner Daniel Snyder in the past.

Reached at his Redskins Park office, Snyder told ESPN.com he didn't plan to comment Tuesday or elaborate on a press release issued by the team. But he did say he "regrets" the failed experiment and emphasized that he had wanted Spurrier to stay.

"You know I wanted him to be successful," Snyder said. "I liked the guy. I wanted to win with him."

The club announced the departure as a "resignation" but Spurrier first told The Washington Post early Tuesday afternoon that the term did not accurately characterize his exit. He was merely parsing words, however, since he will receive none of the $15 million due him in the remaining three years of his five-year contract. Later, Spurrier acknowledged his departure was a resignation.

"Basically, [Spurrier] decided he wanted out, that he didn't want to coach there anymore, and both sides made that happen," said one source with knowledge of the inner workings of the coach's exit. "Everyone is just trying to save face. Snyder doesn't want people to think he fired the guy. Spurrier doesn't want people thinking he just walked away. You have some egos involved here, you know? But the bottom line is that, after thinking about it, Steve decided his offense wouldn't work [in the NFL]. It was like had had some epiphany or something."

Team sources said the Redskins will reimburse Spurrier for moving expenses and will pay some ancillary fees as well. It is also likely, they said, that Spurrier will receive what one source termed "a consultant transitional" payment. All of that, though, is separate from the base salary Spurrier was to have earned through the 2006 season.

So, while the two sides debate the semantics of how Spurrier came to leave, it was Sexton and Redskins counsel Norm Chirite who hammered out the details Monday night and Tuesday morning of a settlement satisfactory to the coach and the franchise.

League officials said that the matter will basically be treated as a resignation. That means Spurrier will technically remain under contract to the Redskins for three more years. Any team seeking to hire him during that time would have to compensate the Redskins with draft choices, money, or both.

That point is probably moot, sources close to Spurrier told ESPN.com, since he really has no desire to coach again at the professional level. The best bet: Spurrier will sit out for a year and do plenty of golfing -- all those conspiracy theorists in Nebraska, who phoned ESPN.com trying to connect him to the Cornhuskers' vacancy, can forget it -- and then surface in the college game for the 2005 season.

Spurrier had been purposely cryptic in recent days about his plans for the future. He told Washington-area media on Sunday he "planned to" return to the team for next season, but alluded to issues that needed to be resolved with Snyder.

Some of those issues were believed to be control over staffing and input in personnel decisions.

Club officials bristled at the term "issues" and strongly suggested Spurrier was seeking a convenient excuse and, at the end of the day, a viable exit strategy. Said one official: "Those were 'phantom issues,' that's all. Frankly, we felt he'd fight harder than he did. We just wanted him to move forward with a [shared] philosophy. To get on board. For whatever reason, he kind of threw up his hands and decided, 'Well, my system isn't a good fit for the NFL.' It's disappointing but, well, you just move ahead."

ESPN.com has learned that Spurrier met with Snyder on Sunday and expressed concerns for the first time over the viability of his offense in the NFL. He also acknowledged that he had experienced some problems with discipline.

Snyder had suggested that Spurrier's staff, the most inexperienced in the NFL and top-heavy with former University of Florida assistants, needed an upgrade. But by contract, Spurrier had the right to hire and fire members of his staff. Spurrier also was said to be seeking added sway in roster and personnel matters, something he previously had not requested, but that would not have been forthcoming.

The final arbiter on all personnel matters is Snyder, with significant input from Vinny Cerrato, the vice president of football operations who could find himself elevated at some point to general manager.

There was no small degree of irony in Spurrier's retaining Sexton; the agent represents several prominent Redskins, among them quarterback Patrick Ramsey, offensive linemen Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas, and middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter.

Sexton has often reworked clients' contracts in the past to help provide salary cap relief for Snyder and the Redskins. On Tuesday, he served the best interests of his newest client, Spurrier, while also helping the team out of sticky situation.

The Redskins will quickly initiate a search to identify who might become their fifth coach under the Snyder stewardship. One name likely to be under consideredation is former New York Giants coach Jim Fassel, suddenly a very hot commodity, and scheduled to interview Saturday for the Arizona Cardinals vacancy.




Official statement from Steve Spurrier
"I am announcing my resignation as head coach of the Washington Redskins effective today, December 30, 2003.

I thank Dan Snyder for the opportunity to coach this team for the past two years and I apologize to Redskins fans that we did not achieve a level of success that we had all hoped.

This is a very demanding job. It's a long grind and I feel that after 20 years as a head coach, there are other things that I need to do. I appreciate all the support, especially from former Redskins players in the area and again, I wish we would have come closer to the success those players enjoyed under Coach Joe Gibbs.

There are many outstanding players on the Redskins team and I wish them all the best. I'll always be pulling for the Redskins. I simply believe that this is the right time for me to move on, because this team needs new leadership. Hiring a new head coach will allow him to hire a new coaching staff and hopefully point the Redskins in the right direction.

I've enjoyed my time in Washington. Obviously, all of the losing can wear you down, but I believe that the franchise is headed in the right direction. Again, I'll always be pulling for the Washington Redskins."

[rkmsuf]

quitter...he should just golf...

he really f-d Snyder out of 10 million...he was never serious about this...

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by rkmsuf
quitter...he should just golf...

he really f-d Snyder out of 10 million...he was never serious about this...

:rolleyes:

[Ksyrup]

Now this is just piling on. Questioning his manhood? Geez, this sounds like it was written by a high school sophomore (Merrill Hoge):


When push comes to shove, it's not always about the money. All things considered, Steve Spurrier's resignation as the head coach of the Washington Redskins was the best thing for everyone involved. Remember, Spurrier already collected $10 million from the Redskins and he made plenty money while he was in Florida. This decision was about much more than dollars.

Many people attributed Spurrier's lack of success to the learning curve that goes along with being a new head coach. But this season, we watched first-year head coach Marvin Lewis turn the losing Cincinnati Bengals into playoff contenders. Meanwhile, it took Spurrier two years to drive the Redskins right into the ground. He didn't learn anything. Spurrier tried to do things his way -- the college way. Well, the college way doesn't fly in the NFL.

The NFL doesn't determine their champion by a computer, and coaches don't get to select their schedule or the easiest teams to play against. Heck, in the NFL, there are no easy teams. Spurrier never learned how to prepare in this league. He didn't even have a playbook, which is the staple of any organization. Spurrier never established a direction, and therefore his team never knew where they were going.

Ultimately, it all starts at the top, and while I'm not sure that Dan Snyder is any better, if he can get an NFL staff in place -- experienced personnel who know what it takes to win at the professional level -- the Redskins have as good a shot as any team next year. Certainly, they need to fill some holes, but they've got a lot of talent on that team as well. With the right coach to manage that personnel, some semblance of hope can be restored in Washington.

You can mask the fact that Spurrier quit by using the word "resign," but it just goes to show that if you're not a real man, the NFL will chew you up and spit you out. It doesn't matter how much money you're making, it's not worth it. You'll want to quit, and that's exactly what Spurrier did.

[rkmsuf]

He should stick to talking about the factor back...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Well, the college way doesn't fly in the NFL.


That's true Merrill.

College football is actually more than remotely interesting to watch.

[rkmsuf]

Originally posted by JonInMiddleGA
That's true Merrill.

College football is actually more than remotely interesting to watch.

*editors note-- teed up*

Clearly when you are a Falcons fan lately that is the case. Maybe MV can turn it around...

[GrantDawg]

So, he is out of the pro-biz. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't sit out another year in hopes Zook gets canned next year.

[Samdari]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
So, he is out of the pro-biz. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't sit out another year in hopes Zook gets canned next year.

The real question is: will Spurrier's new employment status be a factor in any decision to fire Zook this year?

[albionmoonlight]

Or--he could wait and take the Fla. St. job after Bobby B. retires, thereby satisfying his ego by making himself bigger than the rivalry.

[vtbub]

Notre Dame

[Eaglesfan27]

Why Notre Dame? Has Tyrone Willingham done such a bad job that Notre Dame is going to give up on him already?

[Noop]

Originally posted by albionmoonlight
Or--he could wait and take the Fla. St. job after Bobby B. retires, thereby satisfying his ego by making himself bigger than the rivalry.

That would never happen... Tally would be up at arms if he was even considered for the job.

[vtbub]

Originally posted by Eaglesfan27
Why Notre Dame? Has Tyrone Willingham done such a bad job that Notre Dame is going to give up on him already?

Yes, he hasn't been to a BCS bowl.

They'd pay Spurrier whatever he wants.

They have ego and so does he.

Think Jones and Parcells

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Samdari
The real question is: will Spurrier's new employment status be a factor in any decision to fire Zook this year?

No chance Zook gets fired this year.

That would be a bush league move. Foley has too much pride, I think.

Best bet for Spurrier would be to sit this year out, recollect himself, spend time with the family, then come back. There is a chance Zook could get fired after next year.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Noop
That would never happen... Tally would be up at arms if he was even considered for the job.

He would never be welcome in Gainesville again. I wouldn't worry about it happening.

:D

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
He would never be welcome in Gainesville again. I wouldn't worry about it happening.

:D

Welcome? Hell, if he took the FSU job, his life would probably be in danger. People think Pitino going from UK to Louisville was hard to believe, I think this one would top it.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
Welcome? Hell, if he took the FSU job, his life would probably be in danger. People think Pitino going from UK to Louisville was hard to believe, I think this one would top it.

Certainly. It would be odd. My money is on Mickey Andrews to replace Bobby when he reitres.

Terry Bowden said "I don't want to be the guy after dad. I want to be after the guy who replaced dad." or somethign to that effect.


:D

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
No chance Zook gets fired this year.

That would be a bush league move. Foley has too much pride, I think.

Best bet for Spurrier would be to sit this year out, recollect himself, spend time with the family, then come back. There is a chance Zook could get fired after next year.

I would say if Steve doesn't have a job next year, then Zook better win the SEC or he is toast.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I would say if Steve doesn't have a job next year, then Zook better win the SEC or he is toast.

I wouldn't disagree with that.

[Noop]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
I would say if Steve doesn't have a job next year, then Zook better win the SEC or he is toast.

My friend you are on to something... Also I heard he was intrested in the UNC job. Zook the Crook is the Mack Brown of the SEC...


:)

noop

[Noop]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
Welcome? Hell, if he took the FSU job, his life would probably be in danger. People think Pitino going from UK to Louisville was hard to believe, I think this one would top it.

That Wanker would never be hired cause if he is I'm going to stop being a fan till he is fired or retires.

[cincyreds]

He needs to go back to Florida.

just my 2 cents

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by cincyreds
He needs to go back to Florida.

just my 2 cents

He should have never left.

[Peregrine]

Wow, as a Redskins fan I couldn't be happier. I was excited when he was hired, but after two years of lots of talk and no new ideas, terrible team discipline, and no adapting to problems as they come up in the season, I'm ready to try somewhere else.

Now speaking as a Tarheels fan, I'd certainly be glad to give him another shot at the college level :)

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Peregrine
Wow, as a Redskins fan I couldn't be happier. I was excited when he was hired, but after two years of lots of talk and no new ideas, terrible team discipline, and no adapting to problems as they come up in the season, I'm ready to try somewhere else.

Now speaking as a Tarheels fan, I'd certainly be glad to give him another shot at the college level :)

MAKE UP YOUR MIND ALREADY!

:D

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by cincyreds
He needs to go back to Florida.

just my 2 cents

No, he needs to be in the ACC. Or even better the Pac-10.

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
No, he needs to be in the ACC. Or even better the Pac-10.

Hey, you should be begging for Spurrier to come back. You beat him once.

;)

[GrantDawg]

As a matter of fact, why don't we set this up-

Pete Carol comes to the Falcons, and SS takes his place at USC. Now there's you a plan!

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
Hey, you should be begging for Spurrier to come back. You beat him once.

;)

We should be begging for him to go back to UF, then. We beat him 8 times (9 if you count the Choke at Doak).

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by GrantDawg
As a matter of fact, why don't we set this up-

Pete Carol comes to the Falcons, and SS takes his place at USC. Now there's you a plan!

Speaking of people who have "choke" associated with him...

I know it was a one-time thing, but I've never been able to get past that classless move by Carroll way back when. Even if USC wasn't playing U of M, I'd still be rooting against him.

[Noop]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
We should be begging for him to go back to UF, then. We beat him 8 times (9 if you count the Choke at Doak).

Runs and cries a tear of joy.... Ksyrup will you be at the Orange Bowl?

[Ksyrup]

Nope. I'll be here. I try to stay far, far away from South Florida.

[Noop]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
Nope. I'll be here. I try to stay far, far away from South Florida.

Cmon man I can maybe find you free tickets if you don't mind sitting next to some Canes( I'm sitting with a very pro Cane family) Well look for me in a Garnet colored T-Shirt saying FOFC's Noop. So who do you think is going to win?


:)

noop

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by Noop
So who do you think is going to win?

If it doesn't rain, we will. :D

[Noop]

Well I will this I've been to the Hurricane practices they are more worried about their NFL Draft status then beating Florida State. If, Florida State loses again they'll have to wait awhile till they can every beat Miami.

:)

noop

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
We should be begging for him to go back to UF, then. We beat him 8 times (9 if you count the Choke at Doak).

52-20

[Noop]

Originally posted by Die Hand die Verletzt
52-20

Well we have a Gator fan in the house {Claps} The thing about that game is you should have never been there. But atleast you got that to shut up any Nole fan simply because you beat us for the M National Title. I believe no school has ever beaten their rivals for the title. You'll have to wait your next lifetime to see that again :p

J/K

[Die Hand die Verletzt]

Originally posted by Noop
Well we have a Gator fan in the house {Claps} The thing about that game is you should have never been there. But atleast you got that to shut up any Nole fan simply because you beat us for the M National Title. I believe no school has ever beaten their rivals for the title. You'll have to wait your next lifetime to see that again :p

J/K

That was among the greatest nights of my life. Itw as pretty amazing. Who else should have been there, BTW? It should have been Nebraska, but they couldn't beat Texas.

That was just our year. Danny wins the Heisman, exactly 30 years after Spurrier did. The stars were lined up just right.

[Ksyrup]

They shouldn't have been there, but honestly, we had no business winning the first game. But we did, and that should have been the end of it. But effin' James Brown and that 4th down pass...

[KWhit]

Originally posted by Noop
Cmon man I can maybe find you free tickets if you don't mind sitting next to some Canes( I'm sitting with a very pro Cane family) Well look for me in a Garnet colored T-Shirt saying FOFC's Noop. So who do you think is going to win?


:)

noop


Are you serious?

:eek:

[cthomer5000]

I'm breaking up my many responses into a series.


Spurrier's Career Opportunities
College football teams will be climbing all over each other to hire this guy. Nebraska seems like a terrible fit, so I don't see that happening. Most likely I see him taking a year off, then sorting through the stack of offers that come into him around mid-season next year. I do believe he will be coaching again in the 2005 season.

[cthomer5000]

Not-So-Quick-Aside... Herman Edwards and the New York Jets
I'm sorry to hear these rumblings of a contract extension. All year long we've heard "Fire Ted Cottrell! Fire Paul Hackett!" Ok.... we're talking about removing the offensive coordinator and/or defensive coordinator (which now has been done), but not once to I hear anyone talk about firing the head coach. The head coach should be more than deliver emotional speeches. It's his job to ensure his staff is putting his players in the best possible situation for success. That flat-out isn't happening. I dislike Edwards, and have since day one. I believe the Jets will slide for another year or two before he is removed. This team is moving backwards right now.

Edwards also had the luxury of the Chad Pennington injury. If I made a list of "Biggest Sports Misconceptions of 2003," #1 would be "The Jets stunk because Chad Pennington was injured." Nothing could be farther from the truth. As a devout Vinny Testeverde hater, I hate to admit he played very well in Chad's absence. I believe Vinny was the 6th rated QB in the league when he surrendered his temporary starting job. The Jets really lost all those games because of:

1. Butchered clock management/poor coaching decisions in key moments
2. Early in the season the offensive line either was unwilling or unable to run block. This has been *somewhat* fixed. O-line is still a major concern with this team
3. The defense did not defend. DeWayne Robertson (a pick i've been against from day 1) was absolutely terrible. When John Abraham was injured, the other 1st round bust from the year before (Bryan Thomas) was completely invisible. Upper management has some serious personnel questions to answer.

In summary, the whole Jets front office has to go.

[cthomer5000]

The Redskins are largely married to this team for another year or two, so they have to do one of two things:

1. Hire a coach who you believe can immediately get something out of the team you have. An impact, fiery, take-no-bullshit sort.

2. Start re-shaping the team to do whatever needs to be done.

For amusement purposes, I almost can't wait to see what kind of knee-jerk reaction Snyder makes here. What radical new direction will he take the team in now?

He's done the respected NFL coach thing, the hot-shot college coach... what's next, unknown assistant coach?

[Noop]

Originally posted by KWhit
Are you serious?

:eek:

Yes I'm serious... I going to try to run down a camera so i can be on T.V. I'll be the one in a cast small dreads and if i smile gold teeth. If I get on T.V. I'll give you guys a big shoutout...


:)

noop

[albionmoonlight]

Originally posted by cthomer5000
For amusement purposes, I almost can't wait to see what kind of knee-jerk reaction Snyder makes here. What radical new direction will he take the team in now?

He's done the respected NFL coach thing, the hot-shot college coach... what's next, unknown assistant coach?
For amusement purposes, I really, really, really hope that he appoints himself head coach. Really.

[cthomer5000]

my favorite Dan Snyder story, taken from a Dr Z. article on CNNSI.com:

Would we ever have heard of Daniel Snyder if he had run his Snyder Communications the way he has run the Redskins? He is no longer the NFL's new boy on the block. He's in his fifth year now, and you'd think he'd have learned something about the way a football team functions, but he still has absolutely no understanding of this unique business. He dug a tunnel under his first two coaches by going directly to the players without telling the staff. He has overruled his current coach, Steve Spurrier, on personnel decisions, making them a committee choice. It's like he hasn't learned what the game is all about. At times his decisions have been has been flat-out ridiculous.

Shortly after Spurrier fired Charley Casserly as his GM and replaced him with Vinny Cerrato, Casserly received a call from one of his old Redskins scouts.

"You're not gonna believe this," the scout said. "The owner decided that kicking field goals isn't so tough, so after practice he had Cerrato hold for him, and he tried kicking some -- in his street clothes and shoes." He quit after a few grass-skimmers.

Casserly told the story to his wife, Beverley.

"You see that?" she said. "If you were still there that would have been you holding for those kicks."

[ISiddiqui]

He's done the respected NFL coach thing, the hot-shot college coach... what's next, unknown assistant coach?

Former player? Deion calling :D.

[Subby]

The Post is reporting that the short list of possible replacements looks like this: Dennis Green, Jim Fassel and Ray Rhodes.

Of those three I would say that Rhodes is the greatest possibility as he had success here as a defensive coordinator and still has a good relationship with Snyder.

In a perfect world Snyder would focus on marketing and hand the team over to an up and coming GM...but since that isn't happening I would settle for a good NFC-East style coach like Rhodes...

[corbes]

As an Eagles fan, I would LOVE to see Ray Rhodes in Washington. That'll be 2 easy wins next year.

[Subby]

Originally posted by corbes
As an Eagles fan, I would LOVE to see Ray Rhodes in Washington. That'll be 2 easy wins next year.
Blah blah blah - quit worrying about the 'Skins and start preparing for another playoffs flameout :P

[corbes]

Originally posted by Subby
Blah blah blah - quit worrying about the 'Skins and start preparing for another playoffs flameout :P

I wish I had a snappy comeback for that. Maybe -- don't you worry, Reno Mahe will make everyone forget Brian Westbrook?

Okay, maybe not.

[Kodos]

I'd be glad to send Dave Wannstedt to Washington. Do you have an address for me?

[Franklinnoble]

As a life-long Redskins fan (and I'm pushing 30 here), I say "good riddance."

Spurrier was a clueless dolt in Washington. Period.

His first year on the job, he brings in a bunch of ex-Gators, and his offense stinks. The only reason he was 7-9 was that he had Marvin Lewis as his defensive coordinator.

His second year, he goes to training camp with serious talent upgrades all over the offense. His offense STILL stinks. And now the defense is a shambles because Lewis went to walk on water in Cincinatti.

The Redskins are LOADED with talent all over the place, with the exception of the defensive line. They didn't have many injuries this year, and there's no reason why they couldn't have been in contention for the NFC East.

Bad coaching is the only explaination.

I hope they hire Denny Green. He did a pretty solid job in Minnesota for a long time, and he's the most proven NFL coach available.

[The Afoci]

Ah, Denny Green. As a Viking fan, who ever gets him, enjoy!

[rkmsuf]

I don't have the exact quote but last year Marvin Lewis in SI said that at Spurrier's first Redskin practice he came up to him and asked what field he wanted to use for the defense.

The shmuck thought he had 100 players like in college...

Buffoon...

[Ksyrup]

SI's article about Spurrier was really an eye-opener. Marvin Lewis WAS the head coach last year. And Spurrier was glad to see him go and didn't want to replace him with someone as knowledgeable, for fear that his own lack of knowledge would be known to someone other than Lewis.

Frankly, I'm shocked that (a) Snyder didn't ask specific questions about how he'd runthe team, and (b) he didn't fire him at some point during this season.

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Originally posted by Ksyrup
SI's article about Spurrier was really an eye-opener. Marvin Lewis WAS the head coach last year. And Spurrier was glad to see him go and didn't want to replace him with someone as knowledgeable, for fear that his own lack of knowledge would be known to someone other than Lewis.

Frankly, I'm shocked that (a) Snyder didn't ask specific questions about how he'd runthe team, and (b) he didn't fire him at some point during this season.

The fire part is easy...he saved himself 15 million dollars this way...