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Grid Iron
01-08-2004, 09:33 PM
Immeditatley after Gateway computers offered $30 million in scholarships for disadvantaged student at USC & LSU to play a true national championship game, the NCAA shot it down. That is simply disgusting. Apparently, the NCAA cares more about controlling its lucrative monopoly on football money than it does students getting an education.

SAN DIEGO – Unhappy with college football's split national championship, the head of a computer company thought he could entice Southern California and LSU to play each other later this month by offering $30 million in scholarship money.

The NCAA quickly hit the "delete" button, saying there was no way such a game could be played.

Ted Waitt, chairman and CEO of Gateway Inc., which is based in Poway, offered each school $10 million in scholarships for disadvantaged students if they'd play each other the weekend of Jan. 24-25. The winner would have gotten an additional $10 million in scholarships and $1 million in Gateway products.

"Everybody wants to see it happen," Waitt said. "It'd be fun. But everybody is afraid of the NCAA. We just want to know one good reason why this can't happen."

Waitt made his proposal in letters faxed Thursday to LSU Chancellor Mark Emmert, USC President Steven Sample and NCAA President Myles Brand.

"It's just not as simple or easy as doing that," said Wally Renfro, the senior adviser to Brand. "Decisions about postseason football are made by the membership of the association. Those two institutions would not be able to make that decision in any event.

"Right now, by the bylaws, it couldn't happen."

And the NCAA wouldn't jump even with $30 million in scholarships up for grabs?

"No," Renfro said.

Besides numerous logistical problems, games aren't allowed past last Sunday, which was the date of the Sugar Bowl.

USC was No. 1 in both the AP media poll and USA Today/ESPN coaches' poll at the end of the regular season, but slipped behind No. 2 LSU and No. 3 Oklahoma in the computers and the final BCS standings because of a weaker strength of schedule.

LSU won the BCS national championship by beating Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl while USC won The Associated Press title by beating Michigan in the Rose Bowl.

finkenst
01-08-2004, 09:37 PM
Besides numerous logistical problems, games aren't allowed past last Sunday, which was the date of the Sugar Bowl.

they are following their bylaws.

If gateway really wanted to donate the $30 million, why didn't they just do it?

Oh wait, because then it wouldn't be as publicized.

-tim

SackAttack
01-08-2004, 09:48 PM
If the SEC can amend its by-laws in-season to avoid egg on their faces, what's preventing the NCAA from approving a one-time exception to the rule while the BCS is rejiggered?

Tigercat
01-08-2004, 09:49 PM
If USC really wanted to play the winner of the BCS, they should have left their first week open for next year. LSU NEEDS another game, and would jump an an opporitunity for a home and home with USC, because Virginia Tech weasled out of their Baton Rouge half of a home and home to be concluded next year. But no, who does USC schedule instead? Thats right, the same weasleing Virginia Tech team. What happened to Pete Carroll challenging the BCS winner for next year when just days after that challenge they scheduled Virginia Tech?

(Oh and I am pretty sure Oklahoma had an open spot too, not sure if they would be as open to adding one additional tough opponent to their schedule, LSU is just in the position of needing one because the one they had pulled out.)

Ragone
01-08-2004, 09:51 PM
That was one of those hollow gestures to be honest.. like when your friend offers to buy dinner after the waiter has already left with your card.. they knew it would never be taken.. Besides.. this is what would happen

whoevers team lost would still claim to be national champ cause "that game didn't really count"

Grid Iron
01-08-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by finkenst
they are following their bylaws.

If gateway really wanted to donate the $30 million, why didn't they just do it?

Oh wait, because then it wouldn't be as publicized.

-tim

I don't deny that Gateway's intention is to get publicity, but as SackAttack pointed out, there certainly isn't a prohibition to changing the bylaws--especially since it means $30 million to underprivileged students. How many bachelors degrees is that?

DanGarion
01-08-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Grid Iron

Besides numerous logistical problems, games aren't allowed past last Sunday, which was the date of the Sugar Bowl.



There was a bowl game on Sunday? The college bowl season ended once USC won the national title.

Tigercat
01-08-2004, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by dangarion
There was a bowl game on Sunday? The college bowl season ended once USC won the national title.

Not according to the national television audience. The numbers were down, and understandably, from last year, but they were still a quite higher than the Rose bowl.

Draft Dodger
01-08-2004, 09:59 PM
I DON'T want a playoff or extra game - I'm fine the way it is now.

but, I don't really understand why the NCAA doesn't want this (we all know the bylaw thing is an excuse). What is it they lose by doing this? Seriously, I'm asking

cthomer5000
01-08-2004, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Grid Iron
...especially since it means $30 million to underprivileged students. How many bachelors degrees is that?

I think 30 mill can get you about 5 bachelor degrees these days, maybe 6 if it's a state school.

Grid Iron
01-08-2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Draft Dodger
I DON'T want a playoff or extra game - I'm fine the way it is now.

but, I don't really understand why the NCAA doesn't want this (we all know the bylaw thing is an excuse). What is it they lose by doing this? Seriously, I'm asking

I supposedon't want to give any credence to the (correct and widely held) belief that the BCS system is a piece of crap. I guess it would undermine LSU's claim to the BCS title, as well as the BCS system as a whole.

Cuckoo
01-08-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Tigercat
(Oh and I am pretty sure Oklahoma had an open spot too, not sure if they would be as open to adding one additional tough opponent to their schedule, LSU is just in the position of needing one because the one they had pulled out.)

Oklahoma actually tried to schedule a home and home with USC. Both schools needed a home game in 2004 though, so it didn't work. At this point, OU's non-conference schedule is pretty weak, and they do still have one spot open.

cthomer5000
01-08-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Grid Iron
I supposedon't want to give any credence to the (correct and widely held) belief that the BCS system is a piece of crap. I guess it would undermine LSU's claim to the BCS title, as well as the BCS system as a whole.

I agree that this is probably the main reason.

Still, they probably would have had their choice of NFL venues (except Houston), and would have sold the game out in a moments notice.

It would have been fun, but I'm fine with the way the football season ended.


Deep down you know the BCS committee was pretty pissed-off that Michigan couldn't take down the Trojans.

Pumpy Tudors
01-09-2004, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by dangarion
There was a bowl game on Sunday? The college bowl season ended once USC won the national title.

Well, I'm sure you've all heard this before, and it's been attributed to Nick Saban, but I'll say it anyway:

If USC could win the national title by winning the Rose Bowl, why did they try so hard to get to the Sugar Bowl?

Personally, I don't care who wins either way, but I just love that quote.