All-Time Film Actor/Actress Draft

[WSUCougar]

Okay, given the interests of FOFC (beyond the obvious, sports), I thought it might be cool to have an all-time draft of movie talent.

This will be a 10-round, serpentine-style draft, with 12 teams to fill.

Participants, in draft order:

Splitpersonality1 (1.1) Director: Alfred Hitchcock
WSUCougar (1.2) Actor/Drama: Jimmy Stewart
NoMyths (1.3) Actor/Drama: Jack Nicholson
3Ric (1.4) Actress/Romance: Katherine Hepburn
oykib (1.5) Musical: Bing Crosby
Calis (1.6) Director: Stanley Kubrick
Karim (1.7) Actor/Action: Harrison Ford
Sloan (1.8) Director: Charlie Chaplin
Shorty3281 (1.9) Actor/Drama: Al Pacino
Barkeep49 (1.10) Actor/Drama: Robert DeNiro
Ntndeacon (1.11) Director: Billy Wilder
Sun Tzu (1.12) Actor/Action: John Wayne
---2nd Round---
Sun Tzu (2.13) Actor/Drama: Marlon Brando
Ntndeacon (2.14) Actress/Romance: Audrey Hepburn
Barkeep49 (2.15) Supporting Actor: Peter Lorre
Shorty3281 (2.16) Supporting Actor: Kevin Spacey
Sloan (2.17) Director: Steven Spielberg
Karim (2.18) Actress/Drama: Meryl Streep
Calis (2.19) Actor/Drama: Humphrey Bogart
Oykib (2.20) Actor/Action: Clint Eastwood
3Ric (2.21) Actor/comedy: Marx Brothers
NoMyths (2.22) Director: Orson Welles
WSUCougar (2.23) Actress/Romance: Marilyn Monroe
Splitpersonality1 (2.24) Actress/Drama: Elizabeth Taylor
---3rd Round---
Splitpersonality1 (3.25) Musical: Judy Garland
WSUCougar (3.26) Supporting Actor: Morgan Freeman
NoMyths (3.27) Actor/Comedy: Jack Lemmon
3Ric (3.28) Actor/Action: Steve McQueen
oykib (3.29) Supporting Actor: Robert Duval
Calis (3.30)Actor/comedy: Cary Grant
Karim (3.31) Actor/Drama: Gregory Peck
Sloan (3.32) Actress/Drama: Ingrid Bergman
Shorty3281 (3.33) Actor/Comedy: Brad Pitt
Barkeep49 (3.34) Actress/Romance: Ginger Rogers
Ntndeacon (3.35) Actress/Drama: Bette Davis
Sun Tzu (3.36) Best Supporting Actor: Anthony Hopkins
---4th Round---
Sun Tzu (4.37) Actor/Comedy: The Three Stooges
Ntndeacon (4.38) Actress/Comedy: Carole Lombard
Barkeep49 (4.39) Musical: Gene Kelly
Shorty3281 (4.40) Director: Quentin Tarentino
Sloan (4.41) Actor/Drama: Sir Lawrence Olivier
Karim (4.42) Musical: Fred Astaire
Calis (4.43) Musical: Doris Day
Oykib (4.44) Director: William Wyler
3Ric (4.45) Actress/comedy: Shirley MacLaine
NoMyths (4.46) Actor/action: Sir Sean Connery
WSUCougar (4.47) Actor/comedy: Peter Sellers
Splitpersonality1 (4.48) Actor/action: Charlton Heston
---5th Round---
Splitpersonality1 (5.49) Supporting actor: Gene Hackman
WSUCougar (5.50) Actress/drama: Nicole Kidman
NoMyths (5.51) Supporting Actor: Paul Newman
3Ric (5.52) Musical: Julie Andrews
Oykib (5.53) Actress/Romance: Grace Kelly
Calis (5.54) Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper
Karim (5.55) Actress (comedy): Lucille Ball
Sloan (5.56) Actor/action: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Shorty3281 (5.57) Actor/action: Samuel L. Jackson
Barkeep49 (5.58) Director: Akira Kurosawa
Ntndeacon (5.59) Musical: Maurice Chevalier
Sun Tzu (5.60) Director: Mel Brooks
---6th Round---
Sun Tzu (6.61) Musical: Yul Brynner
Ntndeacon (6.62) Supporting Actress: Maggie Smith
Barkeep49 (6.63) Actor/action: Errol Flynn
Shorty3281 (6.64) Actress/drama: Julia Roberts
Sloan (6.65) Supporting Actor: Benicio Del Toro
Karim (6.66) Director: Ingmar Bergman
Calis (6.67) Actress/comedy: Madelaine Kahn
Oykib (6.68) Supporting Actress: Olivia de Havilland
3Ric (6.69) Director: David Lean
NoMyths (6.70) Musical: Frank Sinatra
WSUCougar (6.71) Actress/comedy: Lily Tomlin
Splitpersonality1 (6.72) Actress/romance: Meg Ryan
---7th Round---
Splitpersonality1 (7.73) Supporting Actress: Judi Dench
WSUCougar (7.74) Actor/action: Mel Gibson
NoMyths (7.75) Actress/Drama: Ellen Burstyn
3Ric (7.76) Actress/Drama: Jodi Foster
Oykib (7.77) Actor/Comedy: Jerry Lewis
Calis (7.78) Actress/Drama: Julianne Moore
Karim (7.79) Supporting Actor: Sir Alec Guiness
Sloan (7.80) Supporting Actress: Holly Hunter
Shorty3281 (7.81)
Barkeep49 (7.82) Actor/Comedy: Walter Matthau
ntndeacon (7.83) Actor/Comedy: Buster Keaton
Sun Tzu (7.84) Actress/Comedy: Roseanne
---8th Round---
Sun Tzu (8.85) Supporting Actress: Mary Steenburgen
ntndeacon (8.86) Actor/action: Douglas Fairbanks
Barkeep49 (8.87) Rita Hayworth
Shorty3281 (8.88)
Sloan (8.89)
Karim (8.90) Actor/comedy: Steve Martin
Calis (8.91) Supporting Actress: Shelley Winters
oykib (8.92) Actress/comedy: Bette Midler
3Ric (8.93) Supporting Actor: Dustin Hoffman
NoMyths (8.94) Jessica Lange
WSUCougar (8.95) Musical: James Cagney
Splitpersonality1 (8.96) Actor/Drama: Sidney Poitier
---9th Round---
Splitpersonality1 (9.97) Actor/comedy: Gene Wilder
WSUCougar (9.98) Supporting Actress: Sigourney Weaver
NoMyths (9.99) Actress/comedy: Renee Zellweger
3Ric (9.100) Supporting Actress: Anjelica Huston
Oykib (9.101) Actor/Drama: Denzel Washington
Calis (9.102) Actor/Action: Sylvester Stallone
Karim (9.103) Actress/Romance: Sophia Loren
Sloan (9.104)
Shorty3281 (9.105)
Barkeep49 (9.106) Actress/comedy: Claudette Colbert
ntndeacon (9.107) Supporting Actor: Walter Huston
Sun Tzu (9.108)
---10th Round---
Sun Tzu (10.109)
ntndeacon (10.110) Actor/drama: Spencer Tracy
Barkeep49 (10.111) Supporting actress: Marcia Gay Harden
Shorty3281 (10.112)
Sloan (10.113)
Karim (10.114) Supporting Actress: Annette Bening
Calis (10.115) Actress/romance: Greta Garbo
Oykib (10.116) Actress/drama: Jane Fonda
3Ric (10.117) Actor/drama: Tom Hanks
NoMyths (10.118) Actress (Romance): Asia Carrera
WSUCougar (10.119) Director: John Ford
Splitpersonality1 (10.120) Actress/comedy:Whoopi Goldberg
---END---

Judges:

BishopMVP
GoldenScribeGuy
Coffee Warlord

Categories & Who's Been Drafted:

Actor (drama):
Jimmy Stewart (WSUCougar), Jack Nicholson (NoMyths), Al Pacino (Shorty3281), Robert DeNiro (BarKeep49), Marlon Brando (Sun Tzu), Humphrey Bogart (Calis), Gregory Peck (Karim), Sir Lawrence Olivier (Sloan), Sidney Poitier (SplitP), Denzel Washington (oykib), Spencer Tracy (ntndeacon), Tom Hanks (3Ric)

Actor (action):
Harrison Ford (Karim), John Wayne (Sun Tzu), Clint Eastwood (oykib), Steve McQueen (3Ric), Sir Sean Connery (NoMyths), Charlton Heston (SplitP), Arnold Schwarzenegger (Sloan), Samuel L. Jackson (Shorty3281), Errol Flynn (Barkeep49), Mel Gibson (WSUCougar), Douglas Fairbanks (ntndeacon), Sylvester Stallone (Calis)

Actor (comedy):
Charlie Chaplin (Sloan), Marx Brothers (3Ric), Jack Lemmon (NoMyths), Cary Grant (Calis), Brad Pitt (Shorty3281), The Three Stooges (Sun Tzu), Peter Sellers (WSUCougar), Jerry Lewis (oykib), Walter Matthau (Barkeep49), Buster Keaton (ntndeacon), Steve Martin (Karim), Gene Wilder (SplitP)

Actress (drama):
Meryl Streep (Karim), Elizabeth Taylor (SplitP), Ingrid Bergman (Sloan), Bette Davis (ntndeacon), Nicole Kidman (WSUCougar), Julia Roberts (Shorty3281), Ellen Burstyn (NoMyths), Jodi Foster (3Ric), Julianne Moore (Calis), Jane Fonda (oykib)

Actress (romance):
Katherine Hepburn (3Ric), Audrey Hepburn (ntndeacon), Marilyn Monroe (WSUCougar), Ginger Rogers (Barkeep49), Grace Kelly (oykib), Meg Ryan (SplitP), Sophia Loren (Karim), Greta Garbo (Calis), Asia Carrera (NoMyths)

Actress (comedy): Carole Lombard (ntndeacon), Shirley MacLaine (3Ric), Lucille Ball (Karim), Madelaine Kahn (Calis), Lily Tomlin (WSUCougar), Roseanne (Sun Tzu), Bette Midler (oykib), Renee Zellweger (NoMyths), Claudette Colbert (Barkeep49), Whoopi Goldberg (SplitP)

Actor/actress (musical):
Bing Crosby (oykib), Judy Garland (SplitP), Gene Kelly (Barkeep49), Fred Astaire (Karim), Doris Day (Calis), Julie Andrews (3Ric), Maurice Chevalier (ntndeacon), Yul Brenner (Sun Tzu), Frank Sinatra (NoMyths), James Cagney (WSUCougar)

Supporting Actor:
Peter Lorre (Barkeep49), Kevin Spacey (Shorty3281), Morgan Freeman (WSUCougar), Robert Duval (oykib), Anthony Hopkins (Sun Tzu). Gene Hackman (SplitP), Paul Newman (NoMyths), Chris Cooper (Calis), Benicio Del Toro (Sloan), Sir Alec Guiness (Karim), Dustin Hoffman (3Ric), Walter Huston (ntndeacon)

Supporting Actress: Maggie Smith (ntndeacon), Judi Dench (SplitP), Holly Hunter (Sloan), Mary Steenburgen (Sun Tzu), Shelley Winters (Calis), Jessica Lange (NoMyths), Sigourney Weaver (WSUCougar), Anjelica Huston (3Ric), Marcia Gay Harden (Barkeep49), Annette Bening (Karim), Olivia de Havilland (oykib)

Director:
Alfred Hitchcock (SplitP), Stanley Kubrick (Calis), Billy Wilder (ntndeacon), Steven Spielberg (Sloan), Orson Welles (NoMyths), Quentin Tarentino (Shorty3281), William Wyler (oykib), Akira Kurosawa (Barkeep49), Mel Brooks (Sun Tzu), Ingmar Bergman (Karim), David Lean (3Ric), John Ford (WSUCougar)

[3ric]

I'm in!

[NoMyths]

I'm in.

[BishopMVP]

I thought about this, but figured it would be more interesting to do movie characters rather than the actors themselves. For instance, choose Kazaam instead of Shaq. I'm too busy the next couple days, but good luck.

[JAG]

I hope people who haven't seen The Usual Suspects are not reading this thread.

[GoSeahawks]

I hope people who haven't seen The Usual Suspects are not reading this thread.
No kidding. Way to give away the ending :D

[NoMyths]

Bah...there's a year grace period on twist endings, but after that it's fair game. ;)

[Calis]

This sounds like a good one for debating..count me in.

[SplitPersonality1]

I am soooooo in this thing.

Great idea WSUCougar.

[Barkeep49]

I'd love to participate.

[ntndeacon]

I want in for this!!

[Primal]

Whos going to pick Shaq for best actor?

[ntndeacon]

Shhh I was planning on Steel for best movie!

[WSUCougar]

Ok, six participants so far.

I had a follow-up idea: if we get more than 10 interested folks, the ones who don't get randomly selected can be analysts of the selections and then judges for the best overall team. An FOFC Film Academy, of sorts. :D

[BishopMVP]

I couldn't do a snake draft, but I'd love to judge.

[Vince]

Heh, I was thinking about this. I don't want to participate, I have too much on my plate already with the baseball, football and video game drafts. But I'll be following along closely :)

[GoldenScribeGuy]

Ok, six participants so far.

I had a follow-up idea: if we get more than 10 interested folks, the ones who don't get randomly selected can be analysts of the selections and then judges for the best overall team. An FOFC Film Academy, of sorts. :D
As the resident movie expert in FOFC-land, I will like to become the charter member of the FOFC Film Academy.

[Sloan]

I'm in if there is still room.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'll be on the board of directors for the FOFC Film Academy. GSG is of course, the chairman.

[WSUCougar]

I'm in if there is still room.
Yup. We'll have a random selection of the 10 if we get more than 10 entrants.

[Bubba Wheels]

I be in!!

[WSUCougar]

Bump for the evening crowd and my native West Coasters

[Barkeep49]

BTW I would much prefer a comedic actor and actress (seperate) with one gender neutral category for supporting.

Also I think we should get rid of drafting movies. That seems like a different draft. Perhaps add another director? Worse actor/actress? Child actor/actress? Keep the seperate categories for supporting?

[Karim]

I think the Best Pictures category should be expanded to at least 3, if not 5. There are just too many genres to narrow it down.

I'm in as long as we're given a decent time frame to get our votes in; I'm only at the computer late in the evenings.

[oykib]

Me. Me! ME!!!

I want in.

[corbes]

I'll either draft, or be on the Peanut Gallery Committee.

This sounds fun.

[Sun Tzu]

You can count me in. :)

[WSUCougar]

Updated.

Anyone else want to comment on Barkeep49's suggestions for categories?

Edit: I kind of like the idea of Worst Actor/Actress.

[Sun Tzu]

I agree with him regarding taking out movies. That should be an entirely different draft in itself, possibly with all of the movies broken up into categories.

I like the idea of child actor/acctress. Worst actor/actress I don't like though, unless we had to choose a horrible acting job from a major motion picture. There have been thousands of horrible acting jobs in B movies that nobody has seen. So including a worst category would probably just result in people drafting a person nobody has heard of in a movie that 5 people saw.

Seperating actor/actress for comedic role is also a good idea. Keep one director though.

[Sun Tzu]

Also another idea for a category would be "actor/actress in musical". Musicals have died off a bit as of late, with the one exception being Chicago. But I can think of at least 10 combined actors/actresses who are deserving of being including in this draft.

[WSUCougar]

Okay, we've got our group. Since the number of participants is close to the target, lets go with 12 teams and 3 judges. I will add myself to the panel of the judges for commentary, but will only cast a final vote in the event of a 3-way tie.

I'll post the draft order in the initial post up top once we finalize our categories.

[Sun Tzu]

Here is my proposal for final categories -

Actor (drama)
Actor (action)
Actress (romance)
Actress (drama)
Actor (comedy)
Actress (comedy)
Actor/Actress (musical)
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Director

10 categories

I do have one question. Are we selecting people based on a single role? For example "I select so and so from the movie blah blah". Or are we selecting people just overal based on their careers.

[Barkeep49]

I like Sun Tzu's categories alright except I would much prefer
Supporting Actor/Actress
Child Actor

There are, in my mind at least, simply not enough "great" Supporting Actors/Actresses simply because if they're great they normally become a lead.

I was under the impression that we were selecting a body of work and not a single performance. Seems to easy if we do single performance.

[WSUCougar]

My intention was for their body of work, not one specific role or film.

Personally, I think there is plenty of room for both supporting actor & actress, so let's keep that a separate category (sorry, Barkeep ;)).

My revised proposal for categories:

Actor (drama)
Actor (action)
Actor (comedy)
Actress (drama)
Actress (romance)
Actress (comedy)
Child Actor
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Director

[Sun Tzu]

Looks good to me. As long as everybody else is ok with it, and I don't see why they wouldn't be, I say lets roll.

btw I plum forgot to include child actor

[Sloan]

Looks good to me

[NoMyths]

Looks fine to me.

[corbes]

what's the age range on "child actors"?

[WSUCougar]

what's the age range on "child actors"?How about pre-teen?

[Sun Tzu]

I guess when they hit the teen years? Maybe 14-15?

*Edit* that's what I meant. Once they hit the teens they are no longer child actors.

[NoMyths]

Being as how there have only been a handful of actors/actresses nominated for Academy Awards that weren't at least in their 20's, I'd suggest 18+ as a good cutoff for child acting. I realize that might not sit well with some of our younger folks around here, but hey...I honestly can't think of anyone under 12 who deserves any kind of acting award for a body of work.

[Sun Tzu]

mmk. I agree with that logic after hearing NoMyths say it.

[corbes]

under 18 when they made their first movie? or under 18 now?

[Sun Tzu]

First movie.

[NoMyths]

Either, actually.

[NoMyths]

dola...

That said, there are exceptions. Jodie Foster was under 18 when she made her first film, and she has been critically acclaimed since then. I'm more referring to our current crop of under 18 actors.

[NoMyths]

dola tres...

I suppose, in the end, I'm just not a fan of child acting as a category after all. :)

[Sun Tzu]

I agree again with Myths. When do you plan to get this thing rolling Cougar?

[corbes]

dola...

That said, there are exceptions. Jodie Foster was under 18 when she made her first film, and she has been critically acclaimed since then. I'm more referring to our current crop of under 18 actors.

that's what I mean. Not to be a spoiler (and this really shouldn't be a spoiler) but what about someone like River Phoenix? Macaulay Culkin?

[corbes]

dola-

I really like the idea of this, but the ice and snow in Philadelphia has really affected my schedule, and I can't promise that I'll have the time to commit to this, so I'll have to bow out early.

I'll be checking in on the results, though...

[Sun Tzu]

I would consider both Phoenix and Caulkin child actors.

[BreizhManu]

I would consider both Phoenix and Caulkin child actors.

Have you seen River Phoenix in "My own private idaho" ? That's not what I call a child actor.

[NoMyths]

Macaulay Culkin...that's pretty funny. :)

Aside from River Phoenix and a small handful of other folks, the pool for kid actors is pretty thin. And we've got twelve drafters.

[Sun Tzu]

Have you seen River Phoenix in "My own private idaho" ? That's not what I call a child actor.

Stand By Me. The Explorers.

[ntndeacon]

I am not really in favor of a child actor category either

[BreizhManu]

Stand By Me. The Explorers.

What I meant : He is not just a child actor, while Mackauley Culkin is (and a crappy one).

[WSUCougar]

I'd like to get started tomorrow.

How about a duel category for musical/child actor/actresses?

[Sun Tzu]

I understand, but you could make the arguement that he is best remembered (at least in some eyes) as that tough kid in Stand By Me. If the child actor category is going to cause any sort of contreversy then I guess we should elinimate it. Bah

[NoMyths]

One movie shouldn't a draft pick make. :)

[BreizhManu]

Oh and about the child actor, I do think it's a bad idea since the draft pool is tiny (well at least when looking for good ones) can't think of more than 4-5 who would be decent in the list and the teams choosing them would become immediate contenders.

BTW : would Kirsten Dunst fit into the list ?

[NoMyths]

She would, but she's only been good in one film.

[korme]

I will take corbes spot.

[BreizhManu]

She would, but she's only been good in one film.

I like her in 2 (itw with a vampire and drop dead gorgeous)

[Bubba Wheels]

I would love to take part in this, but duty calls, so someone will have to take my place. Breaks my heart that I will not be able to nominate William Shatner in the greatest dramatic actor department ;o

[Sun Tzu]

Anybody up for replacing ol' bubba?

[korme]

I can't wait to draft Mariah Carey for best actress.

;)

[Sun Tzu]

What category would Howard the Duck fall under?

:p

[oykib]

If you pick an actor as your child actor, we could just consider their under 18 body of work.

[Karim]

I nominate losing the Child Actor category.

[korme]

Seconded

[3ric]

"Thirded"

[oykib]

I disagree. The Child Actor category is one of the true tests of the true film buff. Will you waste an early pick to get a guarunteed winner, or do you have faith in your ability to find the rare gem and not get stuck with one of the Spy Kids?

[WSUCougar]

Draft choices and current two rounds will be kept in the first post of this thread.

I'll try to keep it updated, with the current team highlighted in green. PMs to inform the next team are recommended.

Participants, in draft order:

Splitpersonality1
WSUCougar
NoMyths
3Ric
oykib
Calis
Karim
Sloan
Shorty3281
Barkeep49
ntndeacon
Sun Tzu
Judges:<O:p</O:p

BishopMVP<O:p</O:p
GoldenScribeGuy<O:p</O:p
Coffee Warlord<O:p</O:p

Categories:

Actor (drama)
Actor (action)
Actor (comedy)
Actress (drama)
Actress (romance)
Actress (comedy)
Actors/actress (musical)
Supporting Actor
Supporting Actress
Director

Soft 24 hour deadline.

Splits, you are on the clock!

[Sun Tzu]

LAST PICK? That's it, I quit. :)

At least this means I get back-to-back picks. Ben Afleck & Jennifer Lopez = dynamic duo.

[WSUCougar]

LAST PICK? That's it, I quit. :)

At least this means I get back-to-back picks. Ben Afleck & Jennifer Lopez = dynamic duo.
LOL. I'd almost prefer your slot to mine. I'll get a "blue chip" at 1.2, but then it's the Bataan Death March until my next pick.

[SplitPersonality1]

First pick. FIRST PICK ?!?

No pressure or anything. Yikes.

After reading the videogame charcacter draft debacle and waiting for GoldenScribeGuy's scathing comments, I'm not sure the first pick is a good thing.

Pick number one will be up shortly.

[WSUCougar]

Bette Midler's available.

[rkmsuf]

Dustin Diamond?

[3ric]

*subliminal voice*Corey Feldman,Corey Feldman,Corey Feldman,Corey Feldman...*/subliminal voice*

[Maple Leafs]

Dig Dug!

(Oops, sorry, my mistake...)

[Barkeep49]

Dustin Diamond?
Why did you have to ruin my pick for Director? His work on Dustin Diamond Teaches Chess was unlike anything else....

[rkmsuf]

Why did you have to ruin my pick for Director? His work on Dustin Diamond Teaches Chess was unlike anything else....

Yes, yes. He finally moved out from under Mr. Belding's shadow with his work there...

Sorry I thought it was obvious...

[WSUCougar]

*reaches for emergency red DELETE THREAD button*

:D

[SplitPersonality1]

With the #1 pick in the AllTime Film Actors/Actresss draft is.....Actor (drama) - Corey Feldman.....not!

The actual pick is Director - Alfred Hitchcock.

Let the flaming begin.

[Barkeep49]

A solid choice for #1. I don't think he would have been my #1 (and possibly not even my #1 director) but a good start to this draft I think.

[SplitPersonality1]

Rear Window, Psycho, Vertigo, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Strangers on a Train etc.

I figure, with that resume and the fact that he is one of the most copied directors out there (Brian DePalma has made a career out of mimicing Hitchcock.), he made a solid choice a #1.

Plus, I can only think of a handful of possible directors I would pick, but have a long list in all the other categories.

[rkmsuf]

If Steve Guttenberg doesn't go this is a total farce...

[WSUCougar]

Nice pick, Splits. It sets an early tone for the draft.

I really hate drafting this high (I know, cry me a river), but it sort of forces my hand. I have to close my eyes and pull the trigger on the actor who is considered by many to be the best ever. At the very least, he set the bar for all who follow.

Actor/Drama: Jimmy Stewart

NoMyths is on the clock.

[SplitPersonality1]

Jimmy Stewart. Are you kidding me? Over Corey Feldman, What's wrong with you. You must be some kind of fool for picking him.

Sorry, just read most of the videogame character thread and I needed to vent.


Solid pick Coug. Definately in my top 3 for actors. There is a slim chance that my other actors will fall to the end of round 2. A very slim chance.

[Barkeep49]

I have to admit that Jimmy Stewart wasn't even on my draft board so I will agree (with a slightly different tone) that he was a great pick :D

[SplitPersonality1]

If anyone needs help with thier picks, go to the following website. It will both amaze and frighten you.

hxxp://www.theboxset.com/topten.php?list_id=41

[Coffee Warlord]

<b>CW's Not As Scathing As GSG, But Still Possibly Brutal, Draft Analysis</b>

<b>1.1 - Alfred Hitchcock, SP</b>
No arguments here. A truly legendary director, worthy of the #1 overall pick. <b>A</b>

<b>1.2 Jimmy Stewart, WSUCougar</b>
It's certainly not a bad pick. Not one I would have gone for, but JS is certainly a quality guy to have on your roster. Personally though, I think putting Stewart as the top actor of the draft is a smidge much. <b>B-</b>

<b>1.3 - Jack Nicholson, NoMyths</b>
My personal list of top 5 acting talent included good old Jack. He's a beast, and I have no problems with him going this early. <b>A</b>

<b>1.4 - Katharine Hepburn, 3ric</b>
Great actress, way too damn early to take her off the board. I would have bet money she'd be available to 3ric in the 2nd. On the plus side, she will likely be one of the best choices among the Actresses, but still. Way too friggen early to take her off the board. <b>C</b>

<b>1.5 - Bing Crosby, oykib</b>
Sorry man, but no. Fifth overall selection, and you went with an obscure great. Don't get me wrong, Crosby is above and beyond the top man for his category, but this is far too early to be taking him.<b>D+</b>

<b>1.6 - Stanley Kubrik, Calis</b>
50/50 on this one. Good director, probably among the top 5 I'd have listed. However, there are at least 2 directors still out there I'd choose over Kubrik.
Solid, but not excellent pick. <b>B+</b>

<b>1.7</b>

<b>1.8 - Charlie Chaplin, Sloan</b>
Hmm. For some reason, I just can't get excited about this pick. Don't get me wrong, CC is a very solid choice, but for director slot? I just...don't know. There are better directors out there. Chap is better suited for the Comedy role, as the throwback legend. <b>B-</b>

<b>1.9 - Al Pacino, Shorty</b>
I've been waiting for him to go for a few picks now. When I was kicking back thinking of actors I'd want, he was among the top of my picks. There is, however, one particular actor in the same slot who I'd take before Pacino, which is why I have to drop the grade slightly. Good pick, though. <b>A-</b>

<b>1.10 - Robert Deniro, Barkeep</b>
As much as I like Deniro, I don't think I'd take him right now. Not hugely overrated, but still, I think better value could have been had. A servicable pick, rather than a power pick. <b>B</b>

<b>1.11 - Billy Wilder, ntndeacon</b>
Top notch credentials, and bonus points for a pick I didn't expect (that still deserves going in round 1). I'm still looking for one, possibly two huge directors to go, and am very surprised neither of them have been taken, especially with this many directors being snagged. Matter of taste perhaps, but I feel there's a brighter star to be snapped up.<b>B-</b>

[BreizhManu]

If anyone needs help with thier picks, go to the following website. It will both amaze and frighten you.

hxxp://www.theboxset.com/topten.php?list_id=41

I agree, it really scared me (unless you're high on crack no one can select wesley snipes as one of the top 10 actors)

[GoldenScribeGuy]

Well, well, well. Finally.

The perfect thread for someone with my expertise and exquisite taste.


GSGs analysis through Round 1 – Pick 10.

1.1 Alfred Hitchcock – Director (SplitPersonality1)
Hitchcock as #1 overall pick? A bit of a reach I think. Don’t get me wrong, he was a great director and was quite influential. However there are a couple of other directors that rank right up there. Also, if you can only think of a “handful” of directors, then you probably have no business being in this draft.

Also, the Corey Feldman bit wasn’t funny when 3ric mentioned him in post #79. Leave the humor to the professionals boys. Don’t quit your day jobs.


1.2 Jimmy Stewart – Best Actor – drama (WSUCougar)
Of all the thousands of dramatic actors that have been in film, you pick Jimmy Stewart. Hmmmm. You do realize that every comedian and impressionist in the last 50 years has mimicked his voice, right? Even Carrottop has done Jimmy Stewart. *shudder*.

He was a great actor of course, (he would make my top ten list), but maybe a bit of a stretch this early in the draft.


1.3 Jack Nicholson – Best Actor: Drama (NoMyths)
Where do I start……Whenever I get into a discussion with other people regarding the talents of modern Hollywood actors and actresses, I always get into a screaming match regarding the abilities of one guy..…you guessed it. Jack Nicholson. In my opinion, he is ......

Moderately over-rated!!!! (before I get slammed too hard, notice I did not say ‘highly’ overrated.)

He is a good actor. That’s it. Just good. He has been exceptional in a handful of roles, and has just gone through the motions in many more. Examples.

Jack Nicholson in “Cuckoo’s Nest” was simply amazing.
Jack Nicholson in “Batman” was simply average.
Jack Nicholson in “The Shining” was the highlight of the film (overrated film BTW)
Jack Nicholson in “The Witches of Eastwick” was dreadful. – granted, he didn’t have much to work with.
Jack Nicholson is “As Good As it Gets” was….well, I really didn’t care for the movie, so let’s just say I was less than impressed.

Nicholson is a good comedic actor, but not on my top ten. He is a good dramatic actor, but not on my top ten. I think that he is just too darned inconsistent to deserve the #3 pick overall. In a nutshell, I think you blew it NoMyths.


1.4 Katherine Hepburn – Best Actress: Romance (3ric)
I absolutely love Katherine Hepburn on film. She was an amazing talent, starring in more than 50 films spanning eight decades. Although I have not seen all of her movies, I can safely say that I have never seen her do poorly in a film. (Checking IMDB, I’ve seen more than twenty of them. Good grief, I think I need to get out more.)

However.

Best Actress: Romance ???

“The African Queen” could be considered a romance, I guess; and “The Rainmaker” definitely falls into that category. But, I guess, I tend to remember her for roles like Eleanor of Aquitaine in “Lion in Winter” and other dramatic roles in movies like “On Golden Pond” and “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner”.

I am agreeing with WSUCougar here. IMO, it’s a great pick; wrong category.


1.5 Bing Crosby – Musical (oykib)
[Question for Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon fans: Alfred Hitchcock to Bing Crosby]

I hate to disappoint Coffee Warlord in my role as an evil, mean, scathing critic, but I think this is an inspired pick. When I saw that the Musical category was going to be included, Bing’s name was the first that came to mind. In fact, without a lot of thought, it was the only name that came to my head.

The analogy to shortstops in baseball is quite apt. There are many good actor/actresses who have starred in musicals; but only one great one. I am curious to see what other names will get thrown out in this category.

Would I have picked him #5 overall? Probably not, but I really do like this selection.

[Answer: One Degree. Bing Crosby was an uncredited voice in the Alfred Hitchcock film “Rear Window”]


1.6 [font=Times New Roman]Stanley Kubrick – Director (Calis)[/font]
Personally, I think Kubrick is a very hit or miss director. For every “2001: A Space Odyssey” and “Full Metal Jacket” there is an “Eyes Wide Shut” and a “Killer’s Kiss”.

What, never heard of “Killer’s Kiss”. Here is the promotional tagline from this 1955 piece of craptaculousness.

[b]“Her Soft Mouth Was the Road to Sin-Smeared Violence!”[/b]

Aargh. I’ve seen this film. It was very painful to watch. Film-noir at it’s worst.

Despite the comments above, I do think Kubrick was a very talented director. I just think that his “vision” didn’t always mesh with the rest of us. ([color=black]In other words, I think he was a nut job. A very, very talented nutjob).[/color]

Is he in my top ten list of directors. Yes. Second-best overall. No. Should he have gone 6<SUP>th</SUP> in the draft. Heck no.


[b]1.7 Harrison Ford – Actor: Action (Karim)[/b]
[font=Times New Roman]Harrison Ford is one of those guys that is comfortable in just about any setting. He excels as an action hero (Indiana Jones & Hans Solo) and does very well in dramas (“Witness”, “Clear & Present Danger” etc.). Personally, I think he was amazing in “Frantic”, and was the best thing about “Air Force One”. However, he needs to stay away from Romances. “Working Girl”, “Sabrina” and “Six Days & Seven Nights” were not very good.[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Although a versatile actor, I do think he is at his best in action films. His turn as Richard Kimble in “The Fugitive” was excellent.[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]IMO, Harrison Ford is a decent pick in this category. He would not have been my first choice, and definitely not #7 overall, but I have him in my top ten for action heroes.[/font]
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[font=Times New Roman][size=3][b]1.8 Charlie Chaplin – Director (Sloan)<O:p</O:p[/b][/size]
[size=3]I really want to like this pick. You are correct in every thing you say about Chaplin. He was an amazing individual that excelled in multiple areas. This pick shows me that you know your stuff when it comes to film history. However, you said it yourself:<O:p</O:p[/size]
[size=3][QUOTE=Sloan]My first pick is probably most known for his work as a comedic actor... [/QUOTE]<O:p</O:p[/size]
[size=3]Which is why, you should have chosen him in the Actor: Comedy slot.<O:p</O:p[/size]

[size=3]To use another baseball analogy; Babe Ruth was an excellent pitcher. He had a high win percentage and won a couple of World Series games. Some argue that he may have gotten into the Hall of Fame based on pitching alone. (debatable, but I digress). However, when stacked up against all-time pitchers, he is maybe top-100. Maybe. As a hitter of course, he is simply one of the best of all-time.[/size]

[size=3]<O:p[/size][size=3]Charlie Chaplin as a comedic actor is easily a top 5 pick. As a director, while good, I think he gets a bit lost in the crowd.[/size]

[size=3][font=Times New Roman][edit] Chaplin has been moved to the Actor: Comedy slot<O:p</O:p[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Times New Roman]Good move. Chaplin is easily a top 5 guy in this category. A true comedic genius is his or any other era.<O:p</O:p[/font][/size]



[font=Times New Roman][b]1.9 Al Pacino –Actor: Drama (Shorty3281)<O:p</O:p[/b][/font]
<O:p<O:p[color=black][size=3][font=Times New Roman]1972 - “The Godfather”, 1973 - “Serpico”, 1974 - “The Godfather – pt 2”, 1975 - “Dog Day Afternoon. Wow. Four years, four movies, four outstanding performances. His performance in “…And Justice For All” was as good as the previous films, but I don’t think he ever achieved that level of quality again and that was in 1979. He is still riding the wave from these movies and rightfully so.<O:p</O:p[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Times New Roman]Don’t get me wrong; he was very good in “Scarface”, “Carlito’s Way”, “Donnie Brasco” & “Heat”, but he has had a few misses along the way as well. (“Author, Author”, “The Devil’s Advocate” etc. What was his agent thinking?) In all fairness, the “misses” were more the fault of a bad script than Pacino’s acting ability.<O:p</O:p[/font][/size]

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[size=3][font=Times New Roman]Overall, a solid pick. There are a couple of actors that I would have picked ahead of him, but it is just a personal preference kind of thing; not a slam on this pick.<O:p</O:p[/font][/size]



[b]1.10 Robert DeNiro - Actor: Drama (Barkeep49)<O:p</O:p[/b]
<O:p<O:p[size=3][font=Times New Roman]I see a lot of parallels between Pacino & DeNiro.[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=Times New Roman]Like Pacino, he had an amazing run of films in the seventies; “Mean Streets”, “Godfather – pt 2”, “Taxi Driver”, “Deer Hunter” & “Raging Bull”. And like Pacino, I think his performances in the last 20 years or so are not as good. Again, not bad, just not at the same stellar level. His role as Jake LaMotta in “Raging Bull” was simply awesome and I don’t think he will ever top it.[/font][/size]
[size=3][font=Times New Roman]<O:p[/font][/size]
[size=3][font=Times New Roman]*Editorial side-comment: I don’t really know what to think of his recent roles in comedies. On the one hand, it is interesting and quite funny to see DeNiro in a comedy. On the other hand, he seems to be doing two-dimensional versions of his dramatic characters. It’s nice to see this other side of Robert DeNiro, but I hope that he sticks to drama, it is what he does best.*[/font][/size]
[size=3][font=Times New Roman]<O:p[/font][/size]
[size=3][font=Times New Roman]You should be very familiar with these next sentences: Overall, a solid pick. There are a couple of actors that I would have picked ahead of him, but it is just a personal preference kind of thing; not a slam on this pick.<O:p</O:p[/font][/size]

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[b]1.11 Billy Wilder – Director (Ntndeacon)<O:p</O:p[/b]
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[b]1.12 John Wayne – Actor: Action (Sun Tzu)[/b]
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[font=Times New Roman][size=3]<O:p[b]First Round Recap - Winners and Losers[/b]</O:p[/size][/font]
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[NoMyths]

Boy, tough call between my top two choices. In the end, though, I have to go with the guy who made what I consider to be one of the handful of best films ever...so with the 3rd pick in the draft (for Actor (Drama)), I select: Jack Nicholson.

Forget the mugging of late. For Five Easy Pieces alone he should be cast in miniature bronze and distributed to schoolchildren. Throw in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Easy Rider, Chinatown, The Shining...and then consider that all of those films were made in an eleven year period. With fairly distinct early, middle, and late periods, Jack has been a complete actor, with the dramatic chops to pull off a Robert Dupea and the comedic timing to pull off a Melvin Udall. From sinister to heartbreaking, Nicholson is my choice to head up my filmmaking team.

[Sun Tzu]

Has anybody picked Van Dam yet?

[NoMyths]

How many rounds are we going? I.e. are we going to choose more than one person for each category (as I tend to think we should)?

[WSUCougar]

From sinister to heartbreaking, Nicholson is my choice to head up my filmmaking team.
Solid pick. As an aside, I thought his portrayals of The Joker in Batman and Colonel Jessup in A Few Good Men were great supporting roles.

[WSUCougar]

How many rounds are we going? I.e. are we going to choose more than one person for each category (as I tend to think we should)?
I had only intended 10 rounds.

[Sun Tzu]

I would think we would only be picking one from each category.

[oykib]

Solid pick. As an aside, I thought his portrayals of The Joker in Batman and Colonel Jessup in A Few Good Men were great supporting roles.

I usually really like Nicholson and love him in some stuff. But his Joker was terrible. That was classic Hollywood Star-Personality suff-- not acting.

The whole "Batman" movie was a ball of crap if you ask me (which I realize no one did).

[3ric]

I had difficulties in placing my choice of actress in a specific category since she was so versatile - she was equally prolific in any kind of movie - comedy, drama or romance. But there's no doubt she belongs at the top of any list of the finest actresses ever.

My choice for <b>best actress (romance)</b> has 12 Oscar nominations, 4 wins for Best Actress, and 6 movies in the IMDB top 100. Ladies and gentlemen, the fourth pick overall in the draft is <b>Katharine Hepburn</b>.

[oykib]

BTW, Hurry up, 3ric. It's 3:00 in the morning here. I gotta go to bed!

[oykib]

That was quick. Did you use a time machine, man?

[WSUCougar]

I had difficulties in placing my choice of actress in a specific category since she was so versatile - she was equally prolific in any kind of movie - comedy, drama or romance. But there's no doubt she belongs at the top of any list of the finest actresses ever.

My choice for <b>best actress (romance)</b> has 12 Oscar nominations, 4 wins for Best Actress, and 6 movies in the IMDB top 100. Ladies and gentlemen, the fourth pick overall in the draft is <b>Katharine Hepburn</b>.
Great selection. If my pick was a bit lower she was in my sights.

Edit: Although I would have gone "Drama" over "Romance" I think.

[NoMyths]

Definitely a solid choice.

[oykib]

My first I'm going shortstop with my pick. I'm getting rid of the toughest category with the greatest performer in any of the categories.

That's right I'm choosing Best Actor (musical). This is a man whose voice was described by the great Louis Armstrong as, "Like hearing gold being poured from a cup."

One of the songs from his movie Holiday Inn is the number one selling single of all time. He has more #1 hits than Elvis or the Beatles-- at 38. Many of those hits off the tracks from even his involvement in more pedestrian vehicles. He's that smooth.

With the fifth pick I select three-time Academy Award best actor nominee, and 1945 Academy Awards Best Actor Award Winner...



...the Honus Wagner of the movie draft...





Bing Crosby




Going My Way?

[WSUCougar]

Alrighty then. That one blindsided me, but you're confidence is inspiring. ;)

[oykib]

Alrighty then. That one blindsided me, but you're confidence is inspiring. ;)

Now, y'all know that I'm playing for keeps... :D

I'm off to bed. I hope the snake gets around to my next blockbuster before I have to go to work tomorrow.

[Calis]

I must admit, I'm a bit frightened to be involved in another FOFC Draft after the debacle that was/is the previous one I'm in, but I'll take my chances because it's fun!

With the 6th pick of the draft I will select....


Stanley Kubrick
Director

Just for the added bonus of being my favorite, and I think is a very safe first round pick. We're talking Spartacus, 2001, Dr. Strangelove, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket..the list goes on and on. Outstanding direction in cinematography in all his films, and you can really tell how painstakingly each scene was crafted. Not too mention he was the writer on most of his big scripts, which just adds to the value.

I'd of taken him with the first pick if I had it.

[NoMyths]

Nice pick, Calis. He was one of my top three directors.

[WSUCougar]

Wow, I had no idea he directed Spartacus. Nice choice.

[Calis]

Oddly enough I didn't know that either..you never hear him associated with that one. I guess because he didn't write it.

EDIT: Guess I should specify I didn't know it until I checked IMDB before making my pick. I obviously knew about it when I made my pick. ;)

[Coffee Warlord]

Draft analysis post has been updated through Calis's pick.

Tell ya what, I'm already surprised about how this is going.

[3ric]

<b>CW's Not As Scathing As GSG, But Still Possibly Brutal, Draft Analysis</b>

<b>1.1 - Alfred Hitchcock, SP</b>
No arguments here. A truly legendary director, worthy of the #1 overall pick. <b>A</b>

<b>1.2 Jimmy Stewart, WSUCougar</b>
It's certainly not a bad pick. Not one I would have gone for, but JS is certainly a quality guy to have on your roster. Personally though, I think putting Stewart as the top actor of the draft is a smidge much. <b>B-</b>

<b>1.3 - Jack Nicholson, NoMyths</b>
My personal list of top 5 acting talent included good old Jack. He's a beast, and I have no problems with him going this early. <b>A</b>

<b>1.4 - Katharine Hepburn, 3ric</b>
Great actress, way too damn early to take her off the board. I would have bet money she'd be available to 3ric in the 2nd. On the plus side, she will likely be one of the best choices among the Actresses, but still. Way too friggen early to take her off the board. <b>C</b>

<b>1.5 - Bing Crosby, oykib</b>
Sorry man, but no. Fifth overall selection, and you went with an obscure great. Don't get me wrong, Crosby is above and beyond the top man for his category, but this is far too early to be taking him.<b>D+</b>

<b>1.6 - Stanley Kubrik, Calis</b>
50/50 on this one. Good director, probably among the top 5 I'd have listed. However, there are at least 2 directors still out there I'd choose over Kubrik.
Solid, but not excellent pick. <b>B+</b>

C'mon CW - no way Hepburn is a reach in the first round... :D

[Coffee Warlord]

REACH! :)

I personally figured the first round would be Actors and Directors.

[ntndeacon]

She would not have gotten to the second round that was gonna be my first pick. Definately a very solid pick there 3ric!

[korme]

This is fun!

[Sloan]

REACH! :)

I personally figured the first round would be Actors and Directors.

There are lots of good actors and directors though. I think Bing Crosby was a great first round pick. Why not take people from weak categories first if you can get a good director in round 7?

[rkmsuf]

There are lots of good actors and directors though. I think Bing Crosby was a great first round pick. Why not take people from weak categories first if you can get a good director in round 7?

So do you draft Tony Gonzalez #1 every year?

[Sloan]

So do you draft Tony Gonzalez #1 every year?

Good point. :D

[GoldenScribeGuy]

CW's Not As Scathing As GSG, But Still Possibly Brutal, Draft Analysis

Me scathing? I think I've been rather timid to this point (round 1 - pick 2).

CW - you make me out to be the Simon Cowell of the FOFC......So it might be
warranted, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Wow, I had no idea he directed Spartacus. Nice choice.

He did but he considered it his worst movie because the bigwigs in charge basically butchered and constricted what he wanted to do. Spartacus was his first "big budget" movie.

After that, whenever he signed his contracts he demanded complete and utter control over his pictures with no timetable.

[Coffee Warlord]

Me scathing? I think I've been rather timid to this point (round 1 - pick 2).

CW - you make me out to be the Simon Cowell of the FOFC......So it might be
warranted, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

Exactly why I said scathing. If you've been timid up to this point, then I have a feeling you'll wind up being far more brutal than I.

Although...I can't wait to read what you think about Bing Crosby and Katherine Hepburn. :)

[Barkeep49]

So far I like the direction this draft has taken. I haven't lost out on any of my top choices and we're half way to me. Woo Woo!

FWIW I can't fault the Bing Crosby pick.

[ntndeacon]

I still see most of mine too. (Except for Hepburn of course)
I agree The Crosby pick was not bad, though I wasn't looking there there are several in that category my eye is on.

[GoldenScribeGuy]

My expert analysis has been updated to pick #6.

Feel free to disagree with my opinion. At the end of the day, you will still be wrong.

[3ric]

1.4 Katherine Hepburn – Best Actress: Romance (3ric)

I absolutely love Katherine Hepburn on film. She was an amazing talent, starring in more than 50 films spanning eight decades. Although I have not seen all of her movies, I can safely say that I have never seen her do poorly in a film. (Checking IMDB, I’ve seen more than twenty of them. Good grief, I think I need to get out more.)

However.

Best Actress: Romance ???

“The African Queen” could be considered a romance, I guess; and “The Rainmaker” definitely falls into that category. But, I guess, I tend to remember her for roles like Eleanor of Aquitaine in “Lion in Winter” and other dramatic roles in movies like “On Golden Pond” and “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner”.

I am agreeing with WSUCougar here. IMO, it’s a great pick; wrong category.

When she did "African Queen" she had hit middle age and almost exclusively did roles as the spinster kind of woman. But her roles in the 1940's, before that, are definitely in the "Romance" category. "Woman of the year", "Adam's Rib", and "Philadelphia Story" - make a choice. Great pick, regardless of category - she did them all.

[NoMyths]

1.3 Jack Nicholson – Best Actor: Drama (NoMyths)

Where do I start……Whenever I get into a discussion with other people regarding the talents of modern Hollywood actors and actresses, I always get into a screaming match regarding the abilities of one guy..…you guessed it. Jack Nicholson. In my opinion, he is ......

Moderately over-rated!!!! (before I get slammed too hard, notice I did not say ‘highly’ overrated.)

He is a good actor. That’s it. Just good. He has been exceptional in a handful of roles, and has just gone through the motions in many more. Examples.

Jack Nicholson in “Cuckoo’s Nest” was simply amazing.
Jack Nicholson in “Batman” was simply average.
Jack Nicholson in “The Shining” was the highlight of the film (overrated film BTW)
Jack Nicholson in “The Witches of Eastwick” was dreadful. – granted, he didn’t have much to work with.
Jack Nicholson is “As Good As it Gets” was….well, I really didn’t care for the movie, so let’s just say I was less than impressed.

Nicholson is a good comedic actor, but not on my top ten. He is a good dramatic actor, but not on my top ten. I think that he is just too darned inconsistent to deserve the #3 pick overall. In a nutshell, I think you blew it NoMyths.We'll have to disagree, then. There isn't an actor out there who hasn't appeared in some bad films, and who hasn't phoned it in in some films. Nicholson, however, at his best has been better than 99% of anyone else at their best...and he's done roles that others wouldn't have been able to bring the same life to.

Bottom line: in Five Easy Pieces alone he cemented himself as one of the three or four most important American actors in cinematic history. Being as how I don't pick again for a long time--and knowing that Jack wouldn't be around that late--I'd take him again in a heartbeat. I could look comfortably at any project knowing I had Jack in my pocket...not so with my other top acting choices.

But your enthusiasm and commentary is appreciated. :)

[WSUCougar]

We'll have to disagree, then.
At least you didn't get a B- from Coffee... :D

[Calis]

I'm wounded by GSG's rating of my pick.

I'd say Kubrick is a top 3 director. I actually liked Eyes Wide Shut also, although I hadn't seen the other film mentioned. I will however agree he was a nutjob.

I actually like the picks so far. Good stuff. I will say I'm a bit baffled by the Bing Crosby pick, but then again I have a deep burning hatred of musicals, so I fear having to pick someone in that category.

[NoMyths]

hehe...Coffee knows where it's at. ;)

Seriously...Nicholson has a lot of baggage for being "JACK!" but it causes his acting to be overlooked. He's got more great films than many folks have films. I was reluctant to take him for non-filmic reasons, but honestly, anyone who's seen his best work (including Five Easy Pieces) knows the score.

[NoMyths]

dola...

Calis: In my book, Kubrick is an A director. I'd rather have him than all but two or three other guys. Nobody did light like him.

[GoldenScribeGuy]

We'll have to disagree, then.......But your enthusiasm and commentary is appreciated. :)
Oh my. Someone that can take criticism without resorting to namecalling. Is this the FOFC?

Anyway, Loved your rebuttal. I have a feeling that you and I could discuss movies/acting performances into the wee hours of the morning.

Of course, you would still be wrong. :D

[NoMyths]

I think we probably could too, GSG. Hopefully after a few beers (and some illustrative highlights from key films) you'd come around. ;)

[Coffee Warlord]

My expert analysis has been updated to pick #6.

Feel free to disagree with my opinion. At the end of the day, you will still be wrong.

Over/Under on us agreeing about at least 1 pick in the first round? :)

[korme]

Where oh where could Karim be.

[oykib]

I think a lot of you fellows have missed the boat on how popular musicals were in the first half of the twentieth century. That was probably the most popular genre of film until the great director revolution in the 60s.

People liked to see extravaganzas back then. How else do you account for the incredible popularity of the films of Sonja Henie and Esther Williams.

But Bing is the guy. When you think about making movies today, you can't really find a place for his skills. But he was the biggest star of his era. And we still have the impact of his songs today. Half the Bing songs you here, you probaably don't recognize as his. His songs, particularly from his films, are that much a part of Americana.

Hell, you can't get through Christmas without feeling the impact of Holiday Inn.

I think a lot of you think that I made the pick of the best guy in a maarginal category. But up until fairly recent history, theatre was music. Now, we see a new mainstream musical only every five years or so. But Bing made five movies in a year and they all made money hand over fist.

[Sun Tzu]

How long has Karim been on the clock?

[SplitPersonality1]

I think a lot of you think that I made the pick of the best guy in a maarginal category. But up until fairly recent history, theatre was music. Now, we see a new mainstream musical only every five years or so. But Bing made five movies in a year and they all made money hand over fist.

I think you may have impressed GSG. He said your pick was inspired. Hell, he didn't slam you or ridicule you in any way. You should be proud.

[Craptacular]

What, never heard of “Killer’s Kiss”. Here is the promotional tagline from this 1955 piece of craptaculousness.

Hey now! I had nothing to do with it!

[Coffee Warlord]

Defending Bing!

It's not the pick, per se. It was actually a very good pick.

I'm just of the opinion, strategically speaking, you could have picked someone else in another category and easily got him in later rounds. Raiders nonwithstanding, not many people take kickers in the first round, so ta speak. :)

[Sun Tzu]

"Needlenose Ned"? "Ned the Head"? C'mon, buddy! Case Western High! I did the whistling belly-button trick at the high school talent show? Got the shingles real bad senior year, almost didn't graduate? I dated your sister Mary Pat a couple of times until you told me not to anymore?

[ntndeacon]

I do agree he probably could have gotten him later, but it definately is not assured. I am veiewing these picks a little different than you CW. I think that at least most of these categories cary roughly the same weight. (Only two notable exceptions the Suporting Categories by their very nature...) not that there arent good picks in that category too. But the other 8 categoriesseem like they should have similar value.

[GoldenScribeGuy]

Hey now! I had nothing to do with it!
:D Did I spell "craptaculousness" correctly? :D

[WSUCougar]

Karim has about 4 hours before he gets bumped.

[Barkeep49]

Can I suggest that 24 hours is perhaps too long a time? It seems that our draft could get considerably bogged down by such a long wait time.

I'm obviously not suggesting bumping Karim early, but making a suggest as we move forward.

[ntndeacon]

Karim did say he could only be on late at night.
Course I am anticipating my First pick with much exuberence.

[WSUCougar]

Okay, Karim has been bumped and Sloan is on the clock.

Karim, you can make your 1st round pick at anytime, and it will be valid as long as you post ahead of whomever makes the next choice.

[GoldenScribeGuy]

Karim, Karim, Karim.

This had better be a monster pick since you kept me waitng.

Not to put any pressure on you or anything. ;)

[Sloan]

My first pick is probably most known for his work as a comedic actor, but he was so much more than that. He was the first big movie star, and while a handful of others may have been just as influential, I don't think anyone surpasses the impact that this man had on the movie industry. He pioneered many of the techniques used by film makers today and was able to incorporate new technologies (sound) as they became available. In fact, while he most remembered as a silent artist, one of his pictures (Limelight) won an Oscar for best musical score.

My selection for Director is Charlie Chaplin

Chaplin not only starred and directed nearly all of his films, he also wrote and produced them as well. Chaplin was nominated for Oscars for best actor, best picture, best writing, and best music. He received an honoary Oscar at the first Oscar awards in 1928 for genius in acting, writing, directing, and producing. Instead of giving him an award in each category they removed his name from competition and gave him this special award instead. He also won an Oscar in 1973 for best music and received a lifetime achievement Oscar in 1972.

[WSUCougar]

Well, there goes my Comedy Actor choice!

Shorty, you're on the clock.

[GoldenScribeGuy]

WSUCougar - Why do you lose your Comedy Actor choice. If a person qualifys under more than one category, shouldn't you be able to take him?

Just a thought.

[Barkeep49]

I agree with the idea that a person should only be taken once. On top of that I would be in favor of allowing later switches so that Sloan could later switch Charlie to Comedic Actor if there is a Director who he wants later on.

FWIW I think Charlie Chaplin is an inspired choice, but will be curious what the commentators think of taking him as a director.

[WSUCougar]

Yeah, you are drafting the individual, not the slot. Even if you want to put Charlie Chaplin as your Romantic Actress... :D

[Sloan]

Ooohhhh, that is good to know.

[korme]

With my first selection, pick 9 (8 really), I go the drama route..

Say hello to my little friend. His name is-

Al Pacino


He first galvanized movie audiences as quiet Mafia scion Michael Corleone in Francis Coppola's 1972 The Godfather (for which he was Oscar-nominated). He returned to the character twice more, playing it in The Godfather, Part II (1974, nominated again) as a steely, paranoid, implacably heartless don, and then in The Godfather, Part III (1990) as an aging, infirm, and tragic figure. For these three films, if for nothing else, Pacino will always be remembered. Debuting on film in 1969's Me, Natalie (the same year he won a Tony Award for Broadway's "Does a Tiger Wear a Necktie?"), Pacino brought unique integrity to many roles, from a sexually confused would-be bank robber in Dog Day Afternoon (1975) to an incorruptible maverick cop in Serpico (1973). He had a way of commanding the screen, whether as a junkie in The Panic in Needle Park (1971) or a quiet drifter in Scarecrow (1973). He virtually defined screen intensity, and brought it with him even to projects that were unworthy, like Bobby Deerfield (1977) and a controversial look at the gay netherworld, Cruising (1980). He fared better as an idealistic lawyer in And Justice For All (1979, earning another Oscar nomination) and was quite likable in the critically savaged comedy Author! Author! (1982). His explosive performance as Cuban drug kingpin Tony Montana in Brian De Palma's Scarface (1983, a latterday cult favorite) was followed by a deadly costume drama, Revolution (1985), in which his Colonial Noo Yawk accent prompted widespread derision.

[WSUCougar]

It's funny, given all of Pacino's headliner roles over the years, but one of the films I always associate him with is The Devil's Advocate. He does make a convincing Lucifer, cigar in hand. :p

Barkeep49 is on the clock!

[Barkeep49]

This was a very tough pick. There are a couple of people out there who I "must" have, but in the end I choose a man who has recently shown his comedic skills, but Robert Deniro will be filling my Actor (drama) slot based on such classic roles as Vito Corleon (Godfather Part II), Travis Bickle (the Taxi Driver), Michael Vronsky (Deer Hunter), & Jake La Motta (Raging Bull). This six time Acadamee Award nominee forms the anchor of my classic film crew.

[Calis]

I had a feeling DeNiro would be coming very soon after Pacino.

Joe Pesci can't be far behind! ;)

[WSUCougar]

Peas in a pod!

deacon, you're up.

[WSUCougar]

Just as an FYI, I'm going to make a unilateral ruling on comedic groups: for the purposes of this draft, the Marx Brothers and Three Stooges are considered single entitities. I realize this crosses the hideous line of mentioning names in the midst of the draft, but I figured it was something that needed resolution.

If anyone else has similar groups that need adjudication, chime in now.

[Coffee Warlord]

Bill and Ted? :)

[Maple Leafs]

I realize this crosses the hideous line of mentioning names in the midst of the draft...
(...doomed...)

[WSUCougar]

(...doomed...)
SkyDog!!!

[Calis]

Just as an FYI, I'm going to make a unilateral ruling on comedic groups: for the purposes of this draft, the Marx Brothers and Three Stooges are considered single entitities. I realize this crosses the hideous line of mentioning names in the midst of the draft, but I figured it was something that needed resolution.

If anyone else has similar groups that need adjudication, chime in now.

reported.

[WSUCougar]

reported.
A pity. I guess those three squads of infantry will have to wander astray, preferably into the open...


:D :D :D

[ntndeacon]

Wow! I am really surprised he made it to me. For My pick I was struggling between several notables. And there are still 4 that i am toying with even as I write this...(hopefully one of them will be my next round selection!!)
However My Pick is Director: Billy Wilder

Eight Times nominated for best director. Won Twice (1960 for the Apartment and 1945 for The Lost Weekend)
He is perhaps the most diverse in his directorial slate. Romantic Comedies like the Apartment...farces Like Some Like it Hot....Straight Dramas Like Sunset Boulevard...even great courtroom dramas and film noir...Witness for the Prosecution and Double Indemnity.
He also wrote most of this films as well...with 11 writing oscar noms and 3 wins in that category.
He is truly one of the greatest directors ever.

[WSUCougar]

Nice pick. I would never have expected him to be a first rounder, but that's the tone for the draft that was established early on.

Sun Tzu for two!

[albionmoonlight]

My #2 overall choice hasn't been picked yet. I'm interested to see when s/he goes.

[Coffee Warlord]

My #1 actor and #1 director haven't gone yet, either. We have wildly differing tastes, I guess.

Edit: I'm mildly curious as to what my reviewing partner in crime would think of my top two picks.

[NoMyths]

Chaplin: Great pick, wrong category. I'd shuffle him off to the Comedy slot, where he's almost untouchable.

Pacino: Nah...I don't think I've ever seen Pacino good in anything except Dog Day Afternoon. Didn't like him in any of the Godfather films. You always know what you're going to get out of a Pacino role, and you've known it from his first films through his latest ones.

DeNiro: He's up there...real, real high on DeNiro's dramatic work. One of the all-time greats in that category. But outside of drama, I just don't dig him.

Wilder: Outstanding choice. In my top five.

[ntndeacon]

I like Pacino but there are at least 6 I would take off the top of my head first. I am not even sure he would have gotten on my list of top 12

[Barkeep49]

Billy Wilder wasn't on my list, but should have been. Good pick.

[korme]

I suck.

[Coffee Warlord]

Hey, I liked your pick Shorty. :)

[Karim]

Ok...

Actor (action): Harrison Ford

[Sun Tzu]

I am both saddened and happy to be making this pick. Saddened that this person hadn't already been picked, but happy that I get to be the one picking him.

My first pick in this draft is arguably the biggest Icon in the history of American motion pictures. He is as well known worldwide as any man who ever starred in any film. He falls under the "Actor (action)" category. He is the one and only...

<b>John Wayne</b>

My second pick falls under the "Actor (drama)" category. These two don't exactly match up well together, but I don't think we're putting these guys into teams :). He is...

<b>Marlon Brando</b>

[Coffee Warlord]

And Sun gets the cookie for taking my #1 actor, Mr. Brando!

[3ric]

OK, second round, ntndeacon is up.

[NoMyths]

Harrison Ford: Great pick.

The Duke: Great, great pick. Was hoping he'd fall to me.

Brando: Ack...was a legend for a brief time, and deservedly so: almost single-handedly gave us modern cinema through his performances. Too bad he became insane and self-absorbed. Hasn't given a good performance in decades. For his time he was the best ever, and since we seem to be going off peak performance he's a solid enough pick, but not #1 (e.g. I'd take DeNiro's career over Brando's, but I'd take Brando at his peak over DeNiro at his).

[ntndeacon]

Really great pick with Brando. That makes my next pick a little easier.
Actress(Romance) Audrey Hepburn

[ntndeacon]

Now I get to watch all the names I want fall off the board.

[albionmoonlight]

Hitchcock (Director) would have been my number 1

Brando (actor) would have been my #2. He was amazing at his peak--no one better IMHO. He got fat and crazy as he got older, but, hey, so did Elvis.

[Barkeep49]

Well I'm drafting him far earlier than I would like, but I can't see him lasting almost two full rounds back to me and with Hepburn gone, I will take Peter Lorre (Supporting Actor).

First coming to attention in what some consider the finest German film of the time, M, Lorre became known to American audiences through his brilliant work first in The Maltese Falcon and then Casablanca. With almost fifty films on his acting resume, Lorre is the definition of an excellent Supporting Actor.

[WSUCougar]

Wow, what a cool pick!

"FAT-man!"

[ntndeacon]

Nice pick Barkeep I was certainly keeping an eye on him.

[WSUCougar]

While I can certainly see why Marlon Brando was taken, I’ve always felt he was overrated. There are other, better actors from his era that are still on the board. Of course, I got slammed for taking Jimmy Stewart, so clearly I am not on the same page as some of you. ;)

[3ric]

Peter Lorre! That's a great pick, Barkeep.

[Barkeep49]

Thank you everybody for the nice words. I felt he might be seen as being pick too early, but your kind words affirm that I was right to take him. Thank you again and hats off to a great actor.

[3ric]

I think it was the right thing to jump at the chance of picking him, since the supporting actor category is so hard to do right - I have barely one solid candidate, and didn't think about Lorre at all. I missed him completely, yet it's so obvious.

[korme]

In the supporting actor category I select one of my favorites, maybe a little early but what the hell:

Kevin Spacey

[Sloan]

Now that I know I can move Chaplin to comedey actor that is what I'll do. My next selection is: Director: Steven Spielberg

The Sugarland Express
Jaws
Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
Indiana Jones series
E.T.
Poltergeist
Twilight Zone
Empire Of The Sun
Jurassic Park
Schindler's List
Amistad
Saving Private Ryan
Minority Report

and more. . .

[WSUCougar]

Damn.

[oykib]

Man, you guys are taking too long. This waiting is killing me.

I'm off to work. So don't expect my pick if my turn comes around. I'm out until Suday morning your time.

p.s. I was wondering who would pick Speilberg. I also want to read the film elitist reaction to it.

[Chubby]

Kevin Spacey? (someone had to say it)

[Karim]

Cool... I'm actually on the computer when my turn is up! ;)

My pick for the Actress (Drama) category:

Meryl Streep


Prime (2005) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387514/) (announced (http://pro.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/inproduction/))

Chaos (2004/II) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384873/) (pre-production (http://pro.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/inproduction/))
Flora Plum (2004) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0125751/) (pre-production (http://pro.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/inproduction/))
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events (2004) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0339291/) (filming (http://pro.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/inproduction/)) .... Aunt Josephine
Manchurian Candidate, The (2004) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368008/) (filming (http://pro.imdb.com/r/legacy-inprod-name/inproduction/)) .... Raymond's mother, Eleanor Shaw
"Angels in America" (2003) (mini) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318997/) <SMALL>TV Series</SMALL> .... The Rabbi/Hannah Pitt/Ethel Rosenberg
Hours, The (2002) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0274558/) .... Clarissa Vaughan
Adaptation. (2002) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268126/) .... Susan Orlean
"School" (2001) (mini) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0255751/) <SMALL>TV Series</SMALL> (voice) .... Narrator
Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/) (voice) .... Blue Fairy
... aka A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) (USA: poster title)
Chrysanthemum (2000) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211305/) .... Narrator
Music of the Heart (1999) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166943/) .... Roberta Guaspari
One True Thing (1998) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120776/) .... Kate Gulden
Dancing at Lughnasa (1998) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120643/) .... Kate Mundy
...First Do No Harm (1997) (TV) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118526/) .... Lori Reimuller
Marvin's Room (1996) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116999/) .... Lee
Before and After (1996) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115645/) .... Carolyn Ryan
Bridges of Madison County, The (1995) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112579/) .... Francesca Johnson
River Wild, The (1994) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110997/) .... Gail
"Century of Women, A" (1994) (mini) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108720/) <SMALL>TV Series</SMALL> (voice)
House of the Spirits, The (1993) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107151/) .... Clara
... aka Åndernes hus (1993) (Denmark)
... aka Casa dos Espíritos, A (1993) (Portugal)
... aka Geisterhaus, Das (1993) (Germany)
Death Becomes Her (1992) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104070/) .... Madeline Ashton
Defending Your Life (1991) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101698/) .... Julia
"Race to Save the Planet" (1990) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101174/) <SMALL>TV Series</SMALL> .... Hostess
Postcards from the Edge (1990) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100395/) .... Suzanne Vale
Rabbit Ears: The Fisherman and His Wife (1989) (V) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215098/) .... Storyteller
She-Devil (1989) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098309/) .... Mary Fisher
Tailor of Gloucester, The (1988) (V) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318107/) .... Narrator
Cry in the Dark, A (1988) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094924/) .... Lindy Chamberlain
... aka Evil Angels (1988) (Australia)
Ironweed (1987) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093277/) .... Helen Archer
Rabbit Ears: The Tale of Mr. Jeremy Fisher (1987) (V) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215100/) (voice) .... Storyteller
Rabbit Ears: The Tale of Peter Rabbit (1987) (V) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215101/) (voice) .... Storyteller
Heartburn (1986) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091188/) .... Rachel Louise Samstat/Forman
Out of Africa (1985) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089755/) .... Karen Christence Dinesen Blixen-Finecke
Plenty (1985) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089816/) .... Susan Traherne
Little Ears: The Velveteen Rabbit (1984) (V) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215102/) .... Storyteller
Falling in Love (1984) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087233/) .... Molly Gilmore
Silkwood (1983) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086312/) .... Karen Silkwood
Sophie's Choice (1982) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084707/) .... Sophie
Still of the Night (1982) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084732/) .... Brooke Reynolds
Alice at the Palace (1982) (TV) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133356/) .... Alice
French Lieutenant's Woman, The (1981) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082416/) .... Sarah/Anna
Uncommon Women... and Others (1979) (TV) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080059/) .... Leilah
Kramer vs. Kramer (1979) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079417/) .... Joanna Kramer
Seduction of Joe Tynan, The (1979) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079875/) .... Karen Traynor
Manhattan (1979) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079522/) .... Jill
Deer Hunter, The (1978) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077416/) .... Linda
"Holocaust" (1978) (mini) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077025/) <SMALL>TV Series</SMALL> .... Inga Helms Weiss
Julia (1977) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076245/) .... Anne Marie
Deadliest Season, The (1977) (TV) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075918/) .... Sharon Miller
Secret Service (1977) (TV) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215165/) .... Edith Varney
Everybody Rides the Carousel (1975) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220450/) (voice) .... Stage 6

[Karim]

dola,

Calis is up.

[Calis]

eek, you people have lulled me into a false sense of confidence. I completely haven't thought about this.

Gimme a few minutes and I'll make a pick.

[Calis]

Well I'll be the first to admit I'm not too knowledgeable on old time films, but there are a few guys that I know, one of whom I'm really surprised has lasted as long as he has. I'll go ahead and snag him up now, because I'm sure he won't last another round.

Humphrey Bogart
Actor(Drama)

I don't really think I have to explain much more about this pick..Casablanca, Maltese Falcon, The African Queen, The Left Hand of God..the list goes on and on.

I've had to double and triple check to make sure I didn't miss him getting picked the first time around. Very happy he was still here.

[3ric]

So... if oykib is taking a pass, then it's my turn now, right?

[3ric]

OK, since I can't access this board while going away over the weekend, I'll take my pick just in case.

The category actor (comedy) is a difficult one, with few names who are truly worthy. The plural tense of the word "names" is important in this case since these men are selected as a group - it would be impossible to select one before the others as the whole of the group became something more than just the sum of the parts. Ladies and gentlemen, I proudly select: the Marx Brothers, Groucho, Chico, Harpo and Zeppo.

[GoldenScribeGuy]

p.s. I was wondering who would pick Speilberg. I also want to read the film elitist reaction to it.
Is that directed at little old me?? Hmm. Maybe I should add elitist to my signature. Kind of makes me want to take back my endorsement of the Bing Crosby pick.

{waiting in anticipation of oykib's next pick...I hope it's a good one}

[BishopMVP]

First off I'll offer my services as holder of PM'ed lists, in case of an expected absence from the board. This way you can avoid worrying about either submitting too short a list, as happened in the football draft, or giving too much information to someone involved in the draft.

I am not the expert that GSG is, and I'll probably bring a more modern perspective in, but I'll do my best to give proper respect to all the old-timers. I'd even support counting my vote as half and maybe giving half to someone else or FOFC as a whole in some sort of voting mechanism.

I also must admit that I'm somewhat uncertain as to how to judge the compilations of talent at the end. Should I give a team more points for having solid people in every category, or for having some that are head and shoulders above others in their category. Should they be counted as a 'team' at all and thus be able to fit into one or two movies, or just judged on individual talent? With these qualifications, I submit my (fairly quick and easy) draft grading so far, with limited commentary.

Splitpersonality1 (1.1) Director: Alfred Hitchcock A-
A Peyton Manning-esque #1. Nothing inspired or out of the ordinary, but a very very solid choice.
WSUCougar (1.2) Actor/Drama: Jimmy Stewart B-
A solid choice, and this may be my modern bias, but I feel there were better candidates available.
NoMyths (1.3) Actor/Drama: Jack Nicholson B+
3Ric (1.4) Actress/Romance: Katherine Hepburn C
One of the Top 10 actresses in each category, but is she #1 in any of them? Her versatility may prove to be an asset late in the draft.
oykib (1.5) Musical: Bing Crosby A
The toughest pick to grade. Really depends on how you judge the teams at the end, but I think getting a clear-cut #1 at one of the harder categories is a very good choice.
Calis (1.6) Director: Stanley Kubrick A-
Karim (1.7) Actor/Action: Harrison Ford B-
Sloan (1.8) Director: Charlie Chaplin C/A-
First grade on the pick as a director, second on how Sloan recovered and moved him to Comedic Actor and picked up Spielberg.
Shorty3281 (1.9) Actor/Drama: Al Pacino B+
Barkeep49 (1.10) Actor/Drama: Robert DeNiro B+
Ntndeacon (1.11) Director: Billy Wilder B+
Sun Tzu (1.12) Actor/Action: John Wayne A
---2nd Round---
Sun Tzu (2.13) Actor/Drama: Marlon Brando A
Ntndeacon (2.14) Actress/Romance: Audrey Hepburn A-
Barkeep49 (2.15) Supporting Actor: Peter Lorre B
Shorty3281 (2.16) Supporting Actor: Kevin Spacey B+
Sloan (2.17) Director: Steven Spielberg A-
Karim (2.18) Actress/Drama: Meryl Streep B
Calis (2.19) Actor/Drama: Humphrey Bogart A-
Oykib (2.20) Pass I
3Ric (2.21) Actors/Comedy: The Marx Brothers B+

[oykib]

I'll make my pick in a minute...

[oykib]

My pick is the best of the modern action stars. He's the clear best, just given the fact that he can actually act and can still kick ass at seventy-plus.

He's one of only five legitimate picks in this category. In my opinion, he's the best of them.




Clint Eastwood


He's done it all. He's been a cop, an astronaut, and a whole lotta cowboys. He is the cowboy. He's as much an icon as Wayne-- without being the charicature of himself that Wayne was in his later career.

[BreizhManu]

plus he's got an advantage over john wayne, you can switch him to director too. nice pick

[oykib]

plus he's got an advantage over john wayne, you can switch him to director too. nice pick

Domo. But I still got to get past GSG and CW.

[oykib]

Is that directed at little old me?? Hmm. Maybe I should add elitist to my signature. Kind of makes me want to take back my endorsement of the Bing Crosby pick.

{waiting in anticipation of oykib's next pick...I hope it's a good one}

Actually, it's not directed at anyone here (simply because I really don't know your movie tastes). Just that, in general, Speilberg's middle career is regarded by critics as a series of dumbed down clap-trap.

Obviously, he's turned a number of people around with Schindler's List and, more importantly, Saving Private Ryan.

[ntndeacon]

What do you mean by his middle period, oykib? He has been making movies now for 30 years 74-2003. So lets assume for the sake of arguement the middle period is from 84-93. 10 years. Granted there are some not very good movies...or at least not classics. Always Temple of Doom, Hook. But there are some great movies there too.
Color Purple Empire of the Sun mainly.

[WSUCougar]

Man, my "hot list" is in tatters after the last few picks. I had targeted Eastwood (my hero as a youngster), The Marx Brothers (who are consistently laugh-out-loud funny to me), and Spielberg. Obviously, I applaud all of those picks.

NoMyths is up and I'm on deck.

[oykib]

What do you mean by his middle period, oykib? He has been making movies now for 30 years 74-2003. So lets assume for the sake of arguement the middle period is from 84-93. 10 years. Granted there are some not very good movies...or at least not classics. Always Temple of Doom, Hook. But there are some great movies there too.
Color Purple Empire of the Sun mainly.

I'm not one of them. But every discussion that I've had with a group of people about him includes the discussion of his less than Oscar worthy. Basically the stuff that's meant to make money.

Plenty of movie lovers only love movies that normal people won't pay to see.

[Sloan]

Actually, it's not directed at anyone here (simply because I really don't know your movie tastes). Just that, in general, Speilberg's middle career is regarded by critics as a series of dumbed down clap-trap.


I was wondering what the reaction to the pick would be as well. Granted not every movie he has ever done is hall of fame material, but neither is anyone elses. We just know of Spielberg's failures because they just happened. Maybe Spielberg just wanted cash on some of his lesser films, or maybe he was experimenting. Who knows? If you read the biographies of Chaplin and Welles on imdb, you'll see they had many box office failures as well.

[NoMyths]

My pick is the director of what many folks consider to be the greatest film of all time. The cinematic innovations that he pioneered (or, if not invent, cemented into the language of filmmaking) have affected just about every movie of vision since his time: deep fields of vision, exterior to interior "uncut" transitions, mirrored shots, and single shot scenes, to name a handful. His ability to move an audience is legendary (witness his "War of the Worlds" broadcast, or W.R. Hearst's machinations against him). With yesterday's tools he changed the landscape of cinema--with today's tools there's no telling what kind of brilliances would have emerged.

For Director, I select Orson Welles.

Citizen Kane. Touch of Evil. The Third Man. The Magnificent Ambersons. A Man for All Seasons. Transformers: The Movie.

[Sloan]

Transformers: The Movie.[/i]
Wow, I did not know that.

[GoldenScribeGuy]

Wow. I'm truly stunned. Orson Welles directed Transformer: The Movie? I thought I knew everything about Welles, but this somehow slipped past me.

Edit: Okay, I'm not crazy. He did not direct Transformer: The Move.
He was the voice of Unicron in that 1986 classic film.

[korme]

My pick is the director of what many folks consider to be the greatest film of all time. The cinematic innovations that he pioneered (or, if not invent, cemented into the language of filmmaking) have affected just about every movie of vision since his time: deep fields of vision, exterior to interior "uncut" transitions, mirrored shots, and single shot scenes, to name a handful. His ability to move an audience is legendary (witness his "War of the Worlds" broadcast, or W.R. Hearst's machinations against him). With yesterday's tools he changed the landscape of cinema--with today's tools there's no telling what kind of brilliances would have emerged.

For Director, I select Orson Welles.

Citizen Kane. Touch of Evil. The Third Man. The Magnificent Ambersons. A Man for All Seasons. Transformers: The Movie.

Orson Welles and Spielberg gone, I was hoping Orson would slip to my pick. Damn.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Wow. I'm truly stunned. Orson Welles directed Transformer: The Movie? I thought I knew everything about Welles, but this somehow slipped past me.

Edit: Okay, I'm not crazy. He did not direct Transformer: The Move.
He was the voice of Unicron in that 1986 classic film.

You should change your title to self-proclaimed ultimate authority.

Truly dissappointing.

[WSUCougar]

Like watching the last great cover corner slip down through the draft order, I sweated out the last few picks hoping and praying that she wouldn't get stolen away from me (like Clint and the Marx Brothers had before her). Yet there she sits, in all of her glamorous glory...the very image of screen presence & beauty, of fleeting fame, and of sadness & tragedy...mine for the taking. And I do take her! Yes, give my candle in the wind,

Actress/romance: MARILYN MONROE.

Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. Some like it Hot. The Seven Year Itch (and one of the most memorable scenes in film history!). Marriages to Joe DiMaggio and Arthur Miller. The whole Kennedy thing. And then suicide...or murder? Whew, what an impact player!

[NoMyths]

Hehe. Maybe I should have been more explicit about stating that the list of films were projects that Welles was involved in...not necessarily directed. :)

He was a (great) actor as well, and had a helluva voice (hence the Transformers nod, which I figured would make a few folks smile).

[Coffee Warlord]

Week from hell has prompted it to be relaxation time for me. I'll catch up my reviews after the Super Bowl, prolly.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

For actor: Screech (Saved by the Bell)

[Sloan]

bump

[SplitPersonality1]

The final pick in round 2 goes to Elizabeth Taylor – Actress/Drama

Forget all the tabloid entries on the last two decades, forget about the eight failed marriages, the odd link to Michael Jackson and the horrible movie “The Flintstones”

Before she became a parody of herself, Elizabeth Taylor was a great actress. Starting out as a child star, in films like “National Velvet” and “Life with Father”, Taylor went on to become a Holywood legend in “Father of the Bride”, “Giant”, Butterfield 8”, “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf" and “The Taming of the Shrew”

[WSUCougar]

Before she became a parody of herself, Elizabeth Taylor was a great actress.
I believe she was also the first million-dollar-movie actress, for Cleopatra.

[SplitPersonality1]

I believe she was also the first million-dollar-movie actress, for Cleopatra.

Yes. That is correct.

[SplitPersonality1]

This is getting difficult. I have about seven names that I want to use for this pick, but of course, the rules will not let me do that that. I have a feeling that most of my reserve picks will go soon, but I have to hope for the best. So here goes nothing.

The first pick in round three is Judy Garland for Actor/Actress/Musical.

This will be a very tough category to fill so I am taking one of the best off the table right away. Her resume includes “The Wizard of Oz”, “Meet Me in St. Louis”, “Easter Parade”, and “A Star Is Born” Too bad drugs cut her career short.

[ntndeacon]

Both excellent Picks Split. I was hopinbg Taylor would somehow slide back to me. Ah well of to find plan 2.

[WSUCougar]

I'm going to go a different route than I intended, in hopes that my other choices for this pick will drop. I am more than happy to select:

MORGAN FREEMAN (Supporting Actor)

His list of impressive roles is a long one, but a few highlights include Driving Miss Daisy, Glory, Unforgiven, Seven, and of course Shawshank Redemption.

[NoMyths]

With the third pick of the third round (and as the seventh son of a seventh son), I select:

Jack Lemmon (Actor, Comedy)

Was the funniest man of his era when young and the funniest old man later. Jack was so good that Ving Rhames gave away an acting award he'd just received to the man. Even hosted the Academy Awards back in the day.

Some Like It Hot. The Apartment. The Odd Couple. JFK. Glengarry Glen Ross. Grumpy Old Men. My Fellow Americans. Hamlet. 12 Angry Men.

[3ric]

I'm running out of worthy names in the Actor(action) category, now that both John Wayne and Clint Eastwood are gone. This means I have to push ahead and pick the King of Cool, the star of films such as Papillon, Bullitt, The Thomas Crown Affair, The Sand Pebbles, The Cincinnati Kid, The Great Escape and The Magnificent Seven. Ladies and gentlemen, I pick the one and only <b>Steve McQueen</b>.

[WSUCougar]

oykib PMed me his next selection, which is:

ROBERT DUVAL (Supporting Actor)

Calis, you're on the clock.

Great pick, by the way 3Ric. Steve McQueen is one of my favorite actors, and particularly his roles in The Great Escape and The Sand Pebbles. I was hoping he might drop...:(

[Calis]

Alright, I'm going to go ahead and go with...

Cary Grant
Actor(Comedy)

North by Northwest, Philadelphia Story, Notorious, ahh..you all know it. The list goes on and on. Great actor imo, and a shame that he never received any accolades for his work.

[WSUCougar]

Very nice pick, Calis. Another high one scratched off my list. Dang, you guys are a tough bunch to draft with.

Karim is a night owl, so we'll have a bit of a wait on the next pick. Any more comments thusfar?

[korme]

I'm going to go a different route than I intended, in hopes that my other choices for this pick will drop. I am more than happy to select:

MORGAN FREEMAN (Supporting Actor)

His list of impressive roles is a long one, but a few highlights include Driving Miss Daisy, Glory, Unforgiven, Seven, and of course Shawshank Redemption.


Good good good pick. He was right up there for me.

[3ric]

I have trouble with the supporting actor category - I was totally blindsided by the selection of Peter Lorre - didn't see him coming, yet I totally agree. Same thing with Duvall. He's a superb actor, one of the finest there is. And then Freeman. I don't know who to pick here that will come close to that quality.

[SplitPersonality1]

I have trouble with the supporting actor category - I was totally blindsided by the selection of Peter Lorre - didn't see him coming, yet I totally agree. Same thing with Duvall. He's a superb actor, one of the finest there is. And then Freeman. I don't know who to pick here that will come close to that quality.

I agree. This is a very tough category. Hopefully, my picks make it to the end of round 4. Lorre & Freeman I saw coming. Great picks. Duvall, I missed, yet another great pick.

This draft is a blast.

I am curious to see what our judges think.

[ntndeacon]

There are several categories that I have NO clue on who I even want to pick. I knoew most of the recent picks would go eventually, but not in round 3. Only Duvall and Spacey I had not thought of...shoulda but did not. And I had thought about taking Cary Grant in the Drama category. Crosses more off my list.

[Calis]

And I had thought about taking Cary Grant in the Drama category. Crosses more off my list.

I actually had decided on Cary Grant for Actor/Romance as there are plenty of good options in the comedy category. Then I realized there was only a slot for Romance Actress. Sexist! Sexist I say! :)

Supporting Actor is going to be tough. I know who I'd like to pick for that, but I don't think the critics would be overly fond of the pick.

[Karim]

I wanted Morgan Freeman...

I'll select Actor(Drama): Gregory Peck

[oykib]

Maybe we should go to a twelve hour deadline for picks in round four. We seem to be bogging down here.

But this seems like the most fun of drafts/auctions.

BTW, Calis, I also looked at Cary Grant as Actor(Romance) before realizing that there was no such category.

[WSUCougar]

I'd recommend submitting me prioritized lists via PM that I can employ in the event of a significant delay. If your pick is prior to mine there is no conflict of interest, and if your pick follows mine I will not open the message until after my selection.

[oykib]

Why don't we go...

4th round -- 12 hours
5th+ round -- 8 hours

[WSUCougar]

Well, I hesitate to fix a lower number of hours since we have participants from (literally) across the world (U.S., Sweden, & Japan, I believe...maybe Canada too). If everyone can try to check in a couple times daily that would do the trick, in addition to the PM'd lists.

[oykib]

Well, I hesitate to fix a lower number of hours since we have participants from (literally) across the world (U.S., Sweden, & Japan, I believe...maybe Canada too). If everyone can try to check in a couple times daily that would do the trick, in addition to the PM'd lists.

I realize what you're saying as I live out in Japan myself (+14 hours as compared to EST). But it's on each guy to send a list or let the guys go ahead of him (I've done each once).

I'm having a lot of fun. But I've noticed that there's much less commentary from the peanut gallery now. Whither GSG...?
:confused:

[GoldenScribeGuy]

GSG was, and is, a tad under the weather. Don't worry. I have not gone away.


* edit * My commentary has been updated through 1.10. * edit *

[Sloan]

Busy day at work, and I'll give more backgound later, but my pick is Ingrid Bergman.

[WSUCougar]

Busy day at work, and I'll give more backgound later, but my pick is Ingrid Bergman.
I'm going to list that as an Actress/Romance selection, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Shorty3281 follows that up (via PM) with:

BRAD PITT (Actor/Comedy)

Shorty stated that he felt Pitt could go in several categories...I'll await his description of Brad's comedic highlights (I loved his performance in 12 Monkeys).

Barkeep49 is on the clock!

[ntndeacon]

I assumed Bergman was actress: drama.

[Barkeep49]

Wow didn't see Pitt going in the Comedy category... Give me a couple of minutes to consider the draft board and then I'll announce my pick.