Super Bowl Champion New England Patriots

[Sun Tzu]

Congrats

[pjstp20]

Great

[Sun Tzu]

Watching the game today you couldn't help but admitt they were the better team. They outplayed the Panthers in almost every phase of the game today. Congratulations to Antwain Smith who is the only man on the field who deserves the MVP today.

[Tasan]

Watching the game today you couldn't help but admitt they were the better team. They outplayed the Panthers in almost every phase of the game today. Congratulations to Antwain Smith who is the only man on the field who deserves the MVP today.
26 carries for 83 yards and a TD over 32/48 for 354 and 3 TDs? hmmm

[Senator]

God, I hate kickers. John Kasay had one job!!!!

[Tasan]

No kidding Senator. Whoever on the Pats that gets the MVP should turn around and hand the trophy to John Casay.

[Sun Tzu]

*cough*Kasay*cough*

[Ksyrup]

Watching the game today you couldn't help but admitt they were the better team. They outplayed the Panthers in almost every phase of the game today.
Who are you, the Sports Guy? They dominated for 1.5 quarters on the defensive side of the ball. Thatv was the difference. Otherwise, they were pretty even , I'd say. Score on drives, or score on big plays, it all shows up on the scoreboard the same.

[Sun Tzu]

Who are you, the Sports Guy?

I'm flattered.

[Sun Tzu]

John Kasay will be getting a check in the mail in the next few days signed by Bob Kraft.

[Peregrine]

I like the Patriots, they play hard and are a very likeable team. It's just the Patriots fans that I can't stand, knowing that I'll have to deal with them again for the next year is almost too much. Congrats to the Pats though.

[SFL Cat]

Hell of a game, though. A lot better than everyone was saying it would be.

[Ksyrup]

Honestly, I don't see how anyone could think the Patriots would blow out the Panthers like the Sports Guy did. This is a team that only blew one team out all year, and that was Buffalo at the end of the year. Even when they deserve to win in a cake walk, they don't allow themselves to. There's something odd about that, considering they've won 15 straight games. They don't look bad winning, and they continue to win, but the outcome of nearly every game isn't as definitive as it should be.

[Craptacular]

What is Jim Nantz smoking? I know he said it to please the fans, but "greatest Super Bowl ever"?!?!?! For the first 25 minutes, it was one of the worst football games ever.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

OK, I think it was the greatest 4th Quarter in Superbowl history.

As a Pats fan, I was cautiously optimistic. My head said the Panthers couldn't hang. My heart or gut said otherwise. See my previous threads. After consulting with FOFC members, I came to the conclusion that the Panthers made it there and that was worth something, plus anything can happen. A few big plays and you never know.

Holy cow! The Panthers were making big plays all over the place. But so were the Pats. I had 4 heart attacks during the game. When Brady threw the pick and then the Panthers took the lead on the deep ball, I thought I crapped my pants. The Pats were not in the lead for the first time in 8 games. I still had confidence in Brady, but Sheesh.

When we beat the Rams, I felt no sympathy for those cocky players and fans. Not all Rams fans were that way but a lot were. In this game, I give the props of all props to the Panthers. I thought that if they couldn't run, and had to leave it in Delhomme's hands, they didn't stand a chance. Boy was I was wrong. He is the real deal. The Panthers have a bright future. When the Panthers went down by 11, he hung in there and delivered.

The key: The Pats offensive line. Sapp, your an idiot for talking them down. Go back to Tampa Bay or to whatever team you end up on next year. We don't wan't you in Boston that's for sure.

Kudos to the Panthers, great game.

But the Pats are Superbowl champs and I am loving it.

Now I am off to make my own thread. Would it be too much to ask that Vinatieri be made the supreme leader of the world. This guy should never have to buy a drink in Boston again.

[Desnudo]

I don't think he's paid for a drink the past two years. This means free lap dances permanently at The Foxy Lady and a key to the city. What's funny is that he was the definite goat until that point. If he misses that, he becomes a semi-Scott Norwood.

[cthomer5000]

Can they at least retroactively remove Brady's MVP from 2 years ago and give it to the more deserving Vinatieri?

Brady being a two-time MVP just doesn't sit right with me... there was no way he deserved it agains the Rams.

[Craptacular]

Mike Vrabel deserved it tonight. 2 sacks, a forced fumble that set up a score, and a TD catch.

[CamEdwards]

I thought it was a great game. Good defense for 25 minutes, then a nice offensive shootout, plus a cliffhanger ending. And of course, I got the ending I was hoping for.

[Ksyrup]

Mike Vrabel deserved it tonight. 2 sacks, a forced fumble that set up a score, and a TD catch.
Is that what happened for the Patriots first TD, a fumble recovery? I had to put the kid to sleep, and joked to my wife that someone would score the second I left. And of course, as I come back into the bedroom, I see the extra point. I never did see how they got the ball to set up that TD.

[Craptacular]

Is that what happened for the Patriots first TD, a fumble recovery?

Vrabel blindsided Delhomme, forced a fumble as he was winding up to throw, and it was recovered by Seymour at the 20. Tom Brady had a nice scramble to get it to the 5 before he threw a TD.

[Peregrine]

I'd have to agree with a Vrabel MVP. He did it all.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Actually, Vrabel's TD was not on the fumble recovery. He caught the Pats last TD pass from the 2 yard line. He did cause the second quarter fumble though.

You know, I see the arguments, but Brady threw for 354 yards and led two fourth quarter pressure drives. If they could give the award to the entire OL line, then they should get it. In terms of one player, Brady deserved it.

[Danny]

Bleh, Brady deserved the MVP. He was the main part of putting up 32 points against one of the leagues top defenses. The Pats D, allowed 29 points, most of which during crunch time in the second half. No one on that defense deserved the MVP. And, I was rooting for Delhomme and the Panthers. Tough to see them lose, but Pats are a group that is hard to not like.

[ISiddiqui]

Congrats to the Pats.. but this was one year I thought a player from the losing team deserved the MVP award, Delhomme should have gotten it. The bread and butter of the Pathers was derailed and he just stepped it up.

[AgustusM]

kickers NEVER deserve the MVP - ever!

[Darkiller]

Can they at least retroactively remove Brady's MVP from 2 years ago and give it to the more deserving Vinatieri?

Brady being a two-time MVP just doesn't sit right with me... there was no way he deserved it agains the Rams.
I agree that he didn't really deserve it the first time two years ago.
This year, however, he's really the one that orchestrated the whole success of the Patiots in this Superbowl and he had some very good stats to back it up and add to the credentials...(and if it wasn't for that interception that turned out to be more critical than envisionned, it woud have been "TREMENDOUS" stats).

I was pulling for the Panthers and Jake Delhomme would have been the MVP if they had won...he actually outplayed Brady statistically (rating of 113 to 101, both QBs over 320 yards and both with 3 TDs). Incredible.

[gstelmack]

Honestly, I don't see how anyone could think the Patriots would blow out the Panthers like the Sports Guy did.
The sweet revenge on this will be that since the Pats didn't cover the spread, he lost a ton of money so won't be able to enjoy the victory. Doubly sweet after how he bragged about all the stupid people that were taking his bets...

As a Patriots fan, I'm glad they won, I just thought he was talking too much smack all week. This was all set up to be a good, tight match, and it turned out exactly that way. What a great game...

[Draft Dodger]

Honestly, I don't see how anyone could think the Patriots would blow out the Panthers like the Sports Guy did. This is a team that only blew one team out all year, and that was Buffalo at the end of the year. Even when they deserve to win in a cake walk, they don't allow themselves to. There's something odd about that, considering they've won 15 straight games. They don't look bad winning, and they continue to win, but the outcome of nearly every game isn't as definitive as it should be.

excellent point.

I was pretty confident the Pats would win - and there was no point in the game I thought this was in jeopardy - but they just don't blow out opponents. What they do is find a way to win - to beat them, you almost HAVE to blow them out; it's becoming routine for them to win in every single close game they play.

I do think Brady was the MVP, especially for those last 2 drives. Frankly, I would have given it to Vrabel, Branch or even Delhomme before Smith. Nothing against Smith, but he did have some nice holes to run through.

Two things about Brady...
1) he's finally getting some credit for doing something that is extremely important - moving around in the pocket. This seems to be a lost art these days, but I think those extra couple of seconds he buys means all the difference in the world to this team.

2) I think Tom Brady has officially entered the realm of Elway and Montana status. He just doesn't make very many mistakes, and you just know if he gets the last possesion in a close game he's going to drive the team down and score. He's young, and seems to be a bit immature, but if he can avoid letting this all go to his head and remain focused on the field...I think we may be watching the early stages of the career of one of our all-time great QBs.

[Easy Mac]

excellent point.

I was pretty confident the Pats would win - and there was no point in the game I thought this was in jeopardy - but they just don't blow out opponents. What they do is find a way to win - to beat them, you almost HAVE to blow them out; it's becoming routine for them to win in every single close game they play.

I do think Brady was the MVP, especially for those last 2 drives. Frankly, I would have given it to Vrabel, Branch or even Delhomme before Smith. Nothing against Smith, but he did have some nice holes to run through.

Two things about Brady...
1) he's finally getting some credit for doing something that is extremely important - moving around in the pocket. This seems to be a lost art these days, but I think those extra couple of seconds he buys means all the difference in the world to this team.

2) I think Tom Brady has officially entered the realm of Elway and Montana status. He just doesn't make very many mistakes, and you just know if he gets the last possesion in a close game he's going to drive the team down and score. He's young, and seems to be a bit immature, but if he can avoid letting this all go to his head and remain focused on the field...I think we may be watching the early stages of the career of one of our all-time great QBs.
Aside from the Montana reference, you just said the same thing about Delhomme.

[Draft Dodger]

Aside from the Montana reference, you just said the same thing about Delhomme.

I didn't say any such thing.

[cthomer5000]

2) I think Tom Brady has officially entered the realm of Elway and Montana status. He just doesn't make very many mistakes, and you just know if he gets the last possesion in a close game he's going to drive the team down and score. He's young, and seems to be a bit immature, but if he can avoid letting this all go to his head and remain focused on the field...I think we may be watching the early stages of the career of one of our all-time great QBs.
Amazingly, I agree. Of all the big hype QB's weve seen in the last 7-8 years, this guy has now won two Super Bowls, and been MVP twice (although the first one was the shakiest MVP nod ever).

He and Vinatieri could probably rule Boston as two kings.

[Ksyrup]

He and Vinatieri could probably rule Boston as two kings.
Did they wrench the crown from Ben and Matt's cold, dead careers?

[RendeR]

The very idea of comparing Brady to any of the top flight QB's in league history is a complete joke.

Yes he is competant, yes his team wins games.

The difference between those great Qb's and brady is that they COULD win games on their own with little or no help when they had to.

Brady has not shown that ability in his 3 years as the main man in new england.

When and if he does, I might consider him reaching for that zone. But not now, not even close.

[jeff061]

There are probably at least 5 or 6 games in 2001 and an equal amount in 2003 they would of lost without Brady, plus 2 super bowls. You don't need to carry a team and throw up ungodly stats to be a winner(see Manning).

That said, the idea is that he is in the beginning stages of a career that is top flight. Not that he is now. He's already won 2 more bowls than Dan Marino and he's got another 10-12 years in front of him.

[Desnudo]

The very idea of comparing Brady to any of the top flight QB's in league history is a complete joke.

Yes he is competant, yes his team wins games.

The difference between those great Qb's and brady is that they COULD win games on their own with little or no help when they had to.

Brady has not shown that ability in his 3 years as the main man in new england.

When and if he does, I might consider him reaching for that zone. But not now, not even close.

Huh, how many times does the guy have to throw five or ten completions in a row at the end of a game, or the clutch bomb for forty yards? If he's not winning it, who is? Branch, Johnson, Smith and Brown? Mr. Fumbles, Daniel Graham? Not exactly Rice and Taylor or Rod Smith, Ed Mcafree, Terrell Davis, and Shannon Sharpe is it?

[ISiddiqui]

I didn't say any such thing.

What he is saying is that if you took your 2 points and put 'Delhomme' in every time you said 'Brady', it would make no difference. The same can be said for Delhomme, basically (especially point 2).

[Easy Mac]

I didn't say any such thing.
Yes, what Issidiqui said, I mean to put "could" somewhere in my sentence.

[pjstp20]

The very idea of comparing Brady to any of the top flight QB's in league history is a complete joke.

Yes he is competant, yes his team wins games.

The difference between those great Qb's and brady is that they COULD win games on their own with little or no help when they had to.

Brady has not shown that ability in his 3 years as the main man in new england.

When and if he does, I might consider him reaching for that zone. But not now, not even close.Totally agree, comparisons are way out of line at this point. Super Bowls are team games, and not signs of individual greatness. How many 4thQ come backs does Brady have? Id venture to say if you take out 2 0f the last 3 Dolphin games it would be very few. Once he puts up 40 4thQ comebacks or even has a season where he's rated higher than 90.0 (Montana had more than a few) then we can think about comparing him. Remember Bob Greise won two Super Bowls early in his Career, but he's no Joe Montana or John Elway, or even Dan Marino for that matter.

[Desnudo]

How many 4thQ come backs does Brady have? Id venture to say if you take out 2 0f the last 3 Dolphin games it would be very few.

14 comeback wins after being tied or behind in the 4th. 6-0 in the playoffs. 7-0 in overtime games.

[pjstp20]

Alright then, he's got a bit of away to go. Comparisons at this stage of their careers would be more appropriate, but to say there even close to being equals yet is ridiculous. 14 seems a bit hi to me but I'll take your word for it.

[Desnudo]

6-0 in the playoffs. Only Aikman (7-0) and Theismann (6-0) are in that class. I would say he's ahead of Elway at this current stage of his career. Elway had some truly awful Superbowl performances and had the tag of being unable to win the big one for a long time. I would say that he's the equal of Montana in a comparision with where they both were. Montana himself has commented that he' s got the tools to be one of the greats. Obviously career comparisons are pointless right now since Brady has only played three seasons.

Edit: Records aside, I think the true measure of greatness is the "Who would you take?" question. And there is no one I'd rather see at QB for the Patriots than Tom Brady. Especially with the game on the line. It's all in the eyes.

[pjstp20]

Yeah you chowds are talking about team results. Bob Greise and Terry Bradshaw had good win loss records and post season victories, but there not among the greatest. And before you start saying that Elway had a great supporting cast, think about this. He brought 3 of the worst teams in history to the Super Bowl, by himself, and he sure didnt have the Defense Tom Brady has.

[Fonzie]

He and Vinatieri could probably rule Boston as two kings.

Jack Black and Kyle Gass will probably be cool with that, provided that their first decree is to legalize marijuana.

[Desnudo]

Yeah you chowds are talking about team results. Bob Greise and Terry Bradshaw had good win loss records and post season victories, but there not among the greatest. And before you start saying that Elway had a great supporting cast, think about this. He brought 3 of the worst teams in history to the Super Bowl, by himself.

If it's a team result, then replacing Brady shouldn't matter. But I guarantee that they don't win the Super Bowl without him. Or finish 14-2, or win more than a game or two in the playoffs.

Replacing Montana didn't matter to SF since Steve Young stepped in and won a Super Bowl. Does that mean that all of SF's victories were "team" and not due to Montana's greatness?

[pjstp20]

Edit: Records aside, I think the true measure of greatness is the "Who would you take?" question. And there is no one I'd rather see at QB for the Patriots than Tom Brady. Especially with the game on the line. It's all in the eyes.
Do you mean among active QBs or of any QB of all time? If its the latter your just being biased because outside of New England I dont think Brady is among the top 10.

[pjstp20]

If it's a team result, then replacing Brady shouldn't matter. But I guarantee that they don't win the Super Bowl without him. Or finish 14-2, or win more than a game or two in the playoffs.

Replacing Montana didn't matter to SF since Steve Young stepped in and won a Super Bowl. Does that mean that all of SF's victories were "team" and not due to Montana's greatness?
I think your last point shows that Super Bowls are definitly team efforts rather than that of one individual. Having a competant quarterback may be one of the biggest pieces of the puzzle, but in no way is it the only thing.

[Desnudo]

Active QBs. And I'd argue that you're biased as well, being a Dolphins fan.

I'm not talking about stats. I'm talking about intangibles. The only other guy I'd say is comparable in the latter is Steve McNair. Just because Brady isn't exciting or flashy, people tend to ignore the quality of his game. He did get 3rd in the season MVP voting, so some people outside NE must think he's in the top 10.

[pjstp20]

Well among active QBs I think he is amoung the top 3 right now. I may be biased but I do understand that Brady could be on his way to greatness, and it should make the AFC East interesting for the next few years. It just seems ridiculous that a sign of a QBs greatness are his Super Bowl rings when in fact that is a team effort. Marino never had the supporting cast yet in the mid 80s he carried the Dolphins, same with John Elway. I do think that Brady is more in line with Joe Montana because he does have the supporting cast and he has a coach who understands his limitations and implements a system where he can succede, without the raw skills of a John Elway or a Dan Marino.

[BishopMVP]

I may be biased but I do understand that Brady could be on his way to greatness, and it should make the AFC East interesting for the next few years.
I don't think Brady continuing on a path to greatness will be make the AFC East interesting these next few years. The Jets are rebuilding around Pennington, the Bills with Bledsoe will fall apart late every year and if the Dolphins get a young QB he'll be ready to step in right about when Ricky Williams goes on to the Eddie George-esque 2.9 YPC years, if he doesn't have an Earl Campbell-like early retirement.

As long as Belichick/Pioli/Brady/Crennel/Weis are together Miami will be lucky to win the division.

[jeff061]

Keeping in mind 2 in that group can and will leave the second they get the chance. Hopefully Belicheck is as good as reputation and the team isn't winning because of Weis and Crennel.

[BishopMVP]

Yeah, but I doubt both will leave after next season, maybe not even one. Crennel is an unknown because a lot of the credit goes to Belichick (deserved or not) and he doesn't seem to inspire people in interviews. Weis has been questionable at times with his playcalling, and I'm not sure how much we'd miss him (especially because we're grooming someone to use the same schemes.) The first 3 are the most important.

[Draft Dodger]

What he is saying is that if you took your 2 points and put 'Delhomme' in every time you said 'Brady', it would make no difference. The same can be said for Delhomme, basically (especially point 2).

except that I wasn't talking about just one game.

[Draft Dodger]

Well among active QBs I think he is amoung the top 3 right now. I may be biased but I do understand that Brady could be on his way to greatness, and it should make the AFC East interesting for the next few years. It just seems ridiculous that a sign of a QBs greatness are his Super Bowl rings when in fact that is a team effort. Marino never had the supporting cast yet in the mid 80s he carried the Dolphins, same with John Elway. I do think that Brady is more in line with Joe Montana because he does have the supporting cast and he has a coach who understands his limitations and implements a system where he can succede, without the raw skills of a John Elway or a Dan Marino.

Actually, the Super Bowl victories are way, way down on my list of reason to start mentioning him with Montana. Lots of really, really good QB's aren't walking around today wearing garish rings, while more than a couple mediocre ones have them. It's more about the way he has performed consistently in close games, playoffs and regular season.

It all boils down to this - never in the game did I have any doubt that the Pats would win. When the Panthers pulled ahead with a minute left, there was no question at all to me that Brady would march them down the field. There's not a lot of other quarterbacks I would have felt that way about. I could only think of 2, and I named them - Montana and Elway.

[RendeR]

Again, no-one is saying Brady is a bad QB or even one we wouldn't want to have on our fields for us, the comment that was made was that he was one of the best ever, and frankly, thats a load of Panther piss. no pun intended.....

Brady for one thing has an amazing defense working to his advantage. it regularly gives him the ball with great field position. Montana never had more than a second teir defense on hsi teams,a nd we won't even go near Denver's.

Brady has had some great comebacks, tru, but again, in many of those occasions other players set up those great plays. The miaami overtime game, Brown was supposed to even run that route, he broke it off and sped downfield when Brady scrambled. Without Brown's heads up play, thats a loss and who knows where your season goes from there?

I like Brady, but for god's sake try and be a little realistic here, he's not a hall of fame calibur QB and I seriously doubt he ever will be.

[ISiddiqui]

except that I wasn't talking about just one game.

I wasn't either :D.

[Draft Dodger]

I like Brady, but for god's sake try and be a little realistic here, he's not a hall of fame calibur QB and I seriously doubt he ever will be.

can we sticky this thread for about 15 years?

[tucker342]

John Kasay will be getting a check in the mail in the next few days signed by Bob Kraft.

oh give me a break... Kasay didn't lose the game for the Panthers... was he out there on defense when they let the Patriots drive down the field? NO!

It was'nt Kasay's fault that the defense couldn't stop them!

[pjstp20]

I don't think Brady continuing on a path to greatness will be make the AFC East interesting these next few years. The Jets are rebuilding around Pennington, the Bills with Bledsoe will fall apart late every year and if the Dolphins get a young QB he'll be ready to step in right about when Ricky Williams goes on to the Eddie George-esque 2.9 YPC years, if he doesn't have an Earl Campbell-like early retirement.

As long as Belichick/Pioli/Brady/Crennel/Weis are together Miami will be lucky to win the division.Typical arrogant Chowd comment, you probably thought the same thing when Tony Eason was going to the Super Bowl in 85. If you think you will have a "dynasty" year in and year out what happened last year? What? This great coaching staff that can win the AFC East at will decided just to take the year off???????? Wake up buddy, every year is different and everyone has a chance every year, and if we get a young QB to step in just in time for Ricky Williams to average 2.9 a carry I guess then we'll have your offense.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

pjstp is very astute on his football knowledge, especially about anything Patriots. See previous thread.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showthread.php?t=18216&page=2&pp=30

See post #32, #95, #102.

[jeff061]

pjstp is just a priceless guy. Its been very hard not to take his troll bait the last couple days ;).

[pjstp20]

Still doesnt answer the question at hand, plus I later admited I made those comments in the moment. God this is gonna be a long offseason.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

How can you not. This is way too much fun!!

[BishopMVP]

Brady for one thing has an amazing defense working to his advantage. it regularly gives him the ball with great field position. Montana never had more than a second teir defense on hsi teams,a nd we won't even go near Denver's.
If you're going to compare supporting casts, any gain from the defense is offset by the huge gap in offensive talent. Other than maybe an O-Lineman or two, no other Patriot would start on offense for either SF when Montana/Young led them or Denver when Elway led them.

Brady has had some great comebacks, tru, but again, in many of those occasions other players set up those great plays. The miaami overtime game, Brown was supposed to even run that route, he broke it off and sped downfield when Brady scrambled. Without Brown's heads up play, thats a loss and who knows where your season goes from there?
So, while evading the rush, Brady realizes his WR has changed his route, adjusts and throws a ball that hits the WR in stride for a TD and all the credit goes to the receiver? Also, it wouldn't have necessarily been a loss, considering we still would have had the ball.

Typical arrogant Chowd comment,
To be honest, half that was just to annoy you a little. Besides, it ain't braggin' if you can back it up. :p

you probably thought the same thing when Tony Eason was going to the Super Bowl in 85.
Can't say that I did, since I was born in '85.

If you think you will have a "dynasty" year in and year out what happened last year?
There is a difference between a dynasty and winning the AFC East. The 2001 team was lucky to win the Super Bowl. Last year, they were unlucky to miss the playoffs (but we did keep Miami out, so that helps a little)

Wake up buddy, every year is different and everyone has a chance every year, and if we get a young QB to step in just in time for Ricky Williams to average 2.9 a carry I guess then we'll have your offense.
Now, if you get a QB as good as Brady, our defense and our coaching, you'll be on to something. Have fun next year with Wannstedt and whichever middle of the road QB you end up choosing.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Still doesnt answer the question at hand, plus I later admited I made those comments in the moment. God this is gonna be a long offseason.

You still made them and so you got to live on your track record.

I hate to say it again, but you will never understand the greatness of Brady by watching Sportscenter highlights. I've seen every game on Sunday Ticket for 3 years, now; and when you do that, his greatness is obvious.

You would also notice that when the defense plays good, he manages the game and does enough to win. When the defense is playing crummy (see 1st Titans game and SB), he picks it up and does enough to win.

Now, is he as great as Montana now? Of course not, Montana has numerous seasons under his belt. But at this stage in Brady's career, he is as good.

Why don't we just take it from a few people who would know. Bill Walsh and Joe Montana himself. In interviews, both of the say he has the look of greatness.

[pjstp20]

I'll tell you Patsies this right now!!! I will be at Pro Player for the Pats Dolphins game next season, I will have a thread stating that I'm going to said game, and when we win, your arogance will be child's play compared to the wrath I'll lay upon you.

(insert evil laughter)

[Vinatieri for Prez]

I'll tell you Patsies this right now!!! I will be at Pro Player for the Pats Dolphins game next season, I will have a thread stating that I'm going to said game, and when we win, your arogance will be child's play compared to the wrath I'll lay upon you.

Of course, you'd pick a home game to make that prediction. Why not wait until we see who wins the AFC East next year. :D

[BishopMVP]

I'll tell you Patsies this right now!!! I will be at Pro Player for the Pats Dolphins game next season, I will have a thread stating that I'm going to said game, and when we win, your arogance will be child's play compared to the wrath I'll lay upon you.
Assuming they do win, which is possible, when do we get to start the thread about the Dolphins losing at Gillette and missing the playoffs?

[Draft Dodger]

Assuming they do win, which is possible, when do we get to start the thread about the Dolphins losing at Gillette and missing the playoffs?

I believe the Dolphins missing the playoffs threads usually start around December 1st.

[pjstp20]

Im hoping the home game victory will be in December, completing the sweep of the Patriots, and clinching the division.

(Please God, you've given so much to the Chowder Heads in the past few seasons, why not throw us Dolphin fans a bone? Please let this happen, Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!!!!!!)

[BishopMVP]

(Please God, you've given so much to the Chowder Heads in the past few seasons, why not throw us Dolphin fans a bone? Please let this happen, Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!!!!!!)
Because, as one journalist pointed out, it's God's punishment on the two cities. New England cares the most about the Red Sox and yet the Pats win Super Bowls, while Miami cares about football and the Marlins win World Series.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Typical arrogant Chowd comment, you probably thought the same thing when Tony Eason was going to the Super Bowl in 85.In '85, Eason was going to his first Super Bowl (and I remember Grogan having a good bit to do with it himself, although I was rather younger at the time and my memory isn't all that reliable). Brady's been to two and won both, and the next one Eason wins will be his first. No comparison, none.

[pjstp20]

Because, as one journalist pointed out, it's God's punishment on the two cities. New England cares the most about the Red Sox and yet the Pats win Super Bowls, while Miami cares about football and the Marlins win World Series.
Hmmmmm I never thought about that but what an irony it is. In refrence to Mr.Wednesday I wasnt attempting to compare Brady to Eason, I was just illustarating the Chowds mindset of jumping the gun.

[Peregrine]

New England cares the most about the Red Sox and yet the Pats win Super Bowls,

Heh my coworker with is a big Boston fan in all sports constantly complains about this. He constantly says things like "I'd give up the Pats Super Bowl (now 2) win for a Red Sox World Series in a heartbeat, they're the REAL Boston team."