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Calis
03-03-2004, 01:46 PM
Some interesting stuff I just ran across browsing Fox Sports World to see what they had lined up to show this coming week.

Manchester United is not surprisingly #1, but a couple things that really surprised me where the Redskins being #2 here. I guess I didn't realize they were that popular merchandise-wise. Even more shocking is the fact the Browns are the 9th richest franchise in the States. Didn't see that one coming.

Gotta love the fact that Leeds is #16 on the list, that's impressive all things considered. :)

LONDON (AP)— List of the world's richest soccer clubs and U.S. sports franchises based on revenues for 2002-2003, compiled by sports business group Deloitte & Touche. Dollar rate based on ?1.15 at June 30, 2003:

1 - Manchester United - ?251.4 million (US$289 million)

2 - Juventus - ?218.3 million (US$251 million)

3 - AC Milan - ?200.2 million (US$230.2 million)

4 - Real Madrid - ?192.6 million (US$221.5 million)

5 - Bayern Munich - ?162.7 million (US$187.1 million)

6 - Inter Milan - ?162.4 million (US$186.8 million)

7 - Arsenal - ?149.6 million (US$172 million)

8 - Liverpool - ?149.4 million (US$171.8 million)

9 - Newcastle United - ?138.9 million (US$159.7 million)

10 - Chelsea - ?133.8 million (US$153.9 million)

11 - AS Roma - ?132.4 million (US$152.3 million)

12 - Borussia Dortmund - ?124 million (US$142.6 million)

13 - Barcelona - ?123.4 million (US$141.9 million)

14 - Schalke 04 - ?118.6 million (US$136.4 million)

15 - Tottenham - ?95.6 million (US$109.9 million)

16 - Leeds United - ?92 million (US$105.8 million)

17 - Lazio - ?88.9 million (US$102.2 million)

18 - Glasgow Celtic - ?87 million (US$187 million)

19 - Lyon - ?84.3 million (US$96.9 million)

20 - Valencia - ?80.5 million (US$92.6 million)

U.S.

1 - New York Yankees - ?243.8 million (US$280.4 million)

2 - Washington Redskins - ?197.7 million (US$227.3 million)

3 - Boston Red Sox - ?184.6 million (US$212.3 million)

4 - Seattle Mariners - ?181.4 million (US$208.6 million)

5 - Dallas Cowboys - ?172.4 million (US$198.3 million)

tied 6 - San Francisco Giants - ?168.1 million (US$193.3 million)

tied 6 - Houston Texans - ?168.1 million (US$193.3 million)

8 - New England Patriots - ?164.6 million (US$189.3 million)

9 - Cleveland Browns - ?151.5 million (US$174.2 million)

10 - New York Mets - ?150.6 million (US173.2 million)


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Barkeep49
03-03-2004, 01:49 PM
For those of us less informed about soccer why is it surprising Leeds is 16?

Ryan S
03-03-2004, 01:50 PM
For those of us less informed about soccer why is it surprising Leeds is 16?
Leeds are over $150 million in debt

rkmsuf
03-03-2004, 01:50 PM
The Red Sox are 7th in the world and are nickel and diming Nomar? Bad John Henry, bad John Henry...

Calis
03-03-2004, 01:51 PM
For those of us less informed about soccer why is it surprising Leeds is 16?

More or less just ironic, because Leeds has basically broken the record for the biggest debt in soccer over there. I can't remember how far down they've got, but it ain't pretty. They've been treading water the past two years or so.

EDIT: Oops, Ryan S beat me to it. I'll just back him up on it. ;)

SunDancer
03-03-2004, 01:52 PM
The suprising teams prolly have new stadiums, which push up values. Isn't Manchester worth about $1 Billion (US)? The values seem low. If I remember correctly, didn't Murdock offer that much for them a few years back?

cthomer5000
03-03-2004, 01:53 PM
The suprising teams prolly have new stadiums, which push up values. Isn't Manchester worth about $1 Billion (US)? The values seem low. If I remember correctly, didn't Murdock offer that much for them a few years back?
Those aren't the values listed, those are the profits from last year.

Ksyrup
03-03-2004, 01:53 PM
It's not surprising, since this is based solely on revenues, which is only one side of the ledger. Now, if they tried to sell the team, the asking price would be heavily influenced by the debt.

cthomer5000
03-03-2004, 01:54 PM
So why are stadiums publicly funded again?

rkmsuf
03-03-2004, 01:55 PM
So why are stadiums publicly funded again?

Exactly...

mckerney
03-03-2004, 02:05 PM
So why are stadiums publicly funded again?

Because teams will be able to find some city/state willing to pay for it.

cthomer5000
03-03-2004, 02:13 PM
Because teams will be able to find some city/state willing to pay for it.
There really should be laws against this shit.

rkmsuf
03-03-2004, 02:15 PM
What are the odds that Big Stein asks for public funds for a new Yankee ballpark on the West side?

GrantDawg
03-03-2004, 02:19 PM
What are the odds that Big Stein asks for public funds for a new Yankee ballpark on the West side?
That is a given.

HornedFrog Purple
03-03-2004, 02:23 PM
Where is Notre Dame?

cody8200
03-03-2004, 07:37 PM
South Bend, IN ;)

judicial clerk
03-03-2004, 08:52 PM
I am suprised that Pro Football teams that only play a 16 game season would make this list.

ISiddiqui
03-03-2004, 08:59 PM
Yeah, but what about their TV deal and merchandise?

judicial clerk
03-03-2004, 09:16 PM
The TV deal must be very sweet for the NFL to beat out other leagues who play five ad ten times as many regular season games.

sooner333
03-03-2004, 09:18 PM
The Giants have a large revenue, but also a large debt on their privately financed ballpark. Much of the revenue goes to that...that is how the numbers can be decieving.