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Young Drachma
03-09-2004, 07:49 PM
I know, its hardly a new flash. But, CNN gets a black dude from Rolling Stone and MTV, who talks about crap...he's on there a lot and he's a huge favorite.
They're talking about how apparently Miami racially profiles rappers and stuff in the city when the visit. They've got "Toure" or whatever his name is, giving this dude like hell and he's yelling at him. Like just bereating this talk show host person - who is playing the "counterpoint" conservative on this.
Its one thing to argue that its unfair - I think its a bit much, when they're just a step below actors (hell, some of them are actors too), but hey...its not like if they didn't admit it, anyone wouldn't know anyway.
My point was simply to say that I love how they get the most reactionary colored person they can find, to yell at white people, tell them how they're all racist and it just raises the fears of folks who might otherwise be swayed by their arguments.
Like it would be that difficult to find a conscise, non-threatening bro to talk on TV with credbility about music? Okay...just kidding. I know that can't happen.
On a side note, Jayson Blair will be on Larry King tonight. I hope no one buys his book. That bastard probably set progress of blacks in the newsroom back ten years. Okay, not quite ten. But he'll have people thinking twice because of his antics, when in reality..he was just a bad seed that they let sprout into a tree.
JonInMiddleGA
03-09-2004, 08:02 PM
... when in reality..he was just a bad seed that they let sprout into a tree.
Hmm ... it appears he must have scattered that seed a bit.
http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/8126263.htm
Telegraph reporter fired after questions raised about stories
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By Charlie Lanter
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Telegraph Staff Writer
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<!-- begin body-content --> A Telegraph reporter was fired Friday after editors were notified of similarities between a story he wrote in October 2003 and one that previously appeared in the San Diego Union-Tribune.
Khalil Abdullah's story, about declining enrollment in high school automotive technology classes, contained several passages that were nearly identical to paragraphs from the Union-Tribune story, which was published July 14, 2003.
Abdullah, who covered education for The Telegraph, admitted Saturday that he had copied material from other newspapers but said he was unsure why he did it.
"I'm gonna have to live with the fact that a lot of people trusted me, and a lot of people respected me, and I let them down," he said. "I'm just sorry that it brought The Telegraph undeserved attention."
Telegraph Executive Editor Sherrie Marshall said editors met Friday with Abdullah after an editor from the Union-Tribune called to point out similarities between Abdullah's story about automotive classes in high schools and the story that appeared in the San Diego newspaper.
Abdullah was fired after that meeting.
"We had a reasonable belief that what we had been told (by San Diego) was correct," Marshall said.
She said editors then decided to look more closely at Abdullah's stories and found that portions of other stories appeared to be copied from other newspapers.
Editors are still investigating stories written by Abdullah since he began working for The Telegraph in September 2002. By Saturday evening, they had found 20 stories written by Abdullah that contained passages and quotes that appeared to be copied from stories in the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times, Washington Post, Baltimore (Md.) Sun, New York Times and other newspapers. Marshall said she was calling editors of those newspapers to apologize.
Friday was not the first time Abdullah left a newspaper under a cloud. He acknowledged Saturday having left the Fort Worth Star-Telegram after being accused of copying material from another publication.
Asked why he did it again at The Telegraph, Abdullah said: "I certainly would want to say that I knew better. It's something that we don't do in this business and feel good about."
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The Middle Georgia Association of Black Journalists issued a statement Saturday condemning what Abdullah had done and commending The Telegraph's "quick and decisive action." Abdullah was president of the organization but resigned immediately, according to the statement.
The association is "dedicated to the highest ethical standards of journalism and stands ready to heal this breach in readers' confidence caused by Abdullah's actions," the statement says.
Abdullah said that he will be immediately looking for another job - but not in journalism.
"I don't think that I'll ever try to work in newspapers again," he said. "I've always enjoyed writing, but at this time I don't see myself working in newspapers."
Young Drachma
03-09-2004, 08:13 PM
Right, but if you look at plenty of the same types of non-black journalists who were found to be plagarizing or having stringers write stories for them, these folks spring up elsewhere.
The biggest example is Mike Barnicle, who used to work for the Boston Globe. He's on MSNBC quite a bit. I mean, what Jayson Blair did was outrageous. But it forces papers to look into the backgrounds of the people they hire, to make sure they're qualified.
I worked at the Globe last summer and we were constantly being reminded about it. I think its about educating people and grooming them - not using it to paint with a big brush and say "see, all those colored folks are plagarists"
JonInMiddleGA
03-09-2004, 08:21 PM
it forces papers to look into the backgrounds of the people they hire, to make sure they're qualified.
Seemed to work real well for The Macon Telegraph.
Marshall said she was aware of the reason Abdullah left the Star-Telegram, but that after lengthy discussions with a number of people, some of whom knew or worked with him, The Telegraph decided to offer him another opportunity.
"We talked about the mistakes, but we also saw the talent, the potential and the promise and decided to give him a second chance," she said.
Young Drachma
03-10-2004, 01:05 PM
Yeah, its only affirmative action hires who plagarize. Let's get rid of that now and it'll be eradicated.
President of Central Connecticut State U. Is Accused of Plagiarism
By AUDREY WILLIAMS JUNE
The president of Central Connecticut State University plagiarized parts of an opinion article he wrote for The Hartford Courant last month, the newspaper told its readers on Tuesday.
In an apology headlined "Every Editor's Nightmare," the newspaper's editorial-page editor explained that one of its readers had accused Richard L. Judd of using verbatim text from other sources, including an editorial that ran just over a year ago in The New York Times.
"It's hard to imagine Pulitzer Prize-winning authors and a university president passing off other people's sentences as their own," wrote John J. Zakarian, the editorial-page editor, referring to plagiarism accusations in recent years that have tarnished two popular historians. "The Courant regrets publishing Judd's article."
Mr. Judd's article, which appeared in February 26 editions of the Courant, described how peace is an attainable goal for the island of Cyprus, which has been divided for 40 years between its majority Greek and minority Turkish populations.
Mr. Judd, who has said he used the material inadvertently, was out of the country on university business on Tuesday and could not be reached for comment.
However, the chancellor of the Connecticut State University System, William J. Cibes Jr., said that Mr. Judd had been asked to cut his trip short in order to meet as soon as possible with the university's Board of Trustees about the allegations.
"Once the board is able to get together with President Judd, they will assess the allegations and hear his comments and make a decision about what to do," Mr. Cibes said.
If the board decides to take action against Mr. Judd, the chancellor said, penalties could range from a reprimand to termination.
Mr. Judd's article said: "The U.N. plan may not be perfect, but rejecting it would be a worse alternative for both Cypriot communities." The Times editorial, which ran January 7, 2003, said: "Mr. Annan's plan may not be perfect, but rejecting it would be a worse alternative for both Cypriot communities."
In the Courant's apology, Mr. Judd is quoted as explaining that he had "consulted many sources" and taken "copious notes" to help prepare the many speeches he had given on Cyprus. One of the speeches later became the basis for the Courant article, he said.
"I mistakenly assumed notes I had made were my own, and I thus incorporated them without attribution," he told the Courant. "As an author of many texts and articles, I should have done a better job of vetting my text. I had no intention of using another's words or misleading readers in describing my sense of events in Cyprus."
Two years ago, Mr. Judd was reprimanded by the trustees for impersonating a police officer. He received a letter of "displeasure" from the board after he admitted that he had used flashing lights on his university-owned car, along with an official-looking badge, to pull over a driver who he thought was speeding on a street near Central Connecticut's campus.
Ksyrup
03-10-2004, 01:12 PM
They're talking about how apparently Miami racially profiles rappers and stuff in the city when the visit. They've got "Toure" or whatever his name is, giving this dude like hell and he's yelling at him. Like just bereating this talk show host person - who is playing the "counterpoint" conservative on this.
You want to talk about profiling...King's X played Tallahassee last May and had its tour bus pulled over about an hour west of Tally on I-10. The rationale the troopers used was that they were in a tour bus, and with heightened terrorism concerns, the troopers were inspecting all busses for concealed weapons. So they come on the bus and say, "You're musicians, so if you have any illegal drugs, hand them over now and we will let you go. If you tell us you don't and we find them, we'll arrest you."
So of course, they gave up their stash. But after that, the troopers took off. They basically used the terrorism angle to scare them into letting them onto the bus to get their drugs, and that was all they wanted. I wouldn't doubt it if they sat in their "black and tan" and smoked it all away...
JonInMiddleGA
03-10-2004, 01:33 PM
Yeah, its only affirmative action hires who plagarize.
You said that, I didn't.
It just seemed that, in light of your reference to Blair,
the story from this weekend in Macon was rather timely.
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