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CamEdwards
03-11-2004, 06:57 PM
Spying for Iraq, no less.

story from USA Today (hxxp://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-03-11-american-iraq_x.htm)


NEW YORK (AP) — A former journalist and congressional press secretary was arrested Thursday on charges she acted as an Iraqi spy before and after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, accepting $10,000 for her work, prosecutors said Thursday.
Susan Lindauer, 41, was arrested in her hometown of Takoma Park, Md., and was to appear in court later in the day in Baltimore, authorities in New York said.
She was accused of conspiring to act as a spy for the Iraqi Intelligence Service and engaging in prohibited financial transactions involving the government of Iraq under dictator Saddam Hussein.

Lindauer worked at Fortune, U.S. News & World Report and the Seattle Post-Intelligencer before beginning her career as a political publicist.

She worked for Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore. in 1993 and then Rep. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., in 1994 before joining the office of former Illinois Sen. Carol Moseley Braun as press secretary in 1996. From March to May 2002, she worked for Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif.

"Her position was eliminated in the downsizing following the 1994 elections," said Josh Kardon, chief of staff for now-Sen. Wyden. "She worked for us a short period of time."

Braun's current spokesperson, Loretta Kane, said the former senator does not remember Lindauer.

According to an indictment filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Lindauer made multiple visits from October 1999 through March 2002 to the Iraqi Mission to the United Nations in Manhattan.

There, she met with several members of the Iraqi Intelligence Service, the foreign intelligence arm of the government of Iraq that allegedly has played a role in terrorist operations, including an attempted assassination of former President George H.W. Bush, the indictment alleged.

The government said she accepted payments from the Iraqis for her services and expenses amounting to a total of $10,000, including $5,000 she received during a trip to Baghdad in February and March 2002.

Her acceptance of the money and her willingness to bring it home from Iraq violated a law prohibiting transactions with a government that sponsors international terrorism, the government said. The indictment did not specify a motive.

The charges against Lindauer were included in an expanded indictment in the case against Raed Rokan Al-Anbuge, 28, and Wisam Noman Al-Anbuke, the sons of Iraq's former liaison with United Nations weapons inspectors.
The brothers were charged last year with acting as Iraqi government agents and conspiring to do so, prosecutors said. The indictment said Lindauer conspired with the brothers.

On Jan. 8, 2003, prosecutors said, Lindauer tried to influence U.S. foreign policy by delivering to the home of a U.S. government official a letter in which she conveyed her access to and contacts with members of Saddam's regime. The official was not identified in the indictment.

The United States invaded Iraq in March of last year, and the government fell the following month.

The indictment said she met on two occasions in Baltimore in June and July with an undercover FBI agent who posed as a Libyan intelligence representative who was seeking to support resistance groups in postwar Iraq. It said she discussed the need for plans and foreign resources to support these groups.

According to the indictment, she continued to correspond with the undercover agent until last month and followed the agent's instructions to leave packages on two occasions in August in "dead drop" operations.

Lindauer, who was not immediately assigned a defense lawyer, faces up to 10 years in prison on the most serious charge and five years on the lesser charge if she is convicted, prosecutors said.

More than a half dozen FBI agents could be seen searching Lindauer's residence in Takoma Park, a city known for its liberal views. Her neighbors recalled her as friendly.

Joao Luiz Vieire de Castro, 39, described Lindauer as "a regular American who walks her dog in the mornings and the afternoon."

"It's a big surprise. Who would think that it's (espionage) in your neighborhood?" said Dean Paris, 45, who sometimes greeted Lindauer on the street, which is less than a mile from the District of Columbia line. Paris said he never saw anything suspicious.

But Malvina Lacey, who lives next door to Lindauer, added, "She lives in a fantasy world."


This is better than Christmas for me. A former member of the liberal media who was also a mouthpiece for Democratic members of Congress is arrested for conspiring to spy for Iraq?

Someone pinch me, because this must be a dream. :)

JonInMiddleGA
03-11-2004, 07:08 PM
I think the part where Moseley-Braun didn't remember her was my personal favorite.

NoMyths
03-11-2004, 07:08 PM
So you're happy that some of our citizens are working against the country? Personally, the whole thing makes me sick...no matter what political side she's on.

If this news is "better than Christmas" for you, you're taking politics as a game of 'my side versus their side' way too seriously. Personally I hate to see this kind of corruption at any level of our government, from any political side.

JonInMiddleGA
03-11-2004, 07:11 PM
Personally I hate to see this kind of corruption at any level of our government, from any political side.
Then I hope you don't take too close a look at a good bit of what goes on.
AFAIC, the only difference between this woman & some of her colleagues is that her acts were more overt, others are more subtle.

CamEdwards
03-11-2004, 07:26 PM
So you're happy that some of our citizens are working against the country? Personally, the whole thing makes me sick...no matter what political side she's on.

If this news is "better than Christmas" for you, you're taking politics as a game of 'my side versus their side' way too seriously. Personally I hate to see this kind of corruption at any level of our government, from any political side.

I'm happy she was caught, not that she was willing to betray her government.

Actually, I think the only thing that could make it better is if she were somehow related to someone in the Bush administration, and he put country above family and turned her in.

Oh wait. That happened too. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4506229/). :)

And she said "I'm an antiwar activist."

When does she come out in support of John Kerry?

Sorry, excuse my giddiness. :)

By the way, if there truly is a thing called karma, all of us gloating conservatives will be brought down to earth when it's revealed that Colin Powell will be John Kerry's running mate. ;)

NoMyths
03-11-2004, 07:44 PM
I'm happy she was caught, not that she was willing to betray her governmentGlad to hear it. We can share that position together, at least.

Draft Dodger
03-11-2004, 07:48 PM
$10,000 dollars doesn't seem like very much money to betray your country.

sabotai
03-11-2004, 07:49 PM
Doesn't sound liek she was a very good spy.

Leonidas
03-11-2004, 07:59 PM
$10,000 dollars doesn't seem like very much money to betray your country.

Because she's what they call in the trade an "idealist". She probably only took the money to make herself look credible to the Iraqis. They had a clip of her being led off in cuffs on the news and the b***h actually had a smile on her face. I think she feels like she's serving the cause and probably looks forward to making a circus out of her trial.

CamEdwards
03-11-2004, 08:52 PM
maybe she can be Martha's bitch.

BigJohn&TheLions
03-12-2004, 12:28 AM
I'm happy she was caught, not that she was willing to betray her government.

Still, you seem to be a bit too happy. I believe she should be shot. I also believe that we should follow General John Pershing's cue and dip our bullets in pigs blood before killing these bastard terrorists, then shove their heads up the asses of the pig's carcass before cremating them.

I am disgusted when ANY AMERICAN betray's this nation. Even though I am a registered Democrat (and have voted for Republicans who I liked) I would not be "giddy" if the Bush twins were caught spying. You Cam, should be ashamed for reveling in the fact that one of your political foes is a traitor. Unfortunatly you are one of many in this nation who put partisan politics above what is truly important... Steve Gutenberg (OK, just kidding. thought I'd lighten the mood a bit! Although I do believe everything I said before S.G!)

Desnudo
03-12-2004, 03:16 AM
$10,000 dollars doesn't seem like very much money to betray your country.

It probably gets you the weekly dinner menu. From what it reads like, she didn't have a whole lot of access to anything except ears and is basically a kook. A Jane Fonda wannabe more or less. :p

JPhillips
03-12-2004, 08:07 AM
Don't forget she was also the daughter of a former Republican candidate for governor and cousin of White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card. In fact she got caught because of what she told Card.

This lady is less a traitor than a nutcase. She has claimed that the CIA told her the Lockerbie bombings were not done by a Libyan. She also thinks she was responsible for getting weapons inspectors back in Iraq. And somehow claims she has done more to stop terrorism than anyone in the USA. Her neighbor says Lindauer, "lives in a fantasy world."

Now I'm all for questioning the wisdom of hiring this nut, but to imply that this taints all Democrats as spies is ridiculous. What would your reaction have been to the headline, "Member of Prominent Republican Family Spies for Iraq!" Bash her all you want, bash her former employers for hiring a loon, but spare me the righteous indignation.

I'm also waiting for your outrage concerning prominent Republican and Presidential advisor Grover Norquist's fundraising for terrorist organizations. Clearly this shows that Bush and all other Republicans support terrorism.

CamEdwards
03-12-2004, 08:14 AM
What would my reaction have been? Read the headline from the Seattle Post Intelligencer (or at least the online version I saw a few hours ago). "Accused Spy Is Cousin Of Bush Staffer".

In fact, I've yet to see the headline "Former Democratic Congressional Staffer Accused of Spying". I'm not holding my breath either. :)

And if you're going to accuse Grover Norquist of fundraising a terrorist organization, you might as well accuse him of founding a terrorist organization. After all, he started the Islamic Institute with Khaled Saffuri.

Dutch
03-12-2004, 08:03 PM
Now I'm all for questioning the wisdom of hiring this nut, but to imply that this taints all Democrats as spies is ridiculous. What would your reaction have been to the headline, "Member of Prominent Republican Family Spies for Iraq!" Bash her all you want, bash her former employers for hiring a loon, but spare me the righteous indignation.

How quickly the rattlesnakes turn on their own...

:D

Bubba Wheels
03-12-2004, 08:06 PM
Gee, they found someone crooked in congress. That's quite a surprise. John Stewart told Paula Zahn that John Kerry 'was hollow, and inside he's filled with gumballs." I would believe that. Gumballs and waffles? :cool:

Leonidas
03-12-2004, 08:30 PM
What would my reaction have been? Read the headline from the Seattle Post Intelligencer (or at least the online version I saw a few hours ago). "Accused Spy Is Cousin Of Bush Staffer".

In fact, I've yet to see the headline "Former Democratic Congressional Staffer Accused of Spying". I'm not holding my breath either. :)

And if you're going to accuse Grover Norquist of fundraising a terrorist organization, you might as well accuse him of founding a terrorist organization. After all, he started the Islamic Institute with Khaled Saffuri.

Of course the press is holding this to a low profile. It would out one of their own. They don't like this anymore the Mosely-Braun or Andrew Card. This one pretty much stains everyone.

Buccaneer
03-12-2004, 08:54 PM
cousin of White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card
I like how the media and certain people are saying "cousin". It's distant cousin, is it not? We each have over a million distant cousins if we go back far enough.

Desnudo
03-13-2004, 02:00 AM
What would my reaction have been? Read the headline from the Seattle Post Intelligencer (or at least the online version I saw a few hours ago). "Accused Spy Is Cousin Of Bush Staffer".

In fact, I've yet to see the headline "Former Democratic Congressional Staffer Accused of Spying". I'm not holding my breath either. :)

And if you're going to accuse Grover Norquist of fundraising a terrorist organization, you might as well accuse him of founding a terrorist organization. After all, he started the Islamic Institute with Khaled Saffuri.

I wouldn't hold your breath if you are expecting anything out of Seattle besides that.

stkelly52
03-13-2004, 02:24 AM
So you're happy that some of our citizens are working against the country? Personally, the whole thing makes me sick...no matter what political side she's on.

If this news is "better than Christmas" for you, you're taking politics as a game of 'my side versus their side' way too seriously. Personally I hate to see this kind of corruption at any level of our government, from any political side.
How could you not think that Cam would be happy to see this? Cam is a Conservative talk radio host. This gives him a lot more ammo to use on his show. Any talk show host gets giddy when someone gets caught doing something that discredits the other political party in any way. It gives them days of subject material to use on their show.

Sharpieman
03-13-2004, 04:26 AM
Still, you seem to be a bit too happy. I believe she should be shot. I also believe that we should follow General John Pershing's cue and dip our bullets in pigs blood before killing these bastard terrorists, then shove their heads up the asses of the pig's carcass before cremating them.

I am disgusted when ANY AMERICAN betray's this nation. Even though I am a registered Democrat (and have voted for Republicans who I liked) I would not be "giddy" if the Bush twins were caught spying. You Cam, should be ashamed for reveling in the fact that one of your political foes is a traitor. Unfortunatly you are one of many in this nation who put partisan politics above what is truly important... Steve Gutenberg (OK, just kidding. thought I'd lighten the mood a bit! Although I do believe everything I said before S.G!)

I couldn't have agreed with you more. If Cheney or one of the Bush aides helped spy for Bin Laden or Saddam, I wouldn't be happy about it, thats just shallow. You obviously don't care about Americans interests, only the conservatives interests, Cam. :rolleyes: