OT: Is Missouri?

[MizzouRah]

The biggest disappointment in college basketball? Getting beat 3 times by Kansas and sent packing into the NIT tournament (probably).

I don't know what happened to Quinn, but he lost the team quite some time ago. Maybe Kansas just plays their a** off against Mizzou, but for the last 4-5 games, Missouri has 0 in terms of defense.

Anyhow, I'm thinking this could be the biggest disappointment... at least in Missouri history. :(

I hope we're ranking #300 to start the season next year.



Todd

[ice4277]

Mizzou was a top ten team to start the year, right? I would definitely have to say they have greatly underachieved, based off preseason predictions. I would say they were the biggest disappointment this season at this point, but if Michigan State goes one and done in the tourney they may get my vote.

[ice4277]

dola

I don't think I would say they are the biggest disappointing team either, but I could see how you could. After all, you are not a Detroit Lions fan ;)

[The_herd]

Disappointing season for them in so many areas. I think Paulding's play this season was probably the biggest disappointment, from an outsiders perspective. Johnson not showing any improvements was disappointing. Quinn waiting so long to get Conley in his rotation was not only disappointing, but surprising as well. This is a team that really looked like they expected to win just by showing up, but then never recovered from loses to Gonzaga and Illinois early in the season. The season was pretty much over with the loss to Nebraska following the 1st loss to Kansas. The loss to Belmont was so bad its really not worth mentioning.

I don't really know what to think of Quinn. I don't want to call him overrated, or say he should be fired, because he's done a pretty good job prior to this season. He's a young coach, so hopefully this goes down as a learning experience for him.

[MizzouRah]

dola

I don't think I would say they are the biggest disappointing team either, but I could see how you could. After all, you are not a Detroit Lions fan ;)

:)


I guess more from a Missouri sports fan's point, but I think they were ranked like #4 to start the season. To me, Missouri had all the talent, but no coach to lead them anywhere?


Todd

[ice4277]

Well, I still think Snyder is a good coach, and I think it would be a bit harsh to fire him after one poor season when you look at what they have done in the last few years. However, that has never stopped quick-fire ADs in the past, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it happened to him this year.

[Poli]

Bah. Friggin Mizzou.

[sooner333]

OU was a pretty big dissapointment, not because they weren't title contenders, but because they didn't make the NCAA's at all. They are a young team, but considering they lost to Texas three times (including last night, having eleven point leads twice, one in each half), Oklahoma State twice, Kansas, Colorado, and Missouri (a game where there was another big lead later in the second half...at home). It's not that they lost games they shouldn't have...but its they never won any big ones. Thus, its the National Invitational Tournament.

[rexallllsc]

Anyhow, I'm thinking this could be the biggest disappointment... at least in Missouri history. :(


You mean besides this?
http://www.spin-web.com/Tyus/tyus.carried.jpg

:)

[MizzouRah]

You mean besides this?
http://www.spin-web.com/Tyus/tyus.carried.jpg

:)

:D Whoops! That or the "off the foot" Nebraska TD catch.


Todd

[Poli]

DOOMED.

[kcchief19]

I don't know that to think anymore. On the one hand, we knew that when we hired a guy who had never been a head coach before that there would be growing pains. Quin has recruited very well, as expected, but he has probably stuggled more with the Xs and Os than anybody expected.

In past off seasons, Quin's name has come up with other jobs. In the past, I hoped that he would stay. This year, if his name comes up for a job, I won't mind if he leaves. However, the only circumstance under which I would want him fired would be if the NCAA investigation comes back with something more damning than we have seen so far and/or there is a postseason ban involved.

I don't think either will happen. All indications point to a slap on the wrist, and the bloom is off Quin's rose enough that I don't think anyone will come a knocking.

This team seemed to find a new way to lose all the time. Some nights it was because they shot too many threes, some nights it was because they played no defense. To a large degree, I think that the team's problem's the last few years, particularly this year, was the lack of a point guard. There is not a point guard on this team.

If this team had been more efficient on offense last night, they would have had KU down by 20 at halftime. This entire season come down to missed opportunities. This team missed more chances to come back, build leads and win ball games, and so much of it stemmed from the fact that on offense, there was no leader and no one dictating the pace of the game.

If Jason Horton can be be a real PG and not a pretend PG (not sure about Spencer Laurie) or a horrible stopgap measure (bye-bye, Randy Pulley), there are pieces in place to make next year's team awesome. Gardner is simply amazing, I still think McKinney has tremendous upside and Kleiza looks to be what Travon Bryant was supposed to be.

Gee, a Missouri fan with nothing be hope. There's something you don't see every day.

Oh, and by the way -- Brad Smith for Heisman! :)

[SackAttack]

I dunno. Arthur Johnson seemed, at various points during the season, like he was trying to take over and be the leader, but that the other guys on the squad weren't following him.

Dunno if that makes any sense, but that's what I saw.

[MizzouRah]

I don't know that to think anymore. On the one hand, we knew that when we hired a guy who had never been a head coach before that there would be growing pains. Quin has recruited very well, as expected, but he has probably stuggled more with the Xs and Os than anybody expected.

In past off seasons, Quin's name has come up with other jobs. In the past, I hoped that he would stay. This year, if his name comes up for a job, I won't mind if he leaves. However, the only circumstance under which I would want him fired would be if the NCAA investigation comes back with something more damning than we have seen so far and/or there is a postseason ban involved.

I don't think either will happen. All indications point to a slap on the wrist, and the bloom is off Quin's rose enough that I don't think anyone will come a knocking.

This team seemed to find a new way to lose all the time. Some nights it was because they shot too many threes, some nights it was because they played no defense. To a large degree, I think that the team's problem's the last few years, particularly this year, was the lack of a point guard. There is not a point guard on this team.

If this team had been more efficient on offense last night, they would have had KU down by 20 at halftime. This entire season come down to missed opportunities. This team missed more chances to come back, build leads and win ball games, and so much of it stemmed from the fact that on offense, there was no leader and no one dictating the pace of the game.

If Jason Horton can be be a real PG and not a pretend PG (not sure about Spencer Laurie) or a horrible stopgap measure (bye-bye, Randy Pulley), there are pieces in place to make next year's team awesome. Gardner is simply amazing, I still think McKinney has tremendous upside and Kleiza looks to be what Travon Bryant was supposed to be.

Gee, a Missouri fan with nothing be hope. There's something you don't see every day.

Oh, and by the way -- Brad Smith for Heisman! :)

Excellent post! I can't wait for football either. :)

Oh, and I agree on the PG thing, but Conley should have been part of the offense alot sooner. It just seems to me like Quinn tells the team, "Go out there and shoot the ball" - there's no defense whatsoever.


Todd

[kcchief19]

I think Conley can be a great part of the team scoring-wise, but I'm not sure he's a permanent solution at point guard. And after seeing his performance Friday night, I was ready to strangle him and Quin.

He was 2 of 12 from the field including 1 of 6 from three, and those 10 shots he missed he missed by a lot. I was begging Quin to bench him because his shot wasn't there, and the fact that Conley wasn't sharp enough to realize his shot wasn't there and try to setup others worries me. After they cut the lead to 12, KU took control because Conley blew a layup and badly missed an ill-advised three pointer and then route was back on.

That said, unless this Horton kid comes in and sets the world on fire, you're probably looking at a three-guard starting lineup of Conley, Gardner and McKinney plus Kleiza and -- gasp! -- Kevein Young! Hmmm .... maybe one of the freshmen trees will start next year. :)

Also, have you heard the rumors that if the Tigers miss the tournament and go to the NIT, they will request to play on the road? Severely reports in the local media here indicate that Missouri is saying they consider Hearnes closed and don't want to have another game there. Can't say I blame them.

[IMetTrentGreen]

i dunno, they do this every year. who is dissapointed? i wish i had bet someone that missou wouldn't be ranked at the end of the year, i'd be rich

anyway, marshall brown is good. so they have that going for them