OT: Jeopardy! fans

[kcchief19]

Just curious, does anyone know at what point contestants began appearing on the show who had seen James on TV already? Seemed like the contestant who chased him down today was familiar with his strategy and prepared to counter it by getting up in his face. Seems like the only way you could beat James was to be prepared for what was coming and play the same game.

[JPhillips]

Goes to show how impressive the Jennings streak is. James is probably the best to ever play the game, but one off night and it's over, well short of the consecutive match mark.

[Young Drachma]

Just curious, does anyone know at what point contestants began appearing on the show who had seen James on TV already? Seemed like the contestant who chased him down today was familiar with his strategy and prepared to counter it by getting up in his face. Seems like the only way you could beat James was to be prepared for what was coming and play the same game.

Weeks ago. Pretty much after the first week or so, everyone knew.

Former Jeopardy champs were talking about it in some articles during the run.

[QuikSand]

He lost?

Yes. A good player who was also very good with the buzzer (hugely important) basically beat him at his own game. She was a bit behind getting the second DD and pushed all in to take a lead something like 12-9, then later she made a smallish bet when she got the next DD and maintained the edge all night. Only one wrong answer (from anyone) the entire game, and presumably more than one person knew most of the right answers, so it was buzzer skills and brave wagers.

James, interestingly, did exactly the right thing and made a tiny FJ wager despite being just modestly behind. Some nitwits will probably misunderstand the situation... but he was in 2nd place behind a good player, with scores of something like 26-23-11. Betting just a bit (to ensure he stayed ahead of the 3rd place player) was definitely the right play there.

[Butter]

Some nitwits will probably misunderstand the situation... but he was in 2nd place behind a good player, with scores of something like 26-23-11. Betting just a bit (to ensure he stayed ahead of the 3rd place player) was definitely the right play there.

Yeah, I've seen some people badmouthing his wager. The dude was a professional, I think he understands freaking bet sizing better than some douche on twitter.

[albionmoonlight]

Kind of nice that he finished really close to Jennings' money total. Make future debates about who was the "better" player more interesting.

[stevew]

Since this is where the smart people congregate, if anyone is bored, the celeb pricing demands on Cameo.com are a fascinating deep dive in self metered worth

[Kodos]

Kind of nice that he finished really close to Jennings' money total. Make future debates about who was the "better" player more interesting.

Should be fun when we get to see him and Jennings go head-to-head.

[henry296]

Weeks ago. Pretty much after the first week or so, everyone knew.

Former Jeopardy champs were talking about it in some articles during the run.

Just read that last night's episode was taped in March and his run didn't start airing until April, so she was unaware of his strategies.

One thing I found interesting was that he found the daily double on his first pick of the game which limited his upside as he could only wager $1,000. Her getting both of them in Double Jeopardy was a huge key.

[QuikSand]

One thing I found interesting was that he found the daily double on his first pick of the game which limited his upside as he could only wager $1,000. Her getting both of them in Double Jeopardy was a huge key.

All three played a major role in her having a real shot. I'm sure there is or will be a breakdown of that game and whether she was "better," but the game is definitely different even if the only thing you alter is him having 8K instead of 1K after the first DD hit.

[JPhillips]

How do they keep the audience quiet for months?

[QuikSand]

I am, however, fascinated about the rules of non-spoilerism when it comes to this sort of thing. I mean... "everybody" knew this guy was winning every night, and that he would eventually lose. I was watching every night, and all things equal, I would have preferred to be surprised when he lost. However, I'm an online person, and there was no avoiding it yesterday it seems.

So, we at FOFC did the right thing, right? Nobody bumped the thread. Even just posting "hey, there's a spoiler" and hiding the content would have served as the spoiler, so don't do it. I saw multiple articles/tweets basically doing just that. Saying in big bold lettering DON'T CLICK THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT THE BIG JEOPARDY! SPOILER FOR TONIGHT. I mean, nobody can possibly think they are in keeping with society's wishes about spoilers when doing that, right?

So... is this sort of situation just hopeless? (I think yes, it is)

[NobodyHere]

How do they keep the audience quiet for months?

The security is the most impressive thing to me about this run. My understanding is that these things get filmed months ago and yet there wasn't any leakage I heard about until last weekend.

They must have an impressive NDA or something.

[Racer]

Just read that last night's episode was taped in March and his run didn't start airing until April, so she was unaware of his strategies.

One thing I found interesting was that he found the daily double on his first pick of the game which limited his upside as he could only wager $1,000. Her getting both of them in Double Jeopardy was a huge key.

Jeopardy: How James Holzhauer nearly lost to Adam Levin (https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/05/jeopardy-james-holzhauer-adam-levin-strategy)

Perhaps the person who beat Holzhauer had a similar opportunity? The guy who lost by $18 got to see 5 episodes from the audience before facing off with Holzhauer. That's probably enough games to get a feel for his strategy.

[cuervo72]

Just read that last night's episode was taped in March and his run didn't start airing until April, so she was unaware of his strategies.

One thing I found interesting was that he found the daily double on his first pick of the game which limited his upside as he could only wager $1,000. Her getting both of them in Double Jeopardy was a huge key.

Yes -- I read an article about her (WaPo maybe?), and she claimed that when she heard the stats for the reigning champ she was like "no way - you're kidding, right?" She apparently wasn't aware who she was playing and came up with what sounds like a very similar strategy on her own (she wrote her Masters thesis on Jeopardy!).

[JPhillips]

The security is the most impressive thing to me about this run. My understanding is that these things get filmed months ago and yet there wasn't any leakage I heard about until last weekend.

They must have an impressive NDA or something.

With the contestants they hold the winnings until the episode airs and that NDA takes money away if the contestant divulges the results. I'm not sure, though, how they keep the audiences from talking. There are enough of them that it would seem likely that somebody would talk even if they were eventually caught.

[stevew]

I am, however, fascinated about the rules of non-spoilerism when it comes to this sort of thing. I mean... "everybody" knew this guy was winning every night, and that he would eventually lose. I was watching every night, and all things equal, I would have preferred to be surprised when he lost. However, I'm an online person, and there was no avoiding it yesterday it seems.

So, we at FOFC did the right thing, right? Nobody bumped the thread. Even just posting "hey, there's a spoiler" and hiding the content would have served as the spoiler, so don't do it. I saw multiple articles/tweets basically doing just that. Saying in big bold lettering DON'T CLICK THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT THE BIG JEOPARDY! SPOILER FOR TONIGHT. I mean, nobody can possibly think they are in keeping with society's wishes about spoilers when doing that, right?

So... is this sort of situation just hopeless? (I think yes, it is)


Game of Thrones was hopeless. People posting shit like “Arya!!!” Or “OMG DANY!” Is just as bad as spelling out a spoiler understanding any context at all. I guess I bumped it at 9pm last night(well after airing time) and probably shouldn’t have. But I only knew he lost cause of some headline trash.

Is Jeopardy on in the morning in some markets? Or I’m assuming that it gets transmitted in the morning and some tech somewhere fast forwarded it? How exactly does it work? Sent over internet tubes and then downloaded to a station server?

[stevew]

I read Chopped has a 750K NDA penalty. Also if anyone likes random game shows, “Forged in Fire” on history is quite entertaining. Although a show about weapons building really should be called Chopped

[QuikSand]

Game of Thrones was hopeless.

Well... how long would one have had to unplug to stay free of spoilers? (I wasn't a GoT guy so I don't know) But everyone knew when the last episode was coming... so at worst you coudl have unplugged for Sat/Sun and watched Sunday night to get the unspoiled wrap-up. Right?


What I mean by Jeopardy is the timing of the twist itself is the spoiler. So, let's say Emma goes on a crazy run now, gets up to 15 wins, and everyone gets all into it again.

Then, what do I do, if I don't want to be spoiled? Stay off the internet for the next 4 weeks until someone beats her? That's too much work.

And the point is... nobody can talk about the end of the streak without spoiling it. I listened to "The Gist" discuss James's final wager (they approved, despite the nitwit detractors) but opened with a giant "spoiler alert" that clearly served no purpose.... once you hear there's a J! spoiler, it's perfectly clear what it was.

The closest thing I saw was people using some smokescreen tactics on Monday, posting reports that the rumor of James losing might have been from doctored footage or something like that. I guess that's the best we are going to get.

[Vince, Pt. II]

So, we at FOFC did the right thing, right? Nobody bumped the thread. Even just posting "hey, there's a spoiler" and hiding the content would have served as the spoiler, so don't do it.

...

So... is this sort of situation just hopeless? (I think yes, it is)

This crossed my mind when I was "spoiled" in the morning. The first place I came was this thread to see the reaction, and it was crickets. Thought about posting, but realized there was no way to do it without spoiling things.

I agree that it's hopeless due to the tape delay unless you have no online presence.

[larrymcg421]

I read Chopped has a 750K NDA penalty. Also if anyone likes random game shows, “Forged in Fire” on history is quite entertaining. Although a show about weapons building really should be called Chopped

Survivor has a $5 million NDA penalty, but the worst they've ever done is ban someone from the reunion. The returnee seasons are always heavily spoiled.

[QuikSand]

*sigh*

The Final Wager on Twitter: "There's been a lot of Very Serious Discussion that @James_Holzhauer threw his last game, or that his Final Jeopardy! wager was somehow indefensible.

@Jeopardy! All-Stars @austintylerro and @monica_too_ join me to set the record straight.

https://t.co/hpJo4nJ92D" (https://twitter.com/TheFinalWager/status/1136295305002061824)

(not responding to the audio, but to the nitwits who made it necessary, and who won't listen)

[Lathum]

The thought that he threw his last game is ludicrous. He made just over 2 million, after taxes he will walk with probably about 1.4. Life changing? Sure, but he is still a pretty young guy with a young kid. No way he gives up that kind of money on purpose.

[QuikSand]

Trebek back in chemo after bad signs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alex-trebek-cancer-jeopardy-host-undergoing-chemotherapy-again-setback-numbers-sky-high-good-morning-america/

Hang in there, Alex!

[Kodos]

Keep on fighting!

[QuikSand]

SPOILER FOR WEST COASTERS - TUESDAY NIGHT - SORRY

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So, for unreasonably unforgivable sins, fairly high on my list would be "clearly smart people who won't take the short time needed to understand Jeopardy! wagering even after being invited onto the show."

Tonight... awful case.

Champ is clearly the best player, has a solid lead into DJ round. Then Challenger 2 gets the first DJ, and has to make a decision, with scores maybe 15-3-7. He decided to bet most but not quite all his money, maybe 6000 out of 7700? Ok, I'm fine with that I guess. I don't really love the implicit value attached to "having a tiny bit to play on with" but there are occasionally spoiler avenues fora 3rd place player, so fine. He gets it, and is right in the hunt.

Then, fairly soon after, he hits the other DJ. The score is now something like 17-4-12... and he bets...? No, not everything, but just barely enough to take a slight lead, I think it's 7,000 (he could have bet 5K more). He hits it, takes a slight lead, and then down the stretch the superior champ takes control and leads roughly 24-5-20 into FJ.

The lunacy is not over.

Question is tough. They got to challenger 1 with 5400, she's wrong, wagered EVERYTHING ans goes broke. Sigh.

Challenger 2. He is also wrong. He bet ALMOST EVERYTHING and is left with $101. WTF.

Champion is also wrong. He made the proper bet - something like $17K, enough to beat out Challenger 2 if they both got it right. So, he walks away as still the champ, with another $7K or so in winnings.


Challenger 2 is a pretty smart guy, a good J! player, and just refused to give any thought to this particular element of the game, It's shocking how common that is. He made poor, but defensible (if risk-averse) decisions with his DJ wagers, but then got the salvation he needed with a stumper FJ question, and managed to hit for the fuckup cycle with another shit wager that sent him home broke, instead of up $20K as a returning champion. Nitwit in 3rd place put all her eggs into the "the two guys who just crushed me at trivia will both be stumped, but I alone will get this one" basket and she's broke too.

I can't.

[cuervo72]

The J! Archive has instructions for these things. You would think if you were going on the show you might take notes.

[QuikSand]

Guess this forum missed the recent ToC, but anyway...

= = = = =

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/entertainment/jeopardy-greatest-all-time/index.html

So obviously the right move.

[JPhillips]

Watching the GOAT tourny it's really clear that James changed the game forever. Everybody is betting all or almost all on Daily Doubles and, in general, the game is played from the bottom of the board to the top.

And poor Brad isn't doing well on the doubles so far.

[hollmt]

Watching the GOAT tourny it's really clear that James changed the game forever. Everybody is betting all or almost all on Daily Doubles and, in general, the game is played from the bottom of the board to the top.

And poor Brad isn't doing well on the doubles so far.

Watching and enjoying as well. As of now, it is clearly a 2 person game with Ken and James being rather equal on the buzzer and knowledge and recall. And this is where Brad is falling short...he is clearly not fast enough on the buzzer and his recall is falling short. Those DD that he missed were not that difficult and he is over thinking/short on recall, where you can clearly see James running through the files and files of information he has in his head on some questions and pulls out the answer (sometimes on just a good educated guess).

I know the tapings were done in December, but what I am not sure on is how many days. I think it was 3. If that is the case, did they tape a morning 'show' and an evening 'show?' I hope they were not back to back with minimal breaks. The reasoning behind this, is if a contestant is having a bad day (Brad), that can carry over into the next 'show' if it is the same day, where obviously Ken and James can be on point for back to back shows.

As of now, I believe Ken is winning overall coryat, but James isn't too far off. The best thing to happen, happened last night with James winning game 2 and Brad is still only technically 1 game behind.

I do think James is the overall best player though and you can see how it changes Ken's strategy and forcing him to go all in more than he is comfortable with and Brad is really being outclassed so far.

[QuikSand]

I missed night one, saw night two, and have scrupulously avoided spoilers.

I think with three excellent players, unless they deliberately and publicly commit to making the questions themselves harder, they end up really changing the game a lot. If all three contestants will know (and recognize that the others will know) 80-90% of the right answers, then the game is increasingly a matter of:

1) buzzer timing
2) luck of locating the DDs; and
3) aggression/success when you do so

That's a pretty different game than when you have three random contestants... even though there's filtering to make sure you don't have any total dopes there, the combination of nerves and knowledge variations makes the game principally about knowledge/command of the subjects. In this setup, it's less so. (Back to my gripes with the silly Watson game, where clearly the most important determinant was how good did they make the Watson robot at buzzing in?)

I remain very interested. I like the banter and the playfulness, that's a good small addition here. If we come out of this basically discarding Brad Rutter as being in the GOAT conversation (as it looks right now) then that's a shame, in no small part because what they're playing isn't exactly the same thing as Jeopardy! per se, in my view.

[ISiddiqui]

I did find it interesting that Ken has continually said before this tournament that Brad has always beat him (Brad's only loss was to the IBM Watson, IIRC). It just could be that this new version of Jeopardy that James has spearheaded is one that Brad just can't get comfortable in. Because if he was consistently able to beat Ken in prior tournaments but now is getting completely outpaced, then it seems like something is different.

[QuikSand]

Brad and Ken faced off in a three-person, two-night final when they held a special "Quest for Ken" tournament and brought back years worth of top players. Brad was among the two who emerged from the play-in, and Ken was simply placed into the finals.

The only other time they played head to head was in the novelty game against IBM's Watson, which was absurd in many ways. Brad scores higher than Ken, but Watson creamed them both, because of reasons largely unrelated to its AI capabilities. It was interesting, but it wasn't Jeopardy! in any real sense.

So... yes, Brad beat Ken. Once, over two nights. Pretty soundly, but not fifteen times.

[Lathum]

Jessica Smetana on Twitter: "Help… " (https://twitter.com/jessica_smetana/status/1215639218728378369?s=20)

[Butter]

Fun tournament so far. It's a shame that Brad basically hasn't shown up.

[QuikSand]

James has pretty mercilessly trolled Brad on twitter - making me think that Brad has a rally left in him. If he just finished a distant third in every game all the way through, I suspect James wouldn't be socking it to him like he has been now. Not a spoiler, just my hunch... I don't think James is that much of a prick.

[Butter]

When he made fun of Brad for getting the Philadelphia answer, I couldn't tell if it was totally good fun or a little edgy.

[molson]

Bethlehem is not in Palestine apparently. Poor Alex.

[cuervo72]

James has pretty mercilessly trolled Brad on twitter - making me think that Brad has a rally left in him. If he just finished a distant third in every game all the way through, I suspect James wouldn't be socking it to him like he has been now. Not a spoiler, just my hunch... I don't think James is that much of a prick.

I don't think he's a prick either, and I think you may be right about that rally.

(Of course I'd like to see this last a few extra matches, so I selfishly would like to see Brad win a couple.)

[JPhillips]

About that Brad having a rally theory...

[JPhillips]

No, James is just picking on Brad for some reason.

[JPhillips]

X makes a terrible bet.

But Y misses final jeopardy.

Wow.

[CrimsonFox]

HORATIO?!?

Even I knew it wasn't horatio! Such a terrible guess.

I was thinking Edgar or Edmund from King Lear but Iago is damn obv

[Lathum]

No, James is just picking on Brad for some reason.

I just think it is his personality and hopefully Brad and he have that kind of relationship. His line about resetting Brads score was savage

[Jas_lov]

Brad was just awful the whole time. I thought he usually did well vs Ken. That surprised me more than anything. Ken was aggressive and dominated. Hopefully he takes over as host for Alex. I think he bet $0 in the last FJ because he thought James would go all in and couldn't catch him.

[cuervo72]

I think it was the buzzer. It looked like there were numerous times when Brad attempted to ring in but was just a hair too slow compared to the other two. And every time he got a DD, he booted it.

For the final wager, Ken was wagering for James to bet it all, in which case for Ken to win, James had to miss. So, stand pat.

[CrimsonFox]

KEN! KEN! KEN! KEN! KEN! KEN! KEN! KEN! KEN!

[larrymcg421]

X makes a terrible bet.

But Y misses final jeopardy.

Wow.

Not a terrible bet. He only wins if James misses.

[JPhillips]

If he's betting for both to miss, I think zero is the better bet. It's points rather than dollars, so it doesn't really matter, but I didn't like the bet amount if you'll only win if James misses.

[larrymcg421]

If he's betting for both to miss, I think zero is the better bet. It's points rather than dollars, so it doesn't really matter, but I didn't like the bet amount if you'll only win if James misses.


No, I meant he only wins if James misses no matter what he bets. If James bets it all and gets it right, he has $122,181. The most Ken can get is $111,600. There was no reason for Ken to bet.

[QuikSand]

FWIW, James is now playing up the super-humbled routine, and declaring all his japes to have been kayfabe, which I buy.

[QuikSand]

Maybe 39/50 here? Mrs Q thinks she got 42. I spit the bit on two gettable questions, per usual.

[Bisbo]

Maybe 39/50 here? Mrs Q thinks she got 42. I spit the bit on two gettable questions, per usual.

I'm so much better yelling out answers during the show than I am on the damn test.

[QuikSand]

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[Kodos]

Good to see. I was a bit worried when I clicked on the thread.

[albionmoonlight]

A trial run to make sure that it works.

And an opportunity for the transition to be as smooth, seamless, and classy as possible when it happens.

Smart.

[Butter]

What do we think about KJ so far?

[QuikSand]

I feel like Ken is very practiced, and it shows. That's sort of a "don't lose the game" quarterback... he's Alex Smith on two legs. He is absolutely up to the job, and would be perfectly fine, and likely would evolve into the job given the chance. He's fine.

That said, as I have been actively avoiding the contentious side of social media of late, I confess I have mostly missed the recent dustup over his tweeting and associations... Mrs Q says he has all but been shelved as a contender for the long term gig, because of that stuff. If so, and he has truly been Milkshake Duck-ed, I would have been crushed a year ago, but after seeing what it's actually like... maybe a bit less so.

[albionmoonlight]

I admit to thinking that having the guy who gave us Reading Rainbow as kids end up being the guy who gives us Jeopardy into our golden years is pretty cool.

Don't know if LaVar is the best choice. But he is my sentimental choice.

[Jas_lov]

Ken has been good. Anyone will need some time to get acclimated and find their own voice. I hope those tweets don't cost Ken the job if that's what they choose. He's apologized and he's current on another show, The Chase, with Brad and Jamie.

I saw Aaron Rodgers will be a guest host. That should be fun.

[Lathum]

What tweets?

[JPhillips]

I think KJ has the toughest job, coming right after Alex. As QS said, he's very practiced, but he seems nervous and a little too planned at this point. I'm sure he'd grow into the job, though.

[Ksyrup]

I saw Aaron Rodgers will be a guest host. That should be fun.

Given how many commercials Rodgers does, I must be one of the few people who still remembers the Ryan Braun crap and how they lied about that dude who had Braun's sample and essentially ruined the guy's reputation to save Braun. I'm sure Rodgers believed his good buddy and was only partially to blame, but that has always left a sour taste in my mouth for the guy. Perhaps if he hadn't gone all in on destroying the guy I'd feel differently. I think he's great and all, but I root against him whenever I have the chance. I hope he bombs.

[Butter]

What tweets?

Literally the only one I've seen quoted was "nothing sadder than a hot person in a wheelchair".

[Butter]

Given how many commercials Rodgers does, I must be one of the few people who still remembers the Ryan Braun crap and how they lied about that dude who had Braun's sample and essentially ruined the guy's reputation to save Braun. I'm sure Rodgers believed his good buddy and was only partially to blame, but that has always left a sour taste in my mouth for the guy. Perhaps if he hadn't gone all in on destroying the guy I'd feel differently. I think he's great and all, but I root against him whenever I have the chance. I hope he bombs.

Also not a fan.

[Ksyrup]

I can't stand Dr. Oz and got pissed when I realized he was going to host, and I still don't think he is worthy of representing what this show is all about, but I think he's done a really good job hosting from the 2 shows I've seen this week.

[Jas_lov]

I don't like Oz. He's been the worst guest host. Katie Couric was good. Mike Richards ok. Ken still has the job.

[Ksyrup]

Every time I see Mike Richards I just think of him hosting Beauty and the Geek a decade ago.

[QuikSand]

I feel like Richards was almost like he came out of a factory set to "game show host." Vaguely handsome, vaguely pleasant, vaguely likeable. I guess that's fine. He's not awful.

Couric had a stall that bothered me, and felt forced.

Oz has a natural cadence that I like (despite not liking him) but I think he pushes in a little too much "flavor." It's a subtle thing I don't like.

I don't think we have yet seen a permanent new host.

[albionmoonlight]

Is LaVar Burton still in the mix?

[cuervo72]

Richards felt a little too...non-organic to me too. Just not quite right, a little "this is how a game show host is supposed to look and act" for me. Didn't feel natural.

I liked Ken, but I don't think it's his gig long-term.

Couric was too soothing if anything for me. I need there to be a little tension, a little excitement to get my mind going. Katie Couric is anti-tense.

I don't think any of them have quite had the incorrect response...response correct. Not emphatic enough, not enough variety. Don't ask "no??" tell us no.

Haven't gotten to the Oz episodes, but yeah, he's a quack.

[JPhillips]

I thought Richards was just there because of COVID travel restrictions. I didn't think he was actually in the running to be the host.

I ended up really liking Jennings, but I wonder if his past with the show ends up being too much of an obstacle.

[QuikSand]

Richards felt a little too...non-organic to me too. Just not quite right, a little "this is how a game show host is supposed to look and act" for me. Didn't feel natural.

I liked Ken, but I don't think it's his gig long-term.

Couric was too soothing if anything for me. I need there to be a little tension, a little excitement to get my mind going. Katie Couric is anti-tense.

I don't think any of them have quite had the incorrect response...response correct. Not emphatic enough, not enough variety. Don't ask "no??" tell us no.

Haven't gotten to the Oz episodes, but yeah, he's a quack.

agreed with all this, especially the correct way to handle a wrong answer... it's weird, but that is the triple axle of the program (or whatever is the correct analogy)... reading the questions you can practice, but saying "nope" or "lol nah" or whatever is where you earn your money, oddly enough.

[Butter]

Richards isn't in the running, Couric doesn't want to long-term host the show, no way they choose Oz, so unless it's Ken we definitely haven't seen the perma-host yet.

[cuervo72]

Oz has a natural cadence that I like (despite not liking him) but I think he pushes in a little too much "flavor." It's a subtle thing I don't like.

Mostly agree with this, though he seems (at least having watched the first week) to sometimes go along fine and then all of a sudden randomly RAMP THE INTENSITY UP TO 14 and then go right back down. I liked that there was more of an edge than Couric, but sometimes went a bit too far.

I don't think he has had a good rapport with the contestants during the interviews.

[QuikSand]

Aaron Rodgers&#x27; Jeopardy guest-host debut: promising! (https://slate.com/culture/2021/04/aaron-rodgers-promising-debut-as-jeopardy-guest-host.html?via=rss_socialflow_twitter)

I'm not buying this myself... I felt if graded on a "non professional entertainer" scale he did very, very well... but in open competition he was a bit stiff and vanilla. Not an embarrassment by any stretch, just not any sort of standout. I'm glad he's not awful, but it's still just a novelty thing. Good for him.

[Kodos]

Turns out it is hard to replace a legend.

[QuikSand]

In J! circles, this is "shots fired" time... lol i love this schtick

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A 30+-game winning streak and then a shocking loss? You should LOVE these guys!</p>&mdash; Ken Jennings (@KenJennings) <a href="https://twitter.com/KenJennings/status/1379255242080931841?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jas_lov]

Rodgers was good but his voice is too monotone. Maybe he'll loosen up in later episodes. The FJ response about the field goal was funny.

[cuervo72]

Hey, if Rolf Benirschke can be a successful host...

(Wait, what's that? Oh. Never mind.)

[Ksyrup]

Rodgers was good but his voice is too monotone. Maybe he'll loosen up in later episodes. The FJ response about the field goal was funny.

Agreed on the monotone. He had a Shaq vibe to his voice (without the mumbling). Although I'd rather listen to him like that then like Joe Namath's Medicaid shtick.

Also, I don't like the guy to begin with, but I think a necessary ingredient to a good Jeopardy host is that they are (or at least seem to be, by reputation) smart enough people that you believe they know the answers. It's essential to when they give a "no that's wrong" answer. SNL famously made fun of Trebek's sometimes condescending responses. With Rodgers, I don't believe he knows 10% of the answers and in fact, on one of the responses he actually admitted he'd never heard of whatever it was. That's the wrong way to build rapport with the contestants. He's not one of them.

[JPhillips]

But it would be perfect if Rodgers left the NFL to be the Jeopardy host.

What is, that's what you deserve for drafting a QB instead of someone that actually played.

[Ksyrup]

That loses a lot of its sting considering Rodgers' draft history.

[cuervo72]

Is it me, or has the writing been uneven lately? I feel like there have been more questions that are either inadequately pinned, poorly worded, or just fell flat this season.

[Kodos]

Rodgers would be better if he wasn't constantly trying to get players to ring in too early with his cadence.

[QuikSand]

Handled perfectly, imo

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[Butter]

Rodgers looks like a kid showed up to school photo day, I can't get over his "cleaned up" look vs his "I just played a football game" look

[albionmoonlight]

I don't know if the Jeopardy host thing will work for Rodgers. But he's shown enough that I think that he can have a post-NFL media career that goes beyond pre-game show host.

I could easily see him improving with some more TV reps and ending up with a Michael Strahan type thing where he becomes a fixture on one of the big morning/daytime TV shows.

[Kodos]

I wonder if Peyton Manning would be a good host. He’s got a good sense of humor that might play well.

[Ksyrup]

To me, Manning has a far better personality and delivery than Rodgers to work solo. Rodgers seems too monotone, and he's got a "straight guy" (as in a 2-man comedy schtick meaning) personality that would work far better in tandem with a more outgoing co-host. He comes off more like a Bud Abbott-type.

[cuervo72]

You know who might be a good host? Joe Buck.

/ducks

[cuervo72]

Oh hey

Joe Buck to guest host 'Jeopardy' (https://sports.yahoo.com/joe-buck-will-guest-host-jeopardy-put-himself-in-the-running-for-permanent-job-142206896.html)

[GrantDawg]

Anderson Cooper has the next two weeks. I have a feeling it is his job if he wants it.

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[Thomkal]

Anderson Cooper has the next two weeks. I have a feeling it is his job if he wants it.

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I can't believe he'd leave CNN for it, but I always did like him as the host of The Mole.

[GrantDawg]

I can't believe he'd leave CNN for it, but I always did like him as the host of The Mole.
I loved The Mole. I wish it had taken off. I was wondering the same thing about CNN, but would he have to leave? They can tape many Jeopardy episodes in one day. Considering guys like Michael Strahan and Ryan Seacrest can have 10 different jobs goingn at the same time, I wonder if Anderson couldn't do both?

[JPhillips]

The bigger problem would be the unpredictability of the news. There are times when his CNN job requires him to pack up and go on location for days. That seems incompatible with being Jeopardy host.

[cuervo72]

Cooper has 60 Minutes, too.

[GrantDawg]

Jeopardy films two days a week, five episodes a day. Anderson takes two weeks off (or more, like a month during the summer) all the time. Time would not be a factor for Anderson to do both.

[JPhillips]

Unless there's a national news story during those two weeks. It's just too unpredictable to do both.

[GrantDawg]

When he is on vacation now, he doesn't always come back.

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[GrantDawg]

On the end, if they want him, and he wants the job, CNN, Jeopardy and Anderson would work it out. It is totally doable and not a deal breaker at all.

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[rjolley]

I can't believe he'd leave CNN for it, but I always did like him as the host of The Mole.

Just wanted to agree about The Mole...back when scripted reality tv wasn't so drama-filled.

[QuikSand]

Cooper seems like a very good and natural host. Not sure he's my choice, but unless you're affected by other things, he seems really good at it, unsurprisingly.

[Jas_lov]

Anderson is good, not great. I don't think he'll be host but I'd be happy with any of them except Oz.

And was the Final Jeopardy bet by 2nd place on Friday the worst of all time? 2nd place had $10,600 and 1st place had $21,200 so 2nd place's only chance is to bet it all but he bets $3,100 and gets FJ correct. 1st place bets $1 and gets FJ wrong so it cost 2nd place the win. It amazes me people get to the show and don't know how to bet or even try to win.

[cuervo72]

I'm about up to the end of Rogers' stint. I think he's been pretty good this second week - varied responses for affirmative answers, gives a little flavor here and there. I don't know that he's the best choice for full-time host (nor do I know that he wants to be), but were he, I could live with it. Definitely has a future in TV if he wants it.

[QuikSand]

And was the Final Jeopardy bet by 2nd place on Friday the worst of all time? 2nd place had $10,600 and 1st place had $21,200 so 2nd place's only chance is to bet it all but he bets $3,100 and gets FJ correct. 1st place bets $1 and gets FJ wrong so it cost 2nd place the win. It amazes me people get to the show and don't know how to bet or even try to win.

My family knows I flip out about this stuff, and that was one of the worst ever. I mean, there is only one defensible bet there, unless you are REALLY focused on the $2,000 / $1,000 differential. Holy cow, I am shocked at how lost so many smart people who know they are going to be on Jeopardy! are about playing Jeopardy!

[JPhillips]

I also get annoyed when people bet when they should stand, and that happens all the time.

[Lathum]

My family knows I flip out about this stuff, and that was one of the worst ever. I mean, there is only one defensible bet there, unless you are REALLY focused on the $2,000 / $1,000 differential. Holy cow, I am shocked at how lost so many smart people who know they are going to be on Jeopardy! are about playing Jeopardy!

The ones that annoy me are on the Price is Right, granted they are likely less intelligent than those on Jeopardy, but still make some staggering mistakes.

For example, they are bidding on a shiny new air fryer.

Player 1 bids $350
Player 2 bids $500
Player 3 bids $550
Player 4 bids $450 when they should bid $351 if they think $450 is close to correct.

It literally happens multiple times a show and I die a little inside every time.

[JPhillips]

Bill Whitaker is, so far, the most Trebek-like of the guest hosts.

[QuikSand]

Perhaps, but Whitaker lacks enough emotion, I think. He's staid to a fault. Not a real contender, I reckon.

[QuikSand]

So, at the tiny intersection of J! and stupid politics lies this story:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three-time Jeopardy winner Kelly Donohue is now having to apologize after holding up three fingers to signify how many times he had won. This is ridiculous.<a href="https://t.co/WvTxV8rnvm">https://t.co/WvTxV8rnvm</a></p>&mdash; OutKick (@Outkick) <a href="https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1389546103805259777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/04/29/metro/jeopardy-contestant-facing-criticism-allegedly-using-white-power-symbol/

Sign me up for this p.o.v. by the way:

Kelly Donohue Was Falsely Accused | National Review (https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/when-courage-dies-hysteria-rules/)

more context here: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/media/jeopardy-hand-gesture-maga-conspiracy.html?smid=tw-share

[Ksyrup]

That's not even the sign, as far as I've seen. What about all the dudes who throw up the 3-goggles after making a 3-pointer?

I'm glad all of this came after my high school days where we would play the game of making the circle on some body part to get someone else to look, and if they did, you punched the crap out of their arm or leg. Getting off a stealth punch and also taking the punch without making noise became the games within the game. Good times.

[QuikSand]

Back on topic... J! now has a site where you can fill out a bracket on who will win the Tournament of Champions. Fun idea. Too obscure, but could develop into something one day with a prize, maybe.

Perfect Essentials for Your 2021 Tournament of Champions Watch Party | J!Buzz | Jeopardy.com (https://www.jeopardy.com/jbuzz/tournament-champions/perfect-essentials-your-2021-tournament-champions-watch-party)

[Jas_lov]

Buzzy Cohen might be my favorite host so far. He brings an energy to it the others didn't.

[cuervo72]

Random fun fact: I put together the LL flag for the guy who is (apparently) getting flak for his antics in the ToC. (Not up to the ep yet. Also, he is quite skewed category-wise at LL. Very weak in the culture categories relative to his strengths, as he has lamented.)

[QuikSand]

Buzzy is going to host his way into the conversation, I think. He's very fast (and I wouldn't have thought of that as a thing I wanted, until some of the guest hosts have been maybe 0.3s too slow for my tastes, and now it's on my list of "things") arising I think from his high-level familiarity with the material. He's also pretty natural in conversation, and I wold expect that to improve over time.

Didn't see it coming, I thought he was more of a novelty act. He's strong.

[QuikSand]

Brutal night for those of us who oddly care about "good wagering decisions" on J!

Jason Z, a strong contender to win it all IMO, holds a modest lead, with only about 6-8 low-dollar clues left, and gets the final DJ question. The score is something along these lines: JZ 12800, Left 11500, Right 3000

Here's one of those "you have to game theory this out" situations, that I acknowledge is really hard to do on television, under pressure, and with only 5 seconds to decide. But my main takeaway is you KNEW you were heading to the Tournament of Champions, you KNEW this situation could come up, didn't you? Couldn't you just add these scenarios on to the study time for great rivers or constitutional amendments or whatnot?

Anyway... Jason inexplicably bets $5,000. Presumably the goal was to assure his lead going into FJ. He missed it, lost the $5k, and finished in a fairly close 2nd to the player on the left.

IMO, the correct bet there is enough to "mainly cinch the lead" without jeopardizing your actual modest lead. If my numbers were perfect above, I'd want him to bet something like $800 or $1,000... get it right and you're really hard to catch with only a few 400s and 800s left, but get it wrong and you still have a legit shot to finish on top and have the FJ advantage that comes with it.

Awful to see. Turns out he DID finish strong anyway, so he definitely would have won even if he had wagered the entire amount of his lead at the time.

Tough way to go out, pal.

They both got the FJ answer correct, so she wins and advances.

[cuervo72]

Yeah, there's no middle ground there. You either play it safe to keep a slim lead, or you go huge to try to make it a runaway. $5000 gets you nothing in that instance.

[QuikSand]

It's an indefensible bet, plain and simple. I mean, I disagree with the logic of "I'm hot, or this is my category, so let's push it all in now and put it all away" but at least there's an endgame to that. The 5K bet is just isn't befitting a J! champion.

[albionmoonlight]

LeVar Burton on Hosting Jeopardy! As a Guest Host, and the Prospect of Filling Alex Trebek's Shoes (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a37103004/levar-burton-jeopardy-host-interview-2021/)

[albionmoonlight]

'Jeopardy' Host Expected to Be Mike Richards - Variety (https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-1235034673/)

[NobodyHere]

'Jeopardy' Host Expected to Be Mike Richards - Variety (https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/mike-richards-jeopardy-host-alex-trebek-1235034673/)

Reading this headline had me thinking they meant Michael Richards, which would've been fantastic.

[albionmoonlight]

The social media backlash is both predictable and in full force. People are . . . not a fan of Mr. Richards as a potential host.

I don't think that the Jeopardy people are playing 4D chess here. But let's say that they have decided on one of the non-Burton choices (Jennings, Rodgers, etc.). But they know that when they announce it, they will get a ton of "We wanted LeVar!" pushback.

So you leak that it is very likely to be Mike Richards. People lose their shit. Then, next week, when it is announced as, say, Robin Roberts, people are more like "thank God it isn't Mike Richards" than "Hey, we wanted LeVar."

FWIW, I think that Burton came off as a bit stiff. I love the person. And I think that he'd settle into the role. And he might still be the best guy for the job in a whole resume sort of way. But if you are just looking at the shows he did, I don't think he stood out in a good way.

[QuikSand]

Agreed on all of that, alb. We were cheering for Burton, his week did not make the case for him, he'd have to rely on the whole-resume argument, well put.

Richards... bland but probably fine. I don't hate it, but it is about as uninspiring a choice as possible after this whole process.

[Ksyrup]

From Beauty and the Geek to Jeopardy host. Remarkable if it happens.

[Kodos]

Yeah. Richards was fine, but not anything special. I haven't seen the Burton episodes yet (we tend to run behind and watch in bunches), but he seems like he'd be good at it.

[korme]

I am only following along at a distance here. Isn't Richards the EP? Isn't this fishy as hell?

[Ksyrup]

He is but he does have hosting experience. But yeah, if I were to view this through a skeptical lense, Richards was always the guy and they bought time to work him in rather than do a quick replacement, all the while staying relevant and in the news with the constant parade of guest hosts. It's even fishier when you consider that his stint as guest host was supposedly as an emergency fill-in due to Covid restrictions for whomever was supposed to guest host that week.

[QuikSand]

he finna get cancelled tho

[QuikSand]

Meanwhile Matt Amodio is up to 4th on the regular season earnings list, with I think 14 wins after tonight.

He’s very good, very boring, and his quirk is eschewing proper questions and just saying “what is…” even when it’s a person or place. He has far fewer fans than Ken or James at this point.

[albionmoonlight]

Meanwhile Matt Amodio is up to 4th on the regular season earnings list, with I think 14 wins after tonight.

He’s very good, very boring, and his quirk is eschewing proper questions and just saying “what is…” even when it’s a person or place. He has far fewer fans than Ken or James at this point.

My wife--not a frequent watcher--tuned in for the Burton episodes. And she has a visceral dislike for Amodio. She admitted that it was a total gut thing and that he was probably a perfectly nice guy. But he falls squarely into the "stupid punchable face" category for her.

[QuikSand]

he falls squarely into the "stupid punchable face" category

I could see that



Related aside... I genuinely don't know what I would do if I were, someday, cast into that role of returning champion and on camera for what I'm sure is an agonizingly long 9 seconds while Johnny reads off how much money I have already won... I can't imagine any gesture or emotion that has no downside there as being too goofy, smug, annoying, disrespectful, or whatever... or even racist, I guess we've learned.

[Joe]

Looks like we’ll have 2 hosts.

Jeopardy’ Set to Announce Mike Richards and Mayim Bialik Splitting Host Duties (https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeopardy-set-to-announce-mayim-bialik-and-mike-richards-splitting-host-duties)

[RainMaker]

I haven't heard Bialik yet but didn't think Richards was anything special. I was rooting for Burton, but I didn't find him to be all that good.

Judging off a 2-week window is going to be tough because I imagine each host over time will find what works best. If you listen to the earliest Jeopardy episodes, Trebeck was not what he ended up being. So in terms of hiring, I think they should hire the host with the most potential and let them grow into the spot.

The only host I really didn't want is Jennings who speaks way too fast and sounds like he is trying way too hard to be a generic game show host. Weirdly I liked Aaron Rodgers the best but haven't seen them all.

[Joe]

My favorite was Buzzy and hoped he’d get the gig

[JPhillips]

I haven't heard Bialik yet but didn't think Richards was anything special. I was rooting for Burton, but I didn't find him to be all that good.

Judging off a 2-week window is going to be tough because I imagine each host over time will find what works best. If you listen to the earliest Jeopardy episodes, Trebeck was not what he ended up being. So in terms of hiring, I think they should hire the host with the most potential and let them grow into the spot.

The only host I really didn't want is Jennings who speaks way too fast and sounds like he is trying way too hard to be a generic game show host. Weirdly I liked Aaron Rodgers the best but haven't seen them all.

The filming schedule means a guest host is there for two days, right? That's really hard to find your niche in such a short amount of time and reflecton.

[JPhillips]

dola

lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also new for next season: contestants can submit two Final Jeopardy responses in case the first one causes public backlash <a href="https://t.co/97k5INXKR6">https://t.co/97k5INXKR6</a></p>&mdash; James Holzhauer (@James_Holzhauer) <a href="https://twitter.com/James_Holzhauer/status/1425515618720047109?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[cuervo72]

Hey guys, did you know Bialik is a neuroscientist? Or Jewish? (Don't worry, she'll remind you five nights a week.)

[Butter]

No she won't because she's only gonna be hosting like 30 eps a year

[GrantDawg]

I like Mayim Bailik. Good for her! She should have just gotten the gig full time.

[cuervo72]

No she won't because she's only gonna be hosting like 30 eps a year

Ok, she won't. But I still do wish she'd stop with the neuroscientist thing. We know.

As a host, I actually think she did quite a good job. I've just had a (probably irrational) dislike of her since her Blossom days.

Richards just has a bit of that "I'm acting like I'm a gameshow host" feel, to me. Like, I'm trying my best to make it seem like this comes naturally. I dunno, it's hard to explain.

*shrug* Either way I'll keep watching.

[Glengoyne]

dola

lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also new for next season: contestants can submit two Final Jeopardy responses in case the first one causes public backlash <a href="https://t.co/97k5INXKR6">https://t.co/97k5INXKR6</a></p>&mdash; James Holzhauer (@James_Holzhauer) <a href="https://twitter.com/James_Holzhauer/status/1425515618720047109?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nice!

[bhlloy]

I once saw Mayim Bialik get into a pretty severe car accident on Hollywood Blvd. True story.

[Lathum]

What amazes me is Holzhauer showed us all the blueprint, now obviously the hard part is being talented enough to pull it off. This guy certainly is, yet his opponents are playing so conservatively.

Its like a coach using the 3 yards and a cloud of dust against the Chiefs. They have lost before the game has started

[GrantDawg]

What I saw says that the boring dude is going to be the daily host, and Mayim is going to host prime time shows and a "spin-off".

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[RainMaker]

I'm still perplexed that they had a big talent search and chose the boring guy no one has ever heard of. Like maybe he'll be good but just seems odd for such a high profile show.

[Ksyrup]

He is EP and led the search. I think this was always the end game. They got a year of space to work in the new host and not have to immediately replace Trebek, plus be constantly in the news as new guest hosts took over every couple of weeks under the guise of "tryouts." The one thing Richards has going for him, unlike most of the guests, is that he is a game show host. Just like Trebek.

[Pyser]

Richards out before he started. Hard to imagine messing up a host search this much.

[Lathum]

Just give the gig to Ken Jennings. Are there really that many people who wouldn't want to see him?

[Ksyrup]

It looked like he had survived the first round of digging up old comments, but the stuff from that podcast was too much. If only he had run for president instead...

[albionmoonlight]

Earlier in the thread, I said that announcing Richards and then backtracking could be 4D chess to make the final choice seem more appealing.

I don't think that this was 4D chess. I think that this was Jeopardy just messing it up by letting Mike Richards name himself with no one external vetting him, etc.

Whoever is making the decision now, it feels like Burton or Jennings would be the choice to get the most people to say "Fine. That's pretty much who we all thought it would be. Let's just get the Mike Richards stuff behind us."

[albionmoonlight]

dola

I know some books had a market on this. I wonder how that worked.

Mike Richards got named as host. But he never hosted a game. I guess read the fine print.

[sterlingice]

It looked like he had survived the first round of digging up old comments, but the stuff from that podcast was too much. If only he had run for president instead...

There's a Dick Cheney joke here somewhere, too

SI

[Joe]

So you’re saying Buzzy has another shot…

[sterlingice]

Where does this leave Mayim Bialik?

SI

[Joe]

Where does this leave Mayim Bialik?

SI

Same spot, unless she’s found a way with her schedule to be the full time host. That was the reason for the split duties.

[JPhillips]

Same spot, unless she’s found a way with her schedule to be the full time host. That was the reason for the split duties.

That may be what they said, but I think Richards was the choice before anyone started guesting. Bialik was a way to make it look like there was a real search.

[NobodyHere]

Packers QB Aaron Rodgers &#x27;definitely would&#x27;ve&#x27; taken the &#x27;Jeopardy!&#x27; job if offered (https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-aaron-rodgers-definitely-wouldve-taken-jeopardy-job-if-offered)

I'm up for this.

[Butter]

Richards was the most "host-y" host, and I agree with what I read that said there was no real search and he was just biding time until he could give himself the job.

Cohen was probably my next favorite host, then the familiarity of Jennings would definitely be something I can get behind. Rodgers seems like he could grow into the job though and might be the closest to a high ceiling / high floor type.

[JPhillips]

Packers QB Aaron Rodgers &#x27;definitely would&#x27;ve&#x27; taken the &#x27;Jeopardy!&#x27; job if offered (https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-aaron-rodgers-definitely-wouldve-taken-jeopardy-job-if-offered)

I'm up for this.

But here's the problem:

"I mean, if they would have figured out a way to make it work with my schedule, yeah, for sure."

[RainMaker]

I couldn't stand Jennings. Just talked way too fast.

[Joe]

It’s a shame that EP Richards didn’t do a better job vetting host Richards. Hopefully he’ll do a better job next time around.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I don’t really watch Jeopardy! at all, but I’ve found this whole saga fascinating.

So, this mediocre (really by his own admission) white guy manages to work himself up into a position - very likely through some sort of initial connection or contacts - where he is able to choose himself to be the next host of Jeopardy! He actually succeeds in doing this, gaming/rigging the game to give himself one of his dream jobs. All he had to do is not step on his tiny dick in the process and he couldn't even manage to get over that incredibly low bar. This is exactly what entitlement and privilege look like. He thought he could say whatever he wanted about whomever he wanted without facing any consequences, because he pretty much always could and did because of who he is.

The bill's come do, Mike.

[Comey]

Sony hasn't exactly displayed glasnost in this process. We don't know what they can do if they really want someone. They can throw a lot of money into this.

I thought Bialik did well. Burton... not so much. I wanted him to succeed, being a big TNG fan. It was bad enough that I don't think he could keep the audience. I thought he and Dr. Oz were the ones who struggled so much with the clues and pacing that it just wouldn't work.

They say they'll have another round of guest hosts, which just adds to the mess. I hope they rethink that and use Ken Jennings until Bialik is available - maybe cancel that silly Team College Prime Time thing they proposed so that they can maximize what she can do until Call Me Kat fades into the shadows of sitcom lore.

Sony hasn't been honest about this, so the claim that they wanted Bialik in the first place, but scheduling got in the way, is probably untrue.

David Faber was surprisingly good, if not great, in his week. He said he would accept the full-time gig. Maybe that's a possibility. I wouldn't mind simply giving it to Jennings. His voice isn't great, but everything else is good and he has that long-term connection to hard-core Jeopardy fans - I could get used to the voice.

In LeVar Burton's defense, he was really given the short end of the stick. It appears that Richards went out of his way to sabotage him, based on various reports about how Burton was coached, the timing of his hosting, and other factors.

He definitely got off to a slow start, but had picked it up towards the end. IIRC, he also only got half of the shows as everyone else, and did all of his tapings in one day (which I know happens, but given all the other factors...Burton deserves much more of a shot).

[albionmoonlight]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Jeopardy! host Mayim Bialik has some interesting views on C-sections <a href="https://t.co/Gsrqy216S1">pic.twitter.com/Gsrqy216S1</a></p>&mdash; Eoin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_) <a href="https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1430204562284191755?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Picking a new Jeopardy host(s) should not be as hard as they are making it.

[QuikSand]

I'm trying to conjure up the right wording for an analogy...

Robert Bork : SCOTUS :: Mike Richards : Jeopardy!

...I think there's something there. "Richards'ed" is hard to verbify though.

[QuikSand]

frex, Ken Jennings has been a public figure with a lot of things said into the twittersphere to render him unable to survive the murderous scrutiny that this process now apparently demands. He has said things that will prove ableist, sexist, and offensive in other ways. He's cooked.

You need a candidate who literally just walked out of a cave. Some sort of recently unfrozen caveman classics scholar with an uncannily high Q rating.

[thesloppy]

I think Tom Hanks or Obama are the only acceptable choices at this point.

[sterlingice]

I think we might be making this too complicated. They clearly messed this up with Richards. Like if he was popular, they just stand behind him, ignore the old Tweets, and it goes away in a couple of months unless he's really bad at the job or does something new. Sure, Jennings has had some stuff come up but it's also been litigated before in the court of public opinion already. If you, say, go with him (or whoever) and then roll with it - this sort of stuff evaporates in a couple of months unless it's really egregious. The only reason the Richards stuff stuck to him is because everyone hated the pick to begin with.

SI

[JPhillips]

I don't care one way or the other about Bialik as a host, but thinking all the 1.2 mil c-section babies each year and their mothers should be allowed to die is crazypants.

[GrantDawg]

Am I reading that wrong? Doesn't she literally say "I don't subscribe to this"? She is literally saying some believe but she does not. What the heck is the problem?

[Kodos]

Yeah, I was confused by that too. She wasn't saying it, she was saying she knows others who feel that way.

[GrantDawg]

According to what I have read about this online, if you ever quote someone else's beliefs then you believe it too.
I guess me quoting that means I believe it as well. I don't, but the internet knows better.

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[JPhillips]

How does this all play out if Richards is staying on as Executive Producer? Will they try to go back to him after another round of guest hosts?

[QuikSand]

How does this all play out if Richards is staying on as Executive Producer? Will they try to go back to him after another round of guest hosts?

no

[Ksyrup]

Richards fired as EP of Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune.

[albionmoonlight]

Talk about a failed power play.

[cuervo72]

*snort*

Oh, finally made it to the Faber episodes (or second, anyway -- DVR missetting zapped his first and the last Burton ep). Yeah, he was pretty damned good. I'd have no qualms about giving him the job.

[GrantDawg]

Richard's gives a new meaning to the song "I Lost On Jeopardy."

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[Jughead Spock]

Huge, long-time Jeopardy! fan, and literally could not care less who hosts. Have IBM's Watson do it. Who watches for the host? Alex was great, but mostly because he was competent and familiar. It's not about the host, never was.

Granted, I'm not unhappy to see entitled, untalented white-guy #7,800,303,401 fail.

[sterlingice]

Looks like Bialik and Jennings will split duties for the rest of the year:

Jeopardy: Mayim Bialik, Ken Jennings to Host After Mike Richards Exit - Variety (https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/jeopardy-mayim-bialik-ken-jennings-host-mike-richards-1235066317/)

SI

[QuikSand]

Well, in the onstage drama, multi-champ Matt Amodio could have lost last night. Score going into FJ was around 33-17-2… he missed it, and a rival knew it… but it was the wrong rival. So he lucked out a bit.

[QuikSand]

Amazing most of all that the internet didn't spoil this in advance...

Matt Amodio lost tonight after a great run for 38 episodes. Sorry for those of you who who are on a three week delay or whatnot.

Good well-fought game where he finished in a legit third place, not a fluky Fj or something like that. He was a very solid but humble champ.

[QuikSand]

Record-breaking contestant Matt Amodio ends “Jeopardy!� win streak with over $1.5M (https://twitter.com/i/events/1447711684978692103)

[cuervo72]

Two weeks, but I'd already heard the spoiler (WaPo). Not that it matters much.

(might have been CNN; either way I saw the blurb)

[korme]

So, how does this work? I've admittedly followed Amodio's run more closely than previous lengthy champions. Does the winner that unseated the champion now typically go on a long run or is it more to it than that? What made this guy so special to take Amodio down?

[QuikSand]

I don't think the guy who beat him was a monster player, but let's say he's just a better than average J! contestant. Pretty good players who return (anytime) have a built-in edge of lessened nerves and more comfort with the timing of the signal and the general setup.

So, in the way that any returning champ is probably a favorite over two random new contestants, this guy has a solid shot to win a few games, sure. But there's nothing super special about him, I don't reckon.

[cuervo72]

IIRC, the woman who dethroned Ken lost the next game.

[JPhillips]

It's amazing how many people are convinced that he lost on purpose because he was tired of playing.

[cuervo72]

There were a couple of games earlier on when he very well could have lost -- he missed FJ but so did his opponents. Or at least so did the opponent in position to beat him.

[JPhillips]

Here's an interesting story on the season of streaks and how the game has changed this year.

What’s Behind All the Winning Streaks on ‘Jeopardy!’ This Season? (https://www.theringer.com/tv/2022/1/6/22869689/jeopardy-season-streaks-amy-schneider-matt-amodio)

[QuikSand]

The current champion, Amy Schneider @Jeopardamy, is gathering a following as she gets past the $1m mark. She is an excellent player. Some are taking note in bizarre ways because she is a trans woman. I'm hopeful that for many people, "getting to know" her over a long stint as champion will prove to be an ease into a life being with and around those who are noticeably transgendered.

[QuikSand]

And last night there was a TERRIBLE wager in FJ. It's another familiar runaway for Amy, where she's up something like 36K 1K 4K. The guy in second place, who obviously has no shot to win for the night, bet it all on FJ and missed, and fell to third place rather than second. I know next to a million bucks a thousand bucks doesn't feel like a ton, but he literally threw a thousand dollars down the toilet by being either innumerate or nervous.

The number of book smart people who have time to prepare for being on this show that they active sought out to be on and presumably watch and know well, who nonetheless don't get the basic math at the end is easily an order of magnitude above what I'd find reasonable. Yikes.

[cuervo72]

One thing that I think Ken mentioned at some point is that Amy seems to be very good at the word puzzle categories. It's funny, because I feel like I have been "full-time training" as the Ringer article calls it, but I still don't think I'd be able to beat Amy (despite having good comparative results in LL recently). I have been absolutely flummoxed by some of those trick categories lately. Now, I'm sure watching at the end of a day where I've both worked AND gone through scores of trivia questions doesn't help (brain a little run down come 8PM or so), but those have been killing me.

[CarterNMA]

That guy with the annoying effing glasses? He's my neighbor.


Down goes Frazier! Just after passing Amodio. Did not see that coming...

He's not really my neighbor, just wanted to have double protection for spoiler the results today.

[Ksyrup]

You could tell she didn't know it during the time and then right after. All she was hoping is no one got it.

[Ksyrup]

Oh, and I hope that guy goes down in the next game. I don't like his vibe at all.

[Solecismic]

Oh, and I hope that guy goes down in the next game. I don't like his vibe at all.

It's refreshing just to see someone who knows he has to bet it all when hitting a DD against someone that good.

[cuervo72]

James has great troll game:

What a run by @Jeopardamy!

- 40 games won (35 more than @bradrutter)
- Fifth-ever Jeopardy millionaire
- Made @KenJennings watchable

[QuikSand]

It's refreshing just to see someone who knows he has to bet it all when hitting a DD against someone that good.

yes 100X this ... i am astounded how many people who are smart enough to get onto the show and smart enough to be in contention then make inexplicably bad wagering decisions that reveal that they never bothered to think through how the game works

that guy absolutely HAD to push nearly all his money in on the last DD, correctly did so, and then had a chance to benefit the way he did (he got FJ, Amy missed it) ... but it seems like an unreasonable share of people facing that situation click on their risk-averse glasses too comfortably

[cuervo72]

From what I've seen, his glasses are anything but risk-averse.

[JPhillips]

It worked out and it wouldn't have made a big difference, but I don't understand the final bet of the winner. Any was going to bet enough to win if he doubled, but not much more. I understand betting just enough to beat Amy if she misses and I understand betting as much as you can but still guarantee 2nd if you lose. I even understand betting it all on a YOLO. I don't understand betting 12K.

[QuikSand]

It worked out and it wouldn't have made a big difference, but I don't understand the final bet of the winner. Any was going to bet enough to win if he doubled, but not much more. I understand betting just enough to beat Amy if she misses and I understand betting as much as you can but still guarantee 2nd if you lose. I even understand betting it all on a YOLO. I don't understand betting 12K.

Ok, I like noodling this stuff.

Scores leading into FJ were:

27,600 Amy
3,200 middle
17,600 Rhone

Amy's most likely bet is just enough to win, something over 7,600 but certainly not enough to put the middle person into play, and presumably not enough to give Rhone the win without him getting the answer right on her miss. So, 7,601 up to 9,999 seems like her very reliable range. (She actually bet 8,000)

So, Rhone has to get it right to win from an Amy miss, or hope Amy makes an uncharacteristic wager blunder. Rule out the latter here. If she misses she ends up with 17,601 up to 19,999. He has to beat that score, but he likely doesn't want to risk the $1,000 differential in the (much more likely than taking 1st) 2nd/3rd prizes.

So, Rhone's perfect bet here feels like 11,199... assuming that he is weighing the $1,000 cash differential for 2nd/3rd as material, because (once again) he's only in play for the top slot in an unusual setup (i.e. Amy misses, he hits, that probably won't happen more than 5 in 100 times here).

The 12,000 takes an unnecessary risk, for modest benefit... and if he was indeed willing to risk falling to 3rd in that specific situation (Amy misses, he misses, middle hits) then he should have maxed out the wager in that domain to 14,599. Upside if he yahtzees it, no downside if it goes the worst way.

All-in is probably too much risk, weighing the likelihood of the various outcomes... a 3-way FJ stumper has to be a lot more likely than that last situation (Amy misses, he misses, middle hits) so that feels like an unnecessary risk to take to fall to third and lose out on an actual $1,000.

I like 14,599 and 11,199 as final wagers better than the 12,000.

[Solecismic]

It worked out and it wouldn't have made a big difference, but I don't understand the final bet of the winner. Any was going to bet enough to win if he doubled, but not much more. I understand betting just enough to beat Amy if she misses and I understand betting as much as you can but still guarantee 2nd if you lose. I even understand betting it all on a YOLO. I don't understand betting 12K.

Seemed like a math error to me. 11k would have been a better bet, since you still guarantee second ($2,000 in winnings is better than $1,000), and you have to assume Amy is likely to be correct and will bet enough to cover second place.

So... 27,600, 3,200, 17,600.

Amy will bet at least $7,601 (she bet $8,000 - if you've been watching, she almost always went with a multiple of 1k for anything). Amy is unlikely to bet more than $9,999, as that would risk a loss if it were a triple-stumper.

Rhone needs to bet $10,001 to win no matter what if Amy misses and bets nothing, and no more than $11,199 to ensure he stays ahead of Janice. A bet of $2,400 would cover getting it right and the lowest amount he can assume Amy will bet.

Or, he can gamble a bit, and bet the full $17,600 if he doesn't care that much between $2,000 and $1,000. That way he gets $35,200 if he wins instead of the $29,600 he received. He would essentially leave a potential $17,600 - $11,199 = $6,401 on the table in order to secure that $1,000 difference between second and third.

Since Amy was 68% over the course of her run in Final, it's an interesting decision. But not that much to work through, because Amy wouldn't make the mistake of betting less than $7,601 or more than $9,999.

There's no value in betting less than $11,199 since Amy doesn't have to risk becoming vulnerable to a triple-stumper.

TL:DR, yes, the $12k wasn't an optimal bet, though I don't understand betting anything less than $11,199.

[QuikSand]

Brutal FJ tactics last night, eventually yielding the "correct" result, I suppose.

Third player is out, champ has 12,300 and challenger has 10,200. Topic is Central America, potentially important as some could feel this is a demonstrable weak spot, I suppose.

Challenger misses...turns out she bet 8,000, leaving her with 2,200.

Champ flushes... reveals she missed also... and had bet every penny.

So, that the challenger's wager was enough to place her below the level the champ would have had if she had placed the win-by-a-dollar amount and missed it. That was a totally needless risk.

It's actually that situation that the champ was apparently unworried about, and she just bet on herself with everything and went to zero, and lost. If she makes the standard leader wager there, she wins with 4,199.

Wow.

[JPhillips]

That's the situation where, if I'm in second, I bet 0. I don't want to have to have two things happen if I can win with one thing happening.

[Lathum]

That's the situation where, if I'm in second, I bet 0. I don't want to have to have two things happen if I can win with one thing happening.

I think the topic dictates the wager. If the FJ topic was text based sims or how to fudge a bank statement are you really betting zero?

[JPhillips]

It doesn't matter what I know, it's what the person in first knows. I want to avoid having to both be right and have the person in first be wrong if I can almost certainly win without having to be right.

[QuikSand]

Current champ is a good player but routinely breaks the “rules” for FJ wagering and has been a walking between raindrops to validate it. I now want him to lose because of a stupid bet, like he has the lead but doesn’t bet enough and gets beaten.

[QuikSand]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yesterday's Box Score: May 24, 2022 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/jeopardata?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#jeopardata</a> <a href="https://t.co/PUBiPWmMxg">pic.twitter.com/PUBiPWmMxg</a></p>&mdash; Jeopardy! (@Jeopardy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jeopardy/status/1529432212269047810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yesterday's Box Score: May 23, 2022 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/jeopardata?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#jeopardata</a> <a href="https://t.co/LSmjyItYK5">pic.twitter.com/LSmjyItYK5</a></p>&mdash; Jeopardy! (@Jeopardy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jeopardy/status/1529069816287461376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I guess there's a deeper second-tier logic to making a bet with an assumption that the other person will likely do something specific... but I really hate the idea of playing through the whole game and establishing a solid lead, only to blow it with a too-timid FJ bet at the end. Seriously, bet to win unless the category is a nearly total blank for you.

[JPhillips]

Did you see the one last week where the challenger got a Double Jeopardy! on the last question of the game and then didn't bet enough to get to first place?

He missed the question, so it didn't matter, but you have to be willing to bet to win or you deserve to lose.

[QuikSand]

Yes, he has done that a few times now, including 5/23. I HATE IT.

[cuervo72]

There was a game a month or two ago where the challenger was killing in in DJ, built a lead, but the champ was still within range of her. She got back-to-back DD's late in the round -- only a few answers were left at the top of the board. She got them both right but STILL hadn't bet enough to be safe in FJ. I was yelling at the TV. It was one of the worst strategic displays I have ever seen.

J! Archive - Show #8610, aired 2022-04-01 (https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7322)

[QuikSand]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yesterday's Box Score: May 27, 2022 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/jeopardata?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#jeopardata</a> <a href="https://t.co/ft2zhWjowC">pic.twitter.com/ft2zhWjowC</a></p>&mdash; Jeopardy! (@Jeopardy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jeopardy/status/1530519292592128000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So, he continues on...this time when the other player, as leader, decides to bet zero (turns out, wisely) on FJ and the champ bet to win and got it. Mysteries abound.

[JPhillips]

OMG. These final bets.

[JPhillips]

My God. These bets are going to give me an aneurism.

[Ksyrup]

This recent 3-day champ has to be the weakest in history. Two victories by $2 after missing final jeopardy. I suppose she knows more about betting final jeopardy than answering correctly.

[Ksyrup]

Worst 5 day champ ever.

[thealmighty]

I know that probably wasn't it, so what is the lowest Jeopardy winning amount?


And I agree, she is not likely to fair well in the ToC.

[Ksyrup]

Holy shit, she did it again. Third place to $2 win. I don't study Jeopardy wagering, so I don't know if she's lucky or good. But as a player, I'm going to say that Wachspress is German for lucky-shitty.

[Ksyrup]

I thought for sure she was going to win by $1 but luckily the guy got the answer correct and bet more than a $1.

[cuervo72]

I didn't watch the episode but had it on on mute in the background and did peek at it for FJ. He won, but again, WTF was that bet? You're tied and you don't bet to win? Chickenshit.

[JPhillips]

The judges are so inconsistent in regards to mispronounced answers.

[QuikSand]

I believe there are specific rules about mis-pronunciation... if you add/omit a syllable, that's definitely a wrong answer, but it does seem there's some variable latitude when it comes to accuracy past that.

[JPhillips]

Tonight it was the Harry Potter spell, expelliarmus. The contestant mispronounced was told no, mispronounced it again, and was given credit, then Bialyk pronounced it correctly.

I'm fine with being harsh or having a "we know what you meant" approach, it just seems like there's very little consistency to how they handle things.

[QuikSand]

the current host is not a contributor to stability in this regard

and her unbearable extra-half-second "slow roll" to confirm a correct result just kills me inside at least 3x per episode

[cuervo72]

Oh, my wife and I can't stand that. If it's correct, BE QUICK ABOUT IT. Don't leave everyone hanging and unsure.

There have been some games that have been clunkers. I don't know how much of that is the fault of the contestants (for just not being superplayers), how much of that is on the host, and how much of that is on the writers. (Now, I like to fashion myself as ok at trivia, but there have been some questions where after hearing them I am just like "WTF are they going for with this?" Tough to say if those are just not good questions or if there is something in the delivery.)

I do think that most of these have been "Mayim" games though. I think Ken is stronger just from having a better grasp on the subject matter, though I don't know if it's just that.

[QuikSand]

I gleefully co-sign all of the comments from the gentleman from parts west

I know these peeves would come off as picayune to the non-immersed, but the heart wants what it wants

[QuikSand]

For those who are sensitive about Final Jeopardy wagering and the offenses against common sense embedded therein...I advise you to skip the next post in this thread.

[QuikSand]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yesterday's Box Score: July 18, 2022 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/jeopardata?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#jeopardata</a> <a href="https://t.co/iYMMg5qlFt">pic.twitter.com/iYMMg5qlFt</a></p>&mdash; Jeopardy! (@Jeopardy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jeopardy/status/1549363548802924545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

An all time classic.

[QuikSand]

...so, I personally just subscribe to the simplest model for the leader. Unless the catgeory is a massive blind spot for you, you just bet enough to ensure your win if you get it correct. Perhaps more, but you do that much at a minimum.

Anyway, even if we advance her the benefit of the doubt that there's some reasonable logic behind the strategy of "bet enough to beat him if all he does is ensures he'll beat the third place contestant"... which I find dubious... there is absolutely no argument for a wager of $4,001. You at the very least play to win in that situation, and you wager $4,002. It's nearly unfathomable there's any downside to 4002 over 4001, but the upside is very meaningful, and in this case proved to determine the outcome.

Just unspeakably bad.

[Ksyrup]

I was curious about that. I didn't get the wisdom of the 1st and 2nd place money both betting just enough to beat 3rd place. It's like they were each one-on-one with the champ, or otherwise gave way too much deference to the champ and completely ignored each other. Weird.

[QuikSand]

Nobody cares she was "champ" she's not an intimidating player by any means.

I thought the middle contestant, in 2nd place, made a reasonable wager - betting enough to definitely stay clear of 3rd place person if you're correct is worthwhile. And it also would give him enough money to overtake the leader were she make the "proper" $6,001 bet but miss it.

[QuikSand]

This could be the episode that sends r/Jeopardy (in which i do not partake) into spirals of maybe contestants shoudl start betting +$2 or +8 in these cases where you want to be "just enough to..." -- there's very little downside to doing so.

[sterlingice]

What in the world was 1st place doing there?

Also, there are tiebreakers?

SI

[QuikSand]

Also, there are tiebreakers?

I don't know when they added it, but the old rule was that tied participants both got paid and returned... now it's a single question sudden death tiebreaker.

[JPhillips]

...so, I personally just subscribe to the simplest model for the leader. Unless the catgeory is a massive blind spot for you, you just bet enough to ensure your win if you get it correct. Perhaps more, but you do that much at a minimum.


You deserve to lose if you won't bet to win.

I want to have the fewest number of things happen to win. If I'm in first, bet enough to win and don't worry about the other contestants.

[Ksyrup]

Now THAT is how to bet to from the lead. Even though 2nd crapped out, had he got it right, 1st place still wins by $1.

[RainMaker]

I never thought I'd care, but I can't stand Mayim as host. I'm sure she's very nice, but Ken is just better. Finding myself skipping the one's she hosts on the DVR more frequently.

[cuervo72]

Being on the show is still my #1 bucket list item. I can feel it slipping away. My knowledge base keeps increasing, but I have more of those tip-of-the-tongue blanks - stuff I know but can't seem to retrieve. I'm also getting much worse on pop culture questions. I was always bad on music because I'm partially deaf and don't listen to much. But now, if it's a movie or television show from the last ten years, I've probably never even heard of it.

Yeah, I'm not sure if I really want to try out again at this point because I do seem to be increasingly having those brief recall lapses. A lot of these involve actors and actresses; I can picture them, I know what the answer is, but I can't find the path to the name fast enough. It's not just people though -- the other night I couldn't come up with Mount Rushmore fast enough. "Ugh, that thing with the four presidential faces." I am also slower on the word puzzles (well, anagrams, answer within given word, etc. still pretty good with straight vocab).

I don't know to what extent this is me slipping, or the fact that I watch episodes in the evening after a day of work, interspersed with trivia study where I have already reviewed 700, 800, 900 facts.

At the same time, I am killing it in categories I wouldn't have before -- art, literature, even opera. I feel like I am getting more triple stumpers. So, I dunno. (Really though I fear that I would freeze up. My nerves in public arenas have never been good.)

[Kodos]

I'm sure I would freeze up. I'm not good when put on the spot. My mind short circuits. Terrible with names. Going on Jeopardy would be a ticket to embarrassment for me. Also, I would hate the little interview the contestant segment. Not a good storyteller.


I could probably do well on Wheel of Fortune. :)

[QuikSand]

Same here on the age-related effects.

[QuikSand]

So she's been demoted to the celebrity sideshow for next season.

Was very much hoping this was so, and i had just missed the news. Alas...

‘Jeopardy!’: Mayim Bialik & Ken Jennings Close Deals To Return, Season 39 Hosting Schedule Revealed – Deadline (https://deadline.com/2022/07/jeopardy-mayim-bialik-ken-jennings-deals-season-39-hosting-schedule-celebrity-jeopardy-abc-1235079138/)

meh, taking the PC route here to try to avoid catastrophe, to unwarranted ends

[Ksyrup]

Agreed

[Ksyrup]

Together/forever

[larrymcg421]

Catching up, but just saw the July 12th episode, which had one of the worst FJ wagers and was surprised to not see it mentioned upthread.

Going into FJ

Champ: $20,000
P2: $10,000
P3: $3,200

P2 bets $3,000, apparently to cover P3 if they missed? Ridiculous, since Champ is never betting more than $1.

P2 gets it right for $13,000 and Champ (as expected) bets $1, missing to win with $19,999.

[Ksyrup]

Tonight's episode:

There's not much worse way to guarantee the champion a victory (and your own loss) than by screwing up the final answer of double jeopardy, getting ruled against, blurting out the right answer, and allowing the champion to answer correctly for $2K, thereby allowing him to guarantee he would more than double both of the other players. If the challenger gets it right, or no one answers it, the champ have been around $15,500 and the other two would have been at around $8,500 and either $10,500 or $12,500 going into final jeopardy. Instead, he waltzes to a win regardless of what happens in final jeopardy because she dropped back to $8,500 and he moved up to $17,500.

[JPhillips]

And screwing up because you gave the wrong first name. If she had just given the last name, which she knew, she would have gotten the 2K.

[Ksyrup]

Yes!

[QuikSand]

And screwing up because you gave the wrong first name. If she had just given the last name, which she knew, she would have gotten the 2K.

that was brutal, and 100% unforced