MLB Draft?

[hukarez]

Now, from what I'm able to gather...the MLB draft is held in June.

However, I'm curious as to whether or not the draft order is based on the present season's record, or the prior season's record?

Any baseball gurus out there able to educate me on how the MLB draft works? I'm guessing the Rule V draft follows shortly after the MLB draft.

[BishopMVP]

Order based on last year's record. No trading of draft picks. Also, teams can lose/gain other teams picks and get compensation picks at the end of each round based off of which free agents signed where. I thought the Rule V draft occured during/before Spring Training, and the players selected had to stay on the 40-man (or maybe 25-man) roster the whole year, but I'm not really sure.

[SackAttack]

Rule V happens in February, I believe. Amateur draft is based off the previous year's record and, as Bishop noted, free agents who receive qualifying offers from their teams, and yet sign elsewhere, the team with which they sign surrenders draft picks based on the class the player falls into, if I'm not mistaken. So the A's would get more draft picks if Zito signed elsewhere than they would if, say, their backup catcher did so.

[sovereignstar]

It should also be noted that the AL and NL switch off in receiving the first overall pick.

[Francis_Cole]

The Rule V players have to stay in the 40 man squad I belive..

[CraigSca]

Rule 5 players need to stay on the active 25-man for the entire year, or else they need to be offered back (for half the fee it cost to originally purchase the player) to the original team.

It should also be noted there are AAA and AA phases of the Rule 5 draft as well. The same thing holds true here - anyone drafted needs to be on the active roster of the higher level for the entire year.

[hukarez]

Ahh, outstanding, outstanding.

If a team with last year's record ties with another team...I'm guessing it's broken down even further via home/road records?

I guess what primarily sparked my curiousity, is that it seems the local San Diego Padres have the 1-1 overall draft pick this year - yet, I could have sworn that last year, Detroit set a franchise record in losses or what not.

I'm assuming, as previously stated by you guys, that because of Detroit's off-season acquisitions...it negated the effects of an atrocious record?

[BishopMVP]

I guess what primarily sparked my curiousity, is that it seems the local San Diego Padres have the 1-1 overall draft pick this year - yet, I could have sworn that last year, Detroit set a franchise record in losses or what not.

I'm assuming, as previously stated by you guys, that because of Detroit's off-season acquisitions...it negated the effects of an atrocious record?No. You can't lose a pick in the Top 15 because of who you signed. The AL/NL rotate who gets #1 overall, so it must be the NL's year.

[General Mike]

Here's the draft order
1. Padres
2. Tigers
3. Mets
4. Devil Rays
5. Brewers
6. Indians
7. Reds
8. Orioles
9. Rockies
10. Rangers
11. Pirates
12. Angels
13. Expos
14. Royals
15. Diamondbacks
16. Blue Jays
17. Dodgers
18. White Sox
19. Cardinals
20. Twins
21. Phillies
22. Mariners
23. Astros
24. Red Sox
25. Cubs
26. Athletics
27. Marlins
28. Yankees
29. Giants
30. Braves

Here are the compensation picks:
1st Round

22. Twins (from Mariners for Eddie Guardado)
23. Yankees (from Astros for Andy Pettitte)
24. Athletics (from Red Sox for Keith Foulke)
25. Twins (from Cubs for LaTroy Hawkins)
28. Dodgers (from Yankees for Paul Quantrill)
29. Royals (from Giants for Michael Tucker)
30. Rangers (from Braves for John Thomson)
Supplemental 1st Round

31. Royals (for Raul Ibanez)
32. Blue Jays (for Kelvim Escobar)
33. Dodgers (for Quantrill)
34. White Sox (for Bartolo Colon)
35. Twins (for Guardado)
36. Athletics (for Foulke)
37. Yankees (for Pettitte)
38. White Sox (for Tom Gordon)
39. Twins (for Hawkins)
40. Athletics (for Miguel Tejada)
41. Yankees (for David Wells)
2nd Round

42. Yankees (from Padres for Wells)
49. Athletics (from Orioles for Tejada)
53. White Sox (from Angels for Colon)
63. Royals (from Mariners for Ibanez)
69. White Sox (from Yankees for Gordon)
3rd Round

83. Blue Jays (from Angels for Escobar)

[MrBug708]

Michael Tucker cost the Giants a first round pick? I love it!

[Philliesfan980]

Even better, John Thompson cost the Braves a first.

[nfg22]

Hah twins get a first for eddie guardado and Joe Nathan is a better pitcher who we got closing now., same with latroy hawking we have a better set up for him too.

[Ksyrup]

The A's got 4 picks for Foulke and Tejada. Why is Tejada so cheap, draft pick-wise? How is a player's class determined, anyhow? Tejada is the equivalent of David Wells, Tom Gordon, and Raul Ibanez? Where's Javy Lopez?

[Ragone]

Man, I knew Micheal Tucker would bring good things to the royals.. just took him signing somewhere else to do it

[dixieflatline]

The A's got 4 picks for Foulke and Tejada. Why is Tejada so cheap, draft pick-wise? How is a player's class determined, anyhow? Tejada is the equivalent of David Wells, Tom Gordon, and Raul Ibanez? Where's Javy Lopez?

Tejada was cheap because The O's pick was protected. They would have had to surrender their first pick had it not been top 15. Class is basically determined by MLB based off how good a player hit(or threw) the previous year in comparision to the league. Only players who were arbitration eligible who were offered arbitration then turned it down(or signed before rejecting) are eligble for extra picks.

[kruseman]

I wouldn't say our set up man is better than the hawk. Hawkins is one of the best set up men in the game now. JC is a pretty good setup man, and much cheaper than Hawkins, but I would have to say that he isn't as good as Hawkins yet. I do have to agree that Nathan and Guardado are close though. Nathan has surprised me a lot. Hopefully he doesn't do what Hawkins did his first year as closer when he started hot, but after the break didn't pitch too well.

At any rate, I like the number of draft picks we are getting this year. The Twins organization always knows how to draft and bring up players, so hopefully we will see a couple of these players playing in the future for us.

[oykib]

Actually, the Giants signed Michael Tucker primarily to lose the first round draf pick. Neyer and the BP guys wrote a raft of articles about it when it happened. As an orginization San Francisco feels that first-round picks are overrated. They get million-dollar signing bonuses slotted to them even though half never make the majors.

This is the problem with the fact that there's no trading of picks.

[Bad-example]

You are very close to the truth Oykib. About the same time Neyer was commenting on this signing, Peter Gammons had an article that mentioned the lack of top level talent in this year's draft. The reason why the Giants purposely gave up their first round pick is they felt there wasn't going to be good value worth a million+ signing bonus at the end of the first round.

Gammons basically said that most first round selections this year would be 2nd rounders most other years.

[JasonC23]

You are very close to the truth Oykib. About the same time Neyer was commenting on this signing, Peter Gammons had an article that mentioned the lack of top level talent in this year's draft. The reason why the Giants purposely gave up their first round pick is they felt there wasn't going to be good value worth a million+ signing bonus at the end of the first round.

Gammons basically said that most first round selections this year would be 2nd rounders most other years.
But still...Michael Tucker?? :eek:

[hukarez]

No. You can't lose a pick in the Top 15 because of who you signed. The AL/NL rotate who gets #1 overall, so it must be the NL's year.
Ah, so in this year, the Padres had the worst record last year for the NL? How about ties for last place? Say, in the AL, there were two teams tied for last place and it was the AL's year for #1 overall, etc...

[cthomer5000]

Actually, the Giants signed Michael Tucker primarily to lose the first round draf pick. Neyer and the BP guys wrote a raft of articles about it when it happened. As an orginization San Francisco feels that first-round picks are overrated. They get million-dollar signing bonuses slotted to them even though half never make the majors.
That's just stupid though. Why not pull an Oakland, and draft a later-round quality prospect in the 1st round with the guarantee of signing him cheaply?

[Crapshoot]

Dont frigging remind- Sabes is unconventional at times. And Michael FREKAING Tucker was my reaction as well... Basically, It gives him an extra 1.5 mil he could use on the ML team.

[Blade6119]

4 kids from my school are going in, and id be willing to bet 1 of them, Willie Fox, is better then Brandon Wood who was taken first round last year(Wood played for our rivals and i saw the two play against each other in the state finals). They all have Div.1 scholarships, but enter the draft for fun...thats something i dont like, how you can enter, get drafted, and still go to college...

[lynchjm24]

4 kids from my school are going in, and id be willing to bet 1 of them, Willie Fox, is better then Brandon Wood who was taken first round last year(Wood played for our rivals and i saw the two play against each other in the state finals). They all have Div.1 scholarships, but enter the draft for fun...thats something i dont like, how you can enter, get drafted, and still go to college...


You don't really 'enter' the draft. You are either eligble or ineligble. Teams register player's names with the league.

Why would getting drafted keep you from going to college if that is what you wanted to do?