(Poker) YABBS. (Yet Another Bad Beat Story)

[SirFozzie]

Transcript for game #532160872 requested by
SirFozzie([email protected])
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PokerStars Game #532160872: Tournament #2021736, Hold'em No Limit -
Level II (15/30) - 2004/07/08 - 19:52:20 (ET)
Table '2021736 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: cheapshotmck (1985 in chips)
Seat 2: Pisan (155 in chips)
Seat 3: SirFozzie (995 in chips)
Seat 4: chuckaroo (700 in chips)
Seat 5: Castle7 (3935 in chips)
Seat 6: bobcat (1400 in chips)
Seat 7: mirita (2010 in chips)
Seat 9: IceManDa1 (2320 in chips)
bobcat: posts small blind 15
mirita: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SirFozzie [9c 9s]
IceManDa1: calls 30
cheapshotmck: folds
Pisan: calls 30
SirFozzie: raises 120 to 150
chuckaroo: raises 550 to 700 and is all-in
Castle7: folds
bobcat: folds
mirita: folds
IceManDa1: folds
Pisan: calls 125 and is all-in
SirFozzie: calls 550
*** FLOP *** [8h 5c 9h]
*** TURN *** [8h 5c 9h] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [8h 5c 9h 7c] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SirFozzie: shows [9c 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Sevens)
chuckaroo: shows [Jh Th] (a straight flush, Seven to Jack)
chuckaroo collected 1090 from side pot
Pisan: shows [Tc Qc] (a pair of Sevens)
chuckaroo collected 540 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1630 Main pot 540. Side pot 1090. | Rake 0
Board [8h 5c 9h 7c 7h]
Seat 1: cheapshotmck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Pisan showed [Tc Qc] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 3: SirFozzie showed [9c 9s] and lost with a full house, Nines full
of Sevens
Seat 4: chuckaroo showed [Jh Th] and won (1630) with a straight flush,
Seven to Jack
Seat 5: Castle7 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bobcat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: mirita (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: IceManDa1 folded before Flop

[Chappy]

I think the same thing happened to Steve McQueen in 'The Cincinnatti Kid'. ;)

[TRO]

Not sure how that is considered a bad beat, at least not a horrible one.

Edit: Though it does suck when hit a nice boat that doesn't pan out.

[RPI-Fan]

Yea', on this one Foz, doesn't really seem that bad. You were 50/50 preflop, on the flop you were obviously ahead, on the turn you were behind to the point where only 3 cards on the river (2 5's and 1 9) I think?

[Radii]

Yea', on this one Foz, doesn't really seem that bad. You were 50/50 preflop, on the flop you were obviously ahead, on the turn you were behind to the point where only 3 cards on the river (2 5's and 1 9) I think?

I'm assuming you mean cards that will win you the hand. the final 9, any 8 to pair the board, any 5 to pair the board, and a 7 that isn't a heart, so 2 of the remaining 7s. 9 outs.

Before the flop, the 9's are 38%, QTs is 33%, JTs is 25%.

On the flop the set is still only 50%, JTs 39% and QTs is 10% to win the hand.

The once the straight hits for JTs he's 60% to win it, and the set and the QT are each 20%(QT hving picked up the flush draw)

[sabotai]

A long time ago, a friend of mine ran a BBS called YABBS (Yet Another BBS). It came to mind when reading the title. That's it, just sharing. :)

[Glengoyne]

I dunno if I call it a bad beat. You were ahead, but he had an open ended straight draw, a flush draw, an open ended straight flush draw when he pushed all in. That gives him a lot of cards that win the hand outright if a pair doesn't hit the table.

[Vince]

I believe he pushed all in pre-flop, if I'm reading that correctly...

[primelord]

Why did you call the preflop raise?

[SirFozzie]

Basically, I had a good read on the person involved, or at least I thought I did. He was fond of race situations, 50/50, and would press the advantage over agressively (in my view with two top cards, or a minor pair. I raised initially to try to thin the field, and the amount of time he took indicated that at WORST, I was in a race, and at best I was a clear favorite.

[primelord]

Basically, I had a good read on the person involved, or at least I thought I did. He was fond of race situations, 50/50, and would press the advantage over agressively (in my view with two top cards, or a minor pair. I raised initially to try to thin the field, and the amount of time he took indicated that at WORST, I was in a race, and at best I was a clear favorite.
Do you want to be in a race this early in the tournament though? If a player is that bad it seems like there is probably a better place to take your shot.

[SirFozzie]

To be honest, I put him on a 66-88 area pair. Figured I was a huge advantage type ;)

[kcchief19]

Here's a bad-beat question. I'm working on playing more conservatively and in my play last night I only had two hands where I we had an all-in where I came from behind to win. Once was when I had AdKd against QhQs and the flop was Jd 5d 10x and turn was I think 3x. I would bet, he would re-raise, I'd call. After the turn, he went all-in. Based on his betting, I thought he must have had no better than a low pocket pair or maybe a K or J and trash. He went all-in reraise on the turn. I figure I had too many outs not to call -- I had a straight draw, flush draw and an A or K to beat a pocket pair or board pair. River was a Q, so even though he had a nice hand, I didn't consider it that bad a beat.

The one I felt bad about was me with K9 and K5. Flop was a rainbow K53. He only called pre-flop and on the first round of betting on the flop. It wasn't until I reraised the initial flop bet that he reraised me all-in. Since I put him at a lower pair, I called and then cringed when I saw he had two pair. Turn was garbage and I caught a 9 on the river.

I thought that was a pretty bad beat, but maybe I'm too hard on myself.

[Glengoyne]

I believe he pushed all in pre-flop, if I'm reading that correctly...
Ooops, I missed that.


Hell re-reading it, I can't really understand why either of them were doing what they were doing, then.