MLB All-Star Game Thoughts......

[TLK]

how did five (I think I counted right) Indians make the American League team?.....

[SackAttack]

The same way Adrian Beltre hit .315 with 22 HR and 56 RBI in the first half and didn't even merit a spot on the "Final Five" fan balloting for the final All-Star spot.

In other words, people are idiots.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'd probably have more thoughts about the game if I could see it.

Not sure when it began, but it appears that Dish Network is suffering a complete outage of all local channel signals, or at least they are in this area (since I got a "we are currently working to fix reported outtages in your area" msg from the customer svc line.

[TLK]

are you kidding me? (they couldn't find anyone else to sing the National Anthem????)

[Philliesfan980]

Why everyone is in love with the American Idle winner is beyond me. That voice just isn't right.

[Ryan S]

Oh. My. God.

[JeeberD]

Easiest million bucks ever for that dude in the Taco Bell contest. He had a limp noodle for an arm and still managed to get five balls in...

[MrBug708]

Are the Expos THAT bad if Livan is representing them?

[vtbub]

A mix of Macy Gray and Denice Williams.

Ouch

[MrBug708]

Easiest million bucks ever for that dude in the Taco Bell contest. He had a limp noodle for an arm and still managed to get five balls in...

Nolan Ryan must have thought that he shoulda held out for a better contract back in his days so he wouldn't be Taco Bell spots rooting for some lame guy who got 13 tries to throw a ball as a strike.

[Philliesfan980]

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel just awkward instead of inspired when they see Ali come out to events like this? It was emotional the first time (olympics), but now its just not the same.

Also.. his Son is BIG for 13. He's got middle linebacker written all over him.

[vtbub]

Nice triple by I-Rod

[CraigSca]

Who's this Roger Clemens guy? He stinks!

[MrBug708]

Who's this Roger Clemens guy? He stinks!

Maybe Randy Johnson should have started.....

[Ksyrup]

OK, I'm starting to think the joke about Piazza playing Crash Davis and tipping Clemens' pitches to the hitters as revenge is looking more and more realistic...

Man, wouldn't that be funny?

[MrBug708]

No wonder the Astros aren't in first, they all blow....

[TLK]

can they take Clemens out in the first inning?

[MrBug708]

Heh....Rocket blows....

[Fouts]

I could hit a homer in that park, what a joke.

[digamma]

Clemens just pitched for the cycle.

In the first inning.

[JeeberD]

:(

[Philliesfan980]

Thanks Clemens, if the slight chance the Phillies get to the WS, I'll have you to blame.

[CraigSca]

As an O's fan, I have to ask why Roger Clemens was doing his best Sidney Ponson impression? Was he traded to the Orioles without my knowledge?

[Fouts]

haha, check the bat.

[sterlingice]

Dear God! Kill that baseball! It's like a baseball version of Clippy from MS Office.

Maybe Randy Johnson should have started.....
How about Jason Schmidt who really deserved to start?

SI

[kingfc22]

How about Jason Schmidt who really deserved to start?

SI
Beat me to it. The whole it's in Houston and the fact that he pitched on Sunday played into that decision. But Schmidt is the best in the NL right now.

[Ksyrup]

Schmidt threw 127 pitches Sunday. Doubtful he would have started anyway.

[Ksyrup]

I'm shocked that I didn't hear the name Atlee Hammaker during Clemens' stint on the mound...

[kingfc22]

Bonds doesn't even get a strike in the All-Star game. What a joke.

[Tekneek]

I guess you guys aren't having a problem with the stupid computer-generated advertisements behind home plate? On my TV it makes the pitcher's upper body look like it is computer generated as well...especially when the white Bank of America slate is up.

Not every pitcher is actually tall enough to get that affect, but it is happening for the catcher and umpire too. Money talks, screw the fans who might actually want it to look like a real baseball game and not an Xbox baseball game...

[kingfc22]

ENOUGH of the Clemens tributes. Didn't he have the whole year last season as a going away tribute?

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Do the tribute before the game. Do it after. Not during.

Wouldn't it be great if clemens just punched selig in the face right now?

[JonInMiddleGA]

The Commissioner's Historic Tribute Award (or whatever the heck he said) ?

WTF is that? The 8th such award presented? Off-hand, I don't think I've ever heard of it.

[stevew]

Clemens should pick up the plaque, hit Selig over the head with it, then rip off his Astros jersey and reveal his NWO shirt.

[JeeberD]

I need more beer...

[kingfc22]

Do the tribute before the game. Do it after. Not during.

But this time it counts.:rolleyes:

What a bunch of bull.

[TLK]

I need more beer...
yes.... me too.... but I need to be at work at 7am.... so I think I'll cut back....

[MikeVic]

Clemens should pick up the plaque, hit Selig over the head with it, then rip off his Astros jersey and reveal his NWO shirt.

I second that motion.

[bbor]

How were the Hip?They sang the Canadian national anthem.

[JeeberD]

There's a Canadian national anthem?

[stevew]

Im tired of the ever stretching of the Star Spangled Banner. Its getting turned into a long ass ballad.

[stevew]

How many HotDogs has Studdard had already. Im putting the Over/under at 7.

[Tasan]

There's a Canadian national anthem?
The star spangled banner?















Oh wait, they aren't states, yet...

[Maple Leafs]

There's a Canadian national anthem?You thought it was the NHL's marketing jingle, didn't you?

[bbor]

There's a Canadian national anthem?

It's the song they play when your marines carry our flag upside down :)

[vtbub]

A flag doing what now?

I thought we annexed you back in 1867. ;)

[hukarez]

Has anyone ever gotten injured during an All Star game? :confused:

[vtbub]

Dizzy Dean broke his foot back in the 30's and was never the same pitcher.

[JeeberD]

Didn't Hoyt Wilhelm tweak his ankle or something during an All-Star game and it make him change his pitching motion so much that he would up ruining his shoulder?

Edit: I must have been thinking about what bub just mentioned...

[stevew]

Pete rose ended roy fosse's career

[stevew]

He ran him over at the plate, and the guy was never the same.

[vtbub]

Pete rose ended roy fosse's career


Bowled him over scoring in the '70 game.

[Aesyrqwe]

Damn stevew, bout to post that

Anyway, homefield advantage would look nice for the white sox..

-Aes-

[Schmidty]

The fact that Carlos Guillen wasn't put into the game over Michael Young is bullshit. Guillen has arguably been the best SS in the league so far this year. Stupid fucking Torre. It's not like the game was close.

[Aesyrqwe]

Konerko instead of Giambi anyone?
Sad he didn't even make the team..

All I can figure is that Torre hates the White Sox.

-Aes-

[stevew]

Man, if the NL rallies and ties it up, we could see another tie. Neither side has hardly any players left.

[Schmidty]

They didn't even put Guillen into the game as a defensive replacement in the 9th. Instead, they keep the shittiest defensive SS in the game on the field.

[stevew]

They didn't even put Guillen into the game as a defensive replacement in the 9th. Instead, they keep the shittiest defensive SS in the game on the field.

Jeter?

[stevew]

dola....apparently, tho, its a great defensive play when you catch a ball on the run, and run for about 5 more steps and crash into the crowd.

[Schmidty]

This game made me hate the Yankees and Joe Torre even more than I did before. Such horseshit.

[Aesyrqwe]

This game made me hate the Yankees and Joe Torre even more than I did before.

I've reached a point where I couldn't possibly hate either of them anymore than I already do..

Even before this game..

-Aes-

[MrBug708]

The fact that Carlos Guillen wasn't put into the game over Michael Young is bullshit. Guillen has arguably been the best SS in the league so far this year. Stupid fucking Torre. It's not like the game was close.


Um...No?

[stevew]

I guess the running theme this game was who could have the dirtiest, nastiest batting helmet. Thome and Vlad's were just covered all over with shit.

[Schmidty]

Um...No?

Habla?

[kingfc22]

I guess the running theme this game was who could have the dirtiest, nastiest batting helmet. Thome and Vlad's were just covered all over with shit.
I thought it was American Idol with all the damn appearances and the musical overtones constantly in the background. Yanni anybody. FOX sure knows how to screw up a baseball broadcast.

[MrBug708]

Michael YOung has the A-Rodless Rangers near the top of the pack in the AL Central. HE also leads the majors in hits and is filling the shoes of A-Rod himself. Ozzie Guillen is a nice pick, but doesnt deserve to be there ahead of Young.

[JeeberD]

Ozzie Guillen played tonight? I didn't think they allowed managers onto the field... ;)

[MrBug708]

Carlos, Ozzie...

[Schmidty]

Michael YOung has the A-Rodless Rangers near the top of the pack in the AL Central. HE also leads the majors in hits and is filling the shoes of A-Rod himself. Ozzie Guillen is a nice pick, but doesnt deserve to be there ahead of Young.

Wow. That was an amazingly messed up post. Where to start?

1. Texas is not in the AL Central, they are in the AL West.

2. It's Carlos Guillen, not Ozzie Guillen (is he still in the league?).

3. After having one of the worst teams in the history of baseball last year, the Tigers are only 3 games under .500 and only 5 games out of first. They've only got 5 less wins than Texas. Guillen has been a huge reason why.

4. Young leads the league in hits, but he also has had 54 more ABs than Guillen. Regardless of total hits, Guillen has simply been more productive at the plate and defensively. Look at the numbers:

Young
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG OPS
86 384 64 127 18 6 12 53 28 49 7 .331 .375 .503 .878

Guillen
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB BA OBP SLG OPS
85 330 64 107 24 7 13 65 37 55 7 .324 .391 .558 .948


There is little doubt that Guillen has been better than Young, and has probably also been the best SS in the entire league this year.

[Chief Rum]

While I generally agree with all the points Schmidty made above, it's scary to me that the guy doesn't know Ozzie Guillen is the manager of the White Sox, one of the teams his Tigers has to pass to get to the top of the AL Central.

I mean, Bug could be forgiven the dumb slip as Guillen used to practically mean "Ozzie" in baseball, but Schmidty doesn't even know the guy is a manager of a primary rival of his favorite team? Ouch.

CR

[rkmsuf]

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel just awkward instead of inspired when they see Ali come out to events like this? It was emotional the first time (olympics), but now its just not the same.

Also.. his Son is BIG for 13. He's got middle linebacker written all over him.

very awkward. it's like they parade him around.

[Schmidty]

While I generally agree with all the points Schmidty made above, it's scary to me that the guy doesn't know Ozzie Guillen is the manager of the White Sox, one of the teams his Tigers has to pass to get to the top of the AL Central.

I mean, Bug could be forgiven the dumb slip as Guillen used to practically mean "Ozzie" in baseball, but Schmidty doesn't even know the guy is a manager of a primary rival of his favorite team? Ouch.

CR

I only focus on my own beloved team, the Tigers. You should know that, Matt. ;)

[Desert Dweeb]

Why everyone is in love with the American Idle winner is beyond me. That voice just isn't right.

FOX is showing the game. That is why.

[IMetTrentGreen]

cleveland has one of the top 3-4 offenses in the league. just thought i'd point that out

[Chief Rum]

cleveland has one of the top 3-4 offenses in the league. just thought i'd point that out

That must be why they have two pitchers on the team.

CR

[IMetTrentGreen]

that was a stupid thing to post

[IMetTrentGreen]

i had like, reasons and stuff, but then i saw your sigline and just went with stupid. just so everyone knows why i went trite there.

[Chief Rum]

i had like, reasons and stuff, but then i saw your sigline and just went with stupid. just so everyone knows why i went trite there.

Yeah, you have certainly established your credentials for using reason and logic in your posts here at FOFC.

CR

[IMetTrentGreen]

i dont bother doing that anymore. whenever i use logic or reason people just ignore it, preferring instead of focus on my confidence or cuss words or whatever, and not my actually arguement. whenever you do its debating semantics about somethign someone may or may not have said that has nothing to do with the point of the thread anyway

doesn't bother me, though, i'm almost always right. go check out the MLB talk thread. my post from 5/4. then argue with it. i'd like to see that

[Ksyrup]

Colon is not good.

[WSUCougar]

doesn't bother me,though, i'm almost always right. go check out the MLB talk thread. my post from 5/4. then argue with it. i'd like to see that
I dub thee The Mediocre Kreskin.

[Schmidty]

I dub thee The Mediocre Kreskin.

You're my favorite poster. Seriously.

[IMetTrentGreen]

dont you have a 'we are AGOPTCTTFHSOTTSS (A Group Of People That Can't Tell Touching From Horrible, Sappy, Over The Top Shit Spew)' to write?

[IMetTrentGreen]

see?

[Chief Rum]

I checked it out. What's to see? I mean, you totally flubbed the Guillen thing, as you yourself even admitted, Vlad is on his way to a possible Triple Crown (if Manny Ramirez doesn't get it) although I admit you never denied hsi ability, you failed to mention Escobar--the Angels best pitcher in the first half, and completely struck out on Colon, you also forgot to mention one of the best bullpens in baseball (ever hearda K-Rod?), and your observations on Erstad and Eckstein and Kennedy look downright foolish considering that two of them are hitting over .290, and the third is playing great defense (and not too shabby at .264 either).

You don't know baseball from your own ass. Like I said in another thread, see you in September. Or I won't see you, more like.

CR

[WSUCougar]

dont you have a 'we are AGOPTCTTFHSOTTSS (A Group Of People That Can't Tell Touching From Horrible, Sappy, Over The Top Shit Spew)' to write?
You know, my original draft had the line

"We are a deluded ass from Texas who thinks he's a genius"

in it, but it didn't make the final cut. Sorry, bud. :(

[Chief Rum]

Colon is not good.

You're right, Ksyrup. Right now he isn't good. But mark it down and ridicule me later if I am wrong--he will be good in the second half. It won't end up ebing a great season for him, but it will get a lot better than it is right now.

CR

[Ksyrup]

Aside from the fact that he can't get much worse, I hope he at least pitches well enough so that he gets enough innings to shatter the HRs Allowed record. I've never liked the guy - he just doesn't look like a major league pitcher. He's fat, he's goofy-looking...and now he's finally pitching like he looks.

[IMetTrentGreen]

you also forgot to mention one of the best bullpens in baseball

read it again.

and your observations on Erstad and Eckstein and Kennedy look downright foolish considering that two of them are hitting over .290, and the third is playing great defense (and not too shabby at .264 either)

i know what they are hitting. an empty, powerless sub-.300 avg. doesn't impress me. erstad sucks, and will fall off (from a point that isn't that high anyway). .264 is average, which is exactly what i said kennedy was. eckstein has zero home runs. thats awful. they blow. face it. anyone with any knowledge of baseball would know that an average of .280 with like 8 combined homers doesn't win you much. they also know how unreliable batting average is as a judge of talent. nice try though

as for escobar i did mention him one time on this board. i thought it was that thread but apparently not. i said he had a lot of talent but was extremely inconsistent. he has a 3.91 era (thats your best? ha!) that bears that out. some good games, some bad games. this year he has been been better than he has been, but i wonder if that is just a better defense behind him, becuase the difference isn't much

[Schmidty]

Aside from the fact that he can't get much worse, I hope he at least pitches well enough so that he gets enough innings to shatter the HRs Allowed record. I've never liked the guy - he just doesn't look like a major league pitcher. He's fat, he's goofy-looking...and now he's finally pitching like he looks.

At least he doesn't wear his hat like C.C. Sabathia. That guy is a complete gonad.

[IMetTrentGreen]

You know, my original draft had the line

"We are a deluded ass from Texas who thinks he's a genius"

in it, but it didn't make the final cut. Sorry, bud.

that post was so bad, so, so very bad, that it actually made me leave this board for three months (or however long it was. thats 100% true). it wasn't just a straw on a camels back it was like an iron girder. so, if you post another one, it might just do the trick forever. i know just thought might make you imagine a huge fofc group huge

[IMetTrentGreen]

and completely struck out on Colon

i was one of few (if anyone) to call his downfall, actually. i wish i had that escbar post becuase i think it was one that one

plus i looked up escobars stats, and here's how his season era has gone:

0 -> 4.88 -> 3.27 -> 3.91

the lack of dates makes that seem a little unimpressive, but thats inconsistency at its finest. i really really wish i could find that post

[WSUCougar]

i know just thought might make you imagine a huge fofc group huge
Um, ya left out about 18 words or so there. Care to edit?

[Chief Rum]

And now we know the source and length of FOFC's Golden Age. ;)

CR

[IMetTrentGreen]

i left out the and added an e to hug. i've had worse

[IMetTrentGreen]

Yeah, I agree. Not sure why you think that, dawgfan. As an Angels fan, the M's signing of Auriliia is one of the more depressing news of the offseason for me. I think that's a pretty quality signing, and he's a heck of a lot better than Guillen.

remember that one? one of the two of us knew he sucked. since im a nice guy, i'll let you have a question you can probably answer correctly: which one of us was it?

[IMetTrentGreen]

i did jsut run across a thread where chief run picked the diamondbacks to get to the WS. lol. i continue looking . . .

i give up. i did find a nice thread in which there were said:

in seattle, they have rich aurelia and jeff cirillo on the same side of the infield. both these guys are done

cirillo was gone already, but there is why i can get on CR for thinking aurellia was good. i went on to say i thought they were the 3rd best team in the division, obviously not counting texas

losing mike cameron will hurt tremendously, his defense took away a lot of runs last year. replacing him with raul ibanez is not good, since raul's numbers are an illusion created by hitting in at kaufman field, which is a huge hitters park. safeco reduces a lot of extra base hits, so expect ibanez to regress to a .260 hitter

ibanez is currently hitting .262. mike cameron is currently helping the mets have one of the lowest team era's in the league (yes i know its not all him)

anahiem will be better, but 2002 was an abberation where everyone had career years at once. their infield can't hit, and darren erstad is waaaayy overrated. better hope vlad can carry the load, and garret anderson stays somewhat healthy. colon shouldn't be enough to help the starters, but you never know. expect a good season and a losing fight at the wildcard to ny/boston

bla-dow

[Chief Rum]

remember that one? one of the two of us knew he sucked. since im a nice guy, i'll let you have a question you can probably answer correctly: which one of us was it?

Unlike you, I don't insist I am right every time. I was certainly wrong there, although you can't say there wasn't any factual basis for my observations. Aurillia had been an established player and Guillen had proven himself to be an injury-prone underachiever.

We can't all make the right call. You don't really want me to delve into your predictions, do you, Mr. Texas Over Oklahoma?

CR

[Chief Rum]

i did jsut run across a thread where chief run picked the diamondback to get to the WS. lol. i continue looking . . .

Yes, I did. I picked them to lose to the Red Sox. Here was my posted reasoning at the time (preseason)...

Hey, anyone can come out of that NL West. If the Big Unit is healthy, he and Webb form as good a 1-2 as most teams. The offense should be very good with Sexson and Hillenbrand for whole years, and Gonzalez still around. It's not the best team in the NL, but it's good enough to win the NL West. Once it wins the NL West, the factor of having a dominating #1 pitcher (and maybe two with Webb, if he takes the next step) becomes more important in the playoffs.

Besides, I just couldn't call a Cubs-Red Sox World Series. That's like asking for fate to come down and slap me.

I don't think there is anything unreasonable there. Sexson's injury (and others) hurt them big time. Webb has been inconsistent, as w2ell. The NL West looks just as befuddled now as it did then, so I was right on with that. I just picked the wrong team.

BTW, I also posted this in that thread, a prediction thread, addressed to you, IMTG...

dola,

Oh, yeah, and I have a Confuciius saying for you: He who casts stones without posting his own predictions is a big pussy.

CR

And guess what big pussy was too much of a chickenshit to post his predictions?

CR

[IMetTrentGreen]

i didnt want to type all that out. if you'd like i can try to find my post on another forum where i did.

You don't really want me to delve into your predictions, do you, Mr. Texas Over Oklahoma?

actually, i do. go find a post where i predict this

[Chief Rum]

i didnt want to type all that out. if you'd like i can try to find my post on another forum where i did.



actually, i do. go find a post where i predict this

Excuses, whatever.

Chances are you never actually made a prediction (in football or baseball), since you have proven yourself to be a bit, shall we say, timid in the area of making predictions when they count?

CR

[IMetTrentGreen]

i was going to write something, but who gives a crap

ou 34 - texas 10

that was the most recent one

[IMetTrentGreen]

Chances are you never actually made a prediction (in football or baseball), since you have proven yourself to be a bit, shall we say, timid in the area of making predictions when they count?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

you just made me fall out of my chair!!!!!!!

first im always wrong, now that i have been proven right i don't make predictions! HAHAHAHAHAHA

[IMetTrentGreen]

the search doesn't go back any farther. if someone can give me a link to the old board i can find more texas/ou predictions

[IMetTrentGreen]

i can see why you guys hate me. this must totally suck for you

[Chief Rum]

I said chances are. I didn't say for a fact. It is a fact you didn't bother making baseball predictions. Forgive me if I have to assume you would do the same elsewhere. And you're lucky this forum doesn't go back further than a year and change, because I wouldn't be surprised if you were picking Texas prior to last year.

Of course, I also seem to remember you spent a lot of time picking badly over Colorado-Texas games and Big 12 championships, so maybe that's where I am looking.

CR

[WSUCougar]

Dear God, he's like a poor man's Hornsmaniac.

[Chief Rum]

Dear God, he's like a poor man's Hornsmaniac.

I would say I am more like a slightly more liberal JonInMiddleGA actually--oh wait, you're talking about him, huh? :)

CR

[Huckleberry]

I like nachos.

[Cards4ever]

Come on guys, IMTG could be off making millions in the stock market or crushing casinos with his predictions, but instead, he shares it all with us! Are we lucky or what?!

[Huckleberry]

Hey, I'm the one that predicted a Cardinals division title. Where are my props? I had the Phillies, Cardinals, and Padres in the NL with an Astros wild-card berth.

Red Sox, AL Central team name goes here, A's, and Yankees in the AL.

[IMetTrentGreen]

see? since no one can hang, they choose to mock. thats the life i chose though

[Schmidty]

see? since no one can hang, they choose to mock. thats the life i chose though
Capitalization + Correct Punctuation = Beginnings of Respect.

[korme]

jimy williams is teh fired!

[sterlingice]

I dub thee The Mediocre Kreskin.
Classic! This is going into my humor thread below when I get a chance.

SI

[Philliesfan980]

Nothing like getting fired right after sitting in the dugout during the all star game.

[Chief Rum]

Nothing like getting fired right after sitting in the dugout during the all star game.

And at your very home park, to boot.

CR

[Philliesfan980]

And at your very home park, to boot.

CR


To be honest, its a classy move by the Astros. They could have easily fired him on Monday , but it would have ruined the game for him.

[rkmsuf]

I don't think he really met trent green

[Ksyrup]

To be honest, its a classy move by the Astros. They could have easily fired him on Monday , but it would have ruined the game for him.
Yeah, I'm sure he had much more fun being on national TV and having his home crowd boo him as if he was Grady Little in Boston after last year's ALCS.

[Ksyrup]

see? since no one can hang, they choose to mock. thats the life i chose though
You, sir, are the Max Kellerman of FOFC.

[rkmsuf]

What is "hang" anyway? How can I hang with you? Help me, help me...

[Ksyrup]

What is "hang" anyway? How can I hang with you? Help me, help me...We cannot possibly strive to met his mental acuity, therefore we cannot 'hang' with him.

[rkmsuf]

his powers are astounding

[SirFozzie]

Are you calling us ignorant fucktards?