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Arles
07-22-2004, 04:34 PM
It's getting almost comical how bad the New York media wants the Yankees to get Randy Johnson. But, I have to admit this story takes the cake.

First, the statement "that he feels his teammates are beneath him by not talking to them" is just silly. Randy rarely talks to anyone. When he was in the series in 2001, he went an entire day without saying a word to anyone but Damien Miller. I suppose he felt his teammates were beneath them back then as well. :rolleyes:

Then, there's this gem: "With Johnson blatantly unhappy, the Diamondbacks will have to contemplate what keeping him past the July 31 non-waivers trading deadline would do to the franchise."

Randy came out yesterday and said he hasn't even approached the GM yet, and isn't campaigning to leave town. He also said this situation is nothing like what happened in Seattle when the Mariners refused to extend his contract and Segui ripped into him in the media. Johnson said last night that he is very happy in Arizona and hopes to finish his career here because he can be close to his family. The idea of being away from then for all next year is not something his is very fond of.

This is crazy as well:
"It's baseball tradition for a pitcher who throws a perfect game or no-hitter to buy a gift for teammates ... To celebrate his May 18 perfect game against the Atlanta Braves, however, Johnson didn't exactly break the bank."

Sheesh. Combine that when them trying to hype out every Yankee prospect (including some not even hitting their wife's weight) is just crazy. And to think, I thought you were supposed to be atleast a little objective when covering sports news stories...

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spytrade213901170jul21,0,163371.story?coll=ny-sports-print

"Big Unit is big problem"

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Randy Johnson's behavior has become so intolerable in the last few weeks that his Diamondbacks teammates are now openly rooting for their ace to be traded, a National League source said yesterday.

While the Diamondbacks have told numerous people outside their organization how much they dislike the Yankees' prospects, Johnson's antics could force his club's hand. The five-time Cy Young Award winner has informed Arizona general manager Joe Garagiola, Jr., both directly and through his agents Barry Meister and Alan Nero, that he would waive his no-trade clause only to go to the Yankees.

The source, who has had close contact with Diamondbacks players, said that Johnson has virtually cut himself off from fellow players. He has given off the impression, the source said, that he feels his teammates are beneath him by not talking to them.

While the Angels have increased their level of interest in a trade for Johnson, Anaheim officials are pessimistic that they can pull off the deal. Their prospects are regarded higher than the Yankees', but the Angels can't trade young third baseman Dallas McPherson because they have him slated to start at the hot corner next year. Troy Glaus, the injured impending free agent, is expected to be elsewhere. And Johnson, so far, has not given his blessing to an Angels trade.

Johnson's behavior in Arizona mirrors his actions with the Mariners in 1998. That year, the lefthander was upset with Seattle management because it wouldn't grant him a contract extension. Johnson pitched poorly, going 9-10 with a 4.33 ERA, and he started a fight with teammate David Segui. The Mariners ultimately dealt him to Houston on July 31.

The five-time Cy Young Award winner got into a tussle with longtime Arizona teammate Luis Gonzalez during a July 9 game, pushing the outfielder against a water cooler. The action greatly upset Johnson's teammates, who have appreciated Gonzalez's grinding through a right elbow injury that will require Tommy John surgery next month.

It's baseball tradition for a pitcher who throws a perfect game or no-hitter to buy a gift for teammates, a sign that it takes a whole team to attain such greatness. Former Yankees David Wells and David Cone both purchased jewelry for their teammates for their perfect games in 1998 and 1999, respectively.

To celebrate his May 18 perfect game against the Atlanta Braves, however, Johnson didn't exactly break the bank. This was before it was known he might be headed out of town, but he handed out a commemorative scorecard and ticket to each member of the team.

With Johnson blatantly unhappy, the Diamondbacks will have to contemplate what keeping him past the July 31 non-waivers trading deadline would do to the franchise. If Johnson is determined to destroy his relationship with everyone in Arizona, then it might be best to give him to the Yankees and spend his $16 million salary elsewhere.

The Diamondbacks think that Yankees minor-league catcher Dioner Navarro is solid defensively, but doesn't have the capability to hit for power, and they haven't loved second baseman Robinson Cano. They would like pitching prospects most of all, and the Yankees have no attractive pitchers on their higher-level minor-league clubs.

Many teams like righthander Edwardo Sierra, who has 21 saves for Class-A Tampa, and outfielder Melky Cabrera, who is hitting .309 for Tampa.

EagleFan
07-22-2004, 04:57 PM
What do you expect from New York?

Philliesfan980
07-22-2004, 05:03 PM
The fact that the Yankees payroll is about 40-50 million more than anyone else in baseball and they aren't as dominating as they could be pretty much sums up the GM there. Dollar for dollar, gotta be one of the worst managed franchises out there.

Lathum
07-22-2004, 05:19 PM
I think the Dbacks would be well suited to trade him because they won't win anytime soon, but Johnson strikes me as the kind of guy who has won his ring and now just wants to finish his career on his terms close to his family. The New York media is stupid and will make him look bad either way.

If he goes to the yankees it's because he was so intolerable in Arizona. If he stays in Arizona it is because he is selfish and won't help his franchise.

pennywisesb
07-22-2004, 05:28 PM
The fact that the Yankees payroll is about 40-50 million more than anyone else in baseball and they aren't as dominating as they could be pretty much sums up the GM there. Dollar for dollar, gotta be one of the worst managed franchises out there.
Does anyone else find it amusing that the Yankees might not be able to pull a trade off with the Diamondbacks? Since when can't Cashman pull the trigger on a trade?! I love it to be honest, that Cashman has completely dismantled the Yankees farm system to the extent that he can't pull this thing off without the help of a third team. :D

Arles
07-22-2004, 05:59 PM
I think the Dbacks would be well suited to trade him
I disagree. They won't get even close to equal value for him, just a few mid-level prospects. Instead, why not keep him for this year and the next. They can afford his contract. If they let Finley go at the end of the season, Sexson's current salary + his salary will equal the deal that Richie wants (11-12 mil). They will also lose Matt Mantei's $7 mil salary at the end of the year. Then, if they can get a decent .260-12 HR defensive catcher, one more starter (3-4 type guy) and another arm for the pen, they may not be that bad in 2005. Here's the way their lineup would shake out:

C - FA/Hammock
1B - Sexson
2B - Hairston/Kata
SS - Cintron/Kata
3B - Hillenbrand/Tracy
LF - Gonzalez
CF - Terrero
RF - Batista

SP - Johnson, Webb, FA, Fossum, Daigle/Dessens/Gonzalez
RP - Villareal, Choate, Randolph, Koplove, FA, Valverde

That's a .500 team in the NL West. Terrero has been great since being called up. Hairston has been solid as a rookie as well. Only the SS spot is dicey. Hillenbrand and Batista have been .300 hitters this year and Gonzalez and Sexson are stars. Ever relief pitcher but Choate in the RP list is currently on the DL (thanks Brenly). When healthy, that's not a bad bullpen. Plus, the D-Backs could try and convince Finley to come back when he's an FA next season as well.

You let Johnson go, Sexson or Finley doesn't resign. There's little chance of getting a decent FA to come in here with no noteable names outside of Luis Gonzalez. If the DBacks trade Johnson, they will stink for the next 2-3 years atleast. If they keep him, they can have a .500 team in 2005 with a chance and use his money in 2006 to supplant the 2-3 holes (top starter, SS, maybe catcher) that would be vacant if Johnson retired.

I don't see how losing Sexson, Johnson, a chance at resigning Finley or any noteable FA and the prospect of multiple 90-100 loss seasons for the next few years is worth a few nice prospects.