OT - Poker: do you call?

[Fouts]

It was early in the tourney. Could you call all-in with pocket 4's?

*********** # 15 **************
PokerStars Game #650242471: Tournament #2433638, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2004/08/28 - 23:36:55 (ET)
Table '2433638 245' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: dbldwn888 (1570 in chips)
Seat 2: holdemfar (1460 in chips)
Seat 3: reaper_2 (1640 in chips)
Seat 4: Fouts (1150 in chips)
Seat 5: Keiluja (3050 in chips)
Seat 6: C-the-Jakal (220 in chips)
Seat 7: Sicko17 (1470 in chips)
Seat 8: phillyflyer (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: DawsonS64 (1470 in chips)
dbldwn888: posts small blind 10
holdemfar: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fouts [4c 4d]
reaper_2: folds
Fouts: calls 20
Keiluja: folds
C-the-Jakal: folds
Sicko17: raises 100 to 120
phillyflyer: raises 100 to 220
DawsonS64: folds
dbldwn888: folds
holdemfar: folds
Fouts: calls 200
Sicko17: raises 1250 to 1470 and is all-in
phillyflyer: calls 1250 and is all-in
Fouts: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 4h 3d]
*** TURN *** [Js 4h 3d] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [Js 4h 3d 4s] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sicko17: shows [Jd Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Fours)
phillyflyer: shows [Ks Ad] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
Sicko17 collected 3190 from pot

[Pumpy Tudors]

No.

[Vince]

I'd say definitely not.

[MJ4H]

No way you call an all-in early in a tournament with fours. Especially against two opponents.

[sabotai]

No way.

[larrymcg421]

Interesting hand. Sicko's all-in prevented you from drawing and the only call he got was from overcards, so that seems like a smart play. However, it seems pretty early in the tournament to go all-in with JJ. Definitely too early to call with AK. You made a better play than both of them. Don't worry what came after you folded.

[sabotai]

You only had about a 20% chance of winning before the flop. You made a smart fold.

[cthomer5000]

definitely not a call. I think the only time I ever call with 4's in a tournament is:

A. The hand will be heads-up
B. I have a significant chip advantage over the person I'm going into the hand with (have them covered by a bunch).

[cthomer5000]

also, with a hand like that you either want to raise and just steal the blinds, or limp and not play it unless you flop a set.

You generally know you're screwed when the flop comes and there isn't a 4 in there.

[Glengoyne]

I wouldn't even have called the initial raise and re-raise.

I also wouldn't have called him if I had the A-K.

I think you can fold that hand the next 100 times you see it before you regret it again.

[Fouts]

I agree, I was screwed when I called the 200 bet.

[Fouts]

Dola, like 3 guys kept raising every time anyone called. That was probably why I called the first bet, to finally see a flop.

[Lathum]

no

[cthomer5000]

I agree, I was screwed when I called the 200 bet.
When you say screwed do you mean "had to call the re-raise" or "made a bad decision?"

Even if you called the 200 (which you shouldn't have), don't make it worse by feeling the need to call the all-in.