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Draft Dodger
09-29-2004, 06:41 PM
I'm having a hard time getting the kicked figured out, and it keeps biting me in the ass, so I'd like to present a few hands similar to what I've gotten burned on and hopefully you can straighten me out.
one pair:
sample hand:
shared cards: 10-10-K-3-5
me: 6-7
him: J-8
crappy hands for both, just a pair. I had thought that there was only one kicker (the K in this case), so was expecting a tie there - both of us having a pair of 10's with a King kicker. but, it looks like I'm wrong, and he had the next best card after the king, so he won.
two pair & 3 of a kind:
in the rare chance me and someone else have the same 2 pair (or the same set), does the kicker come into play, or is it a tie?
finally, flushes (although I am cursed to NEVER get one) - if the highest card is the same for both hands, do you check for the next highest card? or is it just a tie?
SoxWin
09-29-2004, 06:46 PM
I was under the impression the kicker was the highest of your hole cards, but I'm not even a novice, let alone a pro. When me and my buddies have a poker night, that's the way we play it :)
all cards in a 5 card hand play.
in 2 pair hands, the the highest pair is the first tie break, the bottom pair is the second, and the 5th card of the hand is the third tie break.
in 3 of a kind hands, the rank of the three of a kind is the first tie break, the highest single card is next, and the 5th card of the 5 card hand breaks any remaining ties.
in flushes, if the highest card is the same, the second highest breaks the tie, all the way down to the 5th highest.
SoxWin
09-29-2004, 06:48 PM
Taken from (http://www.fact-index.com/k/ki/kicker__poker_.html)
Kickers take on special importance in Texas Hold'em, because a common winning hand is one pair of a card in a player's hand matched with a card on the board, while the player's second card acts as a kicker. For example, if one player holds A-Q, a second player holds A-10, and the board is A-J-8-5-3, the player with the Q kicker wins because A-A-Q-J-8 defeats A-A-J-10-8. If the board, however, were A-K-5-9-5, the players would tie, because both would play the hand A-A-5-5-K; in this case it is said that the players' kickers "don't play", or that the "kicker on the board plays".
some examples:
hand 1: KT
hand 2: KJ
Board K9942
both players have two pair, Kings and Nines. The full five card hand for each player is:
Hand 1: KK99T
Hand 2: KK99J
So hand 2 wins because of the 5th card (J beats T kicker)
A 3 of a kind hand:
Hand 1: 92
Hand 2: 97
Board: AKQ99
Now, this is a split pot, because both players' 5 card hands (remember you make the best possible 5 card hand out of the 7 available to you) are 999AK (the 7 nor the 2 play).
Flushes example:
Hand 1: 5h 8s
Hand 2: 4h 3h
Board: Ah Qh Th 8h 4s
Both players have a flush, but hand 1 has a higher flush (AQT85 vs AQT84)
If instead the board were Ah Kh Qh Th 7h the pot would be split, since both players use the board cards as their 5 card hands (hand 1's 5h is not as good as the 5th best board card, and hand 2's 4h has the same problem).
I hope this helps.
Draft Dodger
09-29-2004, 06:59 PM
that clears everything up - thanks guys...
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