View Full Version : Steve Spurrier Won't Be Coaching Florida
CraigSca
11-04-2004, 11:05 AM
I thought the best quote in the ESPN article was this: "When I departed three years ago, there were several reasons why I believed it was time to move on," Spurrier said in a statement released by the school. "Other than simply wanting to coach in the NFL someday, I also believed that 12 years at Florida was probably long enough. Many people in football believe that around 10-12 years in the same job is about the maximum time a coach should stay."
Do you think Penn State fans could make Joe Paterno aware of this?
rkmsuf
11-04-2004, 11:06 AM
who believes that 10-12 years is the number? he just made that up.
WSUCougar
11-04-2004, 11:10 AM
Let him have the FSU job if/when Bobby retires.
Noop reply in 3...2...1...
Let him have the FSU job if/when Bobby retires.
Noop reply in 3...2...1...
Couldn't be any worst then Bobby and Jeff Bowden. In fact if he gets hired somewhere else I would pay for him to take both Bowdens.
Ksyrup
11-04-2004, 01:35 PM
Here in town, that idea actually has some support (not that it would ever happen). Hey, the guy is a college offense genius. In fact, I think we'd get whiplash going from Jeff Bowden to him. We might need someone in between just to ensure we don't get the bends.
Ksyrup
11-04-2004, 01:36 PM
I can't imagine this happening:
Stoops, who spent three seasons as Spurrier's defensive coordinator at Florida, has repeatedly denied any interest in the Gators job. But a university source speaking on the condition of anonymity said Stoops might reconsider with Spurrier out of the picture.
Bomber
11-04-2004, 01:37 PM
I'd love to see him take the Florida job, imagine what he could do with Chris Leak, but the possibility for failure and the damage it would do to his rep isn't worth it.
rkmsuf
11-04-2004, 01:38 PM
He should take the Florida job. He'd have a better team than the one he's going to inherit in the Dolphins.
GrantDawg
11-04-2004, 02:40 PM
He will never return to a job where he has to recruit.
Ksyrup
11-04-2004, 03:01 PM
Well, according to the description of what he did in Washington, he didn't coach, either. What's left for a football coach to do?
GrantDawg
11-04-2004, 03:06 PM
Well, according to the description of what he did in Washington, he didn't coach, either. What's left for a football coach to do?
Play golf.
SunDancer
11-04-2004, 03:10 PM
Well, according to the description of what he did in Washington, he didn't coach, either. What's left for a football coach to do?
Golf?
Ksyrup
11-04-2004, 03:11 PM
I mean if he's going to take another job.
dawgfan
11-04-2004, 03:38 PM
I can't imagine this happening:
Stoops, who spent three seasons as Spurrier's defensive coordinator at Florida, has repeatedly denied any interest in the Gators job. But a university source speaking on the condition of anonymity said Stoops might reconsider with Spurrier out of the picture.
I'm trying to understand this as well - Stoops has returned Oklahoma to annual NC contention, and while Oklahoma isn't the idea recruiting location, he seems to be doing alright stealing guys out of Texas.
I suppose the appeal of Florida for him would be a better recruiting base and nicer weather. Other than that, seems like a lateral move.
duckman
11-04-2004, 05:44 PM
Stoops has already said publically at a news conference that he has no intentions of returning to Gainesville.
duckman
11-04-2004, 06:24 PM
Nor do I. :)
Liar! You love it there! ;)
I'm trying to understand this as well - Stoops has returned Oklahoma to annual NC contention, and while Oklahoma isn't the idea recruiting location, he seems to be doing alright stealing guys out of Texas.
I suppose the appeal of Florida for him would be a better recruiting base and nicer weather. Other than that, seems like a lateral move.
More like a few steps down...
1. Miami
2. Oklahoma
3. USC
4. LSU
5. UGA
6. Ohio State
7. Texas
8. Florida State (Bias I know)
9. Michigan
The Gators would be lucky to crack the top-25 of the elite programs out there in the country.
duckman
11-04-2004, 06:44 PM
More like a few steps down...
1. Miami
2. Oklahoma
3. USC
4. LSU
5. UGA
6. Ohio State
7. Texas
8. Florida State (Bias I know)
9. Michigan
The Gators would be lucky to crack the top-25 of the elite programs out there in the country.
Somebody's been hitting the crack pipe before making posts. *points to Noop*
Somebody's been hitting the crack pipe before making posts. *points to Noop*
How so? That list is not wrong maybe Florida State but the rest is correct...
duckman
11-04-2004, 06:49 PM
How so? That list is not wrong maybe Florida State but the rest is correct...
The problem at Florida is not the talent, but with the coaching staff. If you think that Florida is that big of a drop then you've been hitting the crack pipe before replying.
The problem at Florida is not the talent, but with the coaching staff. If you think that Florida is that big of a drop then you've been hitting the crack pipe before replying.
Haha your wrong. They have no talent at all... Next season they will not have depth on defense. They have recruit offense pretty well due to Chris Leak... so unless a coach wants to play in a shoot out every game Florida I repeat does not have depth.
Dr. Sak
11-04-2004, 07:00 PM
On ESPN Radio, the Duke who does sportscenter for the Dan Patrick show said there was speculation that Spurrier was persuing the Penn State job.
duckman
11-04-2004, 07:00 PM
Haha your wrong. They have no talent at all... Next season they will not have depth on defense. They have recruit offense pretty well due to Chris Leak... so unless a coach wants to play in a shoot out every game Florida I repeat does not have depth.
Heh. They said almost the same thing when Stoops came to Oklahoma in 1998. Two years later, OU won the national title. Who would of thunk?
Heh. They said almost the same thing when Stoops came to Oklahoma in 1998. Two years later, OU won the national title. Who would of thunk?
Has nothing to do with OU at all. Florida is not as good as some people think ask any Gator fan and they will say this year they really need to recruit top notch defensive players. Almost player they thought was good on defense is a bust...
On ESPN Radio, the Duke who does sportscenter for the Dan Patrick show said there was speculation that Spurrier was persuing the Penn State job.
I seriously doubt that happens.
Has nothing to do with OU at all. Florida is not as good as some people think ask any Gator fan and they will say this year they really need to recruit top notch defensive players. Almost player they thought was good on defense is a bust...
I'd chalk a lot of it up to coaching.
duckman
11-04-2004, 07:05 PM
I'd chalk a lot of it up to coaching.
That's what I think, too.
I'd chalk a lot of it up to coaching.
Haha okay.
Nice to see the OU gangbang out in full-force I missed you guys :D
duckman
11-04-2004, 07:06 PM
Haha okay.
Kids say the darndest things.
SunDancer
11-04-2004, 07:06 PM
Didn't OU hit the Junior College ranks for alot of the talent that helped them get to 2000 title game?
duckman
11-04-2004, 07:07 PM
Nice to see the OU gangbang out in full-force I missed you guys :D
All I got say about Miami is North Carolina.
North Carolina, baby.
Haha okay.
So you're telling me that Zook was a good coach? Because we both know UF and FSU go after the same recruits, so obviously neither team can recruit.
duckman
11-04-2004, 07:09 PM
Didn't OU hit the Junior College ranks for alot of the talent that helped them get to 2000 title game?
I think only two JC players were impacts on that team (Heupel was one of them). The rest were players recruited by the previous coaching staff.
Didn't OU hit the Junior College ranks for alot of the talent that helped them get to 2000 title game?
Torrance Marshall and Josh Heupel were the only two JUCOs I believe.
duckman
11-04-2004, 07:10 PM
So you're telling me that Zook was a good coach? Because we both know UF and FSU go after the same recruits, so obviously neither team can recruit.
North Carolina, vexroid. North Carolina.....
So you're telling me that Zook was a good coach? Because we both know UF and FSU go after the same recruits, so obviously neither team can recruit.
Tell me this how is it that their offense well developed but their defense not? Half coaching I guess... Florida State sucks at developing talent and has seen plenty bust run thru the program. Miami in my opinion is the best talent scouts in Florida and one of the best in the nation.
North Carolina, vexroid. North Carolina.....
Hey, I'm not mouthing anyone for losing a game they should have won. At least not yet.
North Carolina, vexroid. North Carolina.....
Haha make sure your not throwing stones from a glasshouse.
duckman
11-04-2004, 07:14 PM
Haha make sure your not throwing stones from a glasshouse.
8-0, Noop. 8 AND 0!
Tell me this how is it that their offense well developed but their defense not? Half coaching I guess... Florida State sucks at developing talent and has seen plenty bust run thru the program. Miami in my opinion is the best talent scouts in Florida and one of the best in the nation.
Best answer I can give you if bad defensive coaches, and recruiting the wrong players for the system. Busts happen. It's underdevelopment that can be corrected. You can't always make the player learn (Busts), and the players can't teach themselves(Underdevelopment).
8-0, Noop. 8 AND 0!
We haven't won a single thing yet though.
duckman
11-04-2004, 07:16 PM
We haven't won a single thing yet though.
Actually, I'm scared to death of A&M. Just don't tell Noop that! ;)
Actually, I'm scared to death of A&M. Just don't tell Noop that! ;)
I have a really bad feeling about this one. It would seem A&M decided not to practice for Baylor, instead focusing on the OU game.
Sharpieman
11-04-2004, 07:19 PM
Who cares about these broke ass teams, we got 2 Pac-10 teams in the top 5 of the BCS standings.
Who cares about these broke ass teams, we got 2 Pac-10 teams in the top 5 of the BCS standings.
Now your team(s), just wait.
8-0, Noop. 8 AND 0!
You earned it.
Hey OU fans....
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showthread.php?t=15603&page=1&pp=50
http://www.geocities.com/f_s_u_sucks/
DeToxRox
11-04-2004, 08:00 PM
all i can say is go GOPHERS!
Wisconsin needs to drop one as the Maize and Blue win out.
Can I get an amen? Just.. maybe?
http://www.geocities.com/f_s_u_sucks/
How I love being right. Kinda of funny huh?
scooper
11-05-2004, 07:23 AM
And I really thought this topic could lead to some good impartial college football discussion but the usual pissing match flared up. That's the thing with CFB, I love to watch it, read about it and discuss it, but there are so many emotions involved, it's hard for most to objectively look at it or discuss it.
Noop, on the Florida issue, you have to be careful about confusing current state of a program/current talent with the lure of a job. It's all about potential. Your evaluation of the current roster may be solid, but it's about potential. Florida is still a big name in one of the three best recruiting hotbeds in the nation. They have good facilities, a lot of money, a rabid fan base, the top conference and a history of success. Seriously, on what basis did Zook land Leak and the class he brought in that year? If they get the right coach, they should be right back up there fairly quickly. It's a great situation for a good coach to be in, especially now that he'll be compared to Zook, not Spurrier.
It's really not that big of a difference from the situation when Stoops went to Oklahoma. In fact, I think it may be better. When Oklahoma was down, they were really down for a longer period than Florida has been.
That said, I really don't see why Stoops would ever leave Oklahoma at this point. But if Florida is smarter than they were last time, they should have no trouble luring a good young coach that could become their own Bob Stoops.
Ksyrup
11-05-2004, 07:52 AM
The consensus appears to be that one of the few things Zook did well was recruit. I don't know why they suck now, but it appears that they have some talent. This just underscores the problems they have with coaching/development of their players.
GrantDawg
11-05-2004, 12:13 PM
They do have a lack of talent on defense, and it is not all coaching. Charlie Strong is one of the best DC in college football, and he has been totally unable to turn that unit around.
The Gators have offensive talent because of Chris Leak... he has been the main recruiting ploy for Zook. On defense they cant recruit in the state because Florida State and Miami(mainly them) clean up on the top defensive talent. Now every now and then you have a die hard Gator fan who goes to Hogtown. But whatever believe what you chose to believe.
scooper
11-05-2004, 01:08 PM
This is more work than I'm willing to do today, but I bet if we took the starting defenses of each team in the ACC, SEC and Big 10, half of them would have at least one starter from the state of Florida. Many of whom would be considered top talent. Noop, you know as well as anybody that the state of Florida is too deep talent wise for FSU and Miami to clean it out. There is plenty left for UF to fill out a pretty good defense. There was a time when all three programs were stocked. So I wouldn't say it can't be done.
Ksyrup
11-06-2004, 07:17 AM
From what I've read, Spurrier really did want to come back, but there were 3 sticking points:
1. He wanted to be paid one dollar more than Sabean (whose contract calls for HIM to be paid one dollar more than the highest paid coach). Maybe he figured they both would get paid infinity + 1...?
2. He wanted permission to skip post-game press conferences, win or lose.
3. Foley insisted that he commit to sticking around for at least 5 years after Bobby Bowden retired.
Apparently #3 was the biggest sticking point.
Oh, and a funny fact about Zook and his run-in with that fraternity. Ben Hill Griffin - the guy who threw so much money at the school that they named the football stadium after him - is a member of that frat from way, way back. No wonder Zook didn't last.
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