This Is Taking The Election Way Too Seriously

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Man Kills Self at Ground Zero

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http://www.foxnews.com/images/service_ap_36.gif NEW YORK — A 25-year-old university worker from Georgia shot and killed himself at ground zero (search (http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=ground%20zero)) Saturday morning, authorities said.

The man, Andrew Veal (search (http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=Andrew%20Veal)), of Athens, Ga., was found atop the structure housing the 1 and 9 subway lines after a hotel worker spotted what he believed was somebody sleeping inside the site around 8 a.m., said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A shotgun was found near the body, Coleman said. No suicide note was found, he said.

Veal apparently was distraught over President Bush's (search (http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=President%20Bush)) re-election, Newsday reported Saturday on its Web site edition, citing an unnamed police source. The newspaper also said the man was a registered Democrat who opposed the war in Iraq.

Coleman said he could not confirm Newsday's account.

Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center (search (http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=World%20Trade%20Center)) site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.

Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry, friends said Saturday.


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There is no reason to take your distaste of President Bush this far. An absolute waste. :(

[Suicane75]

Eh, if he's that nuts, maybe its for the best.

[Ben E Lou]

Some of the quotes in stories about this are beyond disturbing:

Frank Franca, an East Village artist and registered Democrat, suggested the suicide was symbolic.

"I'm very moved by it," he said. "Obviously, this person was devastated. I can see why he would come here."

Franca's friend, Jeffim Kuznetsov, a 25-year-old student from Russia who lives in Atlanta, said the suicide is evidence of how deeply many Americans were affected by Kerry's defeat.

"It's a national tragedy," he said. "This election is devastating to all who believe in democracy."

Another visitor to Ground Zero, Arushi Raval, 34, a businesswoman who lives in Chelsea, said Veal might have been active in campaigning for Kerry, only to taste defeat.

"Maybe he felt ineffective," she said of the victim. "You feel ineffective if you tried and it all failed.

"I know so many New Yorkers who are depressed over this." <!-- quigo ad --> <!-- end quigo ad -->
"And if this was something he had to do, it was heroic that he chose the World Trade Center."
Wow. This is really sad.

[Jon]

I agree, that is taking it a bit far. What scares me is that we see how unsecure the WTC area is.

[Galaril]

I agree, that is taking it a bit far. What scares me is that we see how unsecure the WTC area is.

Not to sound insensitive since I feel the WTC ground should be treated as a sort of national memorial area or a monument should go there but what is there right now to secure out there?

[Dutch]

Those are some disturbing viewpoints the journalists came up with.

I'm afraid that even though Bush has extended the olive branch and democrats have accepted, the media will do everything in it's power to keep this very lucrative divisiveness alive and well.

[Jon]

Not to sound insensitive since I feel the WTC ground should be treated as a sort of national memorial area or a monument should go there but what is there right now to secure out there?

First of all, you're not being insensitive. The PATH, which is a rail line, goes right underneath, so hundreds of thousands of people travel by ground zero every day (including myself and my girlfriend, which is why my 1st thought was how unsafe).

Second, there is a fence around the area, but I think (as we saw with this incident) it may not be enough. THey have Port Authority police every where some of the time, particularly when big events are occurring. Unfortunately, they don't seem to be concerned about safety too much, at least in my experiences.

Too make a short answer even longer, they have some things, but not enough, IMO, if they are concerned it's a target. BUt, that's the story of NY now.

[Jon]

Those are some disturbing viewpoints the journalists came up with.

I'm afraid that even though Bush has extended the olive branch and democrats have accepted, the media will do everything in it's power to keep this very lucrative divisiveness alive and well.

I think the divisiveness will come back as soon as anything of substance is attempted. Just b/c GWB was reelected, doesn't mean the Dems should roll over and agree with everything he has done. That's not what an election victory is, and I would not want the Republicans to roll over had Kerry won. Bipartisanship only seems to exist when things are ceremonial.

[Noop]

Sad. As much as I dislike Bush I wouldn't kill myself... this speaks volumes for how much this election effected people.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

I can't believe these people. Come on you lost , get over it, wait 4 years.

[Dutch]

I think the divisiveness will come back as soon as anything of substance is attempted. Just b/c GWB was reelected, doesn't mean the Dems should roll over and agree with everything he has done. That's not what an election victory is, and I would not want the Republicans to roll over had Kerry won. Bipartisanship only seems to exist when things are ceremonial.

I agree, nobody should roll over. Both sides need to work together but with a Republican slant. And the newspapers and network media should give our government a chance before it goes straight for the jugular and holds on for the duration like they did in 2000.

[Jon]

I agree, nobody should roll over. Both sides need to work together but with a Republican slant. And the newspapers and network media should give our government a chance before it goes straight for the jugular and holds on for the duration like they did in 2000.

The Republicans should work for a Republican slant. But not the Democrats. Whoever voted for the Democrats didn't vote for somebody to slant toward the other party. They voted for the Democrats. On some things the Democrats should work in a bipartisan way, and on others they shouldn't. It should be case by case.

[JonInMiddleGA]

It should be case by case.

And in those cases where "bi-partisanship" isn't an option, I dearly hope the elected Republicans remember that there's only one way to negotiate:
With your knee in their chest and your knife at their throat.

[EagleFan]

It's sad that there are idiots out there like that man. Oh well, Darwinism at work. Maybe a few more morons will do the same and we can thin out the idiot heards that are out there. (this statement is in no way aimed at a political viewpoint but at the fact that anyone would take an election result in this country to that extent)

[Dutch]

The Republicans should work for a Republican slant. But not the Democrats. Whoever voted for the Democrats didn't vote for somebody to slant toward the other party. They voted for the Democrats. On some things the Democrats should work in a bipartisan way, and on others they shouldn't. It should be case by case.

When the President is involved, you have to use a Republican Slant, it's what the voters want.

[Sharpieman]

Those are some disturbing viewpoints the journalists came up with.

I'm afraid that even though Bush has extended the olive branch and democrats have accepted, the media will do everything in it's power to keep this very lucrative divisiveness alive and well.
Talk is cheap.

[Jon]

When the President is involved, you have to use a Republican Slant, it's what the voters want.

One shouldn't assume that a person who voted for Bush agreed with every part of his agenda, just as one shouldn't assume that a person who voted for Kerry agrees with all of his agenda. It should be a case by case basis, depending upon the issue.

[Dutch]

I don't think you get it. The executive branch is lead by a Republican President. When Clinton was President, he lead with a Democrat slant. Same thing. The winner of the Presidency does get that benefit.

[cthomer5000]

I agree, that is taking it a bit far. What scares me is that we see how unsecure the WTC area is.hop on the path train and tell me what you think needs to be secured? It's a hole in the ground man. And it is incredibly easy to just jump down 3 feet onto the train tracks and walk 100 yards into that hole. Not much you can do about that.

edit: looks like you pretty much addressed this in a later post. BTW, you can't beat the 7 minute ride from grove street to the WTC. I'll probably be moving to JC soon just to cut my commute from 2 hours to 35 minutes.

[Franklinnoble]

Obviously, this poor man wanted to leave the country, but couldn't.

The answer? As always:

Blame Canada.