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Huckleberry

12-05-2004, 12:41 PM

With AP, Coaches', Sagarin, and Colley accounted for:

<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=188 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>Rank

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Team

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>BCS

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>1

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Southern Cal

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.9770

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>2

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Oklahoma

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.9681

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>3

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Auburn

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.9331

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>4

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Texas

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.8476

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>5

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>California

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.8347

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>6

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Utah

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.8181

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>7

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Georgia

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.7033

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>8

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Boise St.

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.6564

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>9

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Virginia Tech

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.6479

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>10

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Louisville

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.6457

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>11

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>LSU

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.6076

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>12

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Iowa

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.5519

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>13

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Miami (FL)

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.5105

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>14

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Michigan

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.5091

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>15

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Tennessee

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.4124

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>16

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Florida St.

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.3533

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>17

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Wisconsin

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.3472

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>18

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Virginia

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.2983

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>19

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Arizona St.

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.2567

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>20

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Texas A&M

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.2192

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>21

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Pittsburgh

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.1546

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>22

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Texas Tech

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.1489

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>23

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Florida

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.1375

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>24

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Oklahoma St.

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0943

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>25

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Ohio St.

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0914

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>26

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>West Virginia

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0586

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>27

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Boston College

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0476

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>28

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Oregon St.

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0333

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>29

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Toledo

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0220

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>30

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>North Carolina

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0200

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>31

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Colorado

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0171

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>32

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Purdue

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0162

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>33

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Fresno St.

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0152

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>34

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Memphis

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0119

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>35

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Navy

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0119

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>36

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Northern Illinois

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0067

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>37

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>UTEP

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0049

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>38

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Bowling Green

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0039

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>39

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Syracuse

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0012

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>40

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Miami (OH)

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0011

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>41

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>New Mexico

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0006

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>42

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Alabama

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0002

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>43

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>Iowa St.

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0002

</TD></TR><TR><TD width="21%" height=16>44

</TD><TD width="54%" height=16>North Texas

</TD><TD width="26%" height=16>0.0002

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Even if every remaining computer bumps Cal up a spot, Texas still holds on the #4 spot.

Passacaglia

12-05-2004, 12:57 PM

Does that matter? Won't the Rose take Cal anyway?

Huckleberry

12-05-2004, 01:00 PM

No, they are not allowed under the BCS contract to do that. I guess they could, but that would start a heck of a firestorm. The Fiesta would probably then snub Utah for Texas.

Anyway, Utah is guaranteed one of the two at-large bids as a Top 6 Non-BCS Conference team. Texas then becomes guaranteed the other at-large bid as a #4 BCS Conference team (as there are no at-large teams in the Top 3).

Passacaglia

12-05-2004, 01:02 PM

Ah, I didn't know that being the #4 team guaranteed them a spot.

Cuckoo

12-05-2004, 01:08 PM

I was just looking at the Coaches Poll, and someone obviously ranked all three USC, OU, and Auburn number one because they each have 1/3 extra of a first place vote. Stupid if you ask me.

Cuckoo

12-05-2004, 01:11 PM

Ah, I didn't know that being the #4 team guaranteed them a spot.

I think the rule is that if a team is ranked 3 or 4 and is not a conference champion, they're guaranteed a BCS bid. Since both Cal or Texas would fit that criteria if they were ranked fourth, Cal really needed to beat Southern Miss comfortably to maintain their edge in the polls that was keeping them fourth in the BCS. I don't think that's going to happen.

Meanwhile, the Rose Bowl is going to HATE this.

cthomer5000

12-05-2004, 01:17 PM

yeah, the rose bowl is stuck without a Pac-10 team now, right?

Michigan-Texas?

Huckleberry

12-05-2004, 01:20 PM

F the Rose Bowl.

Texas-Michigan is a game I've wanted forever. I hope they don't pick Utah to spite us and get a more western team.

Texas and Michigan have never played.

Passacaglia

12-05-2004, 01:26 PM

Wow. So what if 3 and 4 were non-conference champions, and 5 and 6 were non-BCS conference champions? 4 guaranteed 'at-large' bids.

Suicane75

12-05-2004, 01:27 PM

I have no idea how all this works but I'd love to see a Cal-Auburn game. Any chance of that happening?

DeToxRox

12-05-2004, 01:29 PM

Michigan vs Texas is gonna be awesome. Say what you will about Michigan to end the year, this is gunna be a helluva game between two of the best schools ever.

Well, if it happens.

VPI97

12-05-2004, 01:30 PM

I have no idea how all this works but I'd love to see a Cal-Auburn game. Any chance of that happening?Nope. Auburn - VT in the Sugar

Suicane75

12-05-2004, 01:32 PM

Nope. Auburn - VT in the Sugar

Well then color me uninterested. What the fuck is the point of this whole thing if you don't have the top teams playing each other? Shouldnt 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 play each other?

EDIT- Nevermind, i think I get it now, Cal is not a conference champ.

2ND EDIT- This whole thing sucks ass.

DeToxRox

12-05-2004, 01:33 PM

I don't think Auburn/Va Tech is that bad of a game.

It'll be old school football. Two great defenses just hammering each other.

Huckleberry

12-05-2004, 01:33 PM

No, the Top 6 non-BCS teams rule trumps the Top 4 BCS conference team rule.

1. #1 and #2 play for it all.
2. Each BCS conference champ gets in unless #1 and #2 are both at-large teams from the same BCS conference.
3. If at-large spots reamin, Top 6 non-BCS conference team gets in. First #5, then #6. If any teams meet this standard, then Notre Dame also qualifies with 9 wins or a Top 12 BCS ranking.
4. If at-large spots remain, Top 4 BCS conference non-champ gets in. First #3, then #4.
5. If there still aren't 2 guaranteed at-large teams, then the Bowls can select from all eligible at-large teams (the Top 12 in the BCS rankings).

Suicane75

12-05-2004, 01:34 PM

I don't think Auburn/Va Tech is that bad of a game.

It'll be old school football. Two great defenses just hammering each other.

I suppose, i just don't think VT is as good a team as Cal, just wishful thinking on my part cause thats the only game i really wanted to see, or Auburn vs Utah.

Suicane75

12-05-2004, 01:36 PM

sovereignstar

12-05-2004, 01:44 PM

2. Each BCS conference champ gets in unless #1 and #2 are both at-large teams from the same BCS conference.

What the hell does this mean?

:confused:

GrantDawg

12-05-2004, 01:45 PM

2ND EDIT- This whole thing sucks ass.
I vote that should be the new intials of the B(c)S.

TWTSA.

digamma

12-05-2004, 01:50 PM

What the hell does this mean?

:confused:
If Colorado would have beaten Oklahoma, but Oklahoma and Texas would have been #'s 1 and 2 in the BCS, OU and Texas would have played in the national championship game and Colorado would not have gone to a BCS bowl. The chances of this happening are remote, but there were scenarios yesterday that could have led to this exact result.

A conference can have no more than 2 teams in the BCS is basically what the rule means.

JonInMiddleGA

12-05-2004, 01:52 PM

Ive read this 3 teams and still dont have a fucking clue.
Lemme take a stab at it

1. #1 and #2 play for it all.
This rule trumps everything else

2. Each BCS conference champ gets in unless #1 and #2 are both at-large teams from the same BCS conference.
[b]Every BCS conference champ gets in unless #1 & #2 are both non-conference champs from the same conference BUT didn't win that conference. i.e., if Tennessee wins the SEC title game, but Auburn & Alabama are ranked #1 & #2 in the overall BCS, then UT does not get an automatic BSC-conference-champ bid[b]

Now, I don't know how to come up with a scenario where this is possible -- both teams from the same BCS conference are #1 & #2 overall, but one of them didn't make the conference championship game (and therefore could not win the conference champ auto-bid), but that's what this stipulation seems to be covering.

digamma

12-05-2004, 01:56 PM

Now, I don't know how to come up with a scenario where this is possible -- both teams from the same BCS conference are #1 & #2 overall, but one of them didn't make the conference championship game (and therefore could not win the conference champ auto-bid), but that's what this stipulation seems to be covering.
Expanding on my post from one above...If all three undefeateds would have lost yesterday, the national championship game may well have been OU vs. Texas. Cal would likely have moved up to #1 in the polls, but they wouldn't have moved past #6 in the computers, which sinks them out of the national title game. The computers likely would have had OU 1 and Texas 2, so depending on how the polls would have turned out, that could have been the national title game. But, you're exactly right that that is what the rule aims to cover.