Ocean's Twelve

[korme]

I'm going to go ahead and make this thread now to save time for tomorrow.. I'm pumped.

[FBPro]

Can't wait, will be seeing it in the afternoon tomorrow.

[Buccaneer]

My wife keeps asking me if I'm going to the theatre to see this. Considering that I've only been to 3 movies in the past 5 years, I might consider this knowing that Ocean's 11 is definitely in my top 10 all-time.

[Crapshoot]

Id love to go- damn work. Ocean's 11 is one of those movies I can watch again and again- every time I see it on HBO, I stop surfing and watch it...

[Coffee Warlord]

As much as I loved Ocean's 11, I just have this sinking feeling 12 is gonna suck donkey balls.

Awaiting the FOFC Review (tm)

[DaddyTorgo]

So am I one of the only few people in the world who never saw Ocean's 11, and really have no interest in seeing it or Ocean's 12? Not trying to start anything or bash it or anything, just genuinely curious.

[Buccaneer]

So am I one of the only few people in the world who never saw Ocean's 11, and really have no interest in seeing it or Ocean's 12? Not trying to start anything or bash it or anything, just genuinely curious.
I can relate, I'm the only person never to have seen any of the LotR or Star Wars prequels or any of the superhero movies.

[DaddyTorgo]

I can relate, I'm the only person never to have seen any of the LotR or Star Wars prequels or any of the superhero movies.
Superhero movies I can understand. Star Wars prequels I can understand. But never having seen any LotR movies?!?!?! Do you realize what you're denying yourself?? Apart from the majesty of the story (tell me you've at least read the book) they are filmmaking spectacles. Amazing filmmaking spectacles! Remedy this!

[TLK]

I can't wait to see this..... Hopefully sometime this weekend....

[CAsterling]

I can relate, I'm the only person never to have seen any of the LotR or Star Wars prequels or any of the superhero movies.

I can almost relate, unforunately I have seen the star wars prequels to my eternal dismay.

Superhero movies I can understand. Star Wars prequels I can understand. But never having seen any LotR movies?!?!?! Do you realize what you're denying yourself?? Apart from the majesty of the story (tell me you've at least read the book) they are filmmaking spectacles. Amazing filmmaking spectacles! Remedy this!

I watched 20 mins of the 1st lotr movie on a trans-atlantic flight, it didn't live up to the book, and bored me rigid.....they may be great filmaking spectacles, but I wasn't entertained (entertain or inform is I believe is what a film shoud do).

Now Ocean's 11 did entertain and I will probably see 12.

[Desnudo]

So am I one of the only few people in the world who never saw Ocean's 11, and really have no interest in seeing it or Ocean's 12? Not trying to start anything or bash it or anything, just genuinely curious.

I never went out of my way to see it, but I remember renting on hotel ppv on a business trip. For me, it was entertaining to watch.

[Celeval]

CNN - who usually don't have any problems ripping a movie to shreds if it deserves it - calls it "best ensemble film of the year".

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/09/review.oceans/index.html

[Simms]

...I'm the only person never to have seen any of the LotR or Star Wars prequels or any of the superhero movies.
No you're not. :)

[sterlingice]

As much as I loved Ocean's 11, I just have this sinking feeling 12 is gonna suck donkey balls.

Awaiting the FOFC Review (tm)
Same here. Hopefully I'm proven wrong but the commercials (which you can tell a lot from a movie about but not all) just look like it was kindof thrown together because they all wanted a movie they could slack off in and pick up a paycheck (Ocean's 11 II: The Search for More Money).

SI

[flere-imsaho]

I'm waiting for the Onion's review. :)

[Logan]

I never went out of my way to see it, but I remember renting on hotel ppv on a business trip. For me, it was entertaining to watch.

You sure it wasn't called "Ocean's 11-incher" ?

[Fritz]

I can relate, I'm the only person never to have seen any of the LotR or Star Wars prequels or any of the superhero movies.

well, i haven' seen any of the LotR movies either, nor have I seen episode 2 or 3.

[Coffee Warlord]

Bump, wondering if anyone has caught it yet.

[Draft Dodger]

Entertainment Weekly trashed it - D something (D+ or D-). Haven't read the review...just peeked at the score.

oh, and Fritz honey? Episode 3 isn't out yet. Don't be so hard on yourself.

[lynchjm24]

I can relate, I'm the only person never to have seen any of the LotR or Star Wars prequels or any of the superhero movies.

No you aren't.

[Radii]

I will definitely see it, but do not care whehter I see it in the theater or when it comes out on DVD. I loved the first one, but am not a big theahter goer.

[korme]

Saw it. Obviously, it wasn't as good as the first, it was still good.

I felt it missed some comedic timing that was brilliant in the first one.

I recommend.

[FBPro]

Saw it. Obviously, it wasn't as good as the first, it was still good.

I felt it missed some comedic timing that was brilliant in the first one.

I recommend.

Agreed, didn't meet the standard of #1 but few sequels do. Had a few interesting twists and turns in it however, more than I first thought. One of those flicks that I'll catch more of the twists, etc when I watch it again.

[duckman]

I've never been a Clooney fan, so I won't be seeing this movie.

[GrantDawg]

I've never been a Clooney fan, so I won't be seeing this movie.That's sad, because Ocean's 11 and Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? has got to be two of the top ten movies made in the last 10 years.

[Buccaneer]

I'm not a fan of any actors, I like the movies that I do solely because they are fun to watch over and over. Ocean's 11 is one of those few movies that I have seen 10+ times (on DVD) and that's saying a lot because I only watch movies a few times a month.

[duckman]

That's sad, because Ocean's 11 and Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? has got to be two of the top ten movies made in the last 10 years.
I admit that I've seen Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? thanks to my brother.He was sick and he wanted to see it so I rented it for him.I enjoyed the way the story was done, but Clooney is not a very good actor in my opinion.

[stevew]

That's sad, because Ocean's 11 and Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? has got to be two of the top ten movies made in the last 10 years.

Oh, cmon now, thats overrating O11 significantly. It might be in the top 50. But its nowhere near the top 10.
And Oh Brother is like the Coens 3rd or 4th best film in the last 10 years.

[Buccaneer]

It appears there may be a difference of opinion.

[GrantDawg]

Oh, cmon now, thats overrating O11 significantly. It might be in the top 50. But its nowhere near the top 10.
And Oh Brother is like the Coens 3rd or 4th best film in the last 10 years.O think you significantly over-rate the movies made in the last ten years, and Oh Brother in first just slightly ahead of Fargo for Coen brother's movie made in the last ten years.

[CamEdwards]

i have yet to see Oceans 11, Fight Club, or any of the LOTR movies. Yet somehow I'm still able to sleep tonight. :)

[GrantDawg]

i have yet to see Oceans 11, Fight Club, or any of the LOTR movies. Yet somehow I'm still able to sleep tonight. :)
I didn't see Fight Club until last year. It ended up being another one of those movies that was decent but not worthy of the worship some give it.

[FBPro]

I didn't see Fight Club until last year. It ended up being another one of those movies that was decent but not worthy of the worship some give it.

Agreed

[Buccaneer]

I didn't see Fight Club until last year. It ended up being another one of those movies that was decent but not worthy of the worship some give it.I say that about any indie movies or movies like Office Space, but that's just me.

[Marmel]

I didn't see Fight Club until last year. It ended up being another one of those movies that was decent but not worthy of the worship some give it.


:(

FOFC had a fight club once.

[Chief Rum]

Anyone else sick of the "popularity-hate" in this thread?

You know, the "look at me, I'm cool because I didn't do what the herd did" statements? Yeah, you guys are all such wonderfully hip contrarians. :rolleyes:

I think I have seen every movie mentioned in this thread, I have liked or even loved every movie in this thread (except O12, haven't seen it yet), I consider my life at least minimally richer for having enjoyed the experience at one time or another, I don't think I am cool based on whether I have seen these movies or not or whether anyone knows it on an Internet message board, I don't give a fig's shit to know if anyone here has seen or not seen these movies, and, yes, with all these facts in place, I can still sleep at night, in fact without even thinking about this.

Loved O11, and I would say it might be on my own personal list of the top ten movies I enjoyed in the last decade. That said, I don't expect O12 to be great, just competent and enjoyable (I hope).

CR

[Desnudo]

I didn't know figs shit.

[Buccaneer]

Hey Matt, if you don't give a higo's shit about anyone else's likes or dislikes, why did you even bother to talk about movies that you liked or disliked? I think you are VERY COOL that you know that fig's shit.

[Chief Rum]

Hey Matt, if you don't give a higo's shit about anyone else's likes or dislikes, why did you even bother to talk about movies that you liked or disliked? I think you are VERY COOL that you know that fig's shit.

Just pointing out that those people in this thread who think they are cool because they didn't follow like sheep with the rest of the crowd have a grossly inflated image of themselves. I said I liked those movies because, well, duh, everyone else (the sheep) generally did, too, apparently, considering most of those are some of the top grossing movies of all time. Basically, saying I am an unabashed sheep in that way, and I don't think I am cool or not cool based on my viewing preferences, and I think it's the ultimate dork move to pull the contrarian-to-society move that I see so often around here. It's like, look at me, I'm not like you, I'm so wonderful because of that! :rolleyes:

BTW, I don't know that a higo even exists. I do know what a fig is, at least.

CR

[Buccaneer]

Come on Chief, you get so serious sometimes. :) By the way, go in the Mexican Food aisle sometime and you'll see what higos are. That makes very cool and very un-sheeplike to know that, doesn't it.

[Chief Rum]

Come on Chief, you get so serious sometimes. :) By the way, go in the Mexican Food aisle sometime and you'll see what higos are. That makes very cool and very un-sheeplike to know that, doesn't it.


No, it just means you like Mexican food more than I do. :)

I'll have to check out higos. Is it a spice?

Heh heh sorry if I get so serious. People being contrarian to gain points on an Internet board just strikes me as so pointless that it elevates itself to a pet peeve. :)

I am happy to see you like O11 so much, as I think it has some of the best dialogue and comedic timing I have seen from a mainstream movie. I catch it whenever I see it on, if I can.

CR

[Swaggs]

Just saw it.

I thought it was a fun movie and it looked like they enjoyed making it. It was not made as tightly as Ocean's 11 and, without giving up much, I felt a little cheated with it. I thought Matt Damon was pretty funny throughout and stood out. Clooney played it a little too cool...almost like he phoned it in. All and all, definitely worth seeing, and I'll probably want to see it again.

[DaddyTorgo]

That's sad, because Ocean's 11 and Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? has got to be two of the top ten movies made in the last 10 years.

Ewww. Not to rancidly disagree, but...I have zero desire to ever see either of those. Despite people popping continuous boners over "Oh Brother."

[GrantDawg]

Ewww. Not to rancidly disagree, but...I have zero desire to ever see either of those. Despite people popping continuous boners over "Oh Brother."
You've never seen them, but you disagree? Interesting. Sort of like saying, "I don't like higo's, though I've never ate one."

[CamEdwards]

Anyone else sick of the "popularity-hate" in this thread?

You know, the "look at me, I'm cool because I didn't do what the herd did" statements? Yeah, you guys are all such wonderfully hip contrarians. :rolleyes:

I think I have seen every movie mentioned in this thread, I have liked or even loved every movie in this thread (except O12, haven't seen it yet), I consider my life at least minimally richer for having enjoyed the experience at one time or another, I don't think I am cool based on whether I have seen these movies or not or whether anyone knows it on an Internet message board, I don't give a fig's shit to know if anyone here has seen or not seen these movies, and, yes, with all these facts in place, I can still sleep at night, in fact without even thinking about this.

Loved O11, and I would say it might be on my own personal list of the top ten movies I enjoyed in the last decade. That said, I don't expect O12 to be great, just competent and enjoyable (I hope).

CR

Um, I don't consider myself to be particularly cool to begin with, so I certainly wasn't trying to be "contrarian hip". Hell, I just watched "Dodgeball" and really enjoyed it. I was just making a generic smartass comment. Sorry if it could be construed otherwise.

[DaddyTorgo]

true. i guess i can't disagree without seeing them. But then again it is just one person's opinion. I'm just saying that I would think that if we're talking about "the top 10 movies of the last 10 years" or whatever, there'd be a fairly broad-based consensus, and I would think as a cinephile I would have seen most of the candidates...

[Chief Rum]

Um, I don't consider myself to be particularly cool to begin with, so I certainly wasn't trying to be "contrarian hip". Hell, I just watched "Dodgeball" and really enjoyed it. I was just making a generic smartass comment. Sorry if it could be construed otherwise.

Well, my comments are for those who actually are being contrarian for the sake of it. It's meant for them. So if you're not truly being that way, it's not targeted at you. :)

CR

[stevew]

O think you significantly over-rate the movies made in the last ten years, and Oh Brother in first just slightly ahead of Fargo for Coen brother's movie made in the last ten years.

I probably significantly dislike Clooney, and maybe that skews my opinions on his movies, but I enjoyed Fargo, The Big Lebowski and The Man who Wasnt There a helluva lot more than i liked Oh Brother.

[GrantDawg]

I probably significantly dislike Clooney, and maybe that skews my opinions on his movies, but I enjoyed Fargo, The Big Lebowski and The Man who Wasnt There a helluva lot more than i liked Oh Brother.
I hated the Big Lebowski and TMWWT was ok, at best.

[GrantDawg]

dola:

Actually, The Ladykillers were better than Lebowski and TMWWT, and it wasn't that good.

[Easy Mac]

I liked it. Not as good as the first one, but it had a different look and feel to it, which was unexpected. I liked the camera work, it wasn't nearly as glitzy and polished as the first one. It didn't have the "cool" factor of the first one, but I don't think they were going for the same kind of cool. They were going for a more European type of thing with this movie. Damon did a good job stepping up, with Clooney taking more of a back seat. Julia Roberts wasn't featured too prominently... thank God. But Catherine was absolutely stunning... WOW!

It definitely felt like an insider movie, like Ocean's Eleven meets Full Frontal or something along those lines. Lots of more inside jokes in this one. I definitely enjoyed Topher Grace making fun of his own movie near the beginning... classic, and I'm suprised a studio let him do it.

Not a bad movie, but I like how they didn't try to make a standard sequal, at least in terms of looks and style. The "grittiness" of the movie fit well with how they characters seemed less assured of themselves this time around.

Overall it was in the B range. Far behind Anchorman as my top movie of the year.

[Easy Mac]

dola, and Clooney is my favorite actor around... he just makes movies I enjoy. The Ocean movies, Oh Brother, Intolerable Cruelty...

Thank god he got past that One Fine Day/ Batman phase.

in-post dola,
i must say, there were 7 commercials and 4 previews before the movie... I felt a little cheated. I would have preferred the other way around if the numbers had to stay the same. The previews were for MR. and MRS. Smith, aka True Lies with Pitt and Jolie; that Vin Deisel nanny movie, aka that Hulk Hogan nannie movie; Constantine, or another weird Keanu movie; and Batman Begins, or another Batman movie.

Are there original ideas left in Hollywood? Although Batman looked sweet.

[Logan]

Ewww. Not to rancidly disagree, but...I have zero desire to ever see either of those.(in reference to Ocean's 11)

Just out of curiousity...what could possibly make someone not have a desire to see a movie like Ocean's Eleven? It's about a group of friends...stealing money...from Las Vegas...with comedy...and action.

Not to be a dick, but I really don't understand how someone can NOT want to see a movie like that.

[korme]

I didn't see Fight Club until last year. It ended up being another one of those movies that was decent but not worthy of the worship some give it.
how dare you disrespect marmel or my worship like that

every line in that movie is a classic, EVERY LINE

[korme]

I liked it. Not as good as the first one, but it had a different look and feel to it, which was unexpected. I liked the camera work, it wasn't nearly as glitzy and polished as the first one. It didn't have the "cool" factor of the first one, but I don't think they were going for the same kind of cool. They were going for a more European type of thing with this movie. Damon did a good job stepping up, with Clooney taking more of a back seat. Julia Roberts wasn't featured too prominently... thank God. But Catherine was absolutely stunning... WOW!
Yes, Catherine Zeta-Jones at one point was making me lose my attention and just think about how stunning she was.

[MrBug708]

When I saw it, during the previews, everyone cheered for Keanu in the one bizzare movie he's going to be in. I didn't understand, unless people actually thought The Matrix was a good movie...

[MrBug708]

how dare you disrespect marmel or my worship like that

every line in that movie is a classic, EVERY LINE

Havent seen it still

[sterlingice]

Anyone else sick of the "popularity-hate" in this thread?

You know, the "look at me, I'm cool because I didn't do what the herd did" statements? Yeah, you guys are all such wonderfully hip contrarians. :rolleyes:

{snip}
I know everyone's now going back on it, but CR, you were dead on. I hadn't checked the board for 2 days and only 5 posts into the new ones I hadn't read I was getting a serious "I'm cool because I'm not like everyone else" vibe and getting sick of it. If you sit around bashing or praising movies in movie threads and haven't seen major movies like, say, The Matrix or Lord of the Rings or the new Star Wars movies, well, where's your point of comparison?

SI

[sterlingice]

O think you significantly over-rate the movies made in the last ten years, and Oh Brother in first just slightly ahead of Fargo for Coen brother's movie made in the last ten years.
I'll agree with the sentiments that O Brother is really, really good and that's coming from someone who doesn't really like the Coen brothers.

SI

[Buccaneer]

I know everyone's now going back on it, but CR, you were dead on. I hadn't checked the board for 2 days and only 5 posts into the new ones I hadn't read I was getting a serious "I'm cool because I'm not like everyone else" vibe and getting sick of it. If you sit around bashing or praising movies in movie threads and haven't seen major movies like, say, The Matrix or Lord of the Rings or the new Star Wars movies, well, where's your point of comparison?

SI
About 1,382 other major movies that have come out?

[sterlingice]

About 1,382 other major movies that have come out?
I'd be curious to see a list for 1,382 major movies that have come out. I'm pretty sure that's overstating the "major"-ness of about 1000 of them.

SI

[Karlifornia]

I went into the theater hoping that I could come out of it lambasting Ocean's 11, but it was 90 minutes of pure fun. Great movie. What about Ladybugs with Rodney Dangerfield. I love that it's kind of a kids movie, but is just loaded with stupid, dirty humor. Wait....what am I talking about now?

[Buccaneer]

I'd be curious to see a list for 1,382 major movies that have come out. I'm pretty sure that's overstating the "major"-ness of about 1000 of them.

SI
In the last 70 years? According to the studios and their media lackeys, there were over 20 "major" motion pictures events in 2004. "1,382" was a random number generator but I think you get my point.

[sterlingice]

In the last 70 years? According to the studios and their media lackeys, there were over 20 "major" motion pictures events in 2004. "1,382" was a random number generator but I think you get my point.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the "last 10 years" movie thing people were talking about. Yeah, I'll buy that 1500 major movies have been made in history.

SI

[Buccaneer]

I get that a lot, SI. When I talk about things that happened before 1990 (or 1980, or 1970), people look at me funny. I recall many more movies in the 1980s than I do in the past 10 years.

[oliegirl]

I can relate, I'm the only person never to have seen any of the LotR or Star Wars prequels or any of the superhero movies.

I've seen a lot of superhero movies, mostly because of my son, but have never seen the Star Wars Prequels or the LotR movies. I actually tried to watch the first one with radii once, but I fell asleep about 45 minutes into it.

[Easy Mac]

but I fell asleep about 45 minutes into it.
Thats what my girlfriend always tells her friends when they ask her how a movie was... but believe me, she wasn't sleeping.

[kcchief19]

Just as a point of referrence -- having seen The Matrix doesn't automatically qualify you to be a critic or anything. It was all I could do to stubmle through that first movie -- let's just say Keanu Reeves is about my least favorite actor on the planet.

I did see Ocean's 12 today. I give it a thumbs up. Steven Soderbergh is a bit of a schizophrenic director. You have a run-of-the-mill film like "Erin Brockovich" and then you have "Sex, Lies & Videotape" or "Traffic." I thought Ocean's Eleven was more in the "popcorn" genre of films. This movie has more in common with his earlier work and it "feels" more like a Soderbergh film, whereas the first movie really could have been directed by almost anyone.

About my only complaint was that the plot was needlessly complicated at times. Other than that, I liked it.