Ricky Williams : Dolphin's problems aren't my problem

[GrantDawg]

Why do people keep interviewing him? 60 Feakin' Minutes!!! Isn't there something more important going on (or at least, couldn't they make something up)?

[Deattribution]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1947889


NEW YORK -- Ricky Williams insists the Miami Dolphins' dismal season isn't his fault.


"That's their problem ... It's not my problem anymore," Williams told "60 Minutes" in an interview to air Sunday on CBS. "I played as hard as I could whenever I put that uniform on, but I'm not doing that anymore, you know? I moved on."


The Dolphins are 2-11 this season. Williams, 27, stunned his team by retiring shortly before Miami opened training camp in July.


"I didn't know ahead of time or I would have given them a clue," he said.


Williams said a third failed drug test made him retire because he was "scared to death" that people would find out he smoked marijuana.


"The thing I had the most trouble with was that after you fail your third test, then it becomes public knowledge," said Williams in the interview, parts of which will also be shown on CBS' Sunday pregame show "The NFL Today." "That's one thing I couldn't deal with at the time -- people knowing that I smoke marijuana. That was my biggest fear in my whole entire life."



The Dolphins filed a lawsuit in federal court against the running back, seeking the $8.6 million an arbitrator ruled he owes the team for breaching his contract. Williams is fighting the decision.



He gave up the $5 million he would have earned this season, which would have been his sixth in the NFL. He is now enrolled in a 17-month course at the California College of Ayurveda in Grass Valley, Calif., studying holistic medicine.



"To a lot of people, I look very foolish in what I am doing and I understand that," Williams said. "(It doesn't bother me) because the only thing that matters is how I feel, and if I let what they feel affect me, then it changes how I feel."


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Does this guy intentionally like making himself look more and more like an ass?

[Crapshoot]

He's right. As much as many of you resent him - he chose to walk away from his job. ESPN keeps interviewing him- blame them, not Rickey.

[Axxon]

Does this guy intentionally like making himself look more and more like an ass?

Personally I don't think he gives half a shit what other people think about how he is choosing to live his life, nor should he. I say good for him and if he can make a buck or two exploiting the common man's inability to perceive life outside the box then more power to him.

People take sports far too seriously I think. If it was Ricky Williams stock broker who quit to study holistic medicine, he's allowed and it's fine. Bold even. Ricky Williams, football player does it and he's a nutjob.

Ricky is rubbing the whole money equals happiness crowd the wrong way and it's great to watch. I am rapidly becoming a Ricky Williams fan.

[Axxon]

dola -

To answer GrantDawg's question, they keep interviewing him because he's an entertaining story and no one really still can believe the guy is for real.

[WSUCougar]

Okay, we'll put it in your terms. He completely blind-sided his employer, who had based a huge portion of the company's operation upon him, for both the present and the immediate future. He accepted a huge signing bonus for this role, yet refuses to pay it back despite "walking away from his job."

How you can be a fan of this guy absolutely mystifies me, but to each his own.

[Crapshoot]

Okay, we'll put it in your terms. He completely blind-sided his employer, who had based a huge portion of the company's operation upon him, for both the present and the immediate future. He accepted a huge signing bonus for this role, yet refuses to pay it back despite "walking away from his job."

How you can be a fan of this guy absolutely mystifies me, but to each his own.

WSU he wants to repaid the portion of the signing bonus dealing with the years he has played - which seems eminently reasonable. What's the harm in that ?

[Deattribution]

Personally I don't think he gives half a shit what other people think about how he is choosing to live his life, nor should he. I say good for him and if he can make a buck or two exploiting the common man's inability to perceive life outside the box then more power to him.

People take sports far too seriously I think. If it was Ricky Williams stock broker who quit to study holistic medicine, he's allowed and it's fine. Bold even. Ricky Williams, football player does it and he's a nutjob.

Ricky is rubbing the whole money equals happiness crowd the wrong way and it's great to watch. I am rapidly becoming a Ricky Williams fan.


Personally I don't think he has a friggin clue, he says he doesn't care what people think, yet he was terrified for anyone to find out he smokes pot. So he retired. Not to mention, ESPN or anyone else doesn't force interviews on nobody.

Last week, he retired because he didn't have a passion.

The week before that, he had a passion.

The week before that, he didn't have a passion.

Before that, he retired so he could avoid drug test, and smoke pot.

The week before that, he didn't like the new OC for the Dolphins.

Before that, he was unhappy with his pay.

Before that, he was unhappy with the amount of carries he got (too many).

Yeah, he's not a nutjob..... :rolleyes:

I'm so glad I live 'inside the box'

[Maple Leafs]

[Williams said a third failed drug test made him retire because he was "scared to death" that people would find out he smoked marijuana.

"The thing I had the most trouble with was that after you fail your third test, then it becomes public knowledge," said Williams in the interview, parts of which will also be shown on CBS' Sunday pregame show "The NFL Today." "That's one thing I couldn't deal with at the time -- people knowing that I smoke marijuana. That was my biggest fear in my whole entire life."Apparently he got over that fear.

[Axxon]

Personally I don't think he has a friggin clue, he says he doesn't care what people think, yet he was terrified for anyone to find out he smokes pot. So he retired. Not to mention, ESPN or anyone else doesn't force interviews on nobody.

Last week, he retired because he didn't have a passion.

The week before that, he had a passion.

The week before that, he didn't have a passion.

Before that, he retired so he could avoid drug test, and smoke pot.

The week before that, he didn't like the new OC for the Dolphins.

Before that, he was unhappy with his pay.

Before that, he was unhappy with the amount of carries he got (too many).

Yeah, he's not a nutjob..... :rolleyes:

I'm so glad I live 'inside the box'

I'm glad you're happy inside the box. I'm glad he's happy outside the box. I wish more people were happy with the choices they've made with their lot.

The difference I see is that Ricky hasn't criticized how you live your life or the choices you've made nor does he call you crazy or a nutjob.

As for why Ricky quit remember this, his agent was trying to cut a deal to get him back in football. This was a deal he never wanted nor pushed for but I'm quite sure he was coached to say all the "PC" things about having passion etc. That's what all that sounded like and until anyone writes anything that shows that Ricky wanted anything more to do with football that's what I'm gonna believe.

[Deattribution]

I'm glad you're happy inside the box. I'm glad he's happy outside the box. I wish more people were happy with the choices they've made with their lot.

The difference I see is that Ricky hasn't criticized how you live your life or the choices you've made nor does he call you crazy or a nutjob.

As for why Ricky quit remember this, his agent was trying to cut a deal to get him back in football. This was a deal he never wanted nor pushed for but I'm quite sure he was coached to say all the "PC" things about having passion etc. That's what all that sounded like and until anyone writes anything that shows that Ricky wanted anything more to do with football that's what I'm gonna believe.


I am glad you're so keen to everyones opinions , considering I never called him a nutjob till you accused me of doing so, along with the fact I never criticized him untill you accused me of doing so... all I said initially was that he continously made himself look like an ass.

He hasn't criticized my life, nor my choices - but I am not on national tv, you take what comes with it , the good and the bad... You don't want to be criticized nationally for your choices... become a stock broker, I hear it's okay for them to bail on their employer even if they're contractually obligated along with morally and personally obligated to a team of workers, a family even. Then again, he wanted to smoke some pot, he's way out of the box, good for him... Who cares what the other 56 or so players along with coaches had happen due to his choices, Ricky is a cool dude, he lives outside the box - with his reefer.

And you want to quit and get off national tv, away from criticism, stop doing national interviews.

Believe what you want, half of what I mentioned came straight from his mouth, not his agent... the only thing the agent said was the passion stuff, aside from that... it was all Ricky, practically quoted.

[Axxon]

Okay, we'll put it in your terms. He completely blind-sided his employer, who had based a huge portion of the company's operation upon him, for both the present and the immediate future. He accepted a huge signing bonus for this role, yet refuses to pay it back despite "walking away from his job."

How you can be a fan of this guy absolutely mystifies me, but to each his own.

I'm a fan of a person who chooses to live their life on their own terms and harms no one in the process.

One thing I've heard from every place I've ever worked and is absolutely true "no one is irreplacable." If the team didn't have a plan B behind Ricky then that is their problem and they deserve to lose.

Had Ricky gone down to an ACL tear they'd be in the same boat. He didn't. He retired, just like Barry Sanders and I admire Barry doing what he wanted to do too.

As long as all the legal definitions and requirements of being retired are met ( and that's what they're doing now in court ) then more power to him. The only one it seems worried about his lost money is his agent and I'm sure he'll live just fine.

Now, had Ricky been using this excuse as a ploy to change teams which some suggested I'd be all over him about that but he didn't. He doesn't want to play football anymore. He isn't. Good for him.

I'd say the exact same thing to anyone who left a job they couldn't stand and sought a bit of peace and happiness in their life. Most of us spend almost a third of our lives at work. We sacrifice that much of our lives to misery if we hate that choice; football players sacrifice even more. We sacrifice roughly a third sleeping.

It makes no sense to me to sacrifice half my waking life miserable just to make enough money to endure the other half. To make it worse, what made life bearable to Ricky was something that would cost him his ability to make enough money in the first place. He was in a lose-lose situation where he had to work at a job that he hated and couldn't enjoy the fruits of that work in his off time.

That my friends makes no sense.

[Axxon]

I am glad you're so keen to everyones opinions , considering I never called him a nutjob till you accused me of doing so, along with the fact I never criticized him untill you accused me of doing so... all I said initially was that he continously made himself look like an ass.


Lets see


Yeah, he's not a nutjob..... :rolleyes:


I made the mistake of reading what you wrote. My bad. Most people use the roll eyes when they are saying the opposite of what they've just written. Didn't realize you played by a different set of rules than the rest of us.

Just like Ricky. :)

See, you guys are more alike than you think. ;)

[Deattribution]

People take sports far too seriously I think. If it was Ricky Williams stock broker who quit to study holistic medicine, he's allowed and it's fine. Bold even. Ricky Williams, football player does it and he's a nutjob.




I never said I didn't say it, I said I never said it till I was accused of it anyway. You obviously cannot read as well as you believe.

[Axxon]

Apparently he got over that fear.

I'm sure the fear was related to the fact that he worked in a profession where the fans actually feel that they own you and the pressure that comes with being caught for the third time ( and he would have received the same grief from dolphin fans and far more media scrutiny, testing programs, after care, etc, etc, etc ) was strong.

For a guy who just wants peace and quiet and suffers from anxiety disorder I can see where that's a world more painful than just quitting, going back to school and smoking legal medical marijuana which I'm sure he gets or is working on getting.

What really concerns me is that I remember reading the same kind of things ( minus the drugs angle of course ) about Pat Tillman when he made the unpopular choice and quit football so lets not make this what it isn't. What it is is that people can't accept that someone would walk away from the money number one and the selfish desire to have that person perform like a trained seal for their amusement.

These same people though would gladly boo and throw things at him and rip him in the press if his love of the game had him hang on a year or two at the end of his career because he didn't leave "for the good of the team." Why should he worry or feel he owes something to a group like this anyway?

[Axxon]

I never said I didn't say it, I said I never said it till I was accused of it anyway. You obviously cannot read as well as you believe.

Well, apparantly not since I can find no one accusing you of it at all. Since I'm so horrid of a reader surely you can quote the relevant accusation for me like I did for you.

Don't even go there with this weak bull though.


People take sports far too seriously I think. If it was Ricky Williams stock broker who quit to study holistic medicine, he's allowed and it's fine. Bold even. Ricky Williams, football player does it and he's a nutjob.


This was a direct response to the general reaction to the Ricky Williams story not to anything you specifically posted thus the use of the noun "people" as opposed to "you."

I'd already addressed your post with the first paragraph which stated that he probably doesn't care what "anyone" again not you, "anyone" as in "people" not as in Deattribution specifically.

In fact, I don't address you at all but simply state the obvious, Ricky doesn't care what "other people" think.

That was a very generalized comment. Please, please, please tell me you have another post in mind, one that actually accuses you of calling him a nutjob.

[Tigercat]

[url]He is now enrolled in a 17-month course at the California College of Ayurveda in Grass Valley, Calif., studying holistic medicine.

:D

[Axxon]

dola - I really can't read. You said specifically I accused you of it first so you HAVE to be meaning that weak quote above.

Maybe the problem isn't my reading, maybe it's readers jumping to conclusions without proper reflection.

[JAG]

What really concerns me is that I remember reading the same kind of things ( minus the drugs angle of course ) about Pat Tillman when he made the unpopular choice and quit football so lets not make this what it isn't. What it is is that people can't accept that someone would walk away from the money number one and the selfish desire to have that person perform like a trained seal for their amusement.

I don't think the Pat Tillman angle is a relevant one. From what I remember reading, the general consensus was that people were impressed that he would leave behind the dollars he would've made in football to serve his country. Even his coach was supportive of the move. Contrast that with a guy who could've quit at any time during the offseason and given his team an opportunity to find a replacement for him, but who apparently quit only because it was coming out that he did pot. By doing that and getting caught three times, he had already let his teammates down for his own selfish desires.

Personally, I don't have a problem with someone wanting to live life on their own terms (although I may have a beef with someone who has three children and insists on smoking pot frequently). But because he chose to do all this in the manner he did, without any regard to the people around him who were counting on him, I have to see his actions as very selfish.

[Axxon]

He hasn't criticized my life, nor my choices - but I am not on national tv, you take what comes with it , he good and the bad... You don't want to be criticized nationally for your choices...

Lets get back to the beginning here because I see now that you took my first response as an attack on you and it really had nothing to do with you at all.

My very first answer needs to be repeated here.


Personally I don't think he gives half a shit what other people think about how he is choosing to live his life, nor should he.


That pretty much covers it and we should let it blow over. If you took my quote as an attack, understand that it wasn't and I apologize that you felt that way.

I just don't see a reason for us to get snippy with each other. I don't have a problem with you or how you look at this situation. I just am presenting another way of looking at it.

[JAG]

Nice catch Tigercat. :)

[Axxon]

:D

He's probably doing that so he can prescribe his own medical marijuana. :D

[Deattribution]

Lets get back to the beginning here because I see now that you took my first response as an attack on you and it really had nothing to do with you at all.

My very first answer needs to be repeated here.



That pretty much covers it and we should let it blow over. If you took my quote as an attack, understand that it wasn't and I apologize that you felt that way.

I just don't see a reason for us to get snippy with each other. I don't have a problem with you or how you look at this situation. I just am presenting another way of looking at it.

No problems, a little snippy, although that could be attributed to alot of things tonight but I've no problems with you neither... the reason as for taking it directed towards me is because I was quoted by you in your original comments. Perhaps you meant to quote the article instead, but it's just how I took it. Anyway, apologies accepted, and I apologize as well for being a bit hostile.

[Tigercat]

Too bad for Ricky that Ayurveda is Indian based holistic and spiritual medicine. i think they are much more likely to make hemp rope and clothing than smoke pot in India.

Sorry Ricky, Cannabis is not a common herbal medicine there, ya might want to try a new method of "spiritual healing". hxxp://ayurveda-foryou.com/ayurveda_herb/herbs.html

[Axxon]

No problems, a little snippy, although that could be attributed to alot of things tonight but I've no problems with you neither... the reason as for taking it directed towards me is because I was quoted by you in your original comments. Perhaps you meant to quote the article instead, but it's just how I took it. Anyway, apologies accepted, and I apologize as well for being a bit hostile.

Accepted. :)

Actually, the part I requoted in my last post about giving a crap was answering your comment.

The rest was addressing in general all the Ricky threads I've seen and the overwhelming thought that he must be an idiot/brain dead stoner etc to leave football and not what you posted at all. I could have been clearer on that.

[Axxon]

I don't think the Pat Tillman angle is a relevant one. From what I remember reading, the general consensus was that people were impressed that he would leave behind the dollars he would've made in football to serve his country. Even his coach was supportive of the move. Contrast that with a guy who could've quit at any time during the offseason and given his team an opportunity to find a replacement for him, but who apparently quit only because it was coming out that he did pot. By doing that and getting caught three times, he had already let his teammates down for his own selfish desires.

Personally, I don't have a problem with someone wanting to live life on their own terms (although I may have a beef with someone who has three children and insists on smoking pot frequently). But because he chose to do all this in the manner he did, without any regard to the people around him who were counting on him, I have to see his actions as very selfish.


Tillman got a lot of criticism from both within and outside football. Who can forget Simeon Rice and his disgraceful "well, he's not really an athlete so it wasn't any big deal for him" comment?

It didn't get to Rickyesque levels but it certainly is in the same ballpark. A lot of people thought he was crazy, period. Search this group, there was a big thread on it.

Your last paragraph hits it on the head for me. It certainly was selfish. There's no doubt about that but at least he has a well documented disorder that makes playing football and dealing with people extremely difficult.

I think that people ( not you )wanting him play a game in a situation that was miserable for him is selfish too. He has his anxiety disorder, what are their excuses?

[JonInMiddleGA]

d... and no one really still can believe the guy is for real.

I might buy the "entertaining" part of your statement (damned if I understand the public fascination with criminals, but I won't deny it exists either).

But I'm not so sure there's quite as much disbelief as you think. After all, he's not exactly a unique presentation of throwing a successful career away to pursue illegal activities. He's just a higher-than-typical profile example.

[Ragone]

Williams said a third failed drug test made him retire because he was "scared to death" that people would find out he smoked marijuana.

Uh rickey.. everyone knows you do now..

[Axxon]

Too bad for Ricky that Ayurveda is Indian based holistic and spiritual medicine. i think they are much more likely to make hemp rope and clothing than smoke pot in India.

Sorry Ricky, Cannabis is not a common herbal medicine there, ya might want to try a new method of "spiritual healing". hxxp://ayurveda-foryou.com/ayurveda_herb/herbs.html

Actually, I was the one who had no clue about their herbal medicine. I have no idea what Ricky knows about them.

If it comes out though that he really thought it would aid his pursuit of marijuana I'd be a fan for life. It's really, really hard to write comedy like that and it would obviously come naturally to him. :D

[Tigercat]

Actually, I was the one who had no clue about their herbal medicine. I have no idea what Ricky knows about them.

If it comes out though that he really thought it would aid his pursuit of marijuana I'd be a fan for life. It's really, really hard to write comedy like that and it would obviously come naturally to him. :D

I just find it ammusing that one month a guy is talking pretty much about only smoking pot as a major part of his life philosophy, and then is getting into studying holistic medicine. I have little doubt that some herbal medicines may be smoked and such, but I think hitting the pot three times a day is probably pretty counterproductive to having a full healthy body.

[Axxon]

I might buy the "entertaining" part of your statement (damned if I understand the public fascination with criminals, but I won't deny it exists either).

But I'm not so sure there's quite as much disbelief as you think. After all, he's not exactly a unique presentation of throwing a successful career away to pursue illegal activities. He's just a higher-than-typical profile example.

I do believe his situation is unique to professional football and quite exceedingly rare in any sports most likely.

Many have thrown away careers by being banned or being caught in the act of committing a crime. I can't recall one other case of someone proactively quitting a sport that still wanted him simply so he could pursue said activities and again, if he stays in california or a MM state, it's not even correct to say that he's pursuing an illegal activity at all, supreme court decision pending of course.

editted for embarrasing and unintentional switching of tenses mid paragraph. :mad:

[Axxon]

I just find it ammusing that one month a guy is talking pretty much about only smoking pot as a major part of his life philosophy, and then is getting into studying holistic medicine. I have little doubt that some herbal medicines may be smoked and such, but I think hitting the pot three times a day is probably pretty counterproductive to having a full healthy body.

I don't know. That body is a world more healthy than mine and likely 99.5% of the people on this board. If he's not playing high money sports I'd think that chassis will serve him just fine, dope or no dope.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I do believe his situation is unique to professional football and quite exceedingly rare in any sports most likely.

Ah, that's a more narrow distinction than I was drawing. I was thinking along the lines of "entertainers" or "celebrities" in general than of sports specifically, so I can see where we're working with kinda different levels of uniqueness here.


On the other point, I wasn't aware that RW had a prescription for MM at any point. If so, I'll conceed the criminality is still hanging in the breeze for now (although I do have reasonably high hopes for a positive resolution of that issue).

[Axxon]

Ah, that's a more narrow distinction than I was drawing. I was thinking along the lines of "entertainers" or "celebrities" in general than of sports specifically, so I can see where we're working with kinda different levels of uniqueness here.


On the other point, I wasn't aware that RW had a prescription for MM at any point. If so, I'll conceed the criminality is still hanging in the breeze for now (although I do have reasonably high hopes for a positive resolution of that issue).


Well, celebrities generally don't have to quit their job to pursue illegal drugs. Just ask Robert Downey junior.

As for his rx for MM, I don't know if he has one or not but he most likely didn't when he was playing. Still, it should be trivially easy for him to get one at this point.

I don't think you're going to get the supreme court to go your way on this one. It's the old states rights issue and the states are right in this case; it's none of the federal government's business as long as there is no interstate commerce involved.

Do we want a government where the states are entirely at the whim of the boys from washington for every issue that faces them? Do we want to open that can of worms over this issue?

Come on, a fine upstanding southern boy like yourself has a problem with states rights? :D

[Axxon]

Ah, that's a more narrow distinction than I was drawing. I was thinking along the lines of "entertainers" or "celebrities" in general than of sports specifically, so I can see where we're working with kinda different levels of uniqueness here.


Minor pet peeve.

Unique is defined as- "Being the only one", "one of a kind"

I'm not sure how you can talk about levels of one of a kind ness. One either is one of a kind or one isn't. :D

[JonInMiddleGA]

Come on, a fine upstanding southern boy like yourself has a problem with states rights? :D

Just depends upon whether the feds or the states are right ;)

[daedalus]

Axxon, I can sort of see where you're coming from but I can't say I agree with it. Right now, I'm an hourly "at will" employee (I just love my life) and, if I chose to walk away from this job, say, right before my shift, whether because I found a real job somewhere else or just because I wanted to go smoke, 1) they'd be pissed but 2) they'd get over it. (It's be classless of me, but whatever. They can deal, for all I care.) I feel like this is how you're looking at Williams' situation. However, had I accepted their financial package to go to school and signed a contract to work there for a period of time and I decided to just walk out then, well, 1) they'd still be pissed but 2) they'd be all over my arse to bring back the money they fronted me. That's more of what I see the situation as. They fronted me the money and, in the process, planned out their situation so that they know I would be there for a period of time. If I decide to walk out on them without warning, they're majorly screwed as they had made long range plan with me penciled in.

A couple of things with that example: 1) I'm away that it's not exactly the same scenario with regards to fronting the money for school and all but that I'm more referring to the fact that the company or team had paid a certain amount up front with the expectation that someone would be there filling a role and 2) Obviously, those are my opinions and my views are going to be coloured somewhat by past experiences. Obviously, you have your own view shaped by your own past experiences. That's cool. I just wanted to bring up differing point of view.WSU he wants to repaid the portion of the signing bonus dealing with the years he has played - which seems eminently reasonable. What's the harm in that ?I have not seen this, Crapshoot. Everything I have seen, including the above quoted article, mentions that he's fighting being required to pay back the bonus.The Dolphins filed a lawsuit in federal court against the running back, seeking the $8.6 million an arbitrator ruled he owes the team for breaching his contract. Williams is fighting the decision.

[rkmsuf]

I guess Ricky needs the money. Why else would he go on this show?

[judicial clerk]

I bet Ricky was soooo disappointed when he got to Grass Valley.

I think that Ricky's timing was bad, but his real mistake was violating the leagues substance abuse policy. Whether he retired or was suspended for four games, he would be putting his employer and co-employees in a bad spot.

I am not concerned at all about ricky breaching his contract with the Dolphins. His contract was not guaranteed, and the Dolphins could have ended it themselves at any time. To paraphrase Bob Sugar; Big times sports is not show friends, its show business. If Ricky was not producing, the dolphins would not think twice about cutting him. Look at poor Wanny, or Lawyer Milloy, or Ty Willingham, or Kurt Warner (was he cut?) the list goes on and on. The lawyers will decide who is entitled to what money.

I just think its sad that Ricky's would let his desire to use some stupid drug influence such important life decisions.

The most important question is, how long before the Raiders can bring him in for a workout?

[Surtt]

I bet Ricky was soooo disappointed when he got to Grass Valley.

I think that Ricky's timing was bad, but his real mistake was violating the leagues substance abuse policy. Whether he retired or was suspended for four games, he would be putting his employer and co-employees in a bad spot.

I am not concerned at all about ricky breaching his contract with the Dolphins. His contract was not guaranteed, and the Dolphins could have ended it themselves at any time. To paraphrase Bob Sugar; Big times sports is not show friends, its show business. If Ricky was not producing, the dolphins would not think twice about cutting him. Look at poor Wanny, or Lawyer Milloy, or Ty Willingham, or Kurt Warner (was he cut?) the list goes on and on. The lawyers will decide who is entitled to what money.

I just think its sad that Ricky's would let his desire to use some stupid drug influence such important life decisions.

The most important question is, how long before the Raiders can bring him in for a workout?

I agree Ricky's time was bad, but so what.

What if he blew his knee out in the first pre-season game.
Miami screwed the pooch by not having a viable back up.
That is not his fault, nor is their terrible season.

[daedalus]

I agree Ricky's time was bad, but so what.

What if he blew his knee out in the first pre-season game.
Miami screwed the pooch by not having a viable back up.
That is not his fault, nor is their terrible season.Not to single you out or anything but I've always thought the injury argument (ie, "it would have been the same had he blown his knee") is one of the most asstarded one ever. Nobody chooses to blow out their knee. Robert Edward did not choose to lose a promising career. At the same time, nobody makes a cut on turf and ends up on the ground smoking a joint. Ricky Williams chose to lit one up. Or more than one, I suppose. I just happen to see a fair distinction between choice and bad-shit-happens-sometimes.

[Suicane75]

Anyone seen the previews? He looks like a homless dude. Apparently the one thing he can't grow properly is a beard.