View Full Version : Donavon Darius hit on Robert Ferguson
Crapshoot
12-19-2004, 07:13 PM
Absolutely disgusting- he clothslined Ferguson (who had jumped up for a catch) at his neck, and knocked of the helmet. Ferguson hasn't gotten up yet. Wanna bet ESPN will feature it on "JACKED UP" ?
Crapshoot
12-19-2004, 07:15 PM
Darius just got ejected from the game - good start. Even the Jacksonville players are angry at Darius. There's a stretcher on the field- he appears to be unconcious.
Easy Mac
12-19-2004, 07:19 PM
at least they ejected him.
Cringer
12-19-2004, 07:21 PM
Anyone else just hear some fan's voice very clearly come through the broadcast yelling "Asshole!", that about sums it up for me.....
Crapshoot
12-19-2004, 07:22 PM
I just think it speaks volumes about the fans in Green Bay that they didn't throw anything when Darius went off the field. Imagine him having to run through the dog pound or something.
Meh- Its a basic act of being a fan. I dont think they out to be commended for not throwing things .
Easy Mac
12-19-2004, 07:23 PM
I just think it speaks volumes about the fans in Green Bay that they didn't throw anything when Darius went off the field. Imagine him having to run through the dog pound or something.
QuikSand
12-19-2004, 07:33 PM
re: Donavon Darius hit on Robert Ferguson
Maybe Darius should have used some of the pointers from this thread:
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=33386
maybe he thought he was in the WWF?
Cringer
12-19-2004, 07:39 PM
its a game of hitting
Exactly, of hitting, not trying to take off a guys head. He could have laid a hell of a hit on him and no one would have said anything bad about him, but he didn't....
ISiddiqui
12-19-2004, 07:43 PM
Though I was really amazed at Dierdorf's comments that 20 years ago that was not only legal, but routine behavior! :eek:
VPI97
12-19-2004, 08:00 PM
Though I was really amazed at Dierdorf's comments that 20 years ago that was not only legal, but routine behavior! :eek: That move was a staple in Dick 'Night Train' Lane's defensive techniques.
primelord
12-19-2004, 08:04 PM
re: Donavon Darius hit on Robert Ferguson
Maybe Darius should have used some of the pointers from this thread:
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=33386 (http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showthread.php?t=33386)
Heh I read the title the same way. I was wondering why Darius was hitting on Ferguson.
Jesse_Ewiak
12-19-2004, 08:10 PM
LARIATO~!
cthomer5000
12-19-2004, 08:19 PM
Ferguson got jacked up, old-school style.
Hurst2112
12-19-2004, 08:29 PM
Though I was really amazed at Dierdorf's comments that 20 years ago that was not only legal, but routine behavior! :eek:
It was more like a Fred "The Hammer" Williamson style play. He played for the Chiefs in the late 60s. Viscious player. Made Chuck Cecil look like a fairy.
Buccaneer
12-19-2004, 08:39 PM
Dierdorf has always been a complete moron. Maybe he really does think that 20 years were the 60s/70s instead of the time of Montana and Marino.
Even the Jacksonville players are angry at Darius.
But some were patty-caking him as well. :mad:
I think he should have been thrown out immediately.
Crapshoot
12-19-2004, 08:40 PM
Dierdorf has always been a complete moron. Maybe he really does think that 20 years were the 60s/70s instead of the time of Montana and Marino.
But some were patty-caking him as well. :mad:
I think he should have been thrown out immediately.
Didnt see that- fair enough. Stroud was definitely screaming at him. And ya, I think they threw him out due to the crowd reaction and after seeing it on the big board.
illinifan999
12-19-2004, 09:01 PM
anyone have a link to the video?
dixieflatline
12-19-2004, 09:42 PM
Didnt see that- fair enough. Stroud was definitely screaming at him. And ya, I think they threw him out due to the crowd reaction and after seeing it on the big board.
My guess is they threw him out after Ferguson didn't get up. He should have been thrown out right away though IMO. It will be interesting to see how much the league fines/suspensions will be.
ISiddiqui
12-19-2004, 10:26 PM
Actually, I think they tossed him soon after the play. They were on the sideline explaining to Jack Del Rio about it soon after and Darius left the field before the refs announced that he was tossed. I think he was thrown out soon after, but they didn't announce it until explaining to the coach.
Fonzie
12-19-2004, 10:48 PM
its a game of hitting
So, are you condoning that hit?
korme
12-20-2004, 03:16 AM
http://espn.starwave.com/media/nfl/2004/1219/photo/a_ferguson_il.jpg
judicial clerk
12-20-2004, 11:25 AM
It was more like a Fred "The Hammer" Williamson style play. He played for the Chiefs in the late 60s. Viscious player. Made Chuck Cecil look like a fairy
Jack Tatum makes 'em both look like choir boys.
I did not see the hit, but the guy on ESPN radio said that he thought the hit was somewhat accidental
Blackadar
12-20-2004, 11:28 AM
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/packer/img/rev/dec04/24_1219.jpg
Blackadar
12-20-2004, 11:29 AM
Vicious. Simply vicious.
cuervo72
12-20-2004, 11:35 AM
Jack Tatum makes 'em both look like choir boys.
I did not see the hit, but the guy on ESPN radio said that he thought the hit was somewhat accidental
The Tatum/Stingley hit was what first came to mind when I saw the play.
And "Hammer" Williamson got hammered himself in Super Bowl I...
Desnudo
12-20-2004, 12:43 PM
I thought this was going to be a gay football player thread.
B & B
12-20-2004, 02:07 PM
Excellent pic Blackadar
Glengoyne
12-20-2004, 03:03 PM
That is the best still of the hit I have seen yet, Blackie.
As for the Tatum - Stingley comments. IIRC Tatum didn't lay Stingley out with a clothesline, he drilled him with his helmet and shoulder pads. I somehow remember categorizing Tatum's hit as brutal, but not Illegal. Perhaps it is just the Raider fan of my youth talking.
Darius apparently claimed that he was swinging at the ball as Ferguson caught it. In the live video the hit is delivered right after the ball arrives. The still photo doesn't really depict that. I don't know if it was a blatant cheapshot as it appears, but he certainly deserves what the league dishes out.
rkmsuf
12-20-2004, 03:15 PM
It think it was pretty clear he wound up and threw a haymaker. Whether that was to incapacitate Fergueson or jar the ball loose we don't know.
Either way it was cheap...he could have killed the guy and there were other options on how to tackle the man.
I know you are supposed to "jack people up" but that was crap.
gstelmack
12-20-2004, 03:21 PM
It think it was pretty clear he wound up and threw a haymaker. Whether that was to incapacitate Fergueson or jar the ball loose we don't know.
Either way it was cheap...he could have killed the guy and there were other options on how to tackle the man.
I know you are supposed to "jack people up" but that was crap.
As someone who watched it live, I agree. It was a brutal, unnecessary hit. You swat the ball with your hands, not your forearm, and he was not aiming for the football in any case. He wrapped that arm around and dragged him down.
Darius should be gone for the season (including playoffs) after that shot.
Blackadar
12-20-2004, 04:31 PM
Excellent pic Blackadar
tyvm. I didn't see the hit except on replay and looked this morning for a pic that suggested how vicious it was. Found it. :)
BigJohn&TheLions
12-20-2004, 04:38 PM
I liked the hit. I did not like the result, and the ejection was appropriate. I don't think Darrius meant to do what he did. He made a hit at full speed, which is nearly impossible to be exact with your aim on a hit. If he was 6 inches lower and caught Ferguson in the chest, we'd all be talking about one of the best hits we've ever seen.
Raven Hawk
12-20-2004, 05:02 PM
Here's another good pic:
http://home.earthlink.net/~ravenhawk/3262060_7_2.jpg
Draft Dodger
12-20-2004, 05:55 PM
Darius doesn't seem to be helping his case very much - I think a little remorse on his part might have gotten him a little leniency.
It is football do you expect him to play tag?
judicial clerk
12-21-2004, 11:14 AM
And "Hammer" Williamson got hammered himself in Super Bowl I... I remember this from NFL films. I think the Packers fullback put him down with a knee to the head.
I don't think Tatum ever apologized either.
Isn't this the same kind of hit that ended Frank Gifford's career?
Franklinnoble
12-21-2004, 01:29 PM
I think Darius just played a little too much Tecmo Bowl as a kid. That game was violent, I tellya.
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/1061802567-00.gif
rkmsuf
12-21-2004, 01:35 PM
McConkey
Desnudo
12-21-2004, 01:41 PM
Darius doesn't seem to be helping his case very much - I think a little remorse on his part might have gotten him a little leniency.
Good for him. Sure the hit is illegal today, but that definitely was some quality old school tackling.
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