Wildcard Weekend....

[TLK]

Here we go....

St. Louis/Seattle up first....

[kingfc22]

Rams get the big play early and then waste a T.O. like they always do.

[JAG]

Nice use of two time outs.

[JAG]

LOL

Well, I guess they did get the TD.

[cthomer5000]

I don't see enough to overturn that. Rams clock management always lives up to the criticism. Unreal.

[jetpunk2000]

That clock management was Jet-like.

[Easy Mac]

INT for the Rams... great catch by seattle :rolleyes:

[cthomer5000]

goodnight Seahawks.

[cthomer5000]

Oh Rams.... will you ever learn?

[Easy Mac]

and yet more INT's... This will be a well played, beautiful game.

[GrantDawg]

Nice job getting right back.

[MikeVic]

What the... nice turnovers lol.

[jetpunk2000]

goodnight Seahawks.

Maybe not.

[TLK]

this has been an eventful first 5 minutes of the game...

[kingfc22]

I'm betting a handoff is coming up right here since SEA WR's can't catch.

[kingfc22]

Guess not.

[JAG]

Something tells me the Eagles aren't going to be worried playing the winner of this game (assuming GB wins tomorrow).

[Easy Mac]

wow, they already punted? I turned away from the TV like 30 seconds ago.

[jetpunk2000]

The Seahawks O doesn't look like it wants to be there today.

[TLK]

The Seattle defense is looking good....

[cthomer5000]

This has been a very strange game so far. And I think the winner of this game will get handled easily next week.

[Easy Mac]

Got to love that NFL parity.

[vtbub]

ABC running this game on delay?

[kingfc22]

ABC running this game on delay?
Probably, the Orange Bowl was on delay.

[vtbub]

Radio is 3-4 seconds ahead.

Can't stand MaGuire and Theissman.

[Cringer]

everytime i look up St. Louis has the ball, surprised the score is only 7-3

[jetpunk2000]

Radio is 3-4 seconds ahead.

Can't stand MaGuire and Theissman.

Not to threadjack, but how does Theissman still have a job? He has to be one of the worst analysts on any network.

[temley06]

Holt is shredding Seattle.

[Cringer]

Not to threadjack, but how does Theissman still have a job? He has to be one of the worst analysts on any network.

I put him right next to Deirdorf :mad:

[temley06]

I put him right next to Deirdorf :mad:

Or Pat Summerall.

[Dutch]

14-3. Gotta slow down Rams passing or forget about it.

[cthomer5000]

This is hands-down the worst broadcasting team out there. The only thing I enjoy is what seems to be genuine animosity between Maguire and Theisman.

[Easy Mac]

Probably, the Orange Bowl was on delay.
Too bad they couldn't delay halftime... forever

[jetpunk2000]

I put him right next to Deirdorf :mad:


I was gonna mention Deirdorf too. For some reason he doesn't bother me as much as he did when he was on MNF.

[TLK]

"what do you know about carrying the ball?" :)

[MikeVic]

"what do you know about carrying the ball?"

That was funny.

[Easy Mac]

Maurice Morris, Chester SC just got his head ripped off... I used play him in basketball during gym... He dunked on me many times.

[Dutch]

That was lame. The CB barely touched the WR's head and it negates a sack and gives the Rams a first down. I appreciate offenses, but I'd rather see a good defensive game if the only way to spark an offense is to give them free first downs. Just lame.

[vtbub]

What a gawdawful game.

[cthomer5000]

Strahan has a future on a pre-game show, Billick does not.

[MikeVic]

1 TO left for the Rams. :)

[Easy Mac]

eh, they'd waste them at the end anyway, might as well not have the threat that they'd be there for you to throw away when it matters.

[Easy Mac]

No TO's anymore... only 20 minutes left... NO HUDDLE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Easy Mac]

THeisman said Martz has so many plays that sometimes you outthink yourself. Then says Martz has told him as much.

Martz is so brilliant he doesn't need timeouts.

[Easy Mac]

Torry "Big game" Holt... although he averages less catches, yards, and TD's per playoff game than in the regular season.

[Crapshoot]

Nicely done RAMS....

[Suicane75]

Hawks are impressing here.

I really wanna put some cash down on the Jets -6 1/2............really bad.

[Pumpy Tudors]

What the fuck did Hasselbeck just do? Way to blow a 4th down play, Matt!

[Easy Mac]

Game.

And no, HAsselback had nowhere to run. That should have been caught.

[TLK]

Hasselbeck is the king of emotion..... stupid play though

[Easy Mac]

Pro Bowl RB and a Pro Bowl QB... and they barely made the playoffs... Thats the sign of a great coach ESPN :rolleyes:

[Desnudo]

Pro Bowl RB and a Pro Bowl QB... and they barely made the playoffs... Thats the sign of a great coach ESPN :rolleyes:

Let me tell you, in The National Football League, let me tell you this, we talked to Bobby Engram on Friday, and he said he hadn't cut his fingernails in weeks especially so he could hold onto the ball.

And the Seahawks need to fire their receivers coach.

[cthomer5000]

What the fuck did Hasselbeck just do? Way to blow a 4th down play, Matt!
what? was he supposed to be Engram's hands on that play as well?

[Pumpy Tudors]

I agree that Engram should have caught the ball, but I didn't like the way Hasselbeck handled everything up until the throw. He looked panicked the whole time. To me, it looked like the reason he had nowhere to go was because he was trying not to cross the line of scrimmage. He saw the 5-yard-line, jumped back, and then heaved the pass. If he had committed to a run after stepping up and made one cut to his right, he had a chance to dive at the end zone. I admit that I was harsh in saying that he blew the play, because the play ended up in Engram's hands (literally), but I think Hasselbeck had a better shot with a run.

[cthomer5000]

I disagree Pumpy.

He looked to run, then one of the Rams D-Lineman seemed to jump out of nowhere, and was immediately in his face. He then shuffled to his right a bit while making what was a pretty solid throw.

Engram's gotta catch that ball.

[cthomer5000]

All in all, a pretty good start to my favorite weekend of football.

And how awful is Jevon Kearse in this Pepsi Wild Cherry ad?

[temley06]

An NFL reciever has got to make that catch.

[Travis]

Pumpy, simply, no he didn't. He would have been cut down by the 3 yard line, maybe been able to force himself to the 2, but he wouldn't have picked up the 1st down, never mind the touchdown. There were 4 or 5 Rams between Hass and the endzone, at least 2 on either side of midfield, but still inside the hashes, he wasn't going to pick up enough blocking to make it through.

I didn't like the playcall, haven't liked much in the way of the playcalling on either side of the ball all year, but simple fact was, Engram had the ball hit his hands in the endzone and he couldn't hang on to force (hopefully) O.T.

Lots of changes coming to Seattle in this offseason, sad way to finish what was supposed to be such a promising year.

[mtaystl03]

What a great game. Go Rams! Good start to the NFL playoffs once again. Hats off to Matt Hasselbeck for playing a great game.

[Pumpy Tudors]

To everyone who thinks Hasselbeck had nowhere to go, I certainly see where you're all coming from. I know he's not one of those "mobile" quarterbacks, but he looked ready to run and then stopped. I know it's easy to say now, but I still think he could've run with it if he had committed.

Again, I was harsh for initially putting the blame on him. To be honest, I typed that out before I saw the replay. At full speed, it looked like a poor decision and a bad throw. I didn't even consider that Engram had just plain dropped the pass. Of course, by the time I'd posted, I saw the replay, and then it was obvious that Engram was the real goat on that play. The only comment I can really stick with is that I still think Hasselbeck could've gotten to the goal line with a run and a dive.

[cthomer5000]

To everyone who thinks Hasselbeck had nowhere to go, I certainly see where you're all coming from. I know he's not one of those "mobile" quarterbacks, but he looked ready to run and then stopped.
It's because the hole he was about to take suddenly had a 300 lb guy in it. That's what caused his entire move towards his right.

[Easy Mac]

I hate it when 300 pound guys take the hole I want.

[Dutch]

The Seattle receivers cannot catch. It should never come down to the QB who can't run very well, running for the TD. Hasselbacks strengths is his ability to be a good QB, not a good RB. The WR's should have made catches all day that they failed to do.

But whatever, there's a lot of talent in Seattle, but something is terribly wrong and I can't put my finger on it.

[Pumpy Tudors]

From now on, I'll wait for replays before commenting. :(

[temley06]

NYJ vs SD ought to be a good game, albeit two teams going in different directions.

[Easy Mac]

The Seattle receivers cannot catch. It should never come down to the QB who can't run very well, running for the TD. Hasselbacks strengths is his ability to be a good QB, not a good RB. The WR's should have made catches all day that they failed to do.

But whatever, there's a lot of talent in Seattle, but something is terribly wrong and I can't put my finger on it. *cough*coach*cough*cough*

[Dutch]

Okay, who left the door open and let the LA Smog into the stadium?

[Travis]

*cough*coach*cough*cough*

More specifically, the defensive coordinator. God, Rhodes has got to go.

[Dutch]

*cough*coach*cough*cough*

I've always had a good opinion of Holmgren, but I must admit I haven't paid much attention to him since he's left Green Bay.

[Dutch]

Seattle is out and Homer Glemkin is no more....

10 points to whomever knows where the Homer Glemkin reference comes from.

[cthomer5000]

I think the Jets keep it relatively close, but unfortunately I think the Chargers win this thing fairly easily.

[Suicane75]

No Abraham, No Crebet, Moss is gimpy. Ill just watch and keep my money away.

[cthomer5000]

fuck me.

[cthomer5000]

way to waste a very good opening drive boys. Let's just pack the bags now and leave at halftime.

[Easy Mac]

does your offer still stand if that happens?

[cthomer5000]

does your offer still stand if that happens?
no. but if they win, i'll reconsider.

[Dutch]

Why are some of the players telling us what HS they went to? Is that the latest 5-seconds of fame football player craze?

[Easy Mac]

Why are some of the players telling us what HS they went to? Is that the latest 5-seconds of fame football player craze?
Did they all go to college? Maybe ABC said the last school they graduated? attended classes?

[cthomer5000]

Why are some of the players telling us what HS they went to? Is that the latest 5-seconds of fame football player craze?
This has been an on-going MNF ordeal, and gets more prolific each week. It's gotten to the point where a few guys have even stated what elementary school they've gone to.

[cthomer5000]

If the Jets do one thing well, it's run the draw. I hope Curtis martin grabs his bust and runs a draw right into the Hall of Fame on his induction day.

[hukarez]

This has been an on-going MNF ordeal, and gets more prolific each week. It's gotten to the point where a few guys have even stated what elementary school they've gone to.
A couple more seasons, and I think they'll be stating when and where they were conceived...

[temley06]

Hochuli is the most in shape person on the field.

[cthomer5000]

Hochuli is the most in shape person on the field.
One of my female friends has a crush on him. It started during last year's Super Bowl. He's a lawyer when he's not a ref, she's informed me.

[Easy Mac]

A couple more seasons, and I think they'll be stating when and where they were conceived... you mean like the back of a volkswagen?

[TLK]

This has been an on-going MNF ordeal, and gets more prolific each week. It's gotten to the point where a few guys have even stated what elementary school they've gone to.
I remember Charles Woodson doing that in the Super Bowl a few years back, and getting a laugh out of it....

[Dutch]

One of my female friends has a crush on him. It started during last year's Super Bowl. He's a lawyer when he's not a ref, she's informed me.

Ed Hochuli can kiss my ass for telling the world that Bert Emmanuel didn't catch that football. He's full of shit!

[temley06]

I am not sure who Pennington thinks he is fooling with his 'play action fake', Martin was about 5 feet away from him.

[cthomer5000]

I am not sure who Pennington thinks he is fooling with his 'play action fake', Martin was about 5 feet away from him.
LOL. Yeah, they did a shit job of selling the flea-flicker as well.

For a team that runs as well as they do, the offense really has an alarming lack of play-action.

[temley06]

LOL. Yeah, they did a shit job of selling the flea-flicker as well.

For a team that runs as well as they do, the offense really has an alarming lack of play-action.

Good point, you'd think that they could capitalize on their rushing prowess, especially in this sort of weather.

[cthomer5000]

Just what is San Diego going to do this offseason about the QB situation? I don't really ever recall seeing this sort of situation before. At least not one where the guy who was being run out of town is playing so well.

[temley06]

Trade Rivers to Miami for a first round pick, sign Brees to a long term deal and draft defense. Brees has shown something tangible, Rivers only has potential.

[MikeVic]

you mean like the back of a volkswagen?

Ok, this sounds so familiar to me. Some Kevin Smith movie isn't it? I can picture Randall saying it in Clerks, so I'll say it's from Clerks?

[cthomer5000]

Trade Rivers to Miami for a first round pick, sign Brees to a long term deal and draft defense. Brees has shown something tangible, Rivers only has potential.
Can't do it. That would be over a 12 million cap hit.

Rivers is absolutely untradeable for a few years.

[cthomer5000]

Ok, this sounds so familiar to me. Some Kevin Smith movie isn't it? I can picture Randall saying it in Clerks, so I'll say it's from Clerks?
Ben Aflleck's character Casey in Mallrats. Probably Smith's worst movie, but the one I inexplicably like the best.

[cthomer5000]

Probably the right call on the McCardell TD.

One of the best holdouts in league history?

[Dutch]

Now that is the way Instant Replay is supposed to work.

[Dutch]

Probably the right call on the McCardell TD.

One of the best holdouts in league history?

Ahhh, we should've traded him to KC for Larry Holmes when we had the chance.

[Easy Mac]

Mallrats is easily the best of Kevin Smith's movies.

The line is actually uttered by many people throughout the movie, namely by T.S. Quint and Gil Hicks.

And Affleck's character was named Shannon Hamilton... yes I've seen the movie far too often.

[temley06]

Can't do it. That would be over a 12 million cap hit.

Rivers is absolutely untradeable for a few years.

Hmmm, good point, maybe try a sign and trade with Brees. His value will never be higher.

[timmynausea]

Seattle is out and Homer Glemkin is no more....

10 points to whomever knows where the Homer Glemkin reference comes from.

Sierra Football Pro's fake name for Mike Holmgren, right?

[Dutch]

Do whatever is best for the team. There is nothing saying Rivers can't sit on the bench again next year.

[cthomer5000]

Clarification on Philip Rivers...

The Chargers gave him a 14.25 million dollar bonus on a 6 year deal. That leaves 11.875 million of cap charge hanging out there.

If they traded him before June 1st, they would take a 11.875 million cap hit in 2005.
If they traded him after June 1st, they would take a 5.9375 million cap hit in 2005, and a 5.9375 cap hit in 2006.

In summary, no way they trade him.

Now the question is, what to do with Brees?

The options as I see it:


Let him walk. Public Relations disaster as well as leaving you without an unproven QB (unless we're talking about Doug Flutie)
Franchise him and trade him. You get something for him, but you again leave yourself without an unproven QB and still might piss off the fans.
Franchise him and sign him to a long-term deal. The major drawback is clogging up a ton of money at the QB position between Brees and Rivers. This would probably become unmanageble in 2-3 years. Definitely an option though.
Franchise him, let him try to duplicate his success, then make your decision in 2006. Probably the safest from the team perspective, but he costs you 9 million against the 2005 cap and you have a problem if he holds out.

[cthomer5000]

Now that is the way Instant Replay is supposed to work.I thought so too. Didn't they techinically overrule a judgement call?

edit: I thought you said 'not the way instant replay is supposed to work.'

[cthomer5000]

Yay. 7-7.

Becht: nice work, but you still suck.

[temley06]

Clarification on Philip Rivers...

The Chargers gave him a 14.25 million dollar bonus on a 6 year deal. That leaves 11.875 million of cap charge hanging out there.

If they traded him before June 1st, they would take a 11.875 million cap hit in 2005.
If they traded him after June 1st, they would take a 5.9375 million cap hit in 2005, and a 5.9375 cap hit in 2006.

In summary, no way they trade him.

Now the question is, what to do with Brees?

The options as I see it:


Let him walk. Public Relations disaster as well as leaving you without an unproven QB (unless we're talking about Doug Flutie)
Franchise him and trade him. You get something for him, but you again leave yourself without an unproven QB and still might piss off the fans.
Franchise him and sign him to a long-term deal. The major drawback is clogging up a ton of money at the QB position between Brees and Rivers. This would probably become unmanageble in 2-3 years. Definitely an option though.
Franchise him, let him try to duplicate his success, then make your decision in 2006. Probably the safest from the team perspective, but he costs you 9 million against the 2005 cap and you have a problem if he holds out.


Since when has SD been averse to a little public relations disaster?

[Dutch]

I thought so too. Didn't they techinically overrule a judgement call?

edit: I thought you said 'not the way instant replay is supposed to work.'

I'm pretty sure that possession is reviewable regardless of whether or not the ref said it was bobbled.

[cthomer5000]

Oooh, Oooh.... I'm dreaming of a free kick here.

Stuff them and use those time outs, Jets!!!!

[temley06]

Dick Curl, classic name

[cthomer5000]

fucking Jets.

[SackAttack]

Can somebody explain this "free kick" thing to me? Madden and Michaels didn't do a very good job, and I'm confused.

[cthomer5000]

Can somebody explain this "free kick" thing to me? Madden and Michaels didn't do a very good job, and I'm confused.Any time a fair catch is called, the team recieving the ball has the option of a 'free kick.'

A free kick is the holder, the kicker, and no one else on the field. Other than that it is a regular field goal attempt.

The one super-cool wrinkle is that even if a team fair catches the ball with no time remaining, they are still entitled to a free kick.

Easily my favorite of the obscure rules, and the Jets butchering the clock and not playing defense on 3rd down just cost them a free shot at 3 points.

[temley06]

I'm not sure I have ever seen it in an NFL game. Has anyone?

[SackAttack]

So the reason we don't see that rule pop up very often is because you don't see a lot of fair catches called in field goal territory?

[cthomer5000]

I'm not sure I have ever seen it in an NFL game. Has anyone?
I saw it in one game involving Seattle over 10 years ago.

[temley06]

I saw it in one game involving Seattle over 10 years ago.

Did they hit it?

[cthomer5000]

So the reason we don't see that rule pop up very often is because you don't see a lot of fair catches called in field goal territory?
Exactly. It has to be the combination of getting the ball in decent position and there being no time or almost no time on the clock (no reason to kick otherwise).

[temley06]

Free kicks ought to be added to the wishlist for FOF6.

[cthomer5000]

Did they hit it?
No.

[Dutch]

Did they hit it?

I'd hit it.

[Dutch]

Dola: Sorry, I thought this was the Anna Kornokova thread...

[Dutch]

Nice concentration by Santana Moss!

[temley06]

Nice play, better fake.

[temley06]

Dola: Sorry, I thought this was the Anna Kornokova thread...

LOL

[cthomer5000]

death to Martyball!!!! http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif

[temley06]

Damnit, Jets blew that one.

[cthomer5000]

Oh baby. Let's go Jets! If they can get in the endzone here....

[cthomer5000]

wow. THey just showed Herman Edwards having to be restrained, apparently going after the running backs coach.

[cthomer5000]

Doug Brien, you're going to give me a heart attack.

[temley06]

It is nice to see McCareins get involved. I thought he would have a much better year than he did.

[Ragone]

Good old martyball..

[cthomer5000]

It is nice to see McCareins get involved. I thought he would have a much better year than he did.
Well, the Jets receivers as a whole were kind of MIA this year. Also, I think McCareins had the general 'first year on a new team' effect going for him. Almost every single receiver disappoints in his first year with his team. Year after year.

[temley06]

San Diego is looking like the '99 Colts, worst to first, break through year by the QB and then tank a home playoff game.

[Suicane75]

I wish I wish I had bet this damn game.

[cthomer5000]

bwahahaha! the Jets only had 10 guys on defense the last two plays.

how did the Chargers not take advantage of that?

[Suicane75]

Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.

[temley06]

Wow, what a boneheaded mistake.

[temley06]

Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.

I wish it was still raining.

[TLK]

Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.
noticed that also :)

[temley06]

What are you doing Herm? Punt the damn thing and let your D win it.

[cthomer5000]

Did anyone see that chick in the stands with the white sweater? I mean gawd damn.
:)


The Jets have to punt here... so I expect a pooch punt if they stay in field goal formation. Just way too risky. They only need to think back to last week for an example of how a long field goal attempt can screw you in a close game.

[Suicane75]

Well, no matter what its gonna be 2 tight games today, couldnt ask for more.

[cthomer5000]

Didn't the refs miss an illegal touching call when Brees drilled his own lineman in the head?

[cthomer5000]

I think the Jets are finished if this goes to overtime.

[temley06]

I think the Jets are finished if this goes to overtime.

Yeah, I would say ol' mo' is squarely on the SD side right now.

[Suicane75]

I think the Jets are finished if this goes to overtime.

I would agree.

[Suicane75]

Whoa, i missed that fight on the sidelines, who and why was Herm fighting with?

[cthomer5000]

Didn't the refs miss an illegal touching call when Brees drilled his own lineman in the head?
answering myself. yes they did.

The o-lineman was an ineligble receiver. SHould have been a 5 yard penalty. :mad:

[Suicane75]

answering myself. yes they did.

The o-lineman was an ineligble receiver. SHould have been a 5 yard penalty. :mad:

Sorry didn't see the play. Turbulence is on TNT ya know.
:confused:

[Easy Mac]

FLAG... WHAT!!!

[Suicane75]

Jets are gonna.......

[Easy Mac]

Holy SHIT!!!

[Swaggs]

Wow!

[Easy Mac]

That was a dumb hit

[TLK]

ouch

[Easy Mac]

I don't think he meant it, but still wow

[Suicane75]

Oh My

[temley06]

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

[Swaggs]

Actually looked like a good call, but that is a tough one to make.

[Celeval]

Good call... but wow.

[cthomer5000]

Actually looked like a good call, but that is a tough one to make.
Even as a Jet fan I have to agree. At first I thought it was going to be a total bullshit ticky-tacky call... but he really drilled him with his right arm.

[Easy Mac]

TD.

WOW

[Galaril]

That was a dumb hit

It sure look like he meant it incredibly stupid. Good WORK JETS.

[Suicane75]

OT

[Chubby]

damn! go chargers!

[Swaggs]

God bless the Jets' fans...

[Easy Mac]

XP IS GOOD

[temley06]

Barton=Goat

[TLK]

This has been an excellent day of football..... glad it won't end yet.....

[cthomer5000]

I don't think he meant it, but still wow
Tough to tell. I can't tell weither he was swatting at anything in case the ball was still in his hand, or if it was 100% cheap shot.

Tough to imagine any player would be so stupid as to intentionally throw a cheapshot in there though, given the situation.

[MIJB#19]

Kick return for the td?

[Easy Mac]

Barton=Goat
NY Media=Reaming the Goat in the behind.

[Fouts]

Thank you Eric Barton!

[Celeval]

It looked intentional when it was slow, but the fullspeed replay looked like his arm just wasn't under control and he was just trying to do all he could to get at Brees.

[cthomer5000]

God bless the Jets' fans...
it's our lot in life.

[Suicane75]

WTF is Madden talking about? They go until someone wins?
Nevermind, i see what is he saying.

[cthomer5000]

The Jets have to win the toss to have a chance here.

[cthomer5000]

WTF is Madden talking about? They go until someone wins?
Nevermind, i see what is he saying.
Yeah, but they go as long as it takes and the rules are a bit different. He was just trying to highlight that.

[cthomer5000]

The Jets have to win the toss to have a chance here.
Chargers win the toss.

I see them rolling down the field and winning with a field goal. The Jets just seem worn out on defense.

[Easy Mac]

WTF is Madden talking about? They go until someone wins?
I'm pretty sure Madden doesn't know what he's talking about. if they could just let him go and just import phrases from Madden 99 everything would be ok.

BOOM Tough Actin' Tinactin.

[Suicane75]

Yeah, but they go as long as it takes and the rules are a bit different. He was just trying to highlight that.

Yeah, i just jump at the chance to think he's senile. :D

I still love listening to him though.

[temley06]

Damn, those were the wrong fans to have their shirts off, what about the white sweater?

[Suicane75]

Erik Barton 45 yard interception return for a TD. Im calling it right now. heh.

[Suicane75]

Damn, those were the wrong fans to have their shirts off, what about the white sweater?

I mean, Gawd Damn!

[cthomer5000]

Well, the one positive for me is the fact that I'll win money as long as the game doesn't end on a safety. I would love to combine it with a Jets win though.

[Swaggs]

What was the spread?

[spleen1015]

Go for it!

[spleen1015]

Sissies!

[Suicane75]

What was the spread?

-7 At around gametime.

[cthomer5000]

What was the spread?
It was -7, but I teased the Jets with the over. So i win as long as I get:

Jets +13
Over 36

[cthomer5000]

my Jets fan prediction: they fumble the punt return

[MIJB#19]

Chargers go for it?

[Swaggs]

If the Chargers don't touch the ball again, that call is going to get a lot of crap until next season.

[MIJB#19]

The New York Jets are cursed.

[robbgmaier]

can we get a pic of the chick in the white sweater?

[MIJB#19]

no pxs pls tnx

[cthomer5000]

The New York Jets are cursed.
It's a distinct possibility.

Herm, who not use a timeout earlier when your defense is obviously exhausted and just getting killed?

No, wait until they're in field goal range instead.

[Eagle458]

can we get a pic of the chick in the white sweater?
That would be nice.

[MIJB#19]

It's a distinct possibility.

Herm, who not use a timeout earlier when your defense is obviously exhausted and just getting killed?

No, wait until they're in field goal range instead.Gotto give the opponent time to regroup and punch the knockout...

[robbgmaier]

I think a missed FG here would just be priceless....but that's because I'd rather have the Jets come to pittsburgh than san diego..

[Swaggs]

I want this game to last forever, so they are tired for Pittsburgh.

[MIJB#19]

I think a missed FG here would just be priceless....but that's because I'd rather have the Jets come to pittsburgh than san diego..Sadly for that, Doug Brien sits on the Jets roster and Nate Keading kicks for SD.

[robbgmaier]

I don't think Herm will be getting a letter from the commisioner this week.....heh heh heh.....

[robbgmaier]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have found our goat.

[Suicane75]

Oh that poor son of a bitch.

[Swaggs]

Nobody wants to win this game.

[temley06]

Wow, maybe that picture of Scifries cursed him

[MIJB#19]

I stand corrected.

[cthomer5000]

whooooooooooooooooooo!!

[cthomer5000]

Wow, maybe that picture of Scifries cursed him
lol. I noticed that too.

[temley06]

This is turning into a goat rodeo

[robbgmaier]

drop


edit - ok, now i think it was caught

[JAG]

That was a great blitz pickup by Martin.

[cthomer5000]

That was a great blitz pickup by Martin.
absolutely.

and I think that is a catch by Moss.

[temley06]

Or maybe it was Scott Norwood?

[Bomber]

Didn't look like a catch to me.

[robbgmaier]

I hope they at least get a chance to change ends

[MIJB#19]

Is the spirit back or something after that missed kick?

[JAG]

Poor Marty.

[robbgmaier]

maybe the fans will throw some D batteries at the kicker

[cthomer5000]

oh come on!

[Swaggs]

Buy that man a beer.

[Easy Mac]

Good Night Folks

[MIJB#19]

Doug Brien making up for the missed kick last week.

[CHEMICAL SOLDIER]

That's the ball game!

[cthomer5000]

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[temley06]

And Barton transfers the goat mantle to Kaeding. Great game.

[TLK]

congrats to the Jets fans... great day of football

[SackAttack]

Or maybe it was Scott Norwood?

Ike Settles. :D

(Sorry, Quik!)

[MIJB#19]

Sadly for that, Doug Brien sits on the Jets roster and Nate Keading kicks for SD.Did I just jinx the whole game there?

[cthomer5000]

congrats to the Jets fans... great day of football
This has always been my favorite weekend of football. Couldn't have asked for a much better day 1. Especially with a Jet win with maximum drama.

[Francis_Cole]

Amzaing game.
I'm not going to get to sleep now :D. oh wait, its morning :(

[SirFozzie]

the goat of that game is Schottenheimer, 40 Yarders are no gimme, wet field, rookie kicker? Grow a set, Marty.

[stevew]

the goat of that game is Schottenheimer, 40 Yarders are no gimme, wet field, rookie kicker? Grow a set, Marty.


Yeah, for real, actually *try* for the endzone at least once? And in the history of me watching football, i cant recall one instance where kicking on 3rd down was actually beneficial. Can anyone else?

[cthomer5000]

Yeah, for real, actually *try* for the endzone at least once? And in the history of me watching football, i cant recall one instance where kicking on 3rd down was actually beneficial. Can anyone else?
I do think that 'conventinal logic' is the goat here. When you're carving through a defense, why not just keep going?

And no, I don't ever recall an instance where a kick on 3rd down actually benefitted anyone. I was just thinking how awesome a *fake* field goal on 3rd down would be though. No way anyone would see it coming in such a situation (when the game is on the line).

[EagleFan]

Yeah, for real, actually *try* for the endzone at least once? And in the history of me watching football, i cant recall one instance where kicking on 3rd down was actually beneficial. Can anyone else?


Once, I forget who it was but ther was a bad snap and while the holder wasn't able to throw the ball away he did eat it for a loss but still well within range for the kick on 4th down.

Shottenheimer cost his team that game. What the hell is up with three straight ultra conservative calls that are going nowhere to lead to a 4th down field goal attempt that was no closer than 1st down. Hell, lets make the rookie kicker try one from 40 instead of maybe trying to knock that down to 30. He should be used to this kind of pressure, right?

With that idiotic play by Barton at the end of the game it would have been oh so sweet to see the Chargers win that game.

[Suicane75]

I do think that 'conventinal logic' is the goat here. When you're carving through a defense, why not just keep going?

And no, I don't ever recall an instance where a kick on 3rd down actually benefitted anyone. I was just thinking how awesome a *fake* field goal on 3rd down would be though. No way anyone would see it coming in such a situation (when the game is on the line).

And when the holder or kicker gets sacked 10 yards back or throws an interception, how awesome would that be? :D

[QuikSand]

Ike Settles. :D

(Sorry, Quik!)

*sigh*

[EagleFan]

Oh, and I can think of an Eagles/Cowboys game where I would have loved to see just one more down for the Eagles on a field goal attempt.

[cthomer5000]

And when the holder or kicker gets sacked 10 yards back or throws an interception, how awesome would that be? :D
I was thinking more of a run where the kicker takes it, kind of sweeping around. :)

[jetpunk2000]

Wow...I just got back in and figured I'd read the thread. Remind me to never use you guys for picks. :p

[ISiddiqui]

HAHA... the Chargers fall to the Jets. I just remember no one giving the Jets any respect (neither did I, I confess), especially with the talk of Pennington's arm sucking, etc. What a good game.

[henry296]

Yeah, for real, actually *try* for the endzone at least once? And in the history of me watching football, i cant recall one instance where kicking on 3rd down was actually beneficial. Can anyone else?

It worked in the NAIA championship game this year. Bad snap and the holder spiked the ball. Next play winning field goal.

Todd

[Celeval]

Yeah, for real, actually *try* for the endzone at least once? And in the history of me watching football, i cant recall one instance where kicking on 3rd down was actually beneficial. Can anyone else?
Georgia - Georgia Tech, back in... er... 2000? The "Jaspar Thanks" game. Winning FG attempt in OT on third down. Tech lines up for the FG, Georgia blocks it but the ball stays behind the line - George Godsey (holder) catches the block in the air, advances the ball a few yards. Fourth down kick is good, ballgame.

[cthomer5000]

HAHA... the Chargers fall to the Jets. I just remember no one giving the Jets any respect (neither did I, I confess), especially with the talk of Pennington's arm sucking, etc. What a good game.
I have to say I really nailed how this game would play out. I said that both defenses would keep the running backs in check, leaving it up to QB vs. QB. They both played good enough that the game came down to special teams.

[Buccaneer]

:(

[TLK]

I plan on watching both games, but will keep my money, in my pocket today. I think both favorites will win, but not sure if either will cover. Any thoughts?

[cthomer5000]

I plan on watching both games, but will keep my money, in my pocket today. I think both favorites will win, but not sure if either will cover. Any thoughts?
thoughts on betting?

I think i'm going to tease the favorite and the over in both games. I don't know about 10, but I like Indy -3 with an Over of 48.5. I don't see either of those not happening. Same thing with the late game.

[gstelmack]

the goat of that game is Schottenheimer, 40 Yarders are no gimme, wet field, rookie kicker? Grow a set, Marty.
Not only that, but the last play put them on the right hashmark, instead of dead in the middle of the field. Set it up in the middle for the easiest kick possible, and that one is good by a large margin.

[cthomer5000]

Not only that, but the last play put them on the right hashmark, instead of dead in the middle of the field. Set it up in the middle for the easiest kick possible, and that one is good by a large margin.
We don't know, but I imagine they would have asked the kicker where he wanted the ball, since they basically could have put it anywhere they wanted to.

[TLK]

thoughts on betting?

I think i'm going to tease the favorite and the over in both games. I don't know about 10, but I like Indy -3 with an Over of 48.5. I don't see either of those not happening. Same thing with the late game.
Where do you place your bets? I know that Bodog doesn't allow the over/under to be teased.