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kcchief19

01-10-2005, 07:18 PM

I'll give it a shot. The miniseries was better than I expected. I was a huge fan of the original series -- I have the DVD set as well. I think the concept is different enough that you don't find yourself comparing the two that much. The miniseries had some weaknesses (the "Apollo" replacement character Lee was a horrible actor) and the dialogue was a waste of the talents of Olmos and McDonnell. Of course, you could say the same about Lorne Greene.

On the bright side, Starbuck is a hottie in a tom-girl sort of way and the female cylon has got something going on.

CamEdwards

01-10-2005, 07:39 PM

what channel is this on? sci-fi? and isn't richard hatch from survivor? are there reality show contestnts that have now made the move to "real" acting?

Qwikshot

01-10-2005, 07:41 PM

Wait, Orren Hatch is in this?

bosshogg23

01-10-2005, 08:05 PM

I will be watching. My step daughter went to the movies yesterday and they gave her a free dvd of the mini-series Sci-Fi had. I enjoyed it and hope they can do some more of the same(ie better than Stargate).

CHEMICAL SOLDIER

01-10-2005, 08:27 PM

I thought I saw the DVD of the new one on DVD at Wal Mart. Am I missing something.

bosshogg23

01-10-2005, 08:33 PM

The "new miniseries" dvd is on sale for $15-$25.

The dvd my step daughter got has promotional stamped on it but it is the legit miniseries. One of the theater employees said they have been given out the past week and will be given out this week to promote the new series.

sachmo71

01-10-2005, 08:54 PM

I'm watching. Sweet.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER

01-10-2005, 08:58 PM

Now I bet in a few months there will be a tie in game of some sort.

Fonzie

01-10-2005, 09:16 PM

The miniseries was a lot better than I expected. I'll be watching.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER

01-10-2005, 09:23 PM

I'll be watching it. Hope that the acting is good.

Marc Vaughan

01-11-2005, 03:46 AM

Been watching it for a few months now (its been on Sky in the UK for a while) .... it rocks, think of a grown up version of BSG, similar to the difference between Next Gen Star Trek and the original ....

The first two episodes especially are amazing imho :D

cincyreds

01-11-2005, 05:22 AM

Got it Tivo'd up and ready to go.

Season pass also setup.

bbor

01-11-2005, 12:21 PM

I was a HUGE fan of the original series....i have the box set and it is almost worn out.I gave the new one a try thinking there was no way i'd like it....but it was great.

I will be watching for sure on Friday.

tanglewood

01-11-2005, 12:23 PM

As another UK resident, I can confirm that it is indeed very very good. Highly recomended viewing for any sci-fi fan.

Desnudo

01-12-2005, 08:12 PM

I caught part 1 of 2 of the miniseries last night. I thought it was very good, especially for TV. Some weak spots, but overall it was fun to watch. I'm looking forward to part 2 tonight.

KWhit

01-12-2005, 08:14 PM

The dialogue in the miniseries is awful, but I really like the camera work in the battle scenes. Very documentary style, and unique.

Desnudo

01-12-2005, 08:18 PM

The dialogue in the miniseries is awful, but I really like the camera work in the battle scenes. Very documentary style, and unique.

That's basically what I thought too. I have a soft spot for the show since I loved it growing up. I always loved the exterior ship scenes. The acting, well, it is a Sci-Fi miniseries.

KWhit

01-12-2005, 08:20 PM

Yeah, what's up with the word "Frak?"

"Frak You!"

"What the frak!"

Oh, frak me!"

Fonzie

01-12-2005, 08:25 PM

Yeah, what's up with the word "Frak?"

"Frak You!"

"What the frak!"

Oh, frak me!"

Isn't that a nod to the old series? I seem to remember them using that as a "profanity."

Glengoyne

01-12-2005, 08:47 PM

Isn't that a nod to the old series? I seem to remember them using that as a "profanity."
Who the Frell cares one Ghorram bit about Frak?!?

Oh and I am recording the miniseries as I type. If I had joined the new millenium I would have Tivo'd it and be watching now.

KWhit

01-12-2005, 08:51 PM

I'm Tivo-ing it now. (Actually I'm Comcast DVR-ing it) :)

And I don't really remember the old series that much.

jbmagic

01-12-2005, 10:15 PM

are they doing the same script word for word for each episode like the original but just new actors and actress?

bosshogg23

01-12-2005, 10:17 PM

No it is a different script with new actors/actresses.

Fonzie

01-12-2005, 10:18 PM

are they doing the same script word for word for each episode like the original but just new actors and actress?

No - the premise of the show and the main characters are the same, but the plots and scripts are all new (to the best of my knowledge).

jbmagic

01-12-2005, 10:35 PM

cool , so the characters name is all the same like the original..

i really like the original when they found los angeles and did the episodes there

bosshogg23

01-12-2005, 10:40 PM

One of the characters is now a girl instead of a guy. Thats about the only major character difference I have heard people talk about. I never watched the original so it didnt affect me.

sachmo71

01-13-2005, 08:09 AM

One of the characters is now a girl instead of a guy. Thats about the only major character difference I have heard people talk about. I never watched the original so it didnt affect me.

More than one, actually. Starbuck and Boomer are now girls. Actually, Boomer has other skeletons in the closet.

Glengoyne- Browncoat geek! :D

Wolfpack

01-13-2005, 11:48 AM

Actually, they've done a number of changes to the series. The essential underlying world is similar (12 colonies, humans vs. cylons, Galactica, a lot of the characters), but the chrome is a lot different (much more "Earth-like" civilization that seems like it's only somewhat in advance of our world, aside from space flight capabilities, a civilian governing presence that tussles with the military, some cylons are human infiltrators like Terminators, "Apollo" and "Starbuck" are not actual names, but callsigns, Baltar is not a true villain but is being manipulated by the Cylons, etc).

I think I read somewhere that they were going to spend a few episodes actually back on Caprica following survivors who didn't get to evacuate. Sounds like a grisly notion, especially if the Cylons come and start setting up extermination camps for those who survived the attacks.

Desnudo

01-13-2005, 12:05 PM

I think I read somewhere that they were going to spend a few episodes actually back on Caprica following survivors who didn't get to evacuate. Sounds like a grisly notion, especially if the Cylons come and start setting up extermination camps for those who survived the attacks.

I wouldn't be suprised since they left that guy behind in the first leg of the miniseries. I'd hope for more space battles and less standing around and looking serious or contemplative though.

One plot point I found hilarious is that there are only 12 human looking cylon models. I guess they ran a little short on the special effects budget.

Thomkal

01-13-2005, 12:06 PM

I'll be watching, but interestingly enough its up against some real science as the Science channel has the landing of the probe on Saturn's moon Titan live at the same time. The Sci-Fi channel also seems to be running some Battlestar 1980 marathon during the day tomorrow.

RendeR

01-13-2005, 12:14 PM

Dear god don't watch battlestar 1980, I don't think I've ever watched a more hideously aweful TV show....

I must say I LOVE the new series/miniseries. it adds a harsh reality-vision to what was originally an amazing storyline. The characters, while very rough right now, look to be easily fleshed out as the show grows. Like any new series it will take a few episodes to develop them into really lovable characters.

Can I get a #6 to go please? *druuuulllzzz*

Glengoyne

01-13-2005, 02:55 PM

I watched the miniseries last night. I liked it, but perhaps my hopes were a bit high, because I didn't enjoy it as much as those who told me about it. I should have gone in with zero expectations, then I probably would have loved it.

I'll be watching the premiere on Friday though. It is apparently fantastic!! Damnit there I go again.

Oh and Sachmo. I do admit when I bought my latest Trench coat, I went with brown to recognize the demise of the series.

sachmo71

01-13-2005, 02:59 PM

Wolfpack

01-13-2005, 09:08 PM

One plot point I found hilarious is that there are only 12 human looking cylon models. I guess they ran a little short on the special effects budget.

It does seem to lend itself to limitations, doesn't it? I think the humans only figure out two of the models in the miniseries (the one trapped with Adama inside the base and the one Baltar picked out). That leaves ten more, though I think we have only seen a couple others (Boomer and Number Six), which leaves eight more for the audience to uncover. Plus, I would assume the Cylons would produce new models at some point if they start running out of infiltrators that can hide their identity.

Desnudo

01-14-2005, 02:55 AM

It does seem to lend itself to limitations, doesn't it? I think the humans only figure out two of the models in the miniseries (the one trapped with Adama inside the base and the one Baltar picked out). That leaves ten more, though I think we have only seen a couple others (Boomer and Number Six), which leaves eight more for the audience to uncover. Plus, I would assume the Cylons would produce new models at some point if they start running out of infiltrators that can hide their identity.

Is Boomer the Asian pilot chick? For some reason I see that one getting drawn out a seriously, and painfully, long time. Like possibly until the last episode. It just has that vibe. ;)

Marc Vaughan

01-14-2005, 06:08 AM

I wouldn't be suprised since they left that guy behind in the first leg of the miniseries. I'd hope for more space battles and less standing around and looking serious or contemplative though.
Some pretty cool battles in the last episode I watched :D

One plot point I found hilarious is that there are only 12 human looking cylon models. I guess they ran a little short on the special effects budget.
I think the idea is simply to prevent it becoming a human vs 'looking human' war which would mean the audience might stop seeing the bad guys as being so 'bad' ...

There have been some nice DS-9 style philosophy and thought-provoking stuff in it so far :D

sachmo71

01-14-2005, 08:25 AM

One plot point I found hilarious is that there are only 12 human looking cylon models. I guess they ran a little short on the special effects budget.

The Cylons were using the infiltrators to carry out specific missions. They expected to kill all of the humans, so why would they need more?

jbmagic

01-14-2005, 08:55 AM

wasnt the original series, last season based when they found earth and live in los angeles?

Bonegavel

01-15-2005, 09:05 AM

I enjoyed the mini-series greatly and saw the 2 episodes last night and I really like the show. I would have much preferred that sci-fi pick up firefly, but this isn't a bad substitute at all. Very well done.

Marc Vaughan

01-15-2005, 09:47 AM

wasnt the original series, last season based when they found earth and live in los angeles?
Yeah - I loved the original series, although I've a feeling watching it again through adult eyes might be painful ;)

(bit like noticing the strings on the old Flash Gordon saturday morning shows)

Fonzie

01-15-2005, 12:08 PM

Yeah - I loved the original series, although I've a feeling watching it again through adult eyes might be painful ;)

(bit like noticing the strings on the old Flash Gordon saturday morning shows)

I've seen a few episodes of the old series and can confirm your suspicions. Better to hold on to those childhood memories than have them shattered by revisiting the old series.

Fonzie

01-15-2005, 12:09 PM

Dola-

I also enjoyed the two episodes last night. They're off to a solid start, methinks.

Wolfpack

01-15-2005, 12:48 PM

Desnudo

01-15-2005, 01:41 PM

The Cylons were using the infiltrators to carry out specific missions. They expected to kill all of the humans, so why would they need more?

Umm maybe because they wouldn't get everyone all at once and once a model is seen, it then becomes useless? :p

Desnudo

01-15-2005, 01:45 PM

They were pretty good, though I'm still a bit puzzled by the determination of Number Six to force Baltar to "repent" for his sin of not believing in God. Not entirely sure what it all meant and whether it was commentary on contemporary religion or anything. Also, anyone notice that she always used God in the singular while all the humans referenced God in plural (Gods, Lords of Kobol, etc)?

I think it is, they don't seem to try to hide it. I seem to remember those ideas were part of the original too. It sounds like pagans and atheists (humans) vs. the true children of God (cylons).

RendeR

01-15-2005, 02:12 PM

wasnt the original series, last season based when they found earth and live in los angeles?

No actually, Galactica 1980 was a few years later, after the original had died a swift and horrible death. !980 was just awful and honestly should be burned and its ashed used as a sacrifice to the Sci-Fi gods. Its embarrassing to think about, let alone admit that I ever watched it.

The original series only ran about 1.5 seasons and started off with a storyline that the new mini-series used as a blue print to start from. From here, who knows where they will go with it though, as the new series is not following the old one as far as the storyline goes beyond the basic, anihilation and refugee running away plot.

Coffee Warlord

01-15-2005, 02:14 PM

I really wish Sci-Fi would show their good stuff on a day other than Friday. S'my drinking night, dammit.

Desnudo

01-15-2005, 02:26 PM

Looks like they rerun it twice on Sunday.

Fonzie

01-15-2005, 04:09 PM

Galactica 1980 was an abomination that must never be spoken of again.

Glengoyne

01-15-2005, 05:14 PM

I enjoyed the two episodes last night. I would have ratted out the Mad Cylon Bomber, even if I was doing her on the side.

As for the Repent and God stuff, I just thought that the Cylons considered their leader God. It had never occured to me that the Machines had gotten religion and had risen up against the humans for their unbelief. Maybe that is the idea.

sachmo71

01-15-2005, 07:58 PM

Really enjoyed the series. Very much. 33 minutes, again and again and again. Kinda creepy! :)

Chief Rum

01-16-2005, 05:34 AM

I really wish Sci-Fi would show their good stuff on a day other than Friday. S'my drinking night, dammit.

Drink in front of the TV.

jbmagic

01-16-2005, 12:40 PM

i like galactica 80 .....too bad it got cancel after 10 episodes

CHEMICAL SOLDIER

01-16-2005, 02:04 PM

i like galactica 80 .....too bad it got cancel after 10 episodes

Reminds me of a FOX series called Space: Above & Beyond.

sachmo71

01-18-2005, 11:13 AM

From Ron Moore's blog...

Why 33 minutes?

The truth is, there's no real answer. It's just a random number that felt right when I came up with the idea that our people were under continuous, relentless attack since the end of the pilot. I wanted it to be a short interval, just long enough for them to grab a bite to eat, jump in the shower and maybe try to catch a catnap before dragging themselves back to their duty stations and begin the whole tedious, terrifying ordeal all over again.

A deeper truth is, I was never interested in coming up with an explanation for Why? Never. I mean, I suppose I could've come up with a sufficiently important-sounding bit of technobabble that would've made sense (you see, the Cylon double-talk sensors tracking the Olympic Carrier's nonsense drive signature needed 15 minutes to relay the made-up data wave through the pretend continuum, then the Cylon navigational hyper silly system needed another 10 minutes to recalculate the flux capacitor, etc.) but what would that have really added to the drama? How does explaining that 33 minute interval help our understanding of Laura's terrible moment of decision, or bring us to any greater knowledge of Dualla's search for her missing family and friends, or yield insight into Baltar's morally shattered psyche?

It doesn't, of course. The answer, however artfully it may (or may not) have been crafted can only subtract from the experience we have in watching the episode. Not knowing the how's or why's of the Cylon attack puts us in the same seat as the characters we're watching. They're in the dark, and we're in the dark. The relentless attack is unfathomable in its origin and unstoppable in its execution. It's mortality coming at you on a loop. If you only had 33 minutes before the next time you could die, what would you do? And what about the time after that? And the time after that? At a certain point, you stop caring about why it's happening, all you know is that it is happening, and it's happening to you.

So the mystery of 33 will be permanent on this show. No explanation, not even the attempt. Let it just be a number that seemed like an eternity for five long days on the battlestar Galactica.

I say well done! :)

Crapshoot

01-18-2005, 11:22 AM

I just caught both episodes on Sunday- looks pretty damn good. I would have ratted out the bomber as well- one would hope when the fate of human civilization is at stake, one's able to think with the upper brain, as opposed to the lower one.. :D

cougarfreak

01-18-2005, 02:32 PM

I enjoyed it. I'd hit boomer.

Bonegavel

01-19-2005, 10:59 AM

Definitely a series worth watching. SG1 has gone supah stale and the Atlantis series is ho-hum. Since they couldn't/wouldn't grab Firefly, I'll take this as a good second.

flere-imsaho

01-19-2005, 11:13 AM

They were pretty good, though I'm still a bit puzzled by the determination of Number Six to force Baltar to "repent" for his sin of not believing in God.

Here's my take on this:

#6 is more than just a waking nightmare for Balthar. #6 is a construct lodged within his head that is a) becoming a bit unhinged and b) has some sort of ability to influence events around it.

It's possible that all #6s are a bit unhinged. The #6's actions towards Helo on Caprica weren't exactly easy to explain.

Great start to the series, though. I'm curious as to how far their jump capability is, though. Initially I thought it was quite limited, and it would take them years to go from system to system. However, in "Water", they're clearly able to go from system to system in a matter of minutes. If this is the case, given the vastness of space, why not just jump out of the galaxy. Even the Cylons couldn't hunt down all the permutations.

Coffee Warlord

01-19-2005, 11:34 AM

I enjoyed it. I'd hit boomer.

There's a special place for my penis for the engineering chick.

Desnudo

01-19-2005, 03:00 PM

Here's my take on this:

#6 is more than just a waking nightmare for Balthar. #6 is a construct lodged within his head that is a) becoming a bit unhinged and b) has some sort of ability to influence events around it.

It's possible that all #6s are a bit unhinged. The #6's actions towards Helo on Caprica weren't exactly easy to explain.

Great start to the series, though. I'm curious as to how far their jump capability is, though. Initially I thought it was quite limited, and it would take them years to go from system to system. However, in "Water", they're clearly able to go from system to system in a matter of minutes. If this is the case, given the vastness of space, why not just jump out of the galaxy. Even the Cylons couldn't hunt down all the permutations.

That it would be an easy to way to end the series after one episode is probably why they do not.

Desnudo

01-19-2005, 03:04 PM

From Ron Moore's blog...

Quote:

Why 33 minutes?

The truth is, there's no real answer. It's just a random number that felt right when I came up with the idea that our people were under continuous, relentless attack since the end of the pilot. I wanted it to be a short interval, just long enough for them to grab a bite to eat, jump in the shower and maybe try to catch a catnap before dragging themselves back to their duty stations and begin the whole tedious, terrifying ordeal all over again.

A deeper truth is, I was never interested in coming up with an explanation for Why? Never. I mean, I suppose I could've come up with a sufficiently important-sounding bit of technobabble that would've made sense (you see, the Cylon double-talk sensors tracking the Olympic Carrier's nonsense drive signature needed 15 minutes to relay the made-up data wave through the pretend continuum, then the Cylon navigational hyper silly system needed another 10 minutes to recalculate the flux capacitor, etc.) but what would that have really added to the drama? How does explaining that 33 minute interval help our understanding of Laura's terrible moment of decision, or bring us to any greater knowledge of Dualla's search for her missing family and friends, or yield insight into Baltar's morally shattered psyche?

It doesn't, of course. The answer, however artfully it may (or may not) have been crafted can only subtract from the experience we have in watching the episode. Not knowing the how's or why's of the Cylon attack puts us in the same seat as the characters we're watching. They're in the dark, and we're in the dark. The relentless attack is unfathomable in its origin and unstoppable in its execution. It's mortality coming at you on a loop. If you only had 33 minutes before the next time you could die, what would you do? And what about the time after that? And the time after that? At a certain point, you stop caring about why it's happening, all you know is that it is happening, and it's happening to you.

So the mystery of 33 will be permanent on this show. No explanation, not even the attempt. Let it just be a number that seemed like an eternity for five long days on the battlestar Galactica.

For someone reason this in-depth explaination makes me think of that Xena episode on the Simpsons:

Lawless: ... but I'm sure that once girls get to know the
real you, you'll get plenty of dates. Next
question.

Frink: Yes, over here, n'hey, n'hey. In episode BF12, you
were battling barbarians while riding a winged
Appaloosa, yet in the very next scene, my dear,
you're clearly atop a winged Arabian. Please do
explain it.

cougarfreak

01-21-2005, 09:14 PM

That's the original Apollo as the terrorist, is it not?

Fonzie

01-21-2005, 09:34 PM

That's the original Apollo as the terrorist, is it not?

Yes indeed - Richard Hatch.

cougarfreak

01-21-2005, 09:49 PM

Yes indeed - Richard Hatch.

Thought so.......I was just a pup when the original show was on, and I haven't seem much of it since.

sachmo71

01-23-2005, 07:39 AM

Good episode. I now am convinced that Ty is Starbucks daddy. In the real way, not the Franklinnoble way.

cougarfreak

01-23-2005, 07:39 AM

Has anyone read the battlestar galactica books? Didn't know there were any till I looked on Amazon yesterday.

sachmo71

01-23-2005, 08:58 AM

Has anyone read the battlestar galactica books? Didn't know there were any till I looked on Amazon yesterday. I had a comic book of the old show...

cougarfreak

01-23-2005, 09:40 AM

I had a comic book of the old show...

I found a complete list of books on Amazon, just wondering if they were any good.

kcchief19

01-23-2005, 01:01 PM

i like galactica 80 .....too bad it got cancel after 10 episodes I was a big fan of the original series and have the collector's set on DVD that I enjoy greatly ... but Galactica 1980 was indeed an abomination. I'm worried about you. :)

sachmo71

01-23-2005, 09:11 PM

I found a complete list of books on Amazon, just wondering if they were any good.
I looked at them, and it looks like they are all centered around the original series. If they are written by Richard Hatch, they probably have decent stories, because he was the one carrying the torch for the show all there years. Not sure how good of a writer he is, so I can't comment on that.

RendeR

01-24-2005, 12:42 AM

I positively LOVE this new series, they took a great idea that was the original show(which the network fucked in the arse) and took it 10000 times better. Its got a gritty realism that just thrills me. its got enough sub-plots to make daytime SOAPS jealous, and the special effects are first rate.

The more I see this, the sooner I want the season 1 DVD in my hot little DVD player....

gotta be a better way to say that..but fuck it....no wait......awe hell nevermind.

DAMN FINE SHOW.

Kodos

02-09-2005, 12:56 PM

Say, I missed the pilot and an episode or two. What's the deal with the blonde that only the scientist can see?

Desnudo

02-09-2005, 12:58 PM

She's a Cylon AI that's implanted in his brain.

Kodos

02-09-2005, 12:59 PM

I knew those dirty cyclons had to be behind her. Just didn't know what exactly she was.

Anyone else prefer the old Cylon raider ships? And the old cylons?

Fonzie

02-09-2005, 01:16 PM

I knew those dirty cyclons had to be behind her. Just didn't know what exactly she was.

Anyone else prefer the old Cylon raider ships? And the old cylons?

You actually get to see an old Cylon in the pilot episode. They've had some nice nods to the old series scattered here and there.

There's a BG marathon coming up this weekend (I think), so you'll have an opportunity to catch the episodes you've missed.

Coffee Warlord

02-09-2005, 01:21 PM

Got see enjoy the marathon run last night, saw the episodes I had missed.

Very, very nice. We're not up to Bab5 quality as far as characters go, but they are mostly developing very well.

Desnudo

02-09-2005, 01:24 PM

Got see enjoy the marathon run last night, saw the episodes I had missed.

Very, very nice. We're not up to Bab5 quality as far as characters go, but they are mostly developing very well.

Some of the characters need to be killed off before they develop any more. I'd like to see Apollo disappear. Maybe replaced with a Cylon that's a better actor. Unfortunately it doesn't look likely to happen anytime soon.

Coffee Warlord

02-09-2005, 01:42 PM

That was actually the minority I was referring to when I said 'mostly'. I'm not sure whether Apollo's actor can't act, or he's just written poorly.

But yeah. I don't care for his character. The Commander (tm) is the shit, however.

sachmo71

02-09-2005, 02:03 PM

is this new Battlestar Galactica better than the original?
yes. recommend checking out the miniseries first, to get a taste and see the background story.

jbmagic

02-09-2005, 02:04 PM

is this new Battlestar Galactica better than the original?

Galaril

02-10-2005, 09:24 AM

Word is Battlestar Galactica has been picked up for another season.

BucDawg40

02-10-2005, 09:47 AM

is this new Battlestar Galactica better than the original?

By far. Although I enjoyed the original as a kid, it was pure cheese. This one is a much more character-driven drama.

Fonzie

02-10-2005, 10:21 AM

Word is Battlestar Galactica has been picked up for another season.

Already? Wow. Good for them.

And I agree with the sentiments about Apollo - something needs to be done with his character. I'm inclined to think he's just not written well and needs to be given more of a chance for the writers to figure out what they want to do with him. Right now he's not very interesting, and about the only thing that differentiates him from every other generic officer walking around in the background is that he tends to be a bit more gentle and thoughtful (e.g., reevaluating bad decisions, attempting to reason with cranky/insubordinate pilots, facilitating the relationship between the President and Adama, etc.). That's an interesting aspect to a character, but it can't be the only interesting aspect. He needs something more.

Like hardcore midget sex. That would help.

Aylmar

02-10-2005, 12:45 PM

So I've heard enough good things (here and from others) that I want to start watching this series. I ordered the mini-series on DVD and plan on recording the episodes starting tomorrow night. I hope I don't get lost trying to pick it up at the fifth episode...

Desnudo

02-10-2005, 12:51 PM

Already? Wow. Good for them.

And I agree with the sentiments about Apollo - something needs to be done with his character. I'm inclined to think he's just not written well and needs to be given more of a chance for the writers to figure out what they want to do with him. Right now he's not very interesting, and about the only thing that differentiates him from every other generic officer walking around in the background is that he tends to be a bit more gentle and thoughtful (e.g., reevaluating bad decisions, attempting to reason with cranky/insubordinate pilots, facilitating the relationship between the President and Adama, etc.). That's an interesting aspect to a character, but it can't be the only interesting aspect. He needs something more.

Like hardcore midget sex. That would help.

I'd like to see him behave a little bit more like a commanding officer and a little bit less like an intergalactic metrosexual. That's the one thing that truly bothers me about his character. He's supposed to be this hotshot pilot and great leader. I have trouble seeing how anyone would follow him anywhere.

RendeR

02-10-2005, 08:25 PM

Apollo's personality is a bit of a throwback to the original. Apollo is supposed to be a great pilot and all around stand up guy. In the original series he was an utter "goodie goodie" and it was taken way too far, in this series he's still supposed to be that (catch the episode with richard hatch, he stands up for the "law" against both Commander Adama and the President). I think his character is written too stiff right now to try and drag out the relationship problems between himself and the commander. I think in time he'll become one of the most popular characters as he was in the original (back before we knew any better) =)

Ren

TazFTW

02-10-2005, 09:13 PM

The show needs more muffit. :)

BucDawg40

02-10-2005, 09:27 PM

The show needs more muffit. :)

Yes -- and more cowbell as well!

sachmo71

02-10-2005, 09:46 PM

The show needs more muffit. :)
You will now be shot out of the airlock.

Schmidty

02-10-2005, 09:57 PM

Haven't watched this show, and I haven't watched this new version, but I felt like commenting that some of my fondest childhood memories are of playing a a BG character named Zack (or something) on the playground. It was 4th grade and we were only obsessed with it for like 2-3 weeks (when we discovered Voltron), but it had a huge effect on me for some unknown reason.

sachmo71

02-10-2005, 10:14 PM

Didn't Voltron come out years after BSG ended? Man I'm old!

kcchief19

02-10-2005, 10:17 PM

Odd. Zac, played brilliantly by the legendary Rick Springfield, was killed off in about the first 10 minutes of the three hour pilot.

I have wasted my life.

jbmagic

02-11-2005, 12:36 AM

anybody know when there going to run the mini series and all regular season shows that been aired already again?

i miss them and want to see it in order so i can be caught up.

thANKS

flere-imsaho

02-11-2005, 08:54 AM

The miniseries is available on DVD, by the way. :)

Wolfpack

02-11-2005, 10:27 AM

Didn't Voltron come out years after BSG ended? Man I'm old!

Probably, but I know in my area, my first encounters with BSG were in syndication after I got home from school. I never saw the original series run as I would have been about 2 or 3.

I think another TV station carried the afternoon cartoons like Voltron, Transformers, and GI Joe, so it's not unlikely at all.

KWhit

02-20-2005, 08:51 AM

Pretty good episode the other night.

Spoiler if you haven't seen the latest episode:

What the heck is up with the hot Cylon? She isn't just in the scientist's head anymore! Not sure where they are going with this. Any theories?

Bad-example

02-20-2005, 12:12 PM

I am really enjoying this show so far, but every time they show civilians in leisure suits and silk ties and loafers I have a hard time maintaining my suspension of disbelief. It looks like they all shop at Macy's.

I also think that the Apollo character is poorly cast and not well written to this point.

As for the Cylon detector...every human male has one. Bang a Cylon doggy style, shoot her if her spine begins to glow. :)

I have no theory as to how the blonde appeared in the flesh and then disappeared. It will be interesting to see where they go with that.

Chief Rum

02-20-2005, 01:37 PM

I agree that they need to do something more with the Apollo character, although I did notice he was hardly in Friday's episode.

I did like the episode with him and Richard Hatch, and think that was one of the better episodes so far.

I did miss a couple episodes after that, though (the ones leading up to last night) because I had to go to bed early for work on a Saturday. Ugh. :(

CR

bosshogg23

02-20-2005, 01:38 PM

Bad-example

02-20-2005, 01:40 PM

Upon reflection, I suppose a reasonable explanation for the blonde would be that she is a virus. After all the Greg Bear books I have read, I am surprised this idea didn't come to me immediately.

Desnudo

02-20-2005, 01:43 PM

Im curious as to why people in this thread dont like the person playing Apollo? I dont think he has done a bad job. Certainly not anything like Elisabeth Rohm in Law & Order. Maybe it has something to do with people preferring the way Richard Hatch played the character?

I don't think he's a particularly good actor. That's about it.

Fonzie

02-20-2005, 01:46 PM

Im curious as to why people in this thread dont like the person playing Apollo? I dont think he has done a bad job. Certainly not anything like Elisabeth Rohm in Law & Order. Maybe it has something to do with people preferring the way Richard Hatch played the character?

I don't necessarily dislike the actor - I think the Apollo character has been poorly developed to date, and that's on the writers.

ice4277

02-20-2005, 03:16 PM

Fonzie

02-20-2005, 03:19 PM

Question for you guys: I have not seen either the miniseries or any of the series up to this point, but I TiVo'ed Friday's episode. Would I be better served finding a copy of the miniseries first and watching that, or can I jump right into the series and not feel lost?

I'd recommend trying to watch everything in order. The entire series has been one continuous plot arc (more or less), so jumping in midstream might get confusing. Jumping in now would, at the very least, render some of the "unknowns" of the early episodes "known," and those spoilers might impact your enjoyment of those early episodes when you finally get to see them.

Just my $.02.

KWhit

02-20-2005, 03:29 PM

Agree with Fonz.

bosshogg23

02-20-2005, 04:06 PM

I agree about the miniseries as well. You can probably rent it at your local video store.

TazFTW

04-02-2005, 04:02 AM

What the frak!

I'm going to stop watching this show if they get rid of Edward James Olmos.

...unless they replace him with muffit.

Bad-example

04-02-2005, 04:08 AM

Too much of the mystic bullshit for my taste. I will keep watching but am starting to lose interest.

bosshogg23

04-02-2005, 06:34 AM

I missed the season finale! Did I miss alot?

Starbuck get back to Caprica?

Coffee Warlord

04-02-2005, 11:04 AM

Wow, what a way to end the season there. They've just done an excellent job to date.

...though Lee's still a pussy. Adama's the MAN though.

larrymcg421

04-02-2005, 01:02 PM

Eaglesfan27

04-02-2005, 01:29 PM

I haven't read this thread because I want to avoid spoilers. I've missed the entire season, as I somehow forgot about this show. I've heard some good things about it from a friend or two of mine. Does anyone know if/when they are going to replay them in order? I want to catch up with the 1st season and watch the 2nd whenever it starts.

larrymcg421

04-02-2005, 01:32 PM

Eaglesfan27

04-02-2005, 01:41 PM

It looks like they are going to continue airing the episodes on Friday night, starting next Friday with the 1st episode.
That is what I was hoping to hear. Thanks for the info.

Desnudo

04-02-2005, 01:43 PM

Sometimes, I think it was on Sundays, they ran marathons of the whole season to date.

Eaglesfan27

04-02-2005, 02:04 PM

Sometimes, I think it was on Sundays, they ran marathons of the whole season to date.
Excellent, I'll keep an eye out to TIVO it, if that happens.

Bubba Wheels

04-02-2005, 02:33 PM

Yes, but is Wiliam Shatner in it?

Fonzie

04-02-2005, 11:19 PM

I don't know. I thought that was one of the few times Lee showed some balls. He stood up to Tigh!

By the way, did you all catch the mysterious shot of Gaeta? It looks like he hands Boomer something right before she meets Adama. Probably a gun.

I'm pretty sure Boomer already had a gun holstered - at least she had one drawn while on the Basestar.

It was nice to see Lee take a stand - but he certainly could've been smarter about it.

And for those concerned about Adama - there's simply no way he dies. Period. Tigh is the next in command, and I can't even begin to imagine a show headlined by him. Besides which they've already promised that the President is going to die (won't Baltar make an interesting President?), and there's no chance they'll kill off two of the main characters within the first two seasons.

larrymcg421

04-03-2005, 12:06 AM

I'm pretty sure Boomer already had a gun holstered - at least she had one drawn while on the Basestar.
Well he gave her something or did something. When he walks over to talk to her the camera pans down very briefly as they shake hands. Something definitely going on there.

Wolfpack

04-03-2005, 01:49 PM

Speaking of Boomer, didn't you just enjoy the well-placed shadows on all her clones on the basestar? (I had actually predicted she would run into copies of herself while on the basestar, but the encounter itself wasn't what I expected.)

As for her attempt at assasination, I was expecting her to "snap out of it" like she did after planting the bombs in the water tanks back in the second episode, but I guess she didn't. Now that everybody is aware of her being a Cylon, I do wonder what it'll mean for plotlines involving her going forward. Obviously, the one on Caprica will be attempting to give birth to her hybrid baby sometime during season two and all the interesting prickliness that entails (I assume it'll be human-looking because Baltar didn't recoil in horror at seeing it in his vision). The one on Galactica will be confined to the brig for the remainder of the series, or should be if they've got any sense (or, shot out of an airlock like the other Cylon was).