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Ksyrup
04-26-2005, 07:29 PM
I wouldn't expect to know a country song - is that Martina Navratilova? But who did the second song? At least that one's something approximating rock and I should know the name, anyway.
ISiddiqui
04-26-2005, 07:34 PM
It's Martina McBride :p.
I dont know what song Bo sang.. but it sounded kinda familiar..
ahh this is what i don't like. when they show that stupid shit about the contestants instead of using the time to let them do 2 songs.
sabotai
04-26-2005, 07:47 PM
Constantine is trying to be hardcore while singing Nickelback.....ugh. I didn't think anyone could make me hate Nickelback more, but he's done it.
ISiddiqui
04-26-2005, 07:48 PM
For a rocker, that kid, Constantine, can't rock ;). Maybe he'd be better if he was drunk ;).
Paula seems almost sober today..... she's almost being a little critical.
Paula seems almost sober today..... she's almost being a little critical.
I bet they made her get her act together, with the allegations hitting the news in the past few days of her seducing contestants, drugs, etc.
Ksyrup
04-26-2005, 07:54 PM
For a rocker, that kid, Constantine, can't rock ;). Maybe he'd be better if he was drunk ;).
He was awful. I think Simon's comments served the dual purpose of being truthful about this performance and subtly cutting him down to size because his band signed that contract.
Cuckoo
04-26-2005, 09:49 PM
Yeah, some mediocre performances this week. Carrie finally performed a little bit, but man I hate country music. I thought Bo was fine, and Vonzell was pretty good.
I'd rank Scott's as one of the top 5 worst of the show (since they went to Final 12). Bottom three in my mind: Scott, Anthony, Constantine.
Scott finally goes home.
Easy Mac
04-26-2005, 09:59 PM
I only saw the first 5, so I missed Scott. Bo was easily the best of the first 5, it wasn't even close. He made the original seem like ass by comparison. After that, it was really a toss up for worst of the night. I will have to say Anthony didn't completely suck, and he had his best performance so far. Carrie sounded decent, nothing good, but nothing awful. Vonzell started the song horribly, it was atrocious. She hit the notes she needed to hit though, and that made her no worse than Carrie on the night. Constantine was ass. I hate the original version, but man, he sang it about as horribly as he could possibly sing it. From what I heard, Scott was unbelievably bad, but my girl hates him anyway, so its tough to tell.
Tonight's rankings:
1. Bo
2. Anthony (and believe me, this hurts to write this)
3. Vonzell (or Carrie)
4. Carrie (or Vonzell)
5. Constantine
undecided. Scott
Overall:
1. Bo (no logical reason he should lose)
2. Carrie (never bad, sometimes great, normally good)
3. Vonzell (never bad, never great, always good)
4. Constantine (Reminded me how much he sucked the first 3-4 weeks)
5. Anthony (Finally sounded decent, but he just sucks)
6. Scott (He can only dodge the bullet so many times)
Daimyo
04-26-2005, 10:14 PM
I thought Constantine was terrible... that's a super easy song to sing and I don't think he did anything right. His was one of the worst performances in a final since early in season 1 IMO.
Cuckoo
04-26-2005, 10:21 PM
1. Bo (no logical reason he should lose)
How about those three weeks in a row where he was mediocre to poor? While Bo is probably closest to the kind of music that I would buy and/or listen to, I think with this group it'll come down to taste. The final four should be Vonzell, Constantine, Carrie, and Bo. Out of those four, I can think of logical reasons for any of them not to win.
Swaggs
04-26-2005, 11:00 PM
I thought everyone except Bo and Vonzell were terrible this week. I thought Bo was excellent and Vonzell was pretty good.
Carrie looked and sounded really bad to me this week.
Scott had one of the worst performances ever.
Constantine was smart to pick a popular song, but he didn't do well.
Anthony was Anthony. He sounds like a theme park singer.
I think the bottom three will be Scott, Anthony, and Carrie, with Scott going home.
Solecismic
04-26-2005, 11:57 PM
I know you all secretly look forward to the weekly Solecismic American Idol Ratings. We're up to national syndication now, with a circulation only slightly lower than the Gigawatt Studios Amazing Race Travelogue.
This week's theme was songs you thought you've heard on the radio recently, but can't quite place. At least that's what it sounded like to those of us over the age of 17, which is, as I remember correctly, when Janis Ian learned the truth. You know, love was meant for beauty queens and brown-eyed girls in hand-me-downs, etc.
And this week, we learned that Vonzell has a deep appreciation for classical music, while Carrie has a deep appreciation for songs she already knows the words to. Both are exceptionally pretty girls, but I get the feeling that only one of them could find her way out if suddenly dropped by helicopter into the famous hedge maze of Hampton Court.
I make the reference to England in part because the English judge, Simon, wasn't at his best tonight. For once, Randy seemed to be on his game. Paula has switched from cocaine to prozac, but we did catch a glimpse of her making goo-goo eyes at Constantine, who, like Baseball Annie Savoy in Bull Durham, seems to have made her choice for the spring season.
"I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary, there are 108 stitches in a baseball, and there are 108 commercial interruptions in an hour of American Idol."
Luckily, we taped it (haven't taken the tivo plunge yet) so we fast-forwarded through the commercials and the intrepid reporting.
And, now, on to the ratings:
1. Anthony. Yeah, it's a mystery to me, too. I've hated this kid almost from day one, and he had a rough first ten seconds here. But he hit some pretty terrific combinations and sang with a little emotion tonight. Just a standout performance from someone I wrote off long ago. Score of 92.
2. Bo. He was in great form tonight, rocking the house down. It's just that I've seen this performance before. I think he's recovered from his slump a few rounds back, but I wish he'd try something that required more range. Sooner or later, I hope the judges call him on it. Score of 84.
3. Vonzell. It was an uneven performance, especially with the louder notes. She's so close to being very good, but when she gets loud, she loses her tone. Good enough to keep her going, though. Score of 77.
4. Carrie. Now, it was a bad week, especially for the bottom three. I agree with Randy, she was singing off-key. And I agree with the others that her song choice was uninspiring, and not just because it was more country than usual. She's been on a steady decline for five weeks now, and she'll be in some serious danger if she doesn't come up with something more representative of her vast talent next week. Score of 61.
5. Constantine. Just an insipid and boring rendition of the song. I couldn't wait for it to end. You saw why some thought he didn't belong in the final 24. He just isn't very good with rock songs. Score of 59.
6. Scott. He's back to being the human karaoke machine. That was dreadful, out of tune and really not that hard a song. Score of 44.
For the season...
1. Carrie. Average of 83.
2. Bo. Average of 80.
3. Constantine. Average of 79.
4. Vonzell. Average of 75.
5. Anthony. Average of 68.
6. Scott. Average of 67.
I believe it's Scott's turn to go. Joined by Vonzell and Anthony in the bottom 3. Constantine could make a surprise bottom 3 appearance.
Eaglesfan27
04-27-2005, 01:20 AM
I know you all secretly look forward to the weekly Solecismic American Idol Ratings. We're up to national syndication now, with a circulation only slightly lower than the Gigawatt Studios Amazing Race Travelogue.
This week's theme was songs you thought you've heard on the radio recently, but can't quite place. At least that's what it sounded like to those of us over the age of 17, which is, as I remember correctly, when Janis Ian learned the truth. You know, love was meant for beauty queens and brown-eyed girls in hand-me-downs, etc.
And this week, we learned that Vonzell has a deep appreciation for classical music, while Carrie has a deep appreciation for songs she already knows the words to. Both are exceptionally pretty girls, but I get the feeling that only one of them could find her way out if suddenly dropped by helicopter into the famous hedge maze of Hampton Court.
I make the reference to England in part because the English judge, Simon, wasn't at his best tonight. For once, Randy seemed to be on his game. Paula has switched from cocaine to prozac, but we did catch a glimpse of her making goo-goo eyes at Constantine, who, like Baseball Annie Savoy in Bull Durham, seems to have made her choice for the spring season.
"I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary, there are 108 stitches in a baseball, and there are 108 commercial interruptions in an hour of American Idol."
Luckily, we taped it (haven't taken the tivo plunge yet) so we fast-forwarded through the commercials and the intrepid reporting.
And, now, on to the ratings:
1. Anthony. Yeah, it's a mystery to me, too. I've hated this kid almost from day one, and he had a rough first ten seconds here. But he hit some pretty terrific combinations and sang with a little emotion tonight. Just a standout performance from someone I wrote off long ago. Score of 92.
2. Bo. He was in great form tonight, rocking the house down. It's just that I've seen this performance before. I think he's recovered from his slump a few rounds back, but I wish he'd try something that required more range. Sooner or later, I hope the judges call him on it. Score of 84.
3. Vonzell. It was an uneven performance, especially with the louder notes. She's so close to being very good, but when she gets loud, she loses her tone. Good enough to keep her going, though. Score of 77.
4. Carrie. Now, it was a bad week, especially for the bottom three. I agree with Randy, she was singing off-key. And I agree with the others that her song choice was uninspiring, and not just because it was more country than usual. She's been on a steady decline for five weeks now, and she'll be in some serious danger if she doesn't come up with something more representative of her vast talent next week. Score of 61.
5. Constantine. Just an insipid and boring rendition of the song. I couldn't wait for it to end. You saw why some thought he didn't belong in the final 24. He just isn't very good with rock songs. Score of 59.
6. Scott. He's back to being the human karaoke machine. That was dreadful, out of tune and really not that hard a song. Score of 44.
For the season...
1. Carrie. Average of 83.
2. Bo. Average of 80.
3. Constantine. Average of 79.
4. Vonzell. Average of 75.
5. Anthony. Average of 68.
6. Scott. Average of 67.
I believe it's Scott's turn to go. Joined by Vonzell and Anthony in the bottom 3. Constantine could make a surprise bottom 3 appearance.
I do secretly look forward to your scores ;)
I agree that it is Scott's turn to go, and I do agree that tonight's performance was dreadful. However, I don't think it will/should be a surprise to see Constantine in the bottom 3 after tonight's horrid performance. I think Anthony was actually good enough to possibly avoid the bottom 3. However, I think it will either be him or Vonzell rounding out the bottom 3 tomorrow.
Thomkal
04-27-2005, 06:48 AM
Yes its a mystery to me too Jim, but I also put...
1. Anthony-Never thought I'd rank him here especially when I heard he was doing a Celine Dion song. But he did a good job with it, staying mostly in control of his voice. Unlike Randy, I like it when he sings the lower notes because he practically shouts the high notes. Performance probably saved him from another Bottom 3.
2. Bo-hated the shirt and sunglasses, but gave his usual solid performance. Song didn't really show off his voice though. He actually picked a song people recognized, and a popular one at that, as its the theme song of UPN's One Tree Hill. I don't know that might be enough to get him kicked off. :)
3. Carrie-didn't recognize the song until she got into the chorus, which isn't a good sign when you like country music. You could tell through her performance that she was much more comfortable with this song, but she just shouldn't be singing Martina McBride. Her voice just isn't good enough for her songs.
4. Constantine-Back to his rocker roots. Didn't particularly like the song, but I don't think he was terrible. Much prefer the crooner side as Randy said.
5. Vonzell-Yes give her credit for singing difficult songs, but I just thought she was all over the place vocally the last two songs. Very disappointed
6. Scott-God that was excruiating. Just not comfortable at all with the song or the performance. Hopefully this will be the end of him.
And mentioned above sort of, it appears kicked off contestant from an earlier Idol, Corey Clark, is trying to get a book deal for his "tell-all" behind the scenes stories of Idol, including his sexual relationship with Paula Abdul. Somehow I just can't bring myself to believe him.
Ajaxab
04-27-2005, 07:57 AM
"I know things. For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary, there are 108 stitches in a baseball, and there are 108 commercial interruptions in an hour of American Idol."
I've often wondered if this show is violating the FCC's 22 minutes of content per half hour of programming. I just don't want to sit there with a stopwatch wanting to verify this hypothesis either. Of course one could arguably say that the entire show is a commercial.
HomerJSimpson
04-27-2005, 09:20 AM
I'm a Bo fan, and my wife even voted for him, but that was not a good performance last night. He and Constantine needed to swap songs. Neither had the one that fit his vocal style.
Ksyrup
04-27-2005, 09:25 AM
Do you guys vote? I've never even thought about it, to be honest. Of course, if they had a "vote for your least favorite," I'd probably be much more inclined.
judicial clerk
04-27-2005, 10:14 AM
Here are my thoughts from another week of AI:
First of all, I did not get home from work until 8:15 and so misseed the first two performances. As a side note, how would you guys and girls feel if your boss called you, from his hotel in Hawaii where he has been vacationing for the last ten days no less, to tell you to cancel your plans for the weekend because he and I need to work all weekend both days to get ready for a trial that we have scheduled about five weeks away. he also said to cancel plans for all the weekends form now until trial. I work weekends all the time, but there is something grating about having your boss call from the Aloha state to tell you how hard we have to work for the next month. I am obviously getting sidetracked. [You can learn more about this story by reading the upcomming "So I quit My Job Today" thread from Judicial Clerk.]
Anyhoo, I missed Carrie and Bo, but I did catch their recaps and I heard a smidge of Bo on AOL this morning. here is my analysis:
Carrie: I only caught a brief portion of her performance but I thought it was good. I recognized the song and I thought her beautiful voice came through and she seemed to be in her element. I think I like her better in 13 second incriments;
Bo: [Judicial Clerk]-"My name is Judicial Clerk, and I,... I have a man-crush on Bo Bice."
[HomerJSimpson, Ksyrup, Solecismic, Easy Mac, Eaglesfan 27]-"Hi Judicial Clerk"
I thought this was a good song choice for Bo, but could it be too good? I like this song and I liked Bo's rendition, but I thought his performance was better than his singing tonight. Bo really shines when he is forced to go outside his natural genre like he did last week. When he is allowed to play to his strengths, like when he sang Freebird, he disappoints slightly.
Vonzell: I liked her performance although I don't think I recognized the song. For some reason, I think that she is going to get squeezed out soon as her demographic will not grow as other singers get kicked off;
Anthony: The moment I heard the words "Celine Dion" I thought of FOFC. Specifically I thought of Quiksand's politically incorrect slur "do you also suck dick?" As I learned from QS and others, asking Anthony if, in addition to singing Celine Dion songs, does he also suck dick could be construed as hurtful to homosexuals for some reason. So I will not ask if Anthony does indeed suck dick. Big Dick. Asking him if he wants to hit from the ladies tee on the next hole almost seems to work, but it doesn't quite fit. maybe someone can link directly to the other thread;
Constantine: Performance was good, but again his voice is mediocre. Ok, I've got one for you. How do you get Constantine off of your porch? You turn off your TV camera. Get it? Get it? No? You turn off the Camera? Ok, how bout this one, a mosquito is to a bug zapper as Constantine is to a TV Camera. What, too much like an SAT question?
Full Metal Jacket: I didn't recognize the song, and it was not his best performance. I agree with Simon that he needs to pack his bags. The real question is when he goes, is he going to "take anybody with him." "Hey Joker ..."
rkmsuf
04-27-2005, 01:19 PM
Posted on Wed, Apr. 27, 2005
The 'Idol' phenomenon this season is Savol, whose presence has caused "online brawls" over his looks, his ability and his past.
ON TV
Unsinkable Idol unsavory to some
FOX SHOW'S FANS HAVE OVERLOOKED SINGER'S FAULTS, SO FAR
By Jamie Gumbrecht
HERALD-LEADER STAFF WRITER
People are tired of hearing about high gas prices, Social Security and filibusters in Congress, but there's another topic keeping Americans buzzing.
Who is this Scott Savol guy? And how has this chubby, pasty-faced R&B crooner with a smart mouth and bad clothes managed not to be voted off American Idol?
The answers reveal what young America really idolizes, and where its allegiances lie: With the underdog, the regular guy, the one who doesn't stand a chance.
The Fox network's singing competition consistently earns top ratings, drawing nearly 25 million viewers every week, while its judges are household names.
But the phenomenon this season is Savol, the 28-year-old thuggish back-talker, whose presence on the show has caused "online brawls" over his looks, his ability and his past. The devotion to certain contestants goes beyond loyalty to political parties, sports teams and cell phone plans. Many fans will spend hours calling in votes for their favorite, but may never have set foot in a real polling booth.
"People take it seriously," says Ashley Stamper, 31, a fan from Lexington. "I can get on these message boards at 2 a.m. or 8 a.m. and find people talking about it."
Savol doesn't look, sound or act like any of American Idol's great successes over the past three seasons, from perky Kelly Clarkson to lovable Ruben Studdard to sassy Fantasia Barrino. He can even be a little scary, as he was the night he rebuked judge Simon Cowell for blasting his rendition of the Hall & Oates song She's Gone.
The Shaker Heights, Ohio, resident was among Idol's 12 finalists, but often hit the bottom three -- purgatory for that week's lowest vote-getters and just one step from elimination. Still, fans keep him in contention, American Idol's very own singing anomaly.
"He's the antithesis of what the American Idol competition wants," says Dan Fienberg, who covers the show for entertainment Web site Zap2it.com. "You can't see a situation in which a promoter can look at him and say 'I know just what I'm going to do with him.' He clearly is not warm and fuzzy."
In fact, Fienberg says, "nobody was surprised when the domestic violence records were dug up."
In March, a 2001 police report detailing a violent fight between Savol and his girlfriend surfaced, which could have spelled an end to his Idol career. Past contestants have been booted for such incidents as assault allegations, drunken driving and appearing nude on a Web site.
But the singer was spared: "After reviewing the facts, in which the charges were reduced to disorderly conduct, we felt that considering Scott's honesty and his remorse, the situation did not warrant his disqualification," a Fox statement said.
He's sorry. He's changed.
Still, women denounced the singer on the show's Internet message boards and public opinion bottomed out. Could a man with a history of domestic violence, even one who was allegedly rehabilitated, be an idol?
"I certainly can't get past that when I look at him," says TK Logan, an associate professor of behavioral science at the University of Kentucky. "We need to be talking to our teenagers about this stuff, saying this is not good behavior, not acceptable."
He's lucky, culture hawks clucked. But just wait till the voting public has their say. And they did last week, sending home bright-eyed schoolteacher Anwar Robinson instead.
Still, Savol's luck could run out soon -- maybe tonight, when this week's results will keep only five contestants.
His performance last night of Luther Vandross's Dance With My Father didn't sit well with judges. Cowell suggested he pack his suitcase.
But as Fox keeps the votes under wraps, there's no telling who makes up Savol's (apparently large) fan base.
Some see genuine talent, if not a voice capable of winning.
"He's got a good voice, but I don't see a third R&B winner in three years," says DJ Doug Banks, whose syndicated radio show airs on WBTF-107.9 FM in Lexington. "Some people think he'll really be the one to come through and shine, but Fantasia set the bar so high."
So, if not talent, maybe it's that Savol is a regular guy, neither a looker nor a lady's man.
"He's not particularly articulate or attractive, can't dance, can't grow facial hair and at times, has a voice that's quite nice. On a checklist, he has just one box," Fienberg says. "People think that with a few extra pieces of talent, they could be him."
Or, maybe that he could be one of them. It's tough for many overweight people to intentionally put themselves in the spotlight, says Peggy Howell, spokeswoman for the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance. Savol may be an inspiration to some.
Some vote for the campy satisfaction of putting the geekiest guy in school on homecoming court. Or, it's a chance to beat the system: Votefortheworst.com encourages people to keep the show interesting by holding onto the least qualified contestant. This season, they've endorsed Savol.
"It's not because we hate Scott. Obviously we enjoy the show or we wouldn't watch it," says Dave Della Terza, 22, who runs the Web site. "Since you can't vote against someone, we're not negating votes. It's no less legitimate than voting for your favorite person. It's just fun."
Thus, Savol becomes American Idol's Ralph Nader, inspiring loathing or devotion, drawing votes that might have gone to a more realistic candidate.
"He doesn't have the complete package," says Stamper, the Idol fan and a nursing student at Eastern Kentucky University. "But people want to see the underdog win."
Savol was among Stamper's early favorites, but Vonzell Solomon and Carrie Underwood trounced him, she says.
Underdogs and regular guys are fine, Stamper says, but they're not idols.
"What's going on to keep him here?" she asks. "I guess you don't see many chunky white boys with a voice like that."
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tategter
04-27-2005, 02:24 PM
Posted on Wed, Apr. 27, 2005
The 'Idol' phenomenon this season is Savol, whose presence has caused "online brawls" over his looks, his ability and his past.
ON TV
Unsinkable Idol unsavory to some
FOX SHOW'S FANS HAVE OVERLOOKED SINGER'S FAULTS, SO FAR
By Jamie Gumbrecht
HERALD-LEADER STAFF WRITER
People are tired of hearing about high gas prices, Social Security and filibusters in Congress, but there's another topic keeping Americans buzzing.
Who is this Scott Savol guy? And how has this chubby, pasty-faced R&B crooner with a smart mouth and bad clothes managed not to be voted off American Idol?
The answers reveal what young America really idolizes, and where its allegiances lie: With the underdog, the regular guy, the one who doesn't stand a chance.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH............
Time for the bag of donuts to go.
Scarecrow
04-27-2005, 02:31 PM
Do you guys vote? I've never even thought about it, to be honest. Of course, if they had a "vote for your least favorite," I'd probably be much more inclined.
I have voted for Carrie every week :D
Critch
04-27-2005, 02:51 PM
Do you guys vote? I've never even thought about it, to be honest. Of course, if they had a "vote for your least favorite," I'd probably be much more inclined.
I voted for George Huff one week last year. Haven't felt the urge to vote for anybody this year, I want them all to lose.
I voted for George Huff one week last year. Haven't felt the urge to vote for anybody this year, I want them all to lose.
George is awesome.
Do you guys vote? I've never even thought about it, to be honest. Of course, if they had a "vote for your least favorite," I'd probably be much more inclined.
I've never voted before. I tried once or twice this season to vote for Carrie but the number was constantly busy.
FBPro
04-27-2005, 04:02 PM
I have voted for Carrie every week :D
Yep, multiple times. Also voted for several others from time to time and voted last year for Diana as well. I almost started a poll asking this question before.
Solecismic
04-27-2005, 04:08 PM
You know about my (failed) Mikalah campaign. I never voted before that week, haven't voted since.
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</td></tr></tbody></table> Though the exact nature of the "Primetime Live" special, "Fallen Idol," remains unknown, ABC has said it will "explore explosive claims about behind-the-scenes activities" at the Fox talent contest.
Reports have speculated that it will hinge on Corey Clark, a contestant who was dropped from the show in 2003 after producers learned about a past arrest. He is reportedly trying to sell a tell-all book about his experiences with the program, including an alleged affair with Abdul, one of the three judges on the show.
On Tuesday, a spokesperson for Abdul released a statement to syndicated entertainment show "Access Hollywood":
"Paula Abdul will not dignify the false statements made by Corey Clark with a response. Mr. Clark is an admitted liar and opportunist who engages in unlawful activities. He is communicating lies about Paula Abdul in order to generate interest in a book deal."
Further, the Los Angeles Times reported Wednesday that Abdul's lawyer, Marty Singer, has sent a letter to ABC threatening legal action if the network airs the special.
Simon Cowell, the show's more critical judge, defended Abdul on the syndicated entertainment show "Extra" Tuesday.
"Paula, to be fair to her, will spend more time backstage with the contestants giving encouragement. But that's not a bad thing," Cowell said. "I think (the accusations) are rubbish. I think this is a guy who's out there to publish a book."
The third judge, Randy Jackson, and host Ryan Seacrest also appeared on programs Tuesday to defend Abdul and "American Idol."
Efforts by The Associated Press to reach Clark have been unsuccessful.
Clark was booted from the show for not disclosing that he was facing assault charges for allegedly assaulting his teenage sister and resisting arrest. He later pleaded no contest to a lesser charge of obstructing the legal process.
The hourlong "Primetime Live" report by anchor John Quinones is scheduled May 4 (10 p.m. ET).
No mention was made of the ABC special on Tuesday night's episode.
One of the remaining six contestants was to be eliminated Wednesday night.
Swaggs
04-27-2005, 04:39 PM
Nice random shot of Clay Aitken. :)
Schmidty
04-27-2005, 04:47 PM
My wife votes for Bo like 50 times every week. I mock her about it mercilessly.
Swaggs
04-27-2005, 05:46 PM
My wife votes for Bo like 50 times every week. I mock her about it mercilessly.
Ditto. Except the part about me mocking her.
Eaglesfan27
04-27-2005, 08:22 PM
I can't believe Scott was actually in the top 3.
wtf. this show pisses me off. another week with scott.
Bobby Hill lives to see another week... Think Anthony knows he's screwed right now?
KWhit
04-27-2005, 08:25 PM
Scott "Serial Killer" Savol sucks.
KWhit
04-27-2005, 08:26 PM
That is silly.
cuervo72
04-27-2005, 08:26 PM
Ford ripped off Mitsubishi!
constantine is gone. i'm not that surprised, just that scott outlasted him.
KWhit
04-27-2005, 08:28 PM
Constantine is better than Anthony, Scott, and Vonzell, IMO. He shouldn't be gone this early.
Well, Constantine blew on Tuesday, surprisingly he delivered a very strong performance after elimination on Wednesday. He seemed to connect to the song better.
Ksyrup
04-27-2005, 08:33 PM
If this isn't a referendum on Nickelback, I don't know what is.
I don't get Scott's fan base. Let's review...the guy's fat and ugly, but without even 1% of Reuben's personality; he's beaten a girlfriend, had a kid at a young age and out of wedlock...does he dominate the trailer trash segment of the voting population? Is there a coordinated effort to keep him on the show to make the show look bad, like some secret voting alliance of college kids across the country? At least last year with John Stevens, it was understandable, since grandmas and young girls could be forgiven for keeping him on the show a few weeks too long. But Scott's now in the top 5, and should have been gone 5 weeks ago. A real head-scratcher.
FBPro
04-27-2005, 08:34 PM
Scott "Serial Killer" Savol sucks.
Just plain wrong, he's been on OVER A MONTH too long.
Ksyrup
04-27-2005, 08:34 PM
BTW, Constantine deserved to be in the bottom 3, because he was really bad. But you have to judge all of their performances together at this point, so he didn't deserve to go just on that fact alone.
Cuckoo
04-27-2005, 08:37 PM
If this isn't a referendum on Nickelback, I don't know what is.
I don't get Scott's fan base. Let's review...the guy's fat and ugly, but without even 1% of Reuben's personality; he's beaten a girlfriend, had a kid at a young age and out of wedlock...does he dominate the trailer trash segment of the voting population? Is there a coordinated effort to keep him on the show to make the show look bad, like some secret voting alliance of college kids across the country? At least last year with John Stevens, it was understandable, since grandmas and young girls could be forgiven for keeping him on the show a few weeks too long. But Scott's now in the top 5, and should have been gone 5 weeks ago. A real head-scratcher.
Agreed completely, except I like Nickelback. :D
Here's what I think it is. The majority of the people who vote on this show are more geared toward pop than rock music. However, I suspect this season has brought in some fans of the rock genre. At the beginning, it was poised to be a Bo versus Constantine to see who could grab the rock fan vote. It was a battle Constantine couldn't win, and he did the smart thing. He branched out, showed a little flexibility, and did a nice job on things that were surprises for many people. He began to capture a different demographic. Last night, he didn't excite that demographic but instead would have been depending on the rock fans again for support to keep him in the competition. In the end, I just don't think there are enough rock fans that watch this show (and vote) to sustain two rockers in the top 5.
Just my $.02
If this isn't a referendum on Nickelback, I don't know what is.
I don't get Scott's fan base. Let's review...the guy's fat and ugly, but without even 1% of Reuben's personality; he's beaten a girlfriend, had a kid at a young age and out of wedlock...does he dominate the trailer trash segment of the voting population? Is there a coordinated effort to keep him on the show to make the show look bad, like some secret voting alliance of college kids across the country? At least last year with John Stevens, it was understandable, since grandmas and young girls could be forgiven for keeping him on the show a few weeks too long. But Scott's now in the top 5, and should have been gone 5 weeks ago. A real head-scratcher.
Well, the trailer trash, having a kid at a young age and out of wedlock worked for Fantasia last year. Maybe Scott has the same fan base. He could win this thing!
What a crime. I told my wife I didn't even want to watch the show anymore.
Of course, I'll be there next Tuesday night.
But when we get to the stage when they start singing 2 songs each, if Anthony and Scott are still around I may have to self-mutilate.
KWhit
04-27-2005, 08:46 PM
If this isn't a referendum on Nickelback, I don't know what is.
I don't get Scott's fan base. Let's review...the guy's fat and ugly, but without even 1% of Reuben's personality; he's beaten a girlfriend, had a kid at a young age and out of wedlock...does he dominate the trailer trash segment of the voting population? Is there a coordinated effort to keep him on the show to make the show look bad, like some secret voting alliance of college kids across the country? At least last year with John Stevens, it was understandable, since grandmas and young girls could be forgiven for keeping him on the show a few weeks too long. But Scott's now in the top 5, and should have been gone 5 weeks ago. A real head-scratcher.
Simon's comment last night galvanized anyone who likes Scott even a little bit. People vote for the contestant they think needs it. Last night Scott needed votes, so the people who liked him voted for him.
Swaggs
04-27-2005, 08:54 PM
It felt like such a win-win when I knew that either Anthony or Constantine would be going home. :)
Ksyrup
04-27-2005, 09:15 PM
My guess is Anthony is gone next week. As much as I can't stand him, he gave an above-average performance this week and still finished second-to-last. Buh-bye!
FBPro
04-27-2005, 10:19 PM
My guess is Anthony is gone next week. As much as I can't stand him, he gave an above-average performance this week and still finished second-to-last. Buh-bye!
God NO, not Scott lasting another week.
MizzouRah
04-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Constantine sucked this week, plain and simple... but still I can't STAND Scott!!! Get that ass off this show!!
Todd
Subby
04-27-2005, 11:23 PM
Well, the trailer trash, having a kid at a young age and out of wedlock worked for Fantasia last year. Maybe Scott has the same fan base. He could win this thing! That's completely ridiculous.
She won last year because she was head and shoulders better than anyone else in the competition...any comparisons between her and Chinstrap are silly.
FBPro
04-27-2005, 11:45 PM
That's completely ridiculous.
She won last year because she was head and shoulders better than anyone else in the competition...
Ugh..... :rolleyes:
sabotai
04-27-2005, 11:46 PM
At this point, anyone not named Bo, Carrie or Vonzell needs to go. The order really just doesn't matter. They will, if people vote "correctly", be the final 3. If the order went Scott, Federov, Constantine or Constantine, Scott, Fecerov or whatever.
Constantine got the boot this week. GOOD. Just seeing that washed up, overpaid cheerleader cry was well worth it.
I don't really care who goes next week (Scott or Federov). As long as they are the next 2 gone, I will be happy with it.
FBPro
04-27-2005, 11:51 PM
At this point, anyone not named Bo, Carrie or Vonzell needs to go. The order really just doesn't matter. They will, if people vote "correctly", be the final 3. If the order went Scott, Federov, Constantine or Constantine, Scott, Fecerov or whatever.
Constantine got the boot this week. GOOD. Just seeing that washed up, overpaid cheerleader cry was well worth it.
I don't really care who goes next week (Scott or Federov). As long as they are the next 2 gone, I will be happy with it.
Quite accurate information :)
Mustang
04-28-2005, 12:31 AM
In my opinion, I think it is a foregone conclusion that Carrie is going to win just based on Simon's mannerisms and comments when Carrie performs. He almost has a 'oh gee.. THAT'S surprising' look when she is safe. I think that the judges/producers know what the voting percents are and if Carrie is consistently pulling X % more than the rest.. they probably figure she is going to win.
This week, if Simon wouldn't have said you are leaving, Scott would have been gone. Scott almost reminds me of that Eddie Murphy skit where he's a white guy that gets drunk and votes for Jesse Jackson. "He fuckin' won?"
On a side note... My wife is convinced Bo is bangin' Carrie though.
That's completely ridiculous.
She won last year because she was head and shoulders better than anyone else in the competition...any comparisons between her and Chinstrap are silly.
LaToya should've won.
Danny
04-28-2005, 07:01 AM
I dont know, I think Bo is still in it. He should pick up more of Constatine's votes than any other contestant I would think.
I dont know, I think Bo is still in it. He should pick up more of Constatine's votes than any other contestant I would think.
Bo should pick up most of Bo's sure, but besides the crowd that won't vote for another female winner (not sure how big that crowd is), I'd have to figure Carrie would garner most of the Anthony, Scott and Vonzell's votes. I don't think we can really count out Vonzell either though.
Ksyrup
04-28-2005, 07:55 AM
I fully expect one of the consensus Final Three (Vonzell, Bo, and Carrie) to be voted off before Scott or Anthony, for a few reasons. First, it always seems to happen, and I don't think Constantine is the last. Second, the voters have shown a pattern of considering each week's performances in a vacuum, so one false move by a front-runner could put them in jeopardy. Third, it seems like Scott has some sort of voting base that really doesn't care if he does poorly or not. So, if a Bo or Carrie stumbles, they seem more likely to lose votes on a week-by-week basis than him.
Has Carrie ever been in the bottom three? She might be immune to this. I know Bo and Vonzell have both recently been close to leaving.
Critch
04-28-2005, 08:16 AM
Chinstrap is 28 and his kid is 4, is that really having a kid at a young age? One of my friends had been married 3 times and had kids with all of them by 28 :)
Not sure why he's still there though, but as long as it means an end to Constantine it's ok with me. Constantine's problem was he tried to keep with the rocker act too long, even after Bo had beaten him as the token rocker. They both sing rock-y songs this week, they split the votes of people who like that kind of stuff, and Constantine loses. Lovely-jubly.
And to echo RPI-Fan's earlier complaint, the producers really messed up this week, I'd never heard any of those songs before and they all stunk :)
Ksyrup
04-28-2005, 08:26 AM
I don't know why, but I thought he was like 21 or 22 for some reason.
MizzouRah
04-28-2005, 09:20 AM
Scott is the big joke of the show. In fact, if he does win.. the show just might go down the tubes for good...or not.
Todd
gottimd
04-28-2005, 09:37 AM
http://www.griffinity.com/dave/images/humor19.jpg
Go Here (http://www.griffinity.com/dave/media.html) for some funny "Worst" idol stuff.
judicial clerk
04-28-2005, 11:05 AM
I wonder if Scott has actually had the lowest vote total each show for a month, but they are afraid to actually kick him off. Scott probably pulled Seacrest aside just before they went live, showed Seacrest the gun he was carrying under his jacket, and told Seacrest that he would be first if the shit goes down.
Glengoyne
04-28-2005, 12:02 PM
I was a bit disappointed that Constantine went home. I missed the first show this week, but over the past several weeks as a whole, I thought he had moved into the elite group with Carrie, Bo, and Vonzell. That is a group that, other than Vonzell, haven't really done much to stand out over the past few weeks.
I think Anthony is like Clay Aiken, maybe even better, but I don't think Clay was good enough to win this season. Scott's fan base must be huge. We're talking Ruben sized. Maybe all of Ohio just relates to him. His performances just get worse and worse, yet he sticks around.
Last year when, was it LaToya?, was dropped, the losers went in quick succession the following weeks. So here's hoping that Scott and then Anthony are the next two to go. It'd be a real shame if Scott goes any further.
jbmagic
04-28-2005, 12:46 PM
i think Gary Broslma is way better than Scott. :)
hxxp://www.big-boys.com/articles/idle.html
Flash animation. click on play.
gottimd
04-28-2005, 12:49 PM
Damn JB, that is like the 5th post in a minute you have linked to that site.
jbmagic
04-28-2005, 12:54 PM
Damn JB, that is like the 3rd post in a minute you have linked to that site.
fix that for you.
you got to admit he way better than Scott :)
FBPro
04-28-2005, 01:34 PM
I fully expect one of the consensus Final Three (Vonzell, Bo, and Carrie) to be voted off before Scott or Anthony, for a few reasons. First, it always seems to happen, and I don't think Constantine is the last. Second, the voters have shown a pattern of considering each week's performances in a vacuum, so one false move by a front-runner could put them in jeopardy. Third, it seems like Scott has some sort of voting base that really doesn't care if he does poorly or not. So, if a Bo or Carrie stumbles, they seem more likely to lose votes on a week-by-week basis than him.
Has Carrie ever been in the bottom three? She might be immune to this. I know Bo and Vonzell have both recently been close to leaving.
Carrie's never been in the bottom 3 to this point.
rkmsuf
04-28-2005, 01:38 PM
I wonder if Scott has actually had the lowest vote total each show for a month, but they are afraid to actually kick him off. Scott probably pulled Seacrest aside just before they went live, showed Seacrest the gun he was carrying under his jacket, and told Seacrest that he would be first if the shit goes down.
He said "Seacrest, out...yeah boy."
It's a strange phenomenon this keep the weak, boot the good. Same thing happens in Survivor consistently. I guess they got it right because America votes the same way.
Thomkal
04-28-2005, 03:23 PM
I think Anthony is like Clay Aiken, maybe even better, but I don't think Clay was good enough to win this season. Scott's fan base must be huge. We're talking Ruben sized. Maybe all of Ohio just relates to him. His performances just get worse and worse, yet he sticks around.
Clay would have walked all over these people with the possible exception of Bo.
MizzouRah
04-28-2005, 04:26 PM
Clay would have walked all over these people with the possible exception of Bo.
Send me a bag of that SC sticky.
Todd
Critch
04-28-2005, 06:07 PM
Completely unsurprising, but enough to get him booted off of AI?
"Idol" Finalist Dodged Cocaine, Pot Raps
Bo Bice completed drug diversion program after two Alabama busts
APRIL 28--One of the five remaining "American Idol" finalists was once arrested for felony cocaine possession, but had the charge--and a separate marijuana count--dismissed last year after completing a so-called "diversion program," The Smoking Gun has learned. Harold "Bo" Bice, 29, was busted in June 2001 by Huntsville, Alabama cops and hit with the drug count, a Class C felony, according to the below warrant. He was arrested again in July 2003 near Birmingham and charged with marijuana possession, public intoxication, and possession of drug paraphernalia, according to court records. He pleaded guilty to the latter two misdemeanors in December 2004.
hxxp://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0427051_bo_bice_american_idol_1.html
edited to avoid a dola - apparently Fox say they knew and wont can him.
Ksyrup
04-28-2005, 06:53 PM
That just confirms that Bo is a real rocker.
sabotai
04-28-2005, 06:55 PM
edited to avoid a dola - apparently Fox say they knew and wont can him.
Yeah, the reason people got booted in the past was because they didn't inform FOX of what happened. This is why Scott is still on as well, because he told them of his legal problems.
Glengoyne
04-28-2005, 08:05 PM
Clay would have walked all over these people with the possible exception of Bo.
I was a big fan of Clay that season, and still figure the fix was in for Ruben to win. I'm guessing they wanted two stars rather than one, and Clay can carry his own water.
I'm not certain about Clay running amok over this crowd. The quality of "entertainer/performer" is higher this season, and that seems to be figuring in to the mix some. Bo is a great entertainer, and a pretty decent vocalist. Clay would bury him vocally, but Bo is a performer. I think Carrie is this year's Clay, except I don't think she is as good vocally as he was. She might win the whole thing because of her vocals alone.
Vonzell really came out of no where for me. I didn't see her anywhere in the final mix early on. I actually figured the final 5 would be Carrie and four guys. She has easilly been the most improved over the course of the season.
HomerJSimpson
04-28-2005, 10:02 PM
There is a rumor that several phone banks were set up to call for Scott to purposely sabotage AI. The thought is if Scott wins, the show is over.
Eaglesfan27
04-28-2005, 11:03 PM
There is a rumor that several phone banks were set up to call for Scott to purposely sabotage AI. The thought is if Scott wins, the show is over.
Mrs. Eaglesfan heard on the radio the other day a radio personality urging people to "vote for the worst" and bring down AI. He also mentioned this thread from a website which has over 154 pages. Here is an hxxp'd link to that thread which discusses using various tactics (including autodialers) to help the worst stay around. There are also people denouncing this tactic in the thread from my very brief skimming of it just now:
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Neon_Chaos
04-29-2005, 12:42 AM
Let's go Scott! :)
oh my.... 154 pages... they have us beat.....
Critch
04-29-2005, 07:40 AM
AI Conspiracy theory - Constantine is on a show being interviewed and gives a number of plugs for his ex-band including plugging their new cd. Apparently this is completely forbidden by his AI contract.
Suddenly he surprisingly is voted off. Anybody want to put 2 plus 2 together and get 5 about whether or not the show really uses the phone votes, or whether the producers decide who gets booted? :D
Ksyrup
04-29-2005, 08:12 AM
I don't know. They aren't selling a new CD, this is something they released previously that obviously no one cared about pre-AI. Bo's band is selling his old CD, too.
I did think Simon's comments to Constantine after he performed, about how he crossed the line from rocker to crooner and shouldn't go back, were meant as a not-so-subtle jab at the news about his old band's CD being re-released.
Subby
04-29-2005, 08:25 AM
http://www.griffinity.com/dave/images/humor15.jpg
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why couldn't the cocaine story on Bo have come out last week? then he could've sang "Lit Up" by Buckcherry with the clever hook "I love the cocaine, I love the cocaine"
ShaqFu
04-29-2005, 02:38 PM
People forget that Scott Savol fits the mold of the average Fox viewer.
Ksyrup
04-29-2005, 02:55 PM
Scott broke that mold.
Ksyrup
04-29-2005, 04:02 PM
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Doesn't even come out until May 10. Fucker's gonna hit #1 if enough brick-and-mortars carry it. Unbelievable.
Swaggs
04-29-2005, 04:17 PM
I wonder what's up with his AI contract? Surely they worded it well enough to protect themselves from giving free pub to someone without benefitting in some way.
Ksyrup
04-29-2005, 04:23 PM
The thing is, this is not a new CD, so may he can benefit from it. Bo's doing the same thing on his old band's website.
HomerJSimpson
04-29-2005, 09:33 PM
From what I understand, he had to sign away rights to the band. I don't think he is getting anything out of it. It is the band that is cashing in at this point.
Ksyrup
05-02-2005, 03:38 PM
I think this might be the culprit (or at least one of them):
http://www.votefortheworst.com/
Eaglesfan27
05-02-2005, 06:48 PM
I think this might be the culprit (or at least one of them):
http://www.votefortheworst.com/
That is the website that Mrs. Eaglesfan heard promoted on the radio. The radio personalities here in New Orleans were urging people to check out that site and "vote for the worst."
Ksyrup
05-03-2005, 01:41 PM
This is the best I can find on what the theme(s) will be. Is this the week they start doing 2 songs each? I guess 5 x 2 = 10 makes sense.
"Seatool allegedly did not report on what tonight's theme would be on his radio show this morning.
But last night on a Fox news, the anchors said the TWO themes were:
1. American Top 40
2. Songs by the legendary Lieber and Stoller (think Hound Dog, Jail House Rock, etc...)
So, in other words, "What we had last week + 50s" "
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:10 PM
Tonight's songs: Lieber and Stoeller (or however you spell this shit), basically sing old songs first. Then another shot with songs on the Billboard top 40 right now (any billboard chart)
Easy Mac's real time idol ratings:
Anthony - Poison Ivy: Its nice to see Anthony getting back to his roots and sucking. His pretty decent performance last week worried me that he may survive longer than V, C, or B. Thankfully, he sang his first song horribly.
Rating:
Last - Anthony
wow, scott shaved. no more chinstrap :(
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:13 PM
Scott - On Broadway: He starts notes well, but by the end of the note he somehow fucks it up. He has a nice voice, he just has no idea what to do with it. He slurred his words, and his hair was as greasy as a taco.
Ratings:
next to last: Scott
last: Anthony
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:17 PM
Vonzell - Treat me Nice: She's so freakin cute. Reminds me of those girls in high school who were just goofy enough to make up for slightly lacking looks. Sounds kind of flat throughout the song. Seems to only want to use her voice for bigger notes. Its hard for me to get a grasp on whether she sang well, or sang well when she felt like it.
Ratings:
Middle: Vonzell (may move down)
next to last: Scott (may move up)
last: Anthony (won't move)
jbmagic
05-03-2005, 07:22 PM
Paula there?
so the rumor was false she got fire from the show.
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:25 PM
Bo - Stand My Me: Safe choice. Isn't really doing anything with the song. Doesn't sound good, doesn't sound bad. I don't know if I can put him above or below Scott and Vonzell. Didn't hear any mistakes, but didn't hear anything that may me say "that was damn good".
Rating:
second: Bo (could be 2-4)
middle: Vonzell (could be 2-4)
next to last: Scott (could be 2-4)
last: Anthony (ass)
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:29 PM
Carrie - Trouble: Shes freakin gorgeous. She tries so hard to do anything other than being a deer. Sounds nice. Showed at the end why her voice is better than Vonzell's, but V can hold a better note.
Ratings:
2nd - Bo
2nd - Carrie
2nd - Scott
2nd - Vonzell
last - Anthony
If I had to, I'd put Bo, Carrie, Vonzell, Scott and Anthony, but no one really has stood out yet. Time for some more recent stuff.
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:35 PM
Anthony - ?: Looking slightly less gay this time. Either I missed the song or didn't care. Never heard this one though. Sounds better, but still is missing a lot of notes. Sounds very flat. He wishes he were Clay Aiken.
Current Ratings:
next to last - Anthony (can't think its bad enough to be last)
Old ratings:
2nd - Bo
2nd - Carrie
2nd - Scott
2nd - Vonzell
last - Anthony
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:39 PM
Scott - Brian McKnight song? - Sounds decent, sometimes messing up. Still has a tendency to slur words. Sounded pretty smooth overall though. Better than Anthony, not too bad. Redeemed himself pretty well this week.
Current Ratings:
middle - Scott - Everytime you Go Away
next to last - Anthony - Incomplete
Old ratings:
2nd - Bo - Stand By Me
2nd - Carrie - Trouble
2nd - Scott - On Broadway
2nd - Vonzell - Treat me Nice
last - Anthony - Poison Ivy
edit, am I that out of touch with music
Ksyrup
05-03-2005, 07:42 PM
What happened to votefortheworst.com? Don't tell me it got taken down.
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:48 PM
Vonzell - song?: Vonzell, please don't try and sing low notes. She seems to be having trouble shifting from one note to the other. Sounds very nice when she sticks to a set of notes. Sometimes sings a little over the song. This may be her "song" because of the last few notes.
Current Ratings:
First - Vonzell - some AI song(aside from the shifting from note to note problems)
middle - Scott - Everytime you Go Away (pretty nice)
next to last - Anthony - Incomplete (not too bad)
Old ratings:
2nd - Bo - Stand By Me
2nd - Carrie - Trouble
2nd - Scott - On Broadway
2nd - Vonzell - Treat me Nice
last - Anthony - Poison Ivy
Wasn't this Vonzell song the one that the Idols did as a group? I don't think she nailed it well. I fear for her, though I still think Anthony/Scott need to be the ones to go.
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:50 PM
Bo - Heaven?: Sounds flat. Another song he should nail (like Free Bird). Again it seems like he's missing it tonight. He better be careful after what happened with Constantine. Sounds like he's missing some notes. This song was made for a Latin trio, not 1 white southern boy.
Current Ratings:
First - Vonzell - some AI song(aside from the shifting from note to note problems)
middle - Scott - Everytime you Go Away (pretty nice)
next to last - Anthony - Incomplete (not too bad)
last - Bo - Heaven (pretty lousy)
Old ratings:
2nd - Bo - Stand By Me
2nd - Carrie - Trouble
2nd - Scott - On Broadway
2nd - Vonzell - Treat me Nice
last - Anthony - Poison Ivy
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:51 PM
Man, I just must not have heard Bo correctly. It wasn't that good, and I think Bo should win this thing easily.
Ksyrup
05-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Never heard any of these songs, other than that stupid AI song. And I can't believe that is #1 right now. Good gravy!
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:58 PM
Carrie - Thank God she's pretty. 2 country songs tonight, not normally a good formula. Can't believe nobody sang The Killers. This may be her "song". Very consistent throughout for once.
Current Ratings:
First - Carrie - Very good.
Second- Vonzell - some AI song (aside from the shifting from note to note problems)
middle - Scott - Everytime you Go Away (pretty nice)
next to last - Anthony - Incomplete (not too bad)
last - Bo - Heaven (pretty lousy)
Old ratings:
2nd - Bo - Stand By Me
2nd - Carrie - Trouble
2nd - Scott - On Broadway
2nd - Vonzell - Treat me Nice
last - Anthony - Poison Ivy
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 07:58 PM
Overall Tonight:
1. Carrie - Great second song for her. I wanted to put Vonzell 1, but she just did damn good.
2. Vonzell - The last song resonates with people. It wasn't spectacular as a whole, but parts of it were. It stood out, where no one did the first time around.
3. Scott - Very consistent throughout. Needs to work on speaking clearly.
4. Bo - The second song wasn't that good, the first he just coasted
5. Anthony - That first song was that bad
Overall Overall:
1. Bo
2. Carrie
3. Vonzell
4. Scott
5. Anthony
Ksyrup
05-03-2005, 08:00 PM
It appears everyone sang in reverse "seeded" order, doesn't it? Anthony worst, with Scott next, then Vonzell, and Bo and Carrie as the top seeds got to sing last. In band competitions, the best bands usually gets to perform last, so that early performances can't be judged highly with more performances left. Just like figure skating as well, with hte best left to skate last and presumably get the highest scores.
Just an observation for conspiracy theorists...
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 08:01 PM
Just a note, this is the 7th most replied to thread currently. Close to becoming #6.
Lets go HOUSE!
My ratings tonight:
Carrie - second song much better than Bo's second. Bo was number one through round 1 of the evening for me
Bo - Can't believe the judges. I don't think they really listened to him on song 2.
Stand By Me was fairly sweet though
Vonzell - Only 3rd because Anthony and Scott are atrocious. She's passable but not really a threat to win anymore. She just has too many pitch problems and too rough a vocal timbre on her power spots.
Scott - Normally way last place, but tonight it was hard to bomb worse than Anthony. Scott had actually a relatively ok opener (On Broadway). The second song was vintage Scott-suck.
Anthony - No words. Just go.
Ksyrup
05-03-2005, 08:15 PM
I thought Bo was fine. Nothing spectacular, but he performed like a pro, as Simon said. That second song sucked (never heard it before), so he didn't have much to work with.
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 08:17 PM
If being a pro is mailing it in, then yes, he was a pro... but you can't be a pro in American Idol and expect to win.
Ksyrup
05-03-2005, 08:24 PM
I'm saying his performance was that of a pro, the songs (well the second one anyway) weren't anything he could really work with. He's not mailing it in, he gives the same type of performance nearly every week because, well, he's a rock singer and that's what he does. I'm sure he's ready to be done singing "theme" songs and just wants to sing the type of songs he sings best.
He didn't mail it in any more or less than Carrie - she did the same country song/robot performance shtick she's been doing for weeks. But I know, she's a pretty girl, so she won't be judged harshly for that.
Easy Mac
05-03-2005, 08:26 PM
but she actually put effort into the song. Bo sang one note the whole time. He just didn't care. IT was like when he had his bad back to back performances. He was just there
Ksyrup
05-03-2005, 08:31 PM
I didn't see it that way, sorry. Bo was loose, the second song lacked energy (which, besides a crappy chorus, is why it sucked), so maybe that's what you saw. Carrie did the same deer in the headlights thing she always does. Hitting high notes isn't "effort."
BTW, this is the second time at least that I've thought Vonzell's backup singers were way too loud. Is that on purpose because she is so close to losing the tune nearly every time she sings? She bothers me. Yes she's pretty and has a good voice and lots of energy, but she sings like a Miss USA contestant singing a song for the talent portion of the show, as opposed to being a singer who is pretty.
sabotai
05-03-2005, 08:34 PM
I agree with Simon in that Voncell could end up leaving. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she's the one "voted off".
FBPro
05-03-2005, 08:49 PM
God I am BEGGING You, Scott MUST GO this week........are we being punished or something?
God I am BEGGING You, Scott MUST GO this week........are we being punished or something?
He doesn't deserve to go tomorrow, Ferderov was much worse tonight...
Solecismic
05-03-2005, 08:59 PM
I suppose you're all sitting there wondering about Jessica Sierra, the poor young lady with a lovely voice, dancing moves that made Carrie look like a club veteran, and a personality to match the wallpaper we had to remove when we moved into our current home.
No, I don't know anything. I just wish she was still around, because it can get pretty tiring listening to the three pretenders who are sticking around longer than, it seems, DOS is sticking around the Windows world (oooh, nerd humor). And Jessica could sing. Not much to look at, but it would have been nice to have some competition in there.
So, with that not in mind, here are the current Solecismic Ratings for American Idol. Now syndicated in 450 magazines and newspapers throughout the world.
1. Carrie. Her first song was one of the top performances of the entire season. I was instantly reminded why, early in the round of 24, I thought there was no question she would win the entire competition. When she's on, there is no competition. She missed a couple of notes in her second choice, but it showed more emotion than we're used to seeing from her, and it was still the second-best performance of the night. She's back after a couple of mediocre weeks. Scores of 96 and 89.
2. Bo. There's a certain consistency to the coke-addled rocker. He is never out of tune, and he gives a decent performance with almost every song. The first song was a familiar one, and it sounded very good. He gave it a lot of energy. His second performance lacked energy, and was a little on the safe side. Still, he hit every note. Scores of 88 and 81.
3. Vonzell. The first song was dreadful, just dreadful. I have no idea why Randy wants her to win, because she really does scatter her voice at higher volumes, and it was a rough performance. Her second song was much more controlled, and ended up being one of the better performances of the night. Scores of 58 and 84.
4. Scott. There's just too much attitude in this kid, and he really should purchase a dictionary with a piece of that weekly clothing allowance. His first performance was decent, but unspiring, but his second was out of tune and inconsistent after a decent beginning. I don't know why he's still around at this stage, it's almost embarrassing to watch. Scores of 70 and 57.
5. Anthony. The first song he did was truly unbelievable. I sat there watching, finding it hard to believe this was the eight round of the finals of American Idol, and this was on my television. It was entirely out of key, and it wasn't that tough a song. The second performance was much, much stronger, but I don't think it was enough to save him. That first song just plain stuck out. Scores of 19 and 74.
Average Scores to date
1. Carrie 85
2. Bo 81
3. Vonzell 74
4. Scott 66
5. Anthony 63
Who should go? Anthony. Who will go? Anthony.
2. Bo. There's a certain consistency to the coke-addled rocker. He is never out of tune
Someone else was not listening tonight ;)
Swaggs
05-03-2005, 09:08 PM
Bo's version of "Heaven" from this week and last week's song, "I Don't Wanna Be," (if those are the right titles) were better than the originals, in my opinion.
Swaggs
05-03-2005, 09:10 PM
Given the interest in AI, what are the odds that, in the next Solecismic game, players will miss time in order to tryout for the show? :)
I suppose you're all sitting there wondering about Jessica Sierra, the poor young lady with a lovely voice, dancing moves that made Carrie look like a club veteran, and a personality to match the wallpaper we had to remove when we moved into our current home.
No, I don't know anything. I just wish she was still around, because it can get pretty tiring listening to the three pretenders who are sticking around longer than, it seems, DOS is sticking around the Windows world (oooh, nerd humor). And Jessica could sing. Not much to look at, but it would have been nice to have some competition in there.
I really enjoyed her voice as well. As far as looks, I thought she had some nice moments.
Eaglesfan27
05-03-2005, 09:16 PM
I think Anthony or Scott should go. However, I think that Anthony's teenage girl vote will save him. I think Scott's "save the worst" vote will save him. I think Vonzell will go home tomorrow.
EagleFan
05-03-2005, 09:16 PM
This week showed hands down who the two front runners are with Carrie and Bo. Not sure what EM was listening to.
Vonzel nailed the second song but didn't really do much for me with the first. She's just a notch below the main two.
Anthony should go based on tonight but Scott wasn't that much better. Overall, Scott has got to go. He is an obnoxious asshole who does not deserve to be there right now.
Cuckoo
05-03-2005, 10:14 PM
I thought Bo was pushing Heaven a little bit, but Stand by Me was great. Carrie, for the first time in a long time, really impressed me tonight. I know, and have always known, that she's good, but I keep waiting for her to make me say, "Wow, that was good." She did that tonight.
Vonzell wasn't as good as she's been the past few weeks, but that's because she has set the bar high for herself. Still solid, though. She should be safe.
Scott was actually better than he has been in a while, and I agree with those who said he was better than Federov. Federov was horrible, and it's hurting my ears to continue listening to both of these guys. One of them will certainly go, and I don't really care which.
Tonight:
Carrie
Bo
Vonzell
Scott
Anthony
Overall:
Bo
Vonzell/Carrie (both really close to me right now)
Anthony
Scott
judicial clerk
05-04-2005, 12:35 PM
My thoughts:
I agree that they seemed to go in order from worst to first. When somebody above refered to Scott as chinstrap it made me laugh, but I didn't really get the joke until tonight. I'm gonna type it one more time: chinstrap. thats funny. I am going to tag one of my friends with that nickname. I liked the nerd humor too. it reminds of a case I just litigated where the issue was whether the automated timekeeping software provided by my client "interfaced" with the automated accounting system used by the purchaser. Anyway, on to the brakdown:
Anthony: his first song was the worst performance of the night. It was a song I never heard before or liked, and it didn't give him a chance to really use his voice. The second song was OK, but I felt an immediate resentment when Seacrest told me that it was a new backstreet boys tune. Probably a good second selection. Overall, I think Anthony is in seroius trouble. he did the worst tonight and he is the second worst overall;
Sausage Fingers: I think he did a great job of picking the right songs, and it might keep him alive for another week. I have always liked the first song he chose and he did it justice. he actually sounds similar to the original. I was not familiar with the second song, but it gave him a chane to get back to the R&B he prefers. overall, not a bad night , but he pales in comparison to the big three;
Vonxell: I was not that familiar with either song, but I thought she really sounded great both times. Simon and some of the other people posting here were less impressed by her performance. i think maybe the ways in which her performances were lacking went over my head as a layman. She is still cute as a button, althoguh I did not like it when she blew a kiss at the end of her song. I like her becasue hse is cute, and if she starts acting like a Diva or a slut, it won't help her. Overall great performance in my book and head and shoulders over tweedle dee and tweedle scott;
Bo: Good song selection with stand by me. He probably could have picked a better song with his second choice, but he performed well enough. he is a good enough singer and performer that he makes the others look bad. I don't think it was his best performance, but he showed once again that he has a career ahead of him. I could do without the funky pullover shirts, though. he must have found a 3 for 1 sale at the Gap. I do have a new concern. I have been pulling for Bo to win right up until last night when my three yoar old daughter, who was watching with my wife and I, said "I like him.'' She has not expressed any specific interest in any other performer. We asked her to repeat herself and she said "I like him. Bo. Daddy likes him?" In that instant, Bo changed from cool rocker, to drugged out long-hair who is trying to use his mojo on my daughter. No wonder Anthony still gets so many votes. At least she didn't say she likes Pugsly.
Carrie: She really kicked ass with that first song. She showed me why she is better than Vonzell (who I like) and why she should probably win even over a great second place in Bo. I didn't love the song she chose for her second performance, but she definitely sang it well. Scott and Anthony should not be in the same comeptition with this girl. Simon called her a robot. I think he lifted that from Gindin.
Ksyrup
05-04-2005, 12:40 PM
I have been pulling for Bo to win right up until last night when my three yoar old daughter, who was watching with my wife and I, said "I like him.'' She has not expressed any specific interest in any other performer. We asked her to repeat herself and she said "I like him. Bo. Daddy likes him?" In that instant, Bo changed from cool rocker, to drugged out long-hair who is trying to use his mojo on my daughter. No wonder Anthony still gets so many votes. At least she didn't say she likes Pugsly.
That's funny.
In that context, I'm not sure what it means that my daughter got upset when we told her Ken Jennings was no longer going to be on Jeopardy every night after he lost...
Given the interest in AI, what are the odds that, in the next Solecismic game, players will miss time in order to tryout for the show? :)
Its already in FOF2K4:
...was arrested for appearing on American Idol, in violation of the league's strict anti-teen trend policy.
Daimyo
05-04-2005, 03:27 PM
That show basically re-enforced to me what I thought all season... the final has to be Bo vs Carrie. The rest have had their moments, but those two have basically been 1-2 all season.
I'm so conflicted. Scott and Anthony both suck. I kinda liked Scott last night (WTF??) so maybe Anthony should go. But man, Scott has been so bad throughout... shit, so has Anthony.
FBPro
05-04-2005, 08:33 PM
booya. bye scott
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!
now I'm kinda sad.. just a little bit. only because Anthony is in the final 4.
Swaggs
05-04-2005, 08:40 PM
It's going to suck when one of the three good ones get booted next week for Federov.
never happen. never.
(God please dont make me eat these words)
stevew
05-04-2005, 08:46 PM
My favorite thing is when they make hte loser reprise the song that he lost with the night before. Its like "Here, show these people how badly you suck, they werent for certain the first time"
FBPro
05-04-2005, 08:47 PM
now I'm kinda sad.. just a little bit. only because Anthony is in the final 4.
Better than Scott being in the top 4.
Does this mean that Anthony inherits the "Vote For The Worst" position?
Cuckoo
05-04-2005, 08:50 PM
WooHOO!!! Scott is gone... :)
Wolfpack
05-04-2005, 08:54 PM
Does this mean that Anthony inherits the "Vote For The Worst" position?
If that's so, in concert with the teen block, he should be nearly unstoppable the rest of the way.
thealmighty
05-04-2005, 10:18 PM
Is it just me, or do the weekly group sing-a-long bits really, really, really, really, really, really suck. I had to hit the mute button or risk losing my chocolate cake (I mean, chocolate cake is bad-ass and all, but not for a second go round).
jbmagic
05-04-2005, 11:35 PM
the other night on my local fox televison news, they did a report about a web page trying to keep scott.
i wonder if they just decided to boot scott regardless of the votes.
Arles
05-05-2005, 12:40 AM
the other night on my local fox televison news, they did a report about a web page trying to keep scott.
i wonder if they just decided to boot scott regardless of the votes.
As you get fewer contestants, you need more votes to stay alive. My guess is that much of the constantine vote went to Anthony and that group didn't have enough votes to keep Scott alive with just 5 left.
Mustang
05-05-2005, 12:42 AM
Ok, time for my conspiracy theory.
Last week, Scott hung around because people probably felt sorry for him after what Simon said about "Packing your bags" and he got a boost.
I think this week, Simon suggested that Vonzell could be on the way out. He seemed to almost say it with a smirk. Personally, I think he knows the Vonzell and Scott probably have the same type of voting base (R&B) and I think he was trying to pull votes away from Scott by suggesting Vonzell was in trouble. I think Simon really wanted Scott off weeks ago...
I think Scott's attitude helped doom him this week. I still remember him being a dick to those 2 other guys way back when they were at the 48 people left stage.. Glad he's freakin gone. Out of the 4 left, I want Bo to win but, could deal with any of the remaining 4 winning.. even Anthony.. (god forbid though...)
ISiddiqui
05-05-2005, 03:17 AM
Yay... America made the right call for once http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/images/smilies/wink.gif.
This season seems similar to Season 2 in that it seems that everyone knows who'll be the final two (caveat, just because it seems that way doesn't mean it'll happen http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/images/smilies/wink.gif). The funny thing, however, is that American Idol is a competition to find the next 'pop' star and those two, Carrie and Bo, would probably end up releasing albums under different music genres (country and rock, respectively). Just amuses me.
Though I guess people would get tired of all the pop stars and root for (and get) people of other genres which are popular in the US.
MizzouRah
05-05-2005, 08:26 AM
Yeay.. ya...yahoo...yapples...
bye Scott!
judicial clerk
05-05-2005, 10:58 AM
For a second there I thought they were going to tell scott and Anthony both to get the hell out.
EagleFan
05-05-2005, 11:05 AM
Finally!!!! Coincidence that it happened right after the votefortheworst.com got shut down?
He should have been gone a very long time ago. Not only isn't he that great of s singer, he is a total a##hole.
ShaqFu
05-05-2005, 11:11 AM
The funny thing, however, is that American Idol is a competition to find the next 'pop' star and those two, Carrie and Bo, would probably end up releasing albums under different music genres (country and rock, respectively). Just amuses me.
Though I guess people would get tired of all the pop stars and root for (and get) people of other genres which are popular in the US.
That's the concept, but I believe rockers have won elsewhere in the world. "Pop" is supposed to mean "popular" and many times country or rock will end up on the "pop" chart.
Critch
05-05-2005, 11:24 AM
Well that was good. Anthony gets sent to the couch and you can hear him say something like 'nothing's certain yet', so he's smart enough to realize that maybe they've changed things round and he's not safe yet. Scott gets sent to the couch too, he's too busy giving 'mad props' to God (who is apparently a huge AI fan) to realize that he may not be safe, he's already in full celebration mode. If he had half a brain he should have realized that he was being sent to sit beside Anthony and thought 'Geez, I'm f***ed'. What kind of f-ed up competition would it be if Anthony and Scott were the top two?
Then the bad news bit to Anthony just made it even crueler on Scott. Which was good.
judicial clerk
05-05-2005, 11:36 AM
he should have realized that he was being sent to sit beside Anthony and thought 'Geez, I'm f***ed'.
funny.
Ksyrup
05-05-2005, 12:43 PM
Scott gets sent to the couch too, he's too busy giving 'mad props' to God (who is apparently a huge AI fan) to realize that he may not be safe, he's already in full celebration mode.
I saw that too. The minute he sent Anthony to the sofa without saying he was safe - just, go sit on the sofa - you knew what they were doing. When he told Scott to sit down and Scott reacted the way he did, I just started laughing. What an idiot!
from etonline- This week the categories are Nashville and then "The Philadelphia Song," meaning songs written by the super writing team of KENNY GAMBLE and LEON HUFF.
Should be pretty tough for Carrie.
rkmsuf
05-10-2005, 02:19 PM
Could this show drag out any longer?
Ksyrup
05-10-2005, 02:19 PM
That's what I read elsewhere. Gamble and Huff apparently wrote a lot of Motown stuff, Lou Rawls, etc.
oh, and votefortheworst.com is back up and running. now they are putting their power behind Anthony.
Easy Mac
05-10-2005, 07:31 PM
Carrie: Damn, she sung the shit out of that song. I hate country music, but that was very damn good. And she's so damn cute. And she actually looked to be having fun.
Bo: A nice performance. It sounded like he started notes a little flat on occasion. This song presented a few times where he could really get the audience off their feet, and he didn't seem like he felt like making the effort. "Its a... GREAT DAY....", he should have put more effort into it, it would have paid off.
Vonzell: A nice job of singing. Nothing spectacular. She still seems to have some problems moving from note to note. Since its down to four, its becoming harder to knit pick each contestant, as we're finally down to people who can sing (so far). Weird slipup for a second, like she had to swallow. That last long note really wasn't good. She totally missed it. You can't control everything going on in your life, but now isn't the time to let emotion get control.
Anthony: This didn't start out well. He just sounds 1-2 notes off on every note. I'm content saying he's placing himself firmly in last. I really think I didn't listen to the same thing as the judges. I thought he sounded like shit.
So far:
Carrie
Bo
Vonzell
Anthony
i thought anthony was quite good.
Easy Mac
05-10-2005, 07:36 PM
It must just be a Fantasia thing, where the voice annoys me so much that it always sounds like shit.
Eaglesfan27
05-10-2005, 07:38 PM
During that second song, Carrie actually seemed to be smoldering. Huge change from the vacant eye look.
Easy Mac
05-10-2005, 07:42 PM
That was the only thing smouldering after that rendition.
hahaha they showed john stevens in the audience.
Easy Mac
05-10-2005, 07:57 PM
Carrie: I didn't really like her performance this time around. Her long "good" notes weren't really that good. It seemed she had a pitch problem or something like that. Meh. I'll concur with Simon.
Bo: As usual, Bo goes with the rug first, then the glasses. Nice little porn guitar going. Not a lot of singing going on for Bo. Much better "performance" right now. Stepped it up in the last minute or so. There we go. Brilliant performance. The singing was far secondary, but it doesn't really seem to matter right now.
Vonzell: Sounds flat at the start. She seems to be running out of steam. Her dressing up of the end seems to win people over, but it really wasn't a good performance at all.
Anthony: He does the same song as Carrie? OK... And he starts it out about as well... or poorly. Finally starting to do something with the song. Actually doing it better than Carrie. GOod song for a 9th rate crooner.
2nd batch:
Bo
Anthony
Vonzell
Carrie
Easy Mac
05-10-2005, 08:02 PM
For the night:
Bo - He overcame a plodding first song with a great performance with his 2nd song. Never really felt good vocally, but a great performance.
Carrie - A great first rendition, the worst 3nd rendition, but I think the other 2 were inconsistent enough to be no better or equal.
Anthony - A horrible first song (in my opinion). A much better rendition of the 2nd than Carrie. A nice night.
Vonzell - She sounded off all night. The big notes at the end wins her votes, but the rest of her songs she has trouble with. I don't know if it was the emotion of the night, but she was off the whole time.
Overall:
Bo - Should win
Carrie - She's hot
Vonzell - She's cute
Anthony - He's the worst
Anthony should go, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Vonzell go. Stranger things have happened.
Swaggs
05-10-2005, 08:17 PM
Sadly enough, I thought Anthony was pretty good tonight. I thought he and Bo did the best.
Carrie was just okay, but will probably be safe since the judges laid into her a little bit.
I think Vonzell might go this week.
Solecismic
05-10-2005, 08:26 PM
Tonight's version of the Solecismic Ratings is presented live from Amherst, New Hampshire. Now, American Idol was all set up to have the contestants sing songs written in Amherst, but no amount of research could produce any.
So, they had to turn to Philadelphia and Nashville. A Tale of Two Cities. Remembering the Dickens classic, there were a lot of beheadings and stories of class conflict. Standard Dickens stuff. We all had to read it in high school, because it's accessible and vastly overrated.
Much like tonight's caderie of performances. Just not all that impressive, not living up to the hype. The contestants knew it. The judges knew it. The audience didn't know it, but they're never let in on anything - Paula passes out her happy pills as they come in the door.
1A. Vonzell. Her first song started out in a disasterous manner. She was off-tempo, unhappy about something. Not sure what was going on, but it may have been just home-sickness. She picked it up a bit in the closing bars, but it was still an unmemorable performance. Her second song was one of the precious few highlights of the evening. She sang with energy, and hit a much higher percentage of her notes than usual. Scores of 65 and 87.
1B. Bo. He picked a safe first song, and sung it passably. It was a snooze-fest with a degree of difficulty approaching a rousing round of Frere Jacques. Bo's grandmother responded by showing him the bottom of her daughter's shoes. In Alabama, that means your very soul is in danger. Bo responded by singing a tribute to Donald Trump in the second song. I think he's a Kendra fan myself. It wasn't great, but it had energy and Bo's usual professionalism. Scores of 70 and 82.
3. Carrie. Her opener was the best peformance of the night. She clearly enjoyed herself, and while she seemed a bit tired in the late innings, it was a solid double into the gap. Everything fell apart for her with the second song. She was uncharacteristically off-key throughout the performance, and it was without a doubt her worst job to date. Scores of 88 and 56.
4. Anthony. Tonight, he seemed to like holding his notes a little too long. And tonight, many of those notes were embarrassingly wrong. Seeing him up there with the other three was a lot like one of those old Sesame Street puzzles, "which one of these things just doesn't belong." Well, if you guessed it's Anthony, you'd be dead on. Strangely enough, both he and Carrie chose the same "Philadelphia" song. Just after they bragged that one of their songs is on the radio once every few minutes. Neither rendition was worth a damn. Scores of 55 and 56.
To date:
1. Carrie 83
2. Bo 80
3. Vonzell 74
4. Anthony 62
At this point, I have to think the Anthony craze has just about run its course. I didn't mind seeing Scott go last week, but if he stays another week, it's at the expense of a much more deserving singer. And that shouldn't happen.
RPI-Fan
05-10-2005, 08:42 PM
That 14 minute stat didn't do anything for me... there are probably 50 radio stations per state, so 2500 in the U.S. that play that kind of music.
So that's 2500 stations, playing 8 songs per hour, 24 hours a day, or 480,000 songs per day, or 333 songs per minute. That means it takes these radio stations 4,667 songs to get to ONE from those artists. Not all that impressive, IMO.
FBPro
05-10-2005, 08:56 PM
It must just be a Fantasia thing, where the voice annoys me so much that it always sounds like shit.
Classic..
Ksyrup
05-10-2005, 09:49 PM
It's a good thing the wife and I missed the live performances at 8pm, because we wouldn't have been able to fast forward through them if we hadn't. Ugh, what a bad night of performances. When Anthony gives the only two consistently good performances from one contestant, you know it's a bad night (though Simon nailed the "soul" thing perfectly - I just got through saying the same thing to my wife).
I thought Carrie was awful on both songs. IIRC, the pink-haired chick from last year sang Sin Wagon, and it was far better than Carrie's version. Vonzell was bad - I've come to the conclusion she is only good at singing up-tempo disco and 80's pop songs, where the music, the backup singers, and her energy can overcome her lackof technical vocal ability. Bo's first song was another horrible choice, like last week's, but he gave a great performance the second time around. Anthony clearly has the best voice in the competition; it's just too bad he is a blank slate as a singer/performer. To think he actually outdid Carrie on the same song...wow.
Just like last year, this competition has dragged on way too long, and everyone is just on cruise control, with Anthony desperately trying to save himself. They should cut 2 people per episode from 12 to 2. Maybe that would help.
Cuckoo
05-10-2005, 10:19 PM
I hate country music so everyone was horrible the first way through in my opinion. I thought Carrie was much better than everyone else did in the second batch, and I only thought Bo was decent.
Overall for me:
Bo
Carrie
Vonzell
Anthony
Tonight:
Carrie
Bo
Vonzell
Anthony
Federov has to go; I just don't think he's in the same league as the other three.
Rizon
05-10-2005, 10:39 PM
What the hell is with the timing on Carries second song? It sounds like either she or the band is way off.
if it was based on just this week, Carrie would be going home.
Critch
05-10-2005, 11:07 PM
Carrie was horrible, Bo was same as usual but his ok voice will be ignored cos he's a showman, Vonzell was ok but the tears will get votes, Anthony was pretty good considering he's Anthony, but he's still going home this week.
FBPro
05-10-2005, 11:25 PM
What the hell is with the timing on Carries second song? It sounds like either she or the band is way off.
Simon seemed to think it was the band, based on his comments.
Daimyo
05-10-2005, 11:50 PM
I can't stand Anthony and he's pretty much been in my bottom 2 or 3 the whole competition... however, I thought he was somehow pretty easily the best tonight. Vonzell was probably the worst overall, but Carrie's second song was easily the worst of the night for me. I really hope Anthony goes home, but I think it will be Vonzell. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it is Carrie.
Eaglesfan27
05-11-2005, 02:52 AM
I can't stand Anthony and he's pretty much been in my bottom 2 or 3 the whole competition... however, I thought he was somehow pretty easily the best tonight. Vonzell was probably the worst overall, but Carrie's second song was easily the worst of the night for me. I really hope Anthony goes home, but I think it will be Vonzell. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it is Carrie.
I'd be shocked if it was Carrie. All indications are that she has been consistently getting the most or 2nd most votes most weeks. I think Vonzell might be the surprise departure, however I agree that the crying may get her some sympathy votes. However, Anthony is the one who deserves to go home based on the entire competition.
Ksyrup
05-11-2005, 06:30 AM
Yeah, but it's pretty obvious that under normal voting circumstances, the current weeks' performances seem to carry the most weight. Like when Bo was put in the bottom 3. Not saying I think Carrie is going home, but it wouldn't shock me. Simon was clearly agitated that the band screwed up Carrie's song, and certainly, the people who arrange the songs for them probably have a lot more input than the performers themselves, but I've never seen one of the judges come right out and blame an arrangement like that. It's clear who they want to win. At most, they'll usually just say it was the wrong song choice and/or not a compelling performance - not point to the band and say, "It's their fault."
Vonzell will obviously get sympathy votes for her mental breakdown for unknown reasons. She still has limited ability as a singer/performer, IMO - she's only been really good doing dancy disco/80's songs. And Anthony, of course, is only good at non-descript ballads. In fact, none of the remaining 4 has any crossover appeal whatsoever, but then, I guess the same could be said of Fantasia and Rueben. Only Kelly Clarkson appears to be truly legit so far. And that's just because she's gone from singing AI ballads to impersonating Avril Lavigne (at least that's my take after hearing a minute or so of her single).
I really enjoy this show, except I hate the entire idea of it and what it produces. That's kinda weird, isn't it?
Critch
05-11-2005, 07:23 AM
critch Rule of Diminishing AI Talent:
Kelly > (Rueben + Clay)/2 > Fantasia > (Anthony + Vonzell + Carrie + Bo)
Been pretty underwhelming for me this season. Last season wasn't too good either, but this season has been distinctly middling for me. Nobody really good, nobody really bad.
And I agree with Daimyo that Anthony somehow put out the best performance this week, he's got a good voice if you like the kind of stuff he does.
Thomkal
05-11-2005, 07:36 AM
Here's my rankings of each round:
Country:
1. Carrie-I should dock her for song choice. I never thought I'd hear Sin Wagon again after Amy Adams sang it last year. With all those country songs out there and she chose that one? Good thing she sang it well and gave it personality and performance.
2. Anthony-He seems to have a bad week/good week with me. This was a good week. Song choice was a bit odd since it was another group song, but he's at his best (such as it is) with ballads. I love it when he does that thing where he goes up or down a note in mid-word or whatever that is.
3. Bo-He seemed embarassed to be singing country or just very uncomfortable with it. Who cares how he's done in the past, judges should have nailed him on this one because it was bad.
4. Vonzell-Always the emotionally fragile, she finally let it affect her performance. Should have been a good song for her despite it being country, but was just awful. No pity points from me for the tears.
Philly Songwriters:
1. Anthony-Did a much better job of the song than Carrie and deserves credit for that. It did sound a lot like the Simply Red version.
2. Bo-surprising choice that Fox would let the theme song for an NBC show be sung. Vocals were blah, performance is what keeps him in the game and likely winning it for him.
3. Vonzell-I give her credit for coming back strong from the first performance, and it was a good job overall. Still had some vocal problems with it.
4. Carrie-Ugh. That was butchery. And she was back to more of a robotic performance too. I did like the end part of it better than the beginning of it though.
Overall Anthony had the most consistently good vocal performances, so he gets my vote for tonight. It'll be interesting to see where all the Scott votes go. Anthony has been in the bottom 3 a lot, so he's probably going to go tonight, but it wouldn't surprise me if Vonzell went based on her performances last night. Carrie and Bo have too much momentum behind them to be eliminated yet.
Ksyrup
05-11-2005, 07:45 AM
Carrie singing a song called Sin Wagon was about as believable as Paris Hilton singing Like a Virgin. I didn't think she pulled it off at all - the vocals were singy/talky and didn't sound all that great. She could have gone with a better uptempo choice with lyrics that fit her better or were just neutral.
I didn't even know Simply Red sang that song, but I told my wife that's what Anthony sounded like in the middle of the song. Pretty weird.
cuervo72
05-11-2005, 07:52 AM
Here's my rankings of each round:
Country:
1. Carrie-I should dock her for song choice. I never thought I'd hear Sin Wagon again after Amy Adams sang it last year. With all those country songs out there and she chose that one? Good thing she sang it well and gave it personality and performance.
Nowhere NEAR as good as Amy Adams' version IMO, despite Amy's getting the boot after singing it.
Ksyrup
05-11-2005, 07:54 AM
Nowhere NEAR as good as Amy Adams' version IMO, despite Amy's getting the boot after singing it.
That was my take as well. I wouldn't call Amy's "memorable," although I guess I did remember that she sang it and that it was better. I remembered the song and the hair, but not her name.
Critch
05-11-2005, 07:54 AM
Nowhere NEAR as good as Amy Adams' version IMO, despite Amy's getting the boot after singing it.
I agree. Lets hope that's an omen for tonight.
Schmidty
05-11-2005, 05:23 PM
Tonight's version of the Solecismic Ratings is presented live from Amherst, New Hampshire. Now, American Idol was all set up to have the contestants sing songs written in Amherst, but no amount of research could produce any.
So, they had to turn to Philadelphia and Nashville. A Tale of Two Cities. Remembering the Dickens classic, there were a lot of beheadings and stories of class conflict. Standard Dickens stuff. We all had to read it in high school, because it's accessible and vastly overrated.
Much like tonight's caderie of performances. Just not all that impressive, not living up to the hype. The contestants knew it. The judges knew it. The audience didn't know it, but they're never let in on anything - Paula passes out her happy pills as they come in the door.
1A. Vonzell. Her first song started out in a disasterous manner. She was off-tempo, unhappy about something. Not sure what was going on, but it may have been just home-sickness. She picked it up a bit in the closing bars, but it was still an unmemorable performance. Her second song was one of the precious few highlights of the evening. She sang with energy, and hit a much higher percentage of her notes than usual. Scores of 65 and 87.
1B. Bo. He picked a safe first song, and sung it passably. It was a snooze-fest with a degree of difficulty approaching a rousing round of Frere Jacques. Bo's grandmother responded by showing him the bottom of her daughter's shoes. In Alabama, that means your very soul is in danger. Bo responded by singing a tribute to Donald Trump in the second song. I think he's a Kendra fan myself. It wasn't great, but it had energy and Bo's usual professionalism. Scores of 70 and 82.
3. Carrie. Her opener was the best peformance of the night. She clearly enjoyed herself, and while she seemed a bit tired in the late innings, it was a solid double into the gap. Everything fell apart for her with the second song. She was uncharacteristically off-key throughout the performance, and it was without a doubt her worst job to date. Scores of 88 and 56.
4. Anthony. Tonight, he seemed to like holding his notes a little too long. And tonight, many of those notes were embarrassingly wrong. Seeing him up there with the other three was a lot like one of those old Sesame Street puzzles, "which one of these things just doesn't belong." Well, if you guessed it's Anthony, you'd be dead on. Strangely enough, both he and Carrie chose the same "Philadelphia" song. Just after they bragged that one of their songs is on the radio once every few minutes. Neither rendition was worth a damn. Scores of 55 and 56.
To date:
1. Carrie 83
2. Bo 80
3. Vonzell 74
4. Anthony 62
At this point, I have to think the Anthony craze has just about run its course. I didn't mind seeing Scott go last week, but if he stays another week, it's at the expense of a much more deserving singer. And that shouldn't happen.
Jim, I love your games, but your taste in music sucks cow-balls. Bo kicked ass. I had goosebumps. Maybe that's partly because my wife is head-over-heels for him, but still. Come on man, he was AT LEAST as good as Carrie (who was great too). I just think you're totally biased toward Carrie, which is all good I guess. :)
Schmidty
05-11-2005, 05:24 PM
By the way, I just watched it again on Tivo, and I really think Bo is amazing. Carrie is as well. Either of them could win it all and deserve it. I just think that Bo is a MUCH better performer.
finkenst
05-11-2005, 05:39 PM
and vonzell was just horrible last night.
almost as bad as ... Janae(?)'s performance in the first final 12 show.
and vonzell was just horrible last night.
almost as bad as ... Janae(?)'s performance in the first final 12 show.
just in the first one? they all sucked.
Ksyrup
05-11-2005, 08:08 PM
Do they go out of their way to pick the lamest music they can find for these ensemble songs? Islands in the Stream?! Run for the hills!!!
The Ford commercial-song was a bust too....
Schmidty
05-11-2005, 08:25 PM
Do they go out of their way to pick the lamest music they can find for these ensemble songs? Islands in the Stream?! Run for the hills!!!
What do you call Dolly Pardon laying down in a river?
Thanks to my 4th grade shop class!!!!!!!!!!
Easy Mac
05-11-2005, 08:28 PM
All right america!!! 2 for 2... The V goes next week.
anthony is gone... I'm kinda sad.
Ksyrup
05-11-2005, 08:31 PM
Anthony Federov, you've just been kicked off of American Idol. Where are you going?
I'm going to Disney World...to sing for a living!
ice4277
05-11-2005, 08:35 PM
Ugh, Fedorov sucked. The only disappointment for me is that he stuck around this long.
Glengoyne
05-11-2005, 08:58 PM
I think it is sad that Carrie's probably going to win this thing. For me Vonzell out sings her time after time. Anthony put her away when they sang the same song. She is lucky she went first. I'm most impressed with Vonzell week after week. Bo would be my second choice, but really if Carrie isn't going to try and stretch herself, she doesn't deserve to win.
FBPro
05-11-2005, 08:58 PM
IMO, the best three are the one's left........(wasn't the case last year). Should be an interesting finish.
Schmidty
05-11-2005, 09:24 PM
I think it is sad that Carrie's probably going to win this thing. For me Vonzell out sings her time after time. Anthony put her away when they sang the same song. She is lucky she went first. I'm most impressed with Vonzell week after week. Bo would be my second choice, but really if Carrie isn't going to try and stretch herself, she doesn't deserve to win.
Vonzell is better than Bo and Carrie? Ouch.
I bet you were a big fan of "Titanic".
Cuckoo
05-11-2005, 09:44 PM
Vonzell is very good, and I've consistently liked her more and more each week. I think she can make a career in the music business if she makes the right decisions.
That said, the finale should be Bo and Carrie in my opinion. And I honestly don't know which one should win right now, but I'm leaning towards Bo.
Glengoyne
05-11-2005, 09:46 PM
Vonzell is better than Bo and Carrie? Ouch.
I bet you were a big fan of "Titanic".
Not exactly my point. I'm a fan of Bo. He was, in my opinion, the first of this year's contestants to step up. Carrie has done little more than play it safe week after week. Bo slipped into that for a while, but has lately done as well or better than he was early in the competition.
My point is that Vonzell has improved vastly week after week since she became a finalist. I think she has easilly out performed Carrie over the last several weeks. Carrie should have gone home after last night, because she had the worst performance since Scott two weeks ago. Yes I think Scott of last week was better than Carrie's second song this week.
I'd not have a problem with Bo winning, in fact I'm rooting for him. My thought is that of the women left, Vonzell is performing better than Carrie.
Actually I was one of the original haters of Titanic. I hated Titanic before it was cool to hate Titianic.
MizzouRah
05-11-2005, 09:50 PM
IMO, the best three are the one's left........(wasn't the case last year). Should be an interesting finish.
I agree.
Go Carrie!!
Todd
Easy Mac
05-11-2005, 09:54 PM
I actually think Vonzell has regressed the past few weeks. For a while she was doing pretty well, but I think her weaknesses are showing a bit more of late.
mtolson
05-11-2005, 11:37 PM
I actually think Vonzell has regressed the past few weeks. For a while she was doing pretty well, but I think her weaknesses are showing a bit more of late.
I agree somewhat. However, even with her regressions she is still on par with Carrie. Technically, Carrie may not make as many mistakes as Vonzell (except this week !). However, Vonzell has the ability to rise to the occasion and rarely plays it safe. She chooses hard songs to sing each week that can expose her weakness. The songs may be big gambles but when she pulls them of she shines way above the rest. Both women are very attractive, but I think when all is said and done, Vonzell is much more entertaining to listen to and watch, weaknesses and all. FWIW, Carrie has been showing weaknesses in showmanship from day one and as of late its crossing over into her singing. R&B just is not her genre and it showed badly.
It really boils down to what style and genre of music you may prefer. I have seen some comments about Vonzell yelling or screaming when she is doing no different that Pattie Labelle, Mariah, Whitney, Chaka, etc... the list goes on. Not that screaming is good, but it is part of the contemporary R&B style. Carrie is more traditional in her approach which is just fine for country music. For what its worth, I think Bo yells and screams half of his songs. However, I am not much of a rock fan and the only CD I can say I own remotely close to this genre would be Evanescense, so my knowlege for Rock vocals is severly limited. Even though I think he yells a lot, I believe he has a excellent singing voice.
I guess I am a little biased as I have been a fan of Vonzell for a while. I would have loved to see her battle with Latoya and Jennifer last year. That would have been tough.
My rankings of those left are:
1) Vonzell
2) Bo
3) Carrie
Sorry, Carrie just has to many limitations to overcome. She is more suited for the Nashville Star show.
With that said, it will probably be Carrie and Bo next week with Carrie winning it all. The girl has never even been in the bottom (I don't believe) and she must have a real big fan base.
Just 2 cents from a musician.
EagleFan
05-11-2005, 11:39 PM
I actually think Vonzell has regressed the past few weeks. For a while she was doing pretty well, but I think her weaknesses are showing a bit more of late.
I agree. Yet somehow the judges keep piling on the praise. It should be Carrie and Bo in the finals but that seemed to be the case from week one so it wouldn't be a surprise.
Vonzel deserves to be top 3, but is not a top two candidate. She gets too pitchy and then just pulls off one moment in the song and gets too much credit for that. Plus I still have no real feel for her personality. She's not sure if she wants to be a diva or the girl next door. She needs to stick with the girl next door part as she loses a lot of points in my book when she goes for the diva.
mtolson
05-11-2005, 11:40 PM
Damn, I just noticed I only have 60 posts and I have been around since the boards inception. I am your true definition of a lurker :eek:
Ksyrup
05-12-2005, 06:51 AM
Carrie's the better vocalist, Vonzell's the better performer. Carrie would do better in a studio, while Vonzell needs the energy and mania (not to mention the band and backup singers) of a live performance to pull off her songs. I think Carrie would do better releasing an album, but Vonzell will be the top performer on the tour.
I guess Bo's screwed no matter what at this point - in terms of having to release an album through Simon's label - so he might as well win. I just hope they put him in a Black Crowes-type setting with him being the featured part of a band, as opposed to trying to make him the main focus, with the band and music secondary to him. That's not what he wants (I don't think), that's not what he's good at, and that's not the best utilization of his talent.
Ksyrup
05-12-2005, 07:30 AM
I didn't hear about this:
The show, broadcast live from Los Angeles, has been racked by controversy as it winds down to a May 24-25 finale. The latest snafu came after Tuesday's show continued previous "Idol" voting problems.
The dial-in phone number for Underwood was displayed on the closed-captioning for all the contestants, possibly aiding her survival. The correct numbers, however, were shown with on-screen graphics and announced by Seacrest.
A statement issued Wednesday by Fox read, "the producers and network apologize to our hearing-impaired viewers for any confusion, and the situation was immediately corrected for our tape-delayed West Coast broadcast."
Ajaxab
05-12-2005, 08:06 AM
There's something cynically funny about a voting problem for hearing impaired viewers on a show conceivably based around how people sound.
Mustang
05-12-2005, 08:18 AM
If the voting segment that used closed captioning was that large, Mikalah would still be on..
Personally, I'm rooting for Bo.. out of all the contestants, I'm remembering his songs & performances the most from this season.
mtolson
05-12-2005, 08:42 AM
If the voting segment that used closed captioning was that large, Mikalah would still be on..
LOL :)
Cuckoo
05-12-2005, 09:25 AM
There's something cynically funny about a voting problem for hearing impaired viewers on a show conceivably based around how people sound.
:D
Daimyo
05-12-2005, 10:25 AM
Has to be Bo and Carrie in the final... I think you could have pegged that from week one of the final 12. Bo should win. I think he's the only idol contestant ever to outsing a good number of the original versions of the songs. However, given that the best contestant IMO has never won an idol I predict that Carrie will win this one.
Ksyrup
05-12-2005, 10:34 AM
I think Carrie will win. Bo is the only Idol contestant I will have bothered to keep up with after the show ends, though, just to see whether he is able to rise above being an AI contestant to do something truly unique - parlay that success into a rock band setting.
Critch
05-12-2005, 10:52 AM
However, given that the best contestant IMO has never won an idol I predict that Carrie will win this one.
Kelly wasn't the best in season one? I'd probably also put Fantasia as best of a bad lot last season too.
Bound to be Carrie v Bo in the final, probably Carrie winning. I'm hoping for Bo or Vonzell winning, but Carrie seems to have the following. Unlike previous seasons though, there hasn't been a week this season where I've vowed to never watch again cos the voting public are stupid, all the contestants are too meh to get worked up about for me. None of the highs of previous seasons, but none of the lows either.
Daimyo
05-12-2005, 01:33 PM
Kelly wasn't the best in season one? I'd probably also put Fantasia as best of a bad lot last season too.
I thought Tamyra was much better in season #1 (and probably the best idol contestant they've ever had). Kelly was a lot better than anyone else that season though. Christina got points for being cute, but everyone else was pretty bad all-around.
I didn't watch season 2 after the auditions as my wife had class that night and it was pre-TiVo for us so I could be wrong there... just from what I've heard since I can't imagine Reuben was the best.
For season 3 I thought LaToya was the best overall. I'd agree that Fantasia had the most memorable performances (and maybe the top two individual performances in idol history), but I also thought she had a couple terrible, unlistenable ones too... plus I just didn't care much for the sound of her voice and I think that carried over into her singing a lot. I guess I'd put her #2 that year ahead of Jasmine, George, and Jennifer. I disliked Diana almost as much as John Stevens...
Bound to be Carrie v Bo in the final, probably Carrie winning. I'm hoping for Bo or Vonzell winning, but Carrie seems to have the following. Unlike previous seasons though, there hasn't been a week this season where I've vowed to never watch again cos the voting public are stupid, all the contestants are too meh to get worked up about for me. None of the highs of previous seasons, but none of the lows either.
I thought Nadia went home too soon, but you could tell it was coming the way it seemed like she intentionally tried to pick songs that no one heard, but I agree it wasn't near the level of voting Tamrya off in 5th place or Jennifer off before John Stevens or anything that stupid.
FBPro
05-12-2005, 05:57 PM
Fantasia made me ill and one reason was due to the fact that when she would sing ANY song she felt compelled to add 10-20 seconds of "yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah....yeahhhhhhhhhh" to each one whether appropriate or not. My stomach is still turning and I refuse to watch the show now when she sings.
Just my .02
primelord
05-13-2005, 11:05 AM
My wife loves this show and I occasionally watch it with her on the Tivo. I have noticed something odd a few times when I have watched it that I confirmed on last weeks show. When they are recapping the performances they always show the very end of the performance for the final singer. The problem is it isn't the same performance. I had noticed a couple of times that the notes seemed a bit different, but just assumed I was hearing things.
However after this last week Anthony's recap looked quite a bit different to me so I backed the Tivo up and confirmed that the final note they showed in the recap was not the same as the final note in his actual performance. They sounded pretty close, but his hand jestures were different and he was holding the mic in the opposite hand. However in the recap the crowd appears to be there. Where are they getting this footage from?
Cuckoo
05-13-2005, 11:10 AM
My wife loves this show and I occasionally watch it with her on the Tivo. I have noticed something odd a few times when I have watched it that I confirmed on last weeks show. When they are recapping the performances they always show the very end of the performance for the final singer. The problem is it isn't the same performance. I had noticed a couple of times that the notes seemed a bit different, but just assumed I was hearing things.
However after this last week Anthony's recap looked quite a bit different to me so I backed the Tivo up and confirmed that the final note they showed in the recap was not the same as the final note in his actual performance. They sounded pretty close, but his hand jestures were different and he was holding the mic in the opposite hand. However in the recap the crowd appears to be there. Where are they getting this footage from?
They tape the recap from the dress rehearsal. I realized that last season too when things didn't quite mesh.
judicial clerk
05-13-2005, 01:10 PM
I missed this weeks perfomnaces, but I did catch the recap show. Islands in the stream was abysmal. Did anybody else notice that everytime they sang about making love to each other (which comes up alot in the song) they would stop looking at each other. I was hoping that when they sang about making love Bo would have stared at Carrie and stuck his tongue out and pointed at her and started grinding. That would be funny.
I think they probably have the correct final three and I think Vonzell is vulnerable.
They tape the recap from the dress rehearsal. I realized that last season too when things didn't quite mesh.
yep. it was pretty obvious in past seasons also, when the contestants would be wearing different clothes in the recaps from time to time.
From etonline:
It's Judges-Pick Night on 'American Idol'
It's just BO BICE, CARRIE UNDERWOOD and VONZELL SOLOMON when "American Idol" airs tonight at 8 p.m. on FOX, and each of the Final 3 will be performing three songs: a judge's choice, a song that music mogul/producer CLIVE DAVIS selects for them and one that they pick.
"What we try to do is find a song that we know will fit really well in their register or tonally sound great, but challenge them a bit, so they start working on a song that they say is hard, but will be rewarding once they nail it," judge PAULA ABDUL explains. "And that they feel, 'Man, I had to work really hard to get this song, but I had no idea I had that in me.' Hopefully, we as judges can find a song that will do that for them."
The judges' selections: Carrie will be singing SHANIA TWAIN's "Man, I Feel Like a Woman"; Bo will rock out on the ROLLING STONES' "Satisfaction"; and Vonzell goes disco with DONNA SUMMER's "On the Radio."
Clive selected ROY ORBISON's "Cryin'" for Carrie; DIONNE WARWICK's "I'll Never Love This Way Again" for Vonzell and ELTON JOHN's "Don't Let The Sun Go Down on Me" for Bo.
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I think this is the first time a Shania Twain song will be sung on the show, she's previously not let her songs be sung. But it should be interesting seeing Bo sing Elton John.
rkmsuf
05-17-2005, 03:09 PM
how many farging songs must these people sing?
I can't even imagine why this show is still so popular.
I'll probably miss tonights show for the basketball game... look forward to the recaps :)
Ksyrup
05-17-2005, 03:16 PM
The judges' choices are perfect - even down to sticking Vonzell with a disco song. It was either that, or some 80's pop song like Flashdance for her.
judicial clerk
05-17-2005, 03:42 PM
So what song would you guys pick for each singer?
If it was my choice, it would be hard to not pick songs designed to embarass the contestants.
Ksyrup
05-17-2005, 03:47 PM
Carrie - In the Year 2525
Bo - Penny Lane
Vonzell - Plush
I like all the choices. Crying by Roy Orbison is one of my all-time favorite songs. However, I almost wrecked my car to put me out of my misery the last time Donna Summer's "On the Radio" came on.
how many farging songs must these people sing?
I can't even imagine why this show is still so popular.
need to fill up the hour. 3 songs each is better than 1 song each and 45 minutes of Ryan Seacrest.
rkmsuf
05-17-2005, 04:18 PM
need to fill up the hour. 3 songs each is better than 1 song each and 45 minutes of Ryan Seacrest.
I can't believe people will sit through 9 songs from them over the hour.
I can't believe people will sit through a lot of things, including most of the movies and music people talk about on here, either. I do realize that very few people share my exact tastes, though.
Ksyrup
05-17-2005, 04:23 PM
I enjoy the show. I hate the idea of the show and everything it stands for in this society, but...screw it. It's not like I'm going to shell out money for one of their albums - hell, I'll never even buy a Ford - but it's somewhat entertaining a couple of hours a week.
Ksyrup
05-17-2005, 07:06 PM
Vonzell - first 30 seconds: horrid, absolutely horrid.
Make that 1 minute.
Ugh!
Ksyrup
05-17-2005, 07:07 PM
That guy's effin' deaf! She hit no notes!
Easy Mac
05-17-2005, 07:07 PM
We've learned that for her to be effective, she needs to only do big notes, because she has no idea what to do with a normal note, or how to move from one to another.
Randy - "You're one of the best singers left in this competition."
No shit Randy, there's 3 fucking people.
Ksyrup
05-17-2005, 07:09 PM
Or sing a song that's got a lot of music and backup singers involved...
Easy Mac
05-17-2005, 07:14 PM
I think Bo sounds a little off tonight. I didn't really like this song choice for Bo.
Schmidty
05-17-2005, 07:14 PM
I enjoy the show. I hate the idea of the show and everything it stands for in this society, but...screw it. It's not like I'm going to shell out money for one of their albums - hell, I'll never even buy a Ford - but it's somewhat entertaining a couple of hours a week.
Totally the way I feel. Plus, wife makes me watch it.
Easy Mac
05-17-2005, 07:16 PM
Man, I really thought Bo sounded pretty poor with the song, I guess that why I'm not a judge.
Scoobz0202
05-17-2005, 07:17 PM
I thought Bo sounded pretty good, actually.
Ksyrup
05-17-2005, 07:17 PM
I didn't think Bo was THAT great. However, Simon's comment has me worried for him. If his first album is goign to be nothing but sappy Elton John-type songs rather than rockers...yuck!
Easy Mac
05-17-2005, 07:18 PM
Carrie sounds alright. I thought she started the song better than she's finishing... much better. She wants to go to the "twang" too often. Sometimes its just not right for the song sweetie
Ksyrup
05-17-2005, 07:37 PM
OK, Bo just earned my respect. Tackling Ray Gillen without a band - what a bad-ass.
Eaglesfan27
05-17-2005, 07:38 PM
OK, Bo just earned my respect. Tackling Ray Gillen without a band - what a bad-ass.
Agreed. Awesome rendition.
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