NFL games - 1/23/05

[DaddyTorgo]

gametime. i'd love to sit here and post, but then I won't be able to watch. And I'd rather watch. So I'll catch up with y'all after the game.

edit: why are the announcers saying Owens will be back for the SB? I thought tk said that was basically impossible???

[tucker rocky]

I like Freddy Mitchell's hairstyle, what a combo. :D

[Eaglesfan27]

Is NE playing themselves? :D
Hey! I'm overcome with joy right now. Can't blame me for a little mistake ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

Also, I think anyone who is thinking that the Patriots will destroy Philly is deluding themselves. The Patriots and Steelers are both very good teams, but I don't think either of them are that much better than the Eagles that they are guaranteed to win.

[cthomer5000]

what's the deal with the title belt inthe upper right?
http://www.lovetohate.us/fofc/eagles.jpg

[Qwikshot]

how is it that Dirk Johnson can get off good punts into the wind but Atlanta's cant?
Falcons are a dome team right, maybe that's it?

[Ben E Lou]

Hey! I'm overcome with joy right now. Can't blame me for a little mistake ;)Yeah, when your coach gets hypothermia, then let's see how overcome with joy you are. ;)

Congrats. The better team won this one.

As far as the "house money" comment, I got the impression that it was a response to Donovan's absurd comment that the pressure was on the Falcons this week, rather than the Eagles. Based on what I've seen of Mora, I seriously doubt that was an expression of his overall approach to the game. Did you see him throw down his headset and stomp on it? That guy's a fireball.

[JAG]

Kudos to the Eagles for their regular season and playoff play. It's not since the '91 Redskins team that I've seen one NFC team just completely dominate all others in the conference.

[Dutch]

Title Belt = Rocky

As James Brown pointed out, "Yo Adrian! We made it!"

[Ben E Lou]

I like Freddy Mitchell's hairstyle, what a combo. :DBetween Vick's braids, Duckett and McNabb's beards, and whatever the heck that is on Mitchell's head, there was some UGLY hair on display today. ;)

[Ragone]

As far as the "house money" comment, I got the impression that it was a response to Donovan's absurd comment that the pressure was on the Falcons this week, rather than the Eagles. Based on what I've seen of Mora, I seriously doubt that was an expression of his overall approach to the game. Did you see him throw down his headset and stomp on it? That guy's a fireball.

I'm sorry.. thats still not a statement that any head coach can make.. it sounds complacent, and not something you wanna try and explain to your players after a practice..

i'm sure mora jr had a 2 way conversation with his dad.. his dad was like "son, throw something, you look too happy to be losing"

[Eaglesfan27]

I like McNabb's answer to the question of if the pressure is off him. He responded that it wasn't and nothing less than the Super Bowl win would be good enough to paraphrase him.

[Ben E Lou]

I'm sorry.. thats still not a statement that any head coach can make.. it sounds complacent, and not something you wanna try and explain to your players after a practice..

i'm sure mora jr had a 2 way conversation with his dad.. his dad was like "son, throw something, you look too happy to be losing"Well, first of all, get his name right. Second, that ain't the first time he's stomped his headset this year. The guy is that firey.

[Cringer]

Brian Dawkins needs to relax for a moment and enjoy this.....I am worried he is gonna blow a fuse or something....

[cthomer5000]

Did you see him throw down his headset and stomp on it? That guy's a fireball.
I think this is a matter of perspective. I thought it looked infantile, whiny, and unprofessional.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yeah, when your coach gets hypothermia, then let's see how overcome with joy you are. ;)

Congrats. The better team won this one.

As far as the "house money" comment, I got the impression that it was a response to Donovan's absurd comment that the pressure was on the Falcons this week, rather than the Eagles. Based on what I've seen of Mora, I seriously doubt that was an expression of his overall approach to the game. Did you see him throw down his headset and stomp on it? That guy's a fireball.
It's funny. My first thought when I saw them pour the Gatorade on Reid was, "He is going to become hypothermic." Still a great site to see :)

[Ben E Lou]

Brian Dawkins needs to relax for a moment and enjoy this.....I am worried he is gonna blow a fuse or something....My first thought was "Hmmmmmm.....I wonder if they have this on delay, 'cause who knows what he's going to say?" ;)

[Dutch]

Between Vick's braids, Duckett and McNabb's beards, and whatever the heck that is on Mitchell's head, there was some UGLY hair on display today. ;)

What is this, some kind of beauty pageant where nobody wins????

[Ben E Lou]

I think this is a matter of perspective. I thought it looked infantile, whiny, and unprofessional.In this case, I agree, unless he really thought we were the better team, which it didn't look like to me.

[korme]

The play that personified this loss was the Vick rollout when the LB was right there in his face when he got there. If that isn't open, the Falcons are always going to struggle, because it signifies that the handoffs aren't going to be working by and large, either.

Catch the dadgum ball, Jenkins.
couldn't agree with you more, they simply contained Vick all day, and made him throw the football.

[Celeval]

Is it this usual for 10-year olds to sing the Anthem? A Pennsylvania thing?

Seriously, that just caught me as odd. :-D

[Cringer]

What is this, some kind of beauty pageant where nobody wins????

Uhm, yeah!! They don't wear tight pants for the fun of hit, it's to show their packages.... :p

[SirFozzie]

Well.. what time is it?

GAME TIME.

The only thing I have to say is.. whoever comes out of this one, win it all.

It's time.. to do it to it.

[Buccaneer]

Oh well. Good season, and plenty to build on. We definitely got farther then expected this year. The Falcons need one more wide receiver and some more development from Vick to take it to the next level.
And another very weak NFC?

[korme]

After seeing that interview, I personally like Dawkins' style. What a leader.

[Swaggs]

I can't wait any longer!!!

I'm going to have to run laps around the house if they don't start up soon!

[Dr. Sak]

Let's Go Steelers!

Make it a PA sweep!

[JonInMiddleGA]

It all comes down to whether Vick can be Vick in those conditions. My guess is no, and if not, the Falcons will be lucky to score an offensive touchdown at all. If Vick is ineffective, or even just an average QB, the Eagles pack the box, stuff Dunn & Duckett & it's over.

Lemme see here ...
Today, Vick had 133 passing, 26 rushing on 4 carries

In the first 14 games (prior to clinching the division) ...
That's his lowest rushing yarding since the season opener
That's his 2nd fewest carries (only 2 against Oakland)
That's his lowest total offense of the season (since the opener)

It looked much more like a product of the Eagles defense than the weather, but the result is the same -- if Vick doesn't do Vick-like things, the chances of a mediocre offense (and an abysmal O-Line) producing a win are very very slim.

[Cringer]

Lemme see here ...
Today, Vick had 133 passing, 26 rushing on 4 carries

In the first 14 games (prior to clinching the division) ...
That's his lowest rushing yarding since the season opener
That's his 2nd fewest carries (only 2 against Oakland)
That's his lowest total offense of the season (since the opener)

It looked much more like a product of the Eagles defense than the weather, but the result is the same -- if Vick doesn't do Vick-like things, the chances of a mediocre offense (and an abysmal O-Line) producing a win are very very slim.

In other words, if he can't run he just is not a good enough QB to lead an offense....

[Buccaneer]

I think this is a matter of perspective. I thought it looked infantile, whiny, and unprofessional.
That's funny, I got up from a siesta and saw that they were interviewing McNabb. Good sign! But my wife who was watching the game said that the Falcons coach was acting like an asshole so she has now put them on her 'hate' list.

[Ragone]

In other words, if he can't run he just is not a good enough QB to lead an offense....


But... But.. Micheal Vick is Hof worthy :)

[Buccaneer]

In other words, if he can't run he just is not a good enough QB to lead an offense....
Hence, the comparisons to Kordell Stewart (except that Stewart needed stationary receivers).

I'm glad we don't have to talk anymore about this until July. Too much for one season.

[Eaglesfan27]

Not a good start for Ben or the Steelers :(

[kingfc22]

Oops. :D

[Cringer]

Well, the defense stopped the Pats, I guess thats good.

[kingfc22]

"Can an opposing kicker make a long FG?" What kind of quesiton is that with Vinatieri kicking.

[cthomer5000]

they stuffed the hell out of that run.

[kingfc22]

Denied. I would have punted and pinned them back.

[Dr. Sak]

I think everyone in the stands and watching on TV knew that Bettis was getting the ball up the middle. You cant be that predictable.

[cthomer5000]

why in the world did they run into the hole the guard just pulled out of?

[JAG]

Wow.

[Cringer]

That pass was just crazy, great throw!

[kingfc22]

Woot!!! Bring on the Eagles.

Ok, maybe a bit premature, but I just get the feeling that the Pats are out to destroy the Steelers for ending their winning streak earlier this season.

[Icy]

WOW was that Tom Brady or P.Manning?

[temley06]

The Pats are to tough for the Steelers.

[Ragone]

That was alot better catch then a Throw..

Go Deion Branch!

[cthomer5000]

It's not over yet, but it sure ain't looking good.

[SirFozzie]

it's still early. All it is a good start. Gotta play 60 minutes..

[temley06]

WOW was that Tom Brady or P.Manning?

Manning usually doesn't play this well at this time of the year.

[Joe]

steelers need a score early, ben isnt the qb i want leading a comeback late in the game.

[Buccaneer]

The Falcons need one more wide receiver
I hear that Randy Moss might be available (source: espn and ap). You get him and you'll see the Falcons be even more of a hated team through the US.

[JonInMiddleGA]

In other words, if he can't run he just is not a good enough QB to lead an offense....

Well, if you'll extend that to "... lead this offense", then you won't get an argument from me.

Then again, I don't think a Frankenstein creation of Unitas/Elway/Montana gets this team any farther than Vick did.

(And I don't believe you've ever seen me argue that Vick's throwing ability was going to get him anywhere anyway.)

[JonInMiddleGA]

From your mouth to God's ear, Bucc.

[Noop]

Chris Hope big hit... Florida State baby.

[cthomer5000]

The Steelers have really buckled down on defense. This may be a game yet.

[Eaglesfan27]

The Steelers have really buckled down on defense. This may be a game yet.

Definitely. I'm not too worried about the Steeler's defense. I just hope the offense can keep up. The Steelers really need to run the ball better.

[kingfc22]

Another perfect downfield pass by Brady.

[Celeval]

Troy Polamalu's hair is having trouble covering Deion Branch.

[Eaglesfan27]

Maybe I spoke too quickly about the Pittsburgh defense..

[kingfc22]

TD Pats.

[Cringer]

(And I don't believe you've ever seen me argue that Vick's throwing ability was going to get him anywhere anyway.)

Actually I have stayed away from the Vick discussions, especially the Vick...HoF thread, have not even been into that one. So I have no idea really were certian guys stand on Vick and his talent.

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To the Pats-Steelers game, just not looking good here for the Steelers now. These games are not exactly what was expected so far eh?

[QuikSand]

The Patriots continue to keep opponents on their heels. Last week, they dinked and dunked and pounded away, proving to bee too physical for the Colts D, on balance. This week, they shift gears, and take their shots downfield as their bread and butter.

Say what you want about these Pats (and I'm not claiming the game is over) but they do more things well than possibly any team I have ever seen.

[kingfc22]

Bye Bye Ben.

[cthomer5000]

uh oh.

[TLK]

thats all folks

[Eaglesfan27]

I agree with Quiksand, but I think this game is over.

I still think the Eagles will make it competitive, and I think it is insane for people to be overly confident that the Patriots are going to beat the Eagles in the Superbowl.

[kingfc22]

This Patriots TEAM is just riduclous. They do everything right, all the time. Simply amazing.

[temley06]

Ben didn't put up much of an effort.

[Dutch]

I agree. *IF* the field conditions are bad, the Falcons will lose. If the field conditions are good, they are going to have to hope for the usual Eagles collapse.

Eagles should still be favored in this game regardless of weather.

As for the AFC, I'm wondering if Rothlesberger is about to implode....

At the end of the day?

Philadelphia and New England in the Super Bowl.

Damn, you got your shit together, brother! Nice job.

[Buccaneer]

One just does not bet on rookie QBs in the playoffs. I think "playoffs experience" is almost as mythical as "clutch hitting" but I think that's a key to the Pats success.

[kingfc22]

One just does not bet on rookie QBs in the playoffs. I think "playoffs experience" is almost as mythical as "clutch hitting" but I think that's a key to the Pats success.
Does that make Brady a god or something. He has playoff experience and he is clutch.http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[cthomer5000]

Ooooh.... dreaming of a free kick.

[kingfc22]

What happens to Cowher if the Steelers lose? This would be another AFC Championship game loss and another one at home no less.

[Desnudo]

What happens to Cowher if the Steelers lose? This would be another AFC Championship game loss and another one at home no less.

He's still a better coach than the majority in the NFL.

[Recoil]

I still think the Eagles will make it competitive, and I think it is insane for people to be overly confident that the Patriots are going to beat the Eagles in the Superbowl.

If the Steelers can't even hang with the Pats, how can the Eagles be expected to? I doubt I'll even watch the SB at this point as I really believe that nobody in the NFL can stop New England. They're just too good.

[cthomer5000]

What happens to Cowher if the Steelers lose? This would be another AFC Championship game loss and another one at home no less.
Nothing. He cries in the bathroom alone, and then probably signs a contract extension.

He's got a rookie QB and the Pats are clearly the better team. What can you do?

[Dutch]

If not winning in the Championship Game at home, twice is the baseline for firing head coaches, then I guess everybody in the league should be fired.

My guess: He's gonna be around for a few more years.

[temley06]

Would you stick with Roethlisberger?

[cthomer5000]

If not winning in the Championship Game at home, twice is the baseline for firing head coaches, then I guess everybody in the league should be fired.

My guess: He's gonna be around for a few more years.
Well Dutch, FWIW I believe this would be his 4th AOC Championship game loss at home.

[cthomer5000]

Would you stick with Roethlisberger?
Tough decision. If he's genuinely hurt, I sit him down. Otherwise I think I stick with him for the future of the franchise.

[kingfc22]

Yikes those stands are empty. Looks like everyone went home to get warm.

[temley06]

Are the fans slow getting back to their seats or have they all left?

[cthomer5000]

Well, the Steelers defense keeps hope alive for now. Gotta hope for a crap punt and good field position.

[cthomer5000]

I'm sorry, but that have to get Bettis out of this game. The Pats are jamming the interior run extremely well. Ithink they need to spread things out.

[cthomer5000]

alright, alright! Now can the defense stuff them again?

[Joe]

hmm maybe theyve got a chance after all

[cthomer5000]

absolutely back-breaking penalty. and apparently a shakey call.

[Joe]

oooh fumble

[temley06]

That's irony, the Pats benefitting from a def. holding call.

[Joe]

i think that knee is down

[cthomer5000]

I think the fumble call will easily get overturned here.

[temley06]

If this call gets reversed, does the PF penalty stand?

[Dutch]

Well Dutch, FWIW I believe this would be his 4th AOC Championship game loss at home.

I must confess that I was somebody who thought Dungy should go to give us a chance to win the Super Bowl even after Dungy brought us out of the NFL cellar.

[Joe]

yeah, they penalty will stand, since it wasn't connected to the play.

[Ragone]

If this call gets reversed, does the PF penalty stand?

yep.. its tacked on to the end of the play

[temley06]

OUCH!

[Joe]

bonehead steelers

[Joe]

whats that? having dillon wont make a difference? ok

[Dutch]

If this call gets reversed, does the PF penalty stand?

The guy had a personal foul. That cannot be reversed because of a dead ball situation.

[cthomer5000]

I just can't see the Steelers scoring 3 more touchdowns without the Pats scoring at all.

[Ragone]

Game over man

[Dutch]

Ouch. Okay, this looks like a good time to get off the couch today and actually do something. :)

[QuikSand]

Huge instant replay call. Correct, I believe, but huge.

[Joe]

yeah definitely huge. but it saved big ben from throwing another INT

[TLK]

I'm glad I took the Pats today... it'll help me get over my realization that the Lions will never make the Super Bowl in my lifetime :)

[Joe]

I'm glad I took the Pats today... it'll help me get over my realization that the Lions will never make the Super Bowl in my lifetime :)

but will they make the playoffs in your lifetime?

[TLK]

but will they make the playoffs in your lifetime?
next year.... there's always next year

[cthomer5000]

Steelers, listen to me. Keep Bettis off the field unless it's a short yardage situation.

[Joe]

booo new england ball. come on!

[Joe]

Steelers, listen to me. Keep Bettis off the field unless it's a short yardage situation.

does it really matter at this point?

[Joe]

got lucky again with that almost-interception

[cthomer5000]

does it really matter at this point?
If you're trying to win the game, yes. The only thing they're achieving by running Bettis is putting themselves in X and long situations and running the clock.

[Desnudo]

Bettis got lucky they blew that play dead. Definitely a fumble.

[cthomer5000]

Boom. Still a game, and I win my second half over bet.

[Joe]

hmm... ben is alright when not throwing interceptions

[SirFozzie]

Great play by the kid there. As I sad, this is not over by a longshot..

and that WAS A fumble, but there was no way they could tell who recovered it, so i guess that's a good non-call.

[Joe]

no way is that a catch

[cthomer5000]

Incredibly huge review coming up here. No catch.

[cthomer5000]

The endzone angle looks pretty clear to me that almost the entire ball hammers the ground.

[QuikSand]

Tough call on the IR... doesn't look conclusive to me.

[temley06]

no catch

[Noop]

There is going to be alot of dick punching in Pitt tonight.

[kingfc22]

Isn't this the Bert Emmanuel rule. So it would be catch....

[cthomer5000]

Tough call on the IR... doesn't look conclusive to me.
I certainly don't envy the ref. I think this is as close a call as possible.

[JAG]

Tough call. I'll be interested to see their interpretation.

[cthomer5000]

Randel El has been great in the second half.

[Joe]

good thing they left bettis out there

[Joe]

and harrison is down. uh-oh

[temley06]

This would be a big loss for NE

[kingfc22]

NE's defense is on their heels right now.

[cthomer5000]

Isn't this the Keenan McCardell rule. So it would be catch....
You had it right the first time, Bert Emmanual was the guy. From the Tampa/St. Louis championship game in 99.

[Desnudo]

I wonder if Asante Samuel practices with the Seahawks receivers in the offseason.

[cthomer5000]

If they get in the endzone, things may get a little uncomfortable in New England.

[kingfc22]

Knew it was that game just couldn't remember the receiver.

[Vince]

Shouldn't there be 7 seconds left on the clock if Ward stepped out of bounds?

[kingfc22]

I wonder if Asante Samuel practices with the Seahawks receivers in the offseason.
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[cthomer5000]

Shouldn't there be 7 seconds left on the clock if Ward stepped out of bounds?
Unless you are in the last 5 minutes of either half, the clock restarts when the refs set the ball and signal they're ready for play.

[Joe]

nice hands, burress

[SirFozzie]

Shouldn't there be 7 seconds left on the clock if Ward stepped out of bounds?

up until the final 5 minutes (I think) the clock runs when they place the ball after a out of bounds play.

[kingfc22]

Go or kick??

[cthomer5000]

what? terrible play-calling on this series at the goal line.

[Joe]

tough break

[kingfc22]

Key stand for the Pats defense. The Steelers had them on the ropes.

[Joe]

kicking was the right decision, they wouldve gotten stuffed again

[cthomer5000]

I'd be going bonkers if I'm a Steerlers fan right now. If you're willing to kick the ball, why not try to pound it in there 3 times in row? I just think coaches don't think 1 step ahead sometimes.

[JAG]

what? terrible play-calling on this series at the goal line.

Exactly. Why did they change from what was working to two runs up the gut and a throw to a double-covered Plaxico? You might as well have handed the Patriots a script.

[cthomer5000]

Very, very big 3rd down coming up. The clock is really going to become a factor, since the Steelers have to score twice. You can't let the Pats move the ball at all.

[Joe]

tick... tick.... tick...

[kingfc22]

Keep giving the ball to Dillon.

[kingfc22]

dola

Stay in bounds!!

[cthomer5000]

Best case scenario for the Steelers would be a missed field goal on this drive. Time is going to be a major factor soon, and a touchdown here = death.

[Joe]

clock killin corey dillon

[Joe]

doink... in

[cthomer5000]

Must score a touchdown, must do it leaving at least 4 minutes on the clock.

[Joe]

that return wont help much

[temley06]

Need a big return here

[kingfc22]

Game over.

[Joe]

and he's picked. why am i not surprised?

[Joe]

i think it will stand

[cthomer5000]

Deja Vu

[Joe]

yep. told ya.

[kingfc22]

So what will be the opening line?

Pats by 4?

[cthomer5000]

We're creeping into 'miracle' territory now. Maybe next year, Pittsburgh.

[Joe]

nooo! don't retire jerome.

[cthomer5000]

So what will be the opening line?

Pats by 4?
I say 7. If it opens at 4 it will be 7 before you can blink.

[Joe]

pats by 4 sounds about right.

[Craptacular]

Ack. The one team I really didn't want to win the Super Bowl has a chance again. I've grown tired of the Massholes.

[Joe]

nice throw

[cthomer5000]

I think I'd go for it if I'm the Pats.

[Joe]

yep, definitely go for it

[kingfc22]

Ugh. Just remembered that FOX has the SB. Joe Suck will be announcing. :mad:

[Joe]

he got it if theres a decent spot

[Joe]

Ugh. Just remembered that FOX has the SB. Joe Suck will be announcing. :mad:

meh... i'll have the sound off then.

[kingfc22]

I'd be pissed if I was a Steeler season ticket holder over the past 10 years or so. That means you would have witnessed 4 Championship game losses. Ugh!

[Joe]

and another TD.

[Ksyrup]

OK, now they just flashed a graphic about the most consecutive playoff wins, with Brady (currently) tied with 4 guys for 2nd with 7 wins. Then they said that he was tied with Aikman for most consecutive playoff wins to start a career - but didn't the Cowboys lose in the 1991 playoffs to the Lions? Did Aikman not start that game? Am I missing something?

[cthomer5000]

Well, we're one game from legitimately throwing around the word 'dynasty.'

[SirFozzie]

Speaking as a Pats fan, a rare un-classy move by Branch and Harrison. Uncalled for and uncool.

[Joe]

Speaking as a Pats fan, a rare un-classy move by Branch and Harrison. Uncalled for and uncool.

missed it.. what happened? did they moon the fans?

[kingfc22]

did they moon the fans?
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif almost lost my drink

[Craptacular]

OK, now they just flashed a graphic about the most consecutive playoff wins, with Brady (currently) tied with 4 guys for 2nd with 7 wins. Then they said that he was tied with Aikman for most consecutive playoff wins to start a career - but didn't the Cowboys lose in the 1991 playoffs to the Lions? Did Aikman not start that game? Am I missing something? Steve Beurlein started. Aikman was injured.

edit: Aikman came off the bench, but I don't think that counts.

[kingfc22]

So for 2 weeks we are going to hear all about whether or not TO will play and whether or not this team is a dynasty and does Tom Brady = Joe Montana. Did I miss anything?

[Buccaneer]

Pats and Eagles win. w00t! Now I am hoping for the Pats to do the same thing to Philly as they did to Pburg.

[DaddyTorgo]

so can we all agree now not to bet against Bill Belichek in any given game. That was...an incredible game.

[SirFozzie]

missed it.. what happened? did they moon the fans?

As Branch runs in, he waves bye-bye to the Steelers guy comin up.. and Harrison runs up and down the sideline (near the stands.. you know, Rodney, where people can say, THROW THINGS?) doing the same thing.

[Buccaneer]

So for 2 weeks we are going to hear all about whether or not TO will play and whether or not this team is a dynasty and does Tom Brady = Joe Montana. Did I miss anything?
Just imagine what ESPN, Fox and FOFC would have been like if the Falcons had won.

[Joe]

Steve Beurlein started. Aikman was injured.

edit: Aikman came off the bench, but I don't think that counts.

yeah i was gonna say i looked it up and aikman was 11-16, but it didnt say who started

[tucker rocky]

Philadelphia and New England Super Bowl,
I'll be rooting for the Eagles, they look to be more hungrier to win it all.

[Sun Tzu]

It aint over til the fat lady sings, boys.

[Dr. Sak]

No one is going to give the Eagles a snowballs' chance in hell. Just the way I like it.

[Ksyrup]

Steve Beurlein started. Aikman was injured.

edit: Aikman came off the bench, but I don't think that counts.
I guess that explains the outcome. Hey, the Lions need(ed) all the help they could get.

[cthomer5000]

Congratulations Patriots. This has been an incredibly impressive run.

[tucker rocky]

dola,

Pats and Eagles fans, what a mix that'll be here in town. :D

[Joe]

It aint over til the fat lady sings, boys.


she's singing

[Craptacular]

I would say I want to watch the "Big Game" for the commercials, but even those have sucked the last couple of years. Hmm, hopefully a friend will have a "Big Game" party with enough going on that I don't have to watch it.

[Joe]

dola,

Pats and Eagles fans, what a mix that'll be here in town. :D


I'd never wish that on anyone.

[Ragone]

I found it mildly entertaining that Deion Branch found a pittsburgh crying towel and waved it around

[cthomer5000]

I would say I want to watch the "Big Game" for the commercials, but even those have sucked the last couple of years. Hmm, hopefully a friend will have a "Big Game" party with enough going on that I don't have to watch it.
Boy do I love hearing commericials talking about the 'Big Game.' I really get a laugh out of it every time. http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[tucker rocky]

My early prediction,
Eagles by 3, 27-24

[Joe]

hey its joe namath... wheres suzy kolber?

[j51]

We're creeping into 'miracle' territory now. Maybe next year, Pittsburgh.
Hardly, they didn't even make the playoffs 2 years ago. They're merely the New Jersey Devils of a watered down league.

[Buccaneer]

My early prediction,
Eagles by 3, 27-24
I predict otherwise. I recall what happened when McNabb and the team went up against the Bucs in the NFC championship game a couple of years ago. I'm thinking the same sort of thing. 24-7, Pats.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Come 8pm on February 6, I'll be watching the PBR on OLN, just like I did tonight.

I'm not kickin' anything at anybody who has an interest in this year's Super Bowl, but I'm not sure I can't remember a SB that had a matchup that interested me less. Neither team strikes me as likable nor particularly "must-see" teams, just sounds duller than hell to me. And this year's crop of commercials is one of the least-anticipated in years.

[Joe]

Come 8pm on February 6, I'll be watching the PBR on OLN, just like I did tonight.

I'm not kickin' anything at anybody who has an interest in this year's Super Bowl, but I'm not sure I can't remember a SB that had a matchup that interested me less. Neither team strikes me as likable nor particularly "must-see" teams, just sounds duller than hell to me. And this year's crop of commercials is one of the least-anticipated in years.


thats what was said about the panthers-pats last year, and it was one of the best superbowls ever.

[Buccaneer]

Hardly, they didn't even make the playoffs 2 years ago. They're merely the New Jersey Devils of a watered down league.
Not in the AFC. The NFC as a near whole (except for Philly) was so watered down that it makes a tsunami seems like a puddle. Ok, bad joke.

[Dr. Sak]

Opening line...

Pats -6.5

[Ragone]

Come 8pm on February 6, I'll be watching the PBR on OLN, just like I did tonight.

I'm not kickin' anything at anybody who has an interest in this year's Super Bowl, but I'm not sure I can't remember a SB that had a matchup that interested me less. Neither team strikes me as likable nor particularly "must-see" teams, just sounds duller than hell to me. And this year's crop of commercials is one of the least-anticipated in years.

How can you call a possible dynasty in the making in new england "not must see" And philadelphia finally making a Super bowl after 3 straight choke jobs..

I dunno, just sounds like you are dejected after the falcons loss.

[Buccaneer]

Come 8pm on February 6, I'll be watching the PBR on OLN, just like I did tonight.

I'm not kickin' anything at anybody who has an interest in this year's Super Bowl, but I'm not sure I can't remember a SB that had a matchup that interested me less. Neither team strikes me as likable nor particularly "must-see" teams, just sounds duller than hell to me. And this year's crop of commercials is one of the least-anticipated in years.
More unwatchable than NE-Car or Balt-NYG? Hmmm...

[Desnudo]

Come 8pm on February 6, I'll be watching the PBR on OLN, just like I did tonight.

I'm not kickin' anything at anybody who has an interest in this year's Super Bowl, but I'm not sure I can't remember a SB that had a matchup that interested me less. Neither team strikes me as likable nor particularly "must-see" teams, just sounds duller than hell to me. And this year's crop of commercials is one of the least-anticipated in years.

So what teams in the current NFL strike you as likable and "must-see?"

[Buccaneer]

Probably flashy dome teams.

[Noop]

I guess I feel good I finally put someone on my ignore list.

[Aylmar]

The better team won today. Congrats to the Patriots and their fans. You have an awesome team.

[Ragone]

I still think super bowls should be held in alternating bad weather/good weather sites :)

[Desnudo]

Probably flashy dome teams.

Well maybe the Falcons, Colts and Rams can drop down to the Arena league. I hear they don't play defense there, so they might have a shot. ;)

[Desnudo]

More unwatchable than NE-Car or Balt-NYG? Hmmm...

I would rank Raiders-Bucs as the most unwatchable in recent memory.

[Joe]

Well maybe the Falcons, Colts and Rams can drop down to the Arena league. I hear they don't play defense there, so they might have a shot. ;)


don't forget the vikings

[tucker rocky]

I still think super bowls should be held in alternating bad weather/good weather sites :)

Super Bowls should be rotated in every city, just like baseball's All-Star Game.

[Desnudo]

I guess I feel good I finally put someone on my ignore list.

testing.

[Ragone]

Speaking of flashy dome teams

Congratulations Lions and Saints fan!

[tucker rocky]

I would rank Raiders-Bucs as the most unwatchable in recent memory.

I was expecting a shootout, but of course that didn't happen.

[Ragone]

I was expecting a shootout, but of course that didn't happen.

Why was you expecting that.. was the game gonna be played in oakland's parking lot?

[Buccaneer]

We have the Bucs SB year on DVD and I think Gruden by himself made it watchable. Plus you had an awesome offense going up against an awesome defense.

[tucker rocky]

Why was you expecting that.. was the game gonna be played in oakland's parking lot?

It was just wishful thinking then.

[Dutch]

I would rank Raiders-Bucs as the most unwatchable in recent memory.

:p

#1 offense getting crushed by #1 defense is always a good matchup in my book. ;)

[Swaggs]

In conclusion, today was not a good day for a QB to wear #7.

[Ragone]

Super Bowls should be rotated in every city, just like baseball's All-Star Game.

Thats not true.. baseball's all star game always goes to the newest stadiums..

Hasn't been an all-star game in kc in.. 20 years..

[Joe]

did the whole superbowl going to NY thing fall apart?

[Ragone]

Heaven forbid a superbowl is played at a cold weather site.. none of the "big" star sightings.. such as ally mcbeal..

No wardrobe malfunctions would be possible.. unless the 47 layers of clothing falls off of cher.. or whoever they get


And this would be the likely superbowl that a dome team got to the game (read: atlanta or indy) and their fans would complain about that

[Eaglesfan27]

If the Steelers can't even hang with the Pats, how can the Eagles be expected to? I doubt I'll even watch the SB at this point as I really believe that nobody in the NFL can stop New England. They're just too good.
My laptop had one of it's freezes, and I decided to give it some rest while watching the game and then playing some Mercenaries on the Xbox.

Maybe someone else already replied to this, but either way I will reply.

McNabb is much better than Ben at this point in his career. Westbrook is a dangerous running back. Chad Lewis and LJ Smith are both better than Pittsburgh's TE's. The Eagles' defense looks better than the Steelers have the last few weeks. What people seem to forget is that the Eagles were on the road to having just as good a record as the Patriots before they took the last few games off to keep guys fresh. The Eagles will make it competitive. Am I sure they will win? No, of course not. I hope they win, but I must admit the Patriots look very impressive. I think the Eagles will keep it closer than the margin of victory in this New England win.

[Cap Ologist]

yeah i was gonna say i looked it up and aikman was 11-16, but it didnt say who started
Beurlein started. Aikman was injured in week 11 or 12, beurlein went 5-0 including a first round win at Chicago. He was playing pretty well and was on a roll. However, he struggled against Detroit and was pulled for Aikman.

[Desnudo]

Hasn't been an all-star in kc in.. 20 years..

Fixed it for you.

[Ragone]

Fixed it for you.

hehe george brett.. bo jackson :P

[cthomer5000]

Hardly, they didn't even make the playoffs 2 years ago. They're merely the New Jersey Devils of a watered down league.
This is an assinine statement. The Steelers went 16-1 to get to this point, beating both New England and Philadelphia in the process (you know, the two Super Bowl teams). Not to mention the AFC was better than it's ever been (from a techincal, fact-based statndpoint).

[Desnudo]

hehe george brett.. bo jackson :P

George Brett's career is marred by his abuse of pine tar. Bo was much better as a video game running back.

[Ragone]

George Brett's career is marred by his abuse of pine tar. Bo was much better as a video game running back.

alright.. you forced me to do it

Bob Hamelin

[Ksyrup]

alright.. you forced me to do it

Bob Hamelin
Kurt Stillwell
Freddie Patek
Ellie Rodriguez

I don't think Hamelin ever made the all-star team.

[TLK]

what's the deal with the title belt inthe upper right?


--After last night's NFC championship game, Freddie Mitchell of the Eagles put a replica of the World heavyweight title belt around his shoulders and strutted around like Ric Flair. (thanks to Billy Laboska)
Had to figure it was Mitchell related...