So, murder isn't yucky?

[Axxon]

I was watching The Daily Buzz and they were talking about the Michael Jackson case and why the media doesn't expect this case to capture the public's attention like OJ and Scott Peterson.

One of the factors they sited was "The yuck factor will keep people away" which sounds fine but isn't murder pretty darned yucky too?

I'm not saying that molestation isn't extremely, extremely creepy but on the yuck scale, murder, especially murder of a pregnant woman isn't any less yucky.

I wonder if this isn't part of societies acceptance of violence but aversion to sex?

[Klinglerware]

I wonder if this isn't part of societies acceptance of violence but aversion to sex?

Prolly...

[gstelmack]

I wonder if this isn't part of societies acceptance of violence but aversion to sex?
I'm always amused at this statement, since pretty much any killing in a movie is an automatic R, but you can practically watch porno in a PG-13 movie if they avoid showing much nudity...

[Klinglerware]

I'm always amused at this statement, since pretty much any killing in a movie is an automatic R, but you can practically watch porno in a PG-13 movie if they avoid showing much nudity...

What's your definition of porno? Of course you can show porno in a G movie if they took out the nudity (see link below):

hxxp://whitelead.com/jrh/ISPs/index.html#porn

[Axxon]

I'm always amused at this statement, since pretty much any killing in a movie is an automatic R, but you can practically watch porno in a PG-13 movie if they avoid showing much nudity...

Let's see, movies off the top of my head which had killing but no R.

All three star wars movies
Jaws
Princess Bride.
Big Trouble in Little China
Raiders of the Lost Ark movies
Lord of the Rings Movies
Dial M for Murder
Patton
Logans Run
Most James Bond Movies

Lets not even get into the old westerns and old war movies which were unrated and shown on tv all the time.

Ditto television cop shows and detective shows where murder is the staple.

I don't know, aside from all of this I guess you're right, practically any killing and boom it's automatically r rated.

I still can't think of any non nude porno though but I'm sure it's just as easy to recall. Care to point them out to me?

[cartman]

The PG-13 rating was first used by "Red Dawn", which is one of the most violent movies ever made, along with being a FOFC crowd favorite.

[Axxon]

The PG-13 rating was first used by "Red Dawn", which is one of the most violent movies ever made, along with being a FOFC crowd favorite.

Yeah, great flick. I forgot that one was PG-13.

I honestly didn't think that the idea that our society is far more open to violence than sex was even in doubt so that last post threw me for a loop.

[cuervo72]

Didn't they off all of Congress in Mars Attacks!? That was PG-13.

[Axxon]

Didn't they off all of Congress in Mars Attacks!? That was PG-13.

That was PG-13?? Man, they should have made it at least NC-17 for the mere suckiness factor alone. :)

[gstelmack]

I still can't think of any non nude porno though but I'm sure it's just as easy to recall. Care to point them out to me?
Pretty much any afternoon Soap Opera will do...

Point taken about the violence, although my feeble young mind thought for sure Jaws was an R...

There have just been lots of R movies over the last few years that I just could not fathom why they were R, and lots of PG/PG-13 movies that I thought crossed the sex line. Now I have to go home and dig up some examples from my DVD collection...

[Axxon]

Pretty much any afternoon Soap Opera will do...

Point taken about the violence, although my feeble young mind thought for sure Jaws was an R...

There have just been lots of R movies over the last few years that I just could not fathom why they were R, and lots of PG/PG-13 movies that I thought crossed the sex line. Now I have to go home and dig up some examples from my DVD collection...

Yeah, Jaws is the real shocker on the list for sure. My grandmother took me to see that one when whatever kids movie she was going to take me too was sold out. I don't think she ever got over it hehe but while I was traumatized, I still loved it. It was the first really scary movie I loved but living in a beach town wasn't exactly easy for a few years after that. :)

[Flame Eater]

It's not about sex. It's about sex...WITH KIDS.

That's sick.

Everybody has been pissed off and said, "I'd like to kill him/her/it/them." But I don't know too many guys who look at a ten year old boy and say, "I'd like to diddle him."

Murder and rage are things most people can come close to understanding. You may never have been mad enough to harm someone, but you've probably at least thought about it.

Diddling kids is too weird for anybody to even try to understand. It's sick, and I can't even think about Jackson without getting a little queasy.

Edit: And despite how pissed you've been in your life, you've probably never killed someone. So how pissed was OJ? I don't think I could ever be that pissed. I think people wanted to try and understand that level of rage.

Nobody wants to understand Jackson.

[Axxon]

It's not about sex. It's about sex...WITH KIDS.

That's sick.

Everybody has been pissed off and said, "I'd like to kill him/her/it/them." But I don't know too many guys who look at a ten year old boy and say, "I'd like to diddle him."

Murder and rage are things most people can come close to understanding. You may never have been mad enough to harm someone, but you've probably at least thought about it.

Diddling kids is too weird for anybody to even try to understand. It's sick, and I can't even think about Jackson without getting a little queasy.

I guess. You're right that adding the WITH KIDS raises it up a notch on the creepy scale and you're right that most of us have thought about killing someone but to me, the fact that Scott's wife was pregnant at the time does the same thing about his murder. It raises it into the that's sick category big time.

All that aside, I'd think that because he is accused of sex with a child people would want to follow the trial more closely to see if he gets the justice he has coming to him. That should be a draw right?

I'm not really following this trial and it truly has less interest to me than either the OJ trial ( which I watched practically religiously ) or the Peterson trial which I followed until the trial.

For me, it's the first factor that they brought up that is the biggie, "It isn't going to be televised" that kills the interest. I like to view courtroom scenes. They interest me. Doesn't matter much what the trial is, I enjoy watching the procedure and the various parties at work.

[duckman]

It's not about sex. It's about sex...WITH KIDS.

That's sick.

Everybody has been pissed off and said, "I'd like to kill him/her/it/them." But I don't know too many guys who look at a ten year old boy and say, "I'd like to diddle him."

Murder and rage are things most people can come close to understanding. You may never have been mad enough to harm someone, but you've probably at least thought about it.

Diddling kids is too weird for anybody to even try to understand. It's sick, and I can't even think about Jackson without getting a little queasy.

Edit: And despite how pissed you've been in your life, you've probably never killed someone. So how pissed was OJ? I don't think I could ever be that pissed. I think people wanted to try and understand that level of rage.

Nobody wants to understand Jackson.
Good post. I agree with everything you said.