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Flasch186
02-17-2005, 06:59 PM
I havnt heard anything but one rumor but I think this might be his saving grace. He is certainly one of those QB's that has ruined teams year after year but I feel like a decent WR corps and Julius might save his career....

what do you think?

Franklinnoble
02-17-2005, 06:59 PM
I think Parcells likes him, and I think he's got a few good years left, so why not?

As a Redskins fan, I hope they sign him to a Mark Brunell-esque contract, and he sucks just as badly.

Eaglesfan27
02-17-2005, 07:09 PM
I think Parcells likes him, and I think he's got a few good years left, so why not?

As a Redskins fan, I hope they sign him to a Mark Brunell-esque contract, and he sucks just as badly.
I agree.

Draft Dodger
02-17-2005, 07:19 PM
I havnt heard anything but one rumor but I think this might be his saving grace. He is certainly one of those QB's that has ruined teams year after year but I feel like a decent WR corps and Julius might save his career....

what do you think?

the most important thing Bledsoe needs is pass protection.
in Buffalo's 9 wins, Bledsoe...just 10 sacks and he had an 89 PR, 15 TD, 5 INT.
in the 7 losses? 27 sacks, 60.3 PR, 5 TD, 11 INT

MizzouRah
02-17-2005, 07:21 PM
Parcells really likes him and I fully expect a signing in Dallas fairly soon... makes perfect sense.


Todd

jeff061
02-17-2005, 07:24 PM
He had his best years under Parcells. But he was a young then, wonder if the same tricks will work.

duckman
02-17-2005, 09:18 PM
Parcells has been known to set his offense around its strengths. He would set up the offense to fit Bledsoe's skills and would probably do quite well in it.

WSUCougar
02-17-2005, 09:44 PM
He is certainly one of those QB's that has ruined teams year after year
What the hell is that supposed to mean? :rolleyes:

ISiddiqui
02-17-2005, 09:59 PM
I think if he's reunited with Parcells he could do very well indeed. Especially if a lot of the offense goes through Julius Jones' hands (making the playaction work).

SunDancer
02-17-2005, 10:19 PM
the most important thing Bledsoe needs is pass protection.
in Buffalo's 9 wins, Bledsoe...just 10 sacks and he had an 89 PR, 15 TD, 5 INT.
in the 7 losses? 27 sacks, 60.3 PR, 5 TD, 11 INT

Yeah...He got drilled alot here in Buffalo. He does have a problem hanging onto the ball, but he never got the time. Everyone expects him to be Michael Vick, but he just isn't.

mhass
02-17-2005, 10:29 PM
Two blue Drew's do rue boo's. Screw new taboo views. You knew who to pursue.

Draft Dodger
02-17-2005, 10:33 PM
Yeah...He got drilled alot here in Buffalo. He does have a problem hanging onto the ball, but he never got the time. Everyone expects him to be Michael Vick, but he just isn't.

and, it's worth noting that the Cowboys O-Line allowed just one less sack than the Bills last year.

Airhog
02-17-2005, 10:38 PM
He was my favorite pats player in the late 90's. But if he signed with dallas I would never admit that I ever liked him, since I despise the Cowboys.

rkmsuf
02-18-2005, 08:48 AM
He'd fair similar to Vinny in that offense.

FrogMan
02-18-2005, 08:54 AM
He was my favorite pats player in the late 90's. But if he signed with dallas I would never admit that I ever liked him, since I despise the Cowboys.
Are you my twin brother???

FM

JeeberD
02-18-2005, 08:57 AM
Everyone expects him to be Michael Vick, but he just isn't.

I don't understand this sentence. Who in the hell has ever expected Bledsoe to be mobile like Vick???

MikeVick7
02-18-2005, 08:59 AM
I think he would continue to be terrible in Dallas. He would have no one to throw to and if you compare his numbers last year to what Vinny did...Drew was beat out in every category except he threw four less Int's.

Dallas needs to look elsewhere.

mhass
02-18-2005, 09:00 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=afp-amfootnflchargers&prov=afp&type=lgns

They'll trade Brees now. That's a good option for Dallas.

rkmsuf
02-18-2005, 09:01 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=afp-amfootnflchargers&prov=afp&type=lgns

They'll trade Brees now. That's a good option for Dallas.

I don't see that happening for some reason. I say Brees stays in SD.

duckman
02-18-2005, 09:08 AM
I don't see that happening for some reason. I say Brees stays in SD.
I agree. In this day and age, no team is willing to give two first rounders for a single player.

Ksyrup
02-18-2005, 09:10 AM
He was my favorite pats player in the late 90's. But if he signed with dallas I would never admit that I ever liked him, since I despise the Cowboys.
I used to hate the Cowboys as much as the next sports fan, but their mediocre past several years have made me apathetic towards them. That's probably worse than hating them, since I don't pay any attention to them anymore.

mhass
02-18-2005, 09:11 AM
I agree. In this day and age, no team is willing to give two first rounders for a single player.
But not many teams pour that much money into two different quarterbacks either. It's begging for the Rivers v. Brees pressure to start immediately.

rkmsuf
02-18-2005, 09:13 AM
But not many teams pour that much money into two different quarterbacks either. It's begging for the Rivers v. Brees pressure to start immediately.


This is the one year cap wise it's a non issue since Rivers isn't counting all that much yet.

mhass
02-18-2005, 09:14 AM
True. Sorry for the threadjack.

JeeberD
02-18-2005, 09:18 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=afp-amfootnflchargers&prov=afp&type=lgns

They'll trade Brees now. That's a good option for Dallas.

I would much rather have Brees in here than Bledsoe, but he would probably cost too much...

Desnudo
02-18-2005, 10:36 AM
the most important thing Bledsoe needs is pass protection.
in Buffalo's 9 wins, Bledsoe...just 10 sacks and he had an 89 PR, 15 TD, 5 INT.
in the 7 losses? 27 sacks, 60.3 PR, 5 TD, 11 INT

Watch Buffalo's sack total drop enormously next season. Bledsoe is not a quick decision maker and never was. Against teams that can apply pressure, he gets killed. That happened even in his prime. Now that he is shell-shocked, and has been for at least 5-6 years, it's even worse.

Maybe Parcells can turn it around and I suppose he's a better option than the riff-raff they had there last season.

bhlloy
02-18-2005, 12:24 PM
I would be absolutely horrified if the Chargers dealt Brees. Keep him on the franchise (he's already said he'd be happy with that through his agent as the $8m is more than he made in his first four years) and see how he plays in the first four games. This will be Rivers' first full training camp, and nobody is sure if he's an NFL player yet, and he's almost certainly not ready. Brees hurts against the cap but the Chargers can fit him in and *should* be a playoff team without any major FA additions. If he regresses, he's gone for nothing after this year and Rivers can take over in his third (second and a half really) season which is ideal.

With all the steps the Chargers took last year, it would be suicide to deal away the main reason for that turnaround.

Having said that, it's a move that only a few franchises in the league are horrible enough to make, and the Chargers are certainly one of them.

rkmsuf
02-18-2005, 12:25 PM
two first rounders is a great deal though, particularly with so much invested in Rivers.

mhass
02-18-2005, 12:32 PM
I have heard in several "mainstream" media outlets that trading Brees in an option. Dallas and Green Bay both being teams mentioned as interested. I didn't just make it up, but like was mentioned, I think the price is steep. The feeling was that the QB's in this year's draft aren't future superstars (not sure I agree) and Brees is proven (not sure I agree with that either). But I didn't just invent the trading Brees theory.

bhlloy
02-18-2005, 12:38 PM
So much invested in Rivers with absolutely no idea what he's going to turn up to be. He hasn't even been through an NFL training camp. It's crazy to gamble with QB's like that... Brees isn't a sure thing but he's a hell of a lot surer than Rivers.

And 2 first rounders being such a good deal is a bit of a media myth to me. With the high rate of busts give me a top 10 QB anyday. Especially if the team you trade Brees to has a good season and you end up with a low pick for the second one.

rkmsuf
02-18-2005, 12:46 PM
So much invested in Rivers with absolutely no idea what he's going to turn up to be. He hasn't even been through an NFL training camp. It's crazy to gamble with QB's like that... Brees isn't a sure thing but he's a hell of a lot surer than Rivers.

And 2 first rounders being such a good deal is a bit of a media myth to me. With the high rate of busts give me a top 10 QB anyday. Especially if the team you trade Brees to has a good season and you end up with a low pick for the second one.

Well then you have to trade Rivers this offseason and sign Bree's longterm.

Otherwise in 2006 River's cap # goes up and you can't sign Brees and lose him for nothing.

Desnudo
02-18-2005, 12:47 PM
If they can add a decent WR, I think Brees would be, at worst, in the second-tier of very good QBs. Looking at who he was passing to last season, his stats are pretty impressive. The only worrisome part is that it was only one season.

Swaggs
02-18-2005, 12:53 PM
I can't imagine the Chargers dealing Brees and going with the unknown, after having had such a great season last year. It is a nice thought for teams in need of a QB, but if was the San Diego GM, I'm not sure two #1s would do it.

bhlloy
02-18-2005, 12:55 PM
Well then you have to trade Rivers this offseason and sign Bree's longterm.

Otherwise in 2006 River's cap # goes up and you can't sign Brees and lose him for nothing.

Then that's what you have to do. The Chargers have taken a step forward sure, but you can't just throw the franchise into the hands of a (in effect) rookie QB. That kills morale, signals to the rest of the league that the franchise is the joke that Eli said it was and at the end of a bad season some of their better players are up for FA.

If Green Bay likes Rivers I think they are willing to give up their mid-late first rounder for him, and I do that deal. There are a ton of other teams in need of a young QB. Once Smith and Rodgers are off the board this year there's nothing anywhere near Rivers' value, and I don't think a mid-late first round pick is too steep.

If the rest of the league are so down on Rivers they won't give up that for him, well he's really not fit to be the starter on the Chargers right now.

Draft Dodger
02-18-2005, 01:09 PM
tough decision for the Chargers. but I don't see how they can trade Rivers - they gave him a $14,000,000 bonus, and whatever's remaining (11M+) is going to hit their cap if they trade him.

all things being equal, I'd say trade Rivers...but I don't see how they can afford that.

rkmsuf
02-18-2005, 01:10 PM
I can't imagine the Chargers dealing Brees and going with the unknown, after having had such a great season last year. It is a nice thought for teams in need of a QB, but if was the San Diego GM, I'm not sure two #1s would do it.

I'd do it in a second as the SD GM since they are the ones sold on Rivers. If he's the man in 2006 anyway then get two #1's for the lame duck QB.

Practically it's not great for the prospects of 2005 for sure.

mckerney
02-18-2005, 01:27 PM
tough decision for the Chargers. but I don't see how they can trade Rivers - they gave him a $14,000,000 bonus, and whatever's remaining (11M+) is going to hit their cap if they trade him.

all things being equal, I'd say trade Rivers...but I don't see how they can afford that.

I think that, depending on when they traded him, the cap hit would be over two years. Not as bad as having $11 million in dead cap in one year, but enough that it would make it difficult to move him.

korme
02-18-2005, 01:59 PM
Looking over Bledsoe's qb ratings year by year, he had really 2 good seasons... was he really just more hype and expectations than results?

Really, what is the difference between him and Jeff Blake?

mhass
02-18-2005, 01:59 PM
Boston vs. Cincinnati