Music Maven 3

[lighthousekeeper]

I've posted before about an online game I developed, but I thought I'd pimp it again since a new version is starting this weekend - Music Maven 3. The game is basically an online Music Industry simulation game. Music Maven 2 was very successful and was around for about 2 years, with thousands of bands playing. It has taken me 18 months to complete MM3 so I'm very excited about finally being able to launch the game. (It took so long not because of the huge enhancements - but mostly because I took several hiatuses along the way.) As always, I strive to make the game as realistic as possible - for example, it contains hundreds of real music clubs around the world in which your band can play.

Music Maven 3 (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/)

For those that enjoyed version 2, here's a partial list of the new features for MM3:


New feautres in version 3

-Completely customizable band lineups with up to 6 musicians (no longer just guitar/bass/drums/vocals)
-Many enhancements to record labels, including record label contracts
-Maven Mall: Can now purchase instruments & stage effects
-More Record Studios added
-Core ratings of record studios now hidden
-Core ratings of practice spaces now hidden
-Interactive map to locate venues by country
-Added genre-level awards
-Musician photos
-Musician bios
-Streamlined method of scheduling Resting activities
-Added ability to upload images for band photo
-Musicians ages are now more varied
-Each song can now appear on a single AND an album
-Track order now saved for each recording
-Made it more difficult for lesser known bands to play large venues
-Label details page now displays bands on tour
-New cities added (can now tour Europe and Australia in addition to N.A.)
-New clubs added
-More ways you can promote your band
-Set list now shows which album and/or single your songs appear on
-Added new rating for band: Stage Presence




The first sim is Sunday night, so I encourage you to sign up now to not miss any sims.

/end commercial

[sterlingice]

I know I had quite a lot of fun playing and anyone who didn't give it a go and likes text based web games check it out.

to lighthousekeeper:
I had one problem that probably caused me to stop playing and was wondering if you had addressed that. After a couple of months of playing, you had maxed out your musician abilities through practicing (the musical ones). However, the other attributes could only be changed in unbalanced fashion by resting (ie the max you could get from one ability would be 3 so that attribute on all your musicians would always be low while another you could raise 7 or 10 points in a day and so it was better to raise those). So, once your band became more "mature" in the game, the easiest way to advance your band was to go audition a new set of members because the points would be redistributed and it's much easier to raise the musical abilities because you practiced every day. So, basically, the best way to get the best band members was to completely replace all of your members and that reduced the "stickiness" of the game for me.

SI

[korme]

i'm joining. i would have preferred the option when making my band to have a guitarest/vocalist as the same guy, however.

[lighthousekeeper]

to lighthousekeeper:
I had one problem that probably caused me to stop playing and was wondering if you had addressed that. After a couple of months of playing, you had maxed out your musician abilities through practicing (the musical ones). However, the other attributes could only be changed in unbalanced fashion by resting (ie the max you could get from one ability would be 3 so that attribute on all your musicians would always be low while another you could raise 7 or 10 points in a day and so it was better to raise those). So, once your band became more "mature" in the game, the easiest way to advance your band was to go audition a new set of members because the points would be redistributed and it's much easier to raise the musical abilities because you practiced every day. So, basically, the best way to get the best band members was to completely replace all of your members and that reduced the "stickiness" of the game for me.

SI

I'm not sure how long ago you stopped playing but at one point in MM2 I added many types of resting activities that allowed the musicians to raise a variety of attributes. But, I will definitely take a look at the balancing of resting activities to improve and addresss unbalance issues to try to make it more balanced (either have less improvement each month, or introduce more factors to reduce certain attributes).

[korme]

The Truth is in (emo).

It'd be cool if we had like a buddies system, like add group to a certain list to keep tabs on people we know.

[lighthousekeeper]

The Truth is in (emo).

It'd be cool if we had like a buddies system, like add group to a certain list to keep tabs on people we know.

In a way there is a buddies system in the form of Record Labels. Groups of friends typically create and join the same record label. (You won't be able to create a record label though until you've played the game for several days because you need at least at 20 rating in Popularity to create a record label.)

[korme]

Ok. See you have Bogarts (Cincy,OH) in the game, with a good rating to boot! Nice.

[sterlingice]

Fascist Eagle, the hard rockers from Houston are back (and because we can, we've got the 80's sax player in the rock mix)

SI

[Swaggs]

The Outsiders are in.

[korme]

Charlie Swager needs to get that plastic surgery (18 for looks, which is a little high for you anyways.)

[Swaggs]

and on top of being ugly, I'm a girl, too. :(

[Barkeep49]

I had forgetten all about this game but am very glad to see it back.

[Marc Vaughan]

I've played before a couple of times and found it a lot of fun :D

[bosshogg23]

I had forgetten all about this game but am very glad to see it back.

Same here. Looking forward to the changes and the games rebirth.

[tucker342]

Kleft, the West Coast Rappers from Iowa City are ready to rip some shit up.:D

[Calis]

The Pasty White Thighs are ready to rock out!

This seems pretty cool, didn't check this out the first time round.

[korme]

Dude you messed up. Your The Pasty White Thights.

LOL

[Calis]

Dude you messed up. Your The Pasty White Thights.

LOL

Acckkk! Damn it all!

Check before you hit submit on these things! ;)

Lets see if I can get it right a second time.

[cthomer5000]

how do you change the band photo? I've got the individual members, but can't figure out how to edit the band pic.

Watery Hands are ready to rock the fucking house.

[lighthousekeeper]

how do you change the band photo? I've got the individual members, but can't figure out how to edit the band pic.

Watery Hands are ready to rock the fucking house.


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[tanglewood]

I'm in. 'The New Age' an Indie Rock outfit (of the Joy Division, Chamelons, post-punk ilk). From Manchester, UK of course. :)

[tanglewood]

Dola

A question. Do you need to buy instruments first before doing anything else? Or are they pretty much meaningless showing off? ;)

[JeffNights]

"Downriver" is back again to dominate the hard rock scene

[lighthousekeeper]

Dola

A question. Do you need to buy instruments first before doing anything else? Or are they pretty much meaningless showing off? ;)



Meaningless showoff

[Swaggs]

Do you think you will ever make a solo/career game like this?

[cthomer5000]

Is there any way to try to tour together with another artist/artists? Or is the only way you can really do that by just trying to tour the same areas at the same time?

[Bearcat729]

The Blind Fish (Indie) are in

[lighthousekeeper]

Do you think you will ever make a solo/career game like this?

I started off making a solo game, but never finished - now the technology is outdated (VB6). link (http://www.sigmamusic.com/sigmastudios/mmpc.htm)

I would need to start from scratch and I've been telling myself that after I get MM3 up and running and stable that I'd go back to that.

[Swaggs]

I started off making a solo game, but never finished - now the technology is outdated (VB6). link (http://www.sigmamusic.com/sigmastudios/mmpc.htm)

I would need to start from scratch and I've been telling myself that after I get MM3 up and running and stable that I'd go back to that.

Good luck. I think it would be a great entry into the genre and you would have at least one paying customer. :)

[cthomer5000]

My girls had better crank out some new tunes this month.

[Coop]

The Clap(Hard Rock) are ready to kick some ass

[Pumpy Tudors]

The Jive Turkeys (Comedy) are in, straight outta NOLA (New Orleans).

[Travis]

Canadian Myth is back and ready to climb the charts.

[korme]

Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /home/httpd/vhosts/music-maven.com/httpdocs/mm3/ChkMMLogin.php on line 19
I cannot connect to the database.

[fantastic flying froggies]

The Vampires of Doom, a goth rock band out of Dresden, Germnay have just been created.

[DanGarion]

Those alternative rockers Short One Crouton, have joined the music industry!

[DeToxRox]

Alabaster Bible Church bitches

[DeToxRox]

Oh and PS

Alabaster Bible Church will be the hardcore band that kills people nightly.

Expect arrests, deaths, chaos, excess and assorted other nonsense.

And this will be a dynasty no doubt

[Easy Mac]

Say hello to Selftitled.

[sabotai]

My band is Somatic (Heavy Metal)

[BucDawg40]

Vaporizer (Stoner Rock)

[ntndeacon]

From Birmingham, AL the punk stylings of The Klein Bottles..

I came REAL CLOSE to putting them in Math Rock..
:)

[TazFTW]

S.T.A.T. (West Coast Rap)

[ageofquarrel]

I made a hardcore band called Anthem from the dump other wise know as west filthadelphia :)

[DeToxRox]

I made a hardcore band called Anthem from the dump other wise know as west filthadelphia :)

[Puts on his Death Before Dishonor/Boston Hardcore hoodie]

Let's rumble.

[ageofquarrel]

[Puts on his Death Before Dishonor/New York City Hardcore hoodie]

Let's rumble.

fixed it for you

[cthomer5000]

any idea what time the sim is?
midnight EST. so about 90 minutes.

[Coop]

any idea what time the sim is?

[cthomer5000]

the website says EST. that's all i know. check the 'stats' button in the lower left hand side when logged in.

[sterlingice]

I could be wrong, but I thought it was midnight CT not ET.

SI

[daedalus]

I really wanted to play and couldn't figure out why I can't see the buttons. Then I remembered and checked the source . . . again, the buttons are flash. Huh? Why? Flash buttons?!?!? I have plug-ins disabled in my browser and haven't updated flash in ages. I had the same problem with the last version.

Oh, well. Guess no MM for me. Good luck to y'all with the game.

[korme]

is a month or week ran every night? just curious. anxious to get my dudes rocking.

[sterlingice]

Back in MM2, there was a month done per night.

SI

[vex]

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I cannot connect to the database.<SCRIPT language=JavaScript><!--window.open = SymRealWinOpen;//--></SCRIPT>

:( I remember this problem very well.

[cthomer5000]

Oh man, we're in deep shit. We made $7 at one show... $7!!!

We're down to 8 dollars, and we only came up with 2 songs out of 21 days of militant practice.

[Raven Hawk]

Sloth got themselves a new drummer and wrote a crappy (7) song called "Wrecking Ball."

[vex]

Flair (Alt. Rock) is up and running!

[ntndeacon]

The Klein Bottles Got 1 new song and lost lots of happiness

[tanglewood]

The New Age did lotsa practicing. Also, they have (bravely in some cases) revealed themselves to the world through the wonder of photography. Check 'em out.

[ageofquarrel]

Heh anthem wrote one song that they barely know. Also I cant seem to find a show for them.

[sabotai]

Somatic did some practice and rest last month, but did not come up with a new song yet. We have a tour this month in the Northeast 4/1 - 4/5 so hopefully that will get us some cash.

[fantastic flying froggies]

Vampires of Doom wrote their first song, called Intro. Only my keyboard player has an instrument, so i suppose it's a keyboard-only instrumental... :confused:

How do you make money in this game? I'm already short on cash!!!

[fantastic flying froggies]

Somatic did some practice and rest last month, but did not come up with a new song yet. We have a tour this month in the Northeast 4/1 - 4/5 so hopefully that will get us some cash.
How can you tour if you don't know any songs?

[sabotai]

How can you tour if you don't know any songs?

I think the explaination is if you don't have a full set list (or an empty one in my case), it's "replaced" with cover songs.

[Coop]

Play cover songs

[MikeVick7]

Ok...I'm in as well with my alt rock band Strutter.

[lighthousekeeper]

How can you tour if you don't know any songs?

If I didn't let bands play shows right out of the gate, then my fear is that people would have too little to do initially and quit playing the game right off the bat.

[fantastic flying froggies]

If I didn't let bands play shows right out of the gate, then my fear is that people would have too little to do initially and quit playing the game right off the bat.
OK, that's fine and makes sense. I just didn't know it, so i've had my band basically practicing the whole month... :)

[sachmo71]

Earworms, baby.

[Bearcat729]

The Blind Fish wrote 1 song, made $16 on a tour and rested for a few days.

Next month we have a couple more shows, a bit more practice and the band is resting by watching Song Writing 101 on PBS.

[ntndeacon]

Well, crap! The Klein Bottle's Bassist is saying we need a new space...we have negative cohesion, but we did make $30 on our first show.

[vex]

Flair wrote their first song, "Crazy", and lost a lot of money doing it;)


So who's going to set up the FOFC record label?

[tucker342]

Kleft practiced, toured and rested

I didn't learn any new songs, but I'm close...

[sterlingice]

Read 'em and weap, kiddos:

Bands With Most Groupies
<table align="center" bgcolor="#666666" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="479"> <tbody><tr class="tabCells"><td width="73"> 8 </td> <td width="173">Fascist Eagle (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=102)</td> <td width="192">Dmitri Alexander</td> <td align="right" width="100"> 38</td></tr></tbody> </table>
SI

[DanGarion]

Short One Crouton has just penned their first song, "I Wish I Could Be In Your Pants (So You Could Feel)".

Hahahaha :)

[Ksyrup]

http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/AW8YD5H3JH28/picserver.jpeg.

[sachmo71]

Is the game going to be reset?

[DanGarion]

Is the game going to be reset?
Um he reset it when it went to version 3, I hope it's not going to be reset anytime soon.

[sachmo71]

Um he reset it when it went to version 3, I hope it's not going to be reset anytime soon.
Um thanks.

Dangers of quickly reading the forum.

[cthomer5000]

Shit. We've already been forced into an unrealistic tour of North America because we need the cash. Nothing like hitting the road with 3 songs.

I think part-time jobs should be an option for the band spends their time.

[Doug5984]

Is the site down for anyone else right now, or is it just me?

[DanGarion]

Is the site down for anyone else right now, or is it just me?
Looks like it's down right now.

[sterlingice]

So who's going to set up the FOFC record label? I've created FOFC: The Label. I made it "all genres" since we have a wide range. To join, just send me a Maven Mail with your FOFC name and I'll add you to the label. I'll try to check a couple of times tomorrow (today, whatever) but I'll be switching over to my new computer today so I might be a little slow today.

Anyone have an idea for the label photo?

SI

[sterlingice]

Well, I was messing around with labels and disbanded "FOFC: The Label". When I tried to recreate it, it claimed to be successful but it didn't reappear (so likely the delete process doesn't quite work).

So now, the new label is called "FOFC Live!". Same great label, new, better taste. I even contributed a crisp, clean $1 bill to the label fund :D

SI

[sachmo71]

Applied.

[MikeVick7]

Applied here as well. sterlingice you should have an maven mail from me.

[Bearcat729]

The Blind Fish applied

[Tigercat]

PTSH(you dont wanna know what it stands for) applied

[Doug5984]

applied

[JeeberD]

Death to bbor, a heavy metal band from El Paso has just joined up...

[Calis]

I think I applied...

Not very obvious if it did.

[lighthousekeeper]

I think I applied...

Not very obvious if it did.

I should probably make it more obvious when you apply to a label - right now you can see that info on the Band News page.

[Calis]

Gotcha, I see it now.

Wasn't sure if it took, but didn't want to click it 100 times either. I am signed up though, so all is well.

Yeah, a screen saying your application has been sent wouldn't hurt.

[Raven Hawk]

Sloth has applied for the FOFC Live Label after selling out our demo tape this month! :D

[sterlingice]

I'll try to get you guys added but I want to read up about how you give a contract to people (you can't just click "accept" or something, you have to offer a contract to someone). But every time I try to search the forum, it dies "page can't display" but I'll keep trying.

For now, I'll just offer the max 5 album/5 single contract to all of you with a whopping $0 help from the label ;)

EDIT: I've offered 5/5/0 to about half but I was thinking that there might be a down side to being tied down so long so the rest of you will be 1/2/0 since that will keep you on the label a long time (gotta get 8 songs) and it'll give us more time to check out labels. If you got a 5/5/0 and are worried about that, just reject the contract and try to join again.

SI

[sterlingice]

I think I'll make a little chart here in a couple of days (once people accept) with all the members of the label.

The following bands sent a message but didn't try to join the label so you have to do that before I can add you:
Jive Turkeys (Pumpy)

SI

[ntndeacon]

The Klein Bottles have applied.

[lighthousekeeper]

Also keep in mind that there is a limit of 20 bands per label.

[MikeVick7]

Also keep in mind that there is a limit of 20 bands per label.
Oooh...glad I got signed on. :)

[sterlingice]

Less than half that applied so no emminent danger of too many bands.

SI

[ShovelMonkey]

Zero To Sixty, the most popular of the Stoner bands just applied to FOFC Live!

Their very first release, a demo titled after the band, is scheduled for release this month.

[duckman]

Undying Affliction has applied.

[sterlingice]

Any of you guys go by "Linkin Park" or "The Cells"? I've seen requests by them to join but have no idea who they are and I'm trying to limit it to FOFC since we have a limit.

SI

[vex]

Flair has applied.

[sabotai]

Somatic has applied

[Ben E Lou]

Too Bad Bruthaz don't need no m____f___ label, beeyatches!

[sterlingice]

Everyone who has applied (except Linkin Park and The Cells, who I don't know who they are) has been offered a contract at this point. There are 8 of us already on the label.

SI

[JHandley]

I'm The Cells..sorry I should have posted that here.

[sterlingice]

I'm The Cells..sorry I should have posted that here.
Cool- you've been offered a contract. :)

SI

[vex]

Are the Indie Rock groups really Indie now that they're signed?;)

[vex]

Less than half that applied so no emminent danger of too many bands.

SI

Well, if we end up having room, I have 4 more bands:)

[sterlingice]

I dunno but Fascist Eagle has no designs on being indie. We're all for sex, drugs, and rock and roll in giant stadiums full of screaming fans and sleeping on piles of money with many beautiful women.

SI

[illinifan999]

I enjoyed reading the contract. Can you change the parts in the contract like how much money the label will put towards recording and how much royalties?

[illinifan999]

dola

i guess i should say, are those editable where you choose those certain aspects while creating it?

[sterlingice]

Well, if we end up having room, I have 4 more bands:)
Is that allowed? I know I had a second band in MM2. That said, I think we should probably hold off on extra bands for a while and give people a chance to get their first bands in. Maybe we can look at this after a week or so.

SI

[vex]

Yeah, I was wondering that after the label gets 20% of the profit, will we get backed pretty nicely next time we sign? Because I would think the label will have a ton of mony by then.

[vex]

Is that allowed? I know I had a second band in MM2. That said, I think we should probably hold off on extra bands for a while and give people a chance to get their first bands in. Maybe we can look at this after a week or so.

SI

I hope so, I read in the MM forum where a guy said he had 4-5 bands and I never saw a posting that I couldn't, guess I'll find out...

[JHandley]

Yeah, I was wondering that after the label gets 20% of the profit, will we get backed pretty nicely next time we sign? Because I would think the label will have a ton of mony by then.

We better because The Man is giving us a pretty good screw job right now. ;)

[vex]

Is that allowed? I know I had a second band in MM2. That said, I think we should probably hold off on extra bands for a while and give people a chance to get their first bands in. Maybe we can look at this after a week or so.

SI
Yeah, it would be wise to do that. Maybe we could create another label that pertains to a specific genre.

[vex]

We better because The Man is giving us a pretty good screw job right now. ;)
Yeah, we got taken to the cleaners in that contract;)

[sterlingice]

dola

i guess i should say, are those editable where you choose those certain aspects while creating it?
You get to choose three things:
Number of singles
Number of albums
Cash from label to help promote

Right now, we've got a bunch of bands starting out so I think it would be foolish for us to pool our money and then redistribute it in some way. So, I figure we give $0 from the label. Maybe at some point that will change, but we don't have the resources to start doing that for quite a while.

SI

[sterlingice]

Wait? The label gets that kind of cash from stuff? Then I'll try to just churn that back out to the people in the label. Any suggestion on how to do that?

Right now the label has all of $21 that I put in it from my slush fund. :) But I'm not going to be doing much until I can get that tour bus from hell

SI

[Aylmar]

Pimp Daddies will apply.

[vex]

Wait? The label gets that kind of cash from stuff? Then I'll try to just churn that back out to the people in the label. Any suggestion on how to do that?

Right now the label has all of $21 that I put in it from my slush fund. :) But I'm not going to be doing much until I can get that tour bus from hell

SI

I think we'll have to wait and renegotiate. At least I assume that the label gets 20% since the contract said we keep 80% of the profits.

[ShovelMonkey]

IN my bands news it shows that I was offered a contract, but how do I view the terms or accept it? That is seeming to elude me at the moment...

[vex]

IN my bands news it shows that I was offered a contract, but how do I view the terms or accept it? That is seeming to elude me at the moment...
Below you news, there should be a "Label News", click on that there.

[vex]

Lighthousekeeper, anyway to add a column in the record label section that shows how many bands are under that label? Thanks.

[ShovelMonkey]

...Below you news, there should be a "Label News", click on that there...

Nothing in there. In band news it says: "Contract offer from FOFC Live!"

Nothing in the label news other than, "You are currently unsigned."

[vex]

Dola

Also, what is the rating(change) column in the record label section? Also, when I click on a post in the forum, how come I always get a page not found error? Also, could you possibly tell the mods on your board to lighten up just a tad?

[vex]

Nothing in there. In band news it says: "Contract offer from FOFC Live!"

Nothing in the label news other than, "You are currently unsigned."
Apply again, I guess:confused:

[ShovelMonkey]

Apply again, I guess:confused:


Hmmm...just did. Hopefully it goes through this time!

[lighthousekeeper]

Dola

Also, what is the rating(change) column in the record label section? Also, when I click on a post in the forum, how come I always get a page not found error? Also, could you possibly tell the mods on your board to lighten up just a tad?


Forum is down (again). Need to get a new one.

[Raven Hawk]

I've got two offers, however, no matter which one I want to review, I can only see the first one. Unfortunately, I can't see the FOFC offer to accept it. Anybody know any tricks to this?

[ShovelMonkey]

Woohoo! I'm now a confirmed member of FOFC Live!

[sterlingice]

Anyone know who are the Pink Zappas?

Any luck RH?

SI

[vex]

I've got two offers, however, no matter which one I want to review, I can only see the first one. Unfortunately, I can't see the FOFC offer to accept it. Anybody know any tricks to this?
If you decline the first one, will it go away?

[mckerney]

Emo group Incapable has applied to the FOFC Live! label.

[SirFozzie]

Electronica group Rising Hayabusa has signed up ;) and applied to FOFC Live!

[Raven Hawk]

If you decline the first one, will it go away?
Ummm, I didn't decline the first one because they gave me money. :D I've got a 1-single deal with Apathy Alliance where they've fronted me $300 to make a single. Once I take their money, then I'll go for FOFC. By the way, FOFC has 17 members. I think the next largest label has 5.

[Qwikshot]

Alt Country band Dust Country

[sachmo71]

I guess I'm not going to be on the FOFC label. :(

[JeeberD]

Woohoo, we wrote a song!

Crap, after living expenses we're in debt now. Guess it's time to tour and see if we can make a little cash...

[sabotai]

I guess I'm not going to be on the FOFC label. :(

I think once FOFC Lives fills up, someone else will make another FOFC label.

[Calis]

Ack, making a single is pretty frigging expensive eh?

Dang, guess I'll be touring and practicing a few more months!

Another question- I have a flautist in my band, who rocks btw..but in the band detail screen he shows up as ???? by his name where everyone else has Bass/Drums/Vocals etc...

I should've had 5 flautists in my band, we'd be unstoppable then.

[Swaggs]

Elitist Records is open for business. :)

[gkb]

Just started last night, hard rock band called SlackAttack....we suck. :)

[fantastic flying froggies]

The Vampires of Doom have applied to the FOFC Live! label.

[Castlerock]

Aujourd’hui has applied to FOFC Live

[sterlingice]

Well, if there's someone popular enough, I think it might be time for them to start a new label. FOFC has 17 members and I've offered 3 contracts to the three first bands to apply (Canadian Myth, Jive Turkeys, Incapable). If they don't accept, I'll keep going down the list of people who applied in chronological order but I guess we're hugely popular and have run out of room (Murders in Mega City and Rising Hayabusa top the waiting list).

Hm... I wonder if FOFC Live! and whatever the other label is will have to compete for bands. Probably should keep it friendly, tho. The other thing is anyone can go between labels so maybe we can just share bands depending on who has openings and who wants in.

SI

[TazFTW]

I believe Swaggs started Elitist Records as a new label.

[vex]

I have Sparrow Records, but it's all of my bands and some other guy:)

[Swaggs]

Elitist Records is taking applications. We are fledgling, but going places. Get in on the ground floor and we will all make it to the top together. :)

[cthomer5000]

Watery Hands (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=150) are proud to announce the formation of Matron Records. Both Matron Records and Watery Hands are proud to annouce their charter release, the single "Womanifesto / Unscented," due next month.

Watery Hands will be touring North America throughout the following months to support this limited release (500 singles will be pressed).

Matron Records is also actively seeking bands to join the roster. We are committed to the artist and will absolutely fund any band we feel has both potential and a common vision. If you are a female oriented group in the indie/punk/electronic/rock community, contact us with any interest.

[TazFTW]

lighthousekeeper,

I got a message from "your bass player" complaining about my practice area (I've chosen my garage). The problem is I don't have a bass player since I'm a West Coast Rap group. Is this a bug, in that I should not be getting a message from a guy I don't have in my group or a bug which in one of my guys is complaining and the game is incorrectly calling him the bass player?

[lighthousekeeper]

lighthousekeeper,

I got a message from "your bass player" complaining about my practice area (I've chosen my garage). The problem is I don't have a bass player since I'm a West Coast Rap group. Is this a bug, in that I should not be getting a message from a guy I don't have in my group or a bug which in one of my guys is complaining and the game is incorrectly calling him the bass player?


http://www.cheeretc.com/mascots/mascots%20images/fish_flounder_fc25.jpg

You're not thinking of the right bass playa.

[cthomer5000]

quick question, roughly what time have the stages actually been run? Midnight? 1 AM?

[lighthousekeeper]

quick question, roughly what time have the stages actually been run? Midnight? 1 AM?
a little after 1am

[sterlingice]

a little after 1am
It's about midnight for those of us in flyover country, the best of the time zones ;)

SI

[cthomer5000]

Watery Hands (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=150) are proud to announce the formation of Matron Records. Both Matron Records and Watery Hands are proud to annouce their charter release, the single "Womanifesto / Unscented," due next month.

Watery Hands will be touring North America throughout the following months to support this limited release (500 singles will be pressed).

Matron Records is also actively seeking bands to join the roster. We are committed to the artist and will absolutely fund any band we feel has both potential and a common vision. If you are a female oriented group in the indie/punk/electronic/rock community, contact us with any interest.Wow. Some big news for us... We sold out the entire pressing of the single in it's first month of release, hitting #2 in the country.

Matron Records is now the #1 rated label in the game.

[fantastic flying froggies]

Watery Hands (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=150) are proud to announce the formation of Matron Records. Both Matron Records and Watery Hands are proud to annouce their charter release, the single "Womanifesto / Unscented," due next month.

Watery Hands will be touring North America throughout the following months to support this limited release (500 singles will be pressed).

Matron Records is also actively seeking bands to join the roster. We are committed to the artist and will absolutely fund any band we feel has both potential and a common vision. If you are a female oriented group in the indie/punk/electronic/rock community, contact us with any interest.
Guten Tag! I'm the manager of an east german Goth Metal Band, the Vampires of Doom and may be interested in joining your label. Made up of 6 members, we have two females, Stefanie on the drums (she is one PanzerFrau) and Barbara singing lead with the opera voice (think Evanescence), she is also very hot. Bist du interested?

[vex]

Sparrow Records is on the rise:)

[ShovelMonkey]

I'm pleased too announce that Zero To Sixty is atop the singles charts for the second month in a row. Following two weeks of solid sell outs of all the copies produced they will be pressing another two thousand copies due to popular demand. This will be the final production of the number one single "Zero To Sixty."


Edit -- I scheduled the single to be released before I was offered a position at FOFC Live!, though both occured the same game month. So sadly our sales haven't registered with the label and are doing nothing to boost FOFC Live!'s reputation and position.

[sterlingice]

FOFC Live has a new logo:

http://www.t-gallery.com/animals/fishes/fimages/trout.gif
If anyone has a better idea, I'm all for it, but this seeme pretty good to start :)

There are offers out to 2 bands who applied today and who have names that I recognize from FOFC. Whoever accepts first gets the last spot in FOFC Live.

SI

[sterlingice]

I'm pleased too announce that Zero To Sixty is atop the singles charts for the second month in a row. Following two weeks of solid sell outs of all the copies produced they will be pressing another two thousand copies due to popular demand. This will be the final production of the number one single "Zero To Sixty."


Edit -- I scheduled the single to be released before I was offered a position at FOFC Live!, though both occured the same game month. So sadly our sales haven't registered with the label and are doing nothing to boost FOFC Live!'s reputation and position.
That's ok, tho. People need all the money they can get early on so that's no tragedy. Congrats on the release :D

I really wish there was a way to have a "social" label where we don't take any % or at least it's adjustable so that we take a minimal amount like 1%.

SI

[cthomer5000]

Guten Tag! I'm the manager of an east german Goth Metal Band, the Vampires of Doom and may be interested in joining your label. Made up of 6 members, we have two females, Stefanie on the drums (she is one PanzerFrau) and Barbara singing lead with the opera voice (think Evanescence), she is also very hot. Bist du interested?
We've made you an offer. http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[cthomer5000]

Some more great news. Watery Hands have again sold out the 2nd pressing of their first single, moving 1,000 units this month and retaining their #2 chart ranking.

Matron Records has also made two contract offers (we'll keep them undisclosed unless accepted).

check out this awesome angry email from a band we rejected:

THATS FINE I DON'T WANNA JOIN YOUR DAMN LABEL ANYWAY WHO NEEDS YOU I B ET NO ONE WILL JOIN IT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN I BET YOU COULDN'T EVEN AFFORD US!!!!

[Barkeep49]

Am I too late to get in on FOFC Live!? I have an Alternative Rock group called the Grey Tires who will be something someday (I hope).

[Qwikshot]

Yeah Dust Country applied for FOFC Live, but I guess I was rejected.

[tanglewood]

My boy band Element (12th most popular band, yeah!) started up Elemental Records a completley mainstream pop label. I will consider any FOFC applications, but be aware that you are selling your musical soul to the corporate devil and losing any credibility in the process. :)

[tanglewood]

Dola

Lighthousekeeper, how many days should a band stay in the studio to record an album? A week, a whole month? What is the minimal time you could spend and still get a decent result?

[McSweeny]

yeah, is there any manual or online help or anything? I feel like i'm flying blind. Or is that kind of the point?

[vex]

It would be nice if there was an FAQ.

[sterlingice]

Yeah Dust Country applied for FOFC Live, but I guess I was rejected.
I don't think I've flat out rejected any bands but since I'm trying to limit it to FOFC, I'll only give out offers to bands that I've seen people post here about or someone has sent me a Maven Mail of who they are.

That said, we still have 19 bands and there are now offers out to everyone who I know is a FOFC band (The Truth, Jive Turkeys, Insane Dripping, Rising Hayabusa).

Also, The Clap, Twilight, and Gorettos have all applied but I don't know who they are so they have not been offered a contract so if it's anyone here, I'll extend one if the spot doesn't get filled.

I'll be up in KC most of the day so I probably won't be checking back until around the daily update tonight.

SI

[sterlingice]

Fascist Eagle will be playing in some of the really big venues this month and hopefully will have that bus tonight :D

SI

[Barkeep49]

Gorettos is me so it is indeed a FOFC person :).

[vex]

Short One Crouton has just penned their first song, "I Wish I Could Be In Your Pants (So You Could Feel)".

Hahahaha :)
You have a contract offer, sir:)

[vex]

Alabaster Bible Church bitches

I didn't realize that was you when I offered;)

[vex]

I don't think I've flat out rejected any bands but since I'm trying to limit it to FOFC, I'll only give out offers to bands that I've seen people post here about or someone has sent me a Maven Mail of who they are.

That said, we still have 19 bands and there are now offers out to everyone who I know is a FOFC band (The Truth, Jive Turkeys, Insane Dripping, Rising Hayabusa).

Also, The Clap, Twilight, and Gorettos have all applied but I don't know who they are so they have not been offered a contract so if it's anyone here, I'll extend one if the spot doesn't get filled.

I'll be up in KC most of the day so I probably won't be checking back until around the daily update tonight.

SI
Who is Insane Dripping?

[cthomer5000]

Who is Insane Dripping?
I'd also like to know.

[Coop]

i'm the clap

[sterlingice]

Who is Insane Dripping?
My bad. I could have sworn I saw them post in this thread somewhere. Sorry, it's hard to keep track of 20 bands when I don't have my computer up and running (my computer is currently on my living room floor getting put together and I'm on Erica's). But as soon as I can, I'm putting together an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of everyone (and things like how much money they've given the label so I know how much to give back next time).

Sir Fozzie and Rising Hayabusa have accepted the 20th and final spot. I hope to have an entire spreadsheet and roster of FOFC Live! by Tuesday night so everyone knows who everone else is.

SI

[korme]

looks like i joined in time too, correct? -the truth

[sterlingice]

looks like i joined in time too, correct? -the truth
Yeah, you're in there. As are:

<table border="0" height="10" width="98%"> <tbody><tr><th class="WhiteTableHead" bgcolor="#000000" width="160">Band</th> <th class="WhiteTableHead" bgcolor="#000000" width="80">Genre</th> <th class="WhiteTableHead" bgcolor="#000000" width="120">Manager</th> <th class="WhiteTableHead" bgcolor="#000000">Contract (Remaining)</th> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Canadian Myth (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=199) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Hard Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Travis Elkin (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=199)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Carolina Prodigy (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=396) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Soft Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Trevor Glode (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=396)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Death to bbor (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=460) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Heavy Metal </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Jeremy Eckberg (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=460)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 5 (5 remaining)
Singles: 5 (5 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Double D & The Usuals (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=222) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Contemporary Country </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Doug Daniel (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=222)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Fascist Eagle (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=102) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Hard Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Dmitri Alexander (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=102)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8">
</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Flair (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=332) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Alternative Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Will Brown (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=332)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Incapable (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=137) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Emo </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Daniel McCarney (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=137)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Pimp Daddies (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=189) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Hard Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Johnny Stonecutter (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=189)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> PTSH (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=138) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Indie Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Kevin Mahe (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=138)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 5 (5 remaining)
Singles: 5 (5 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Purge of Logic (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=100) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Alternative Metal </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Daniel Ertmann (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=100)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Rising Hayabusa (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=508) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Electronica </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> David Yellope (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=508)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> S.T.A.T. (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=196) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> West Coast Rap </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Dallas Ng (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=196)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 5 (5 remaining)
Singles: 5 (5 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Somatic (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=279) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Heavy Metal </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Jason Wood (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=279)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Strutter (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=343) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Alternative Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Neil Wipf (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=343)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> The Blind Fish (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=80) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Indie Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Paul McKinney (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=80)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> The Cells (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=204) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Ska </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Jeff Handley (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=204)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> The Klein Bottles (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=280) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Punk </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Randy Harrison (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=280)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> The Pasty White Thighs (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=160) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Indie Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Gertbeef Roe (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=160)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> The Truth (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=88) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Emo </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Shane Kormelink (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=88)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Undying Affliction (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=281) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Heavy Metal </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Kevin Heath (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=281)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (2 remaining) </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="144"> Zero To Sixty (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=181) </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="78"> Stoner Rock </td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" align="center" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8" width="107"> Charles Welshans (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=181)</td> <td class="photcaption-onlightish" bgcolor="#eeeeee" height="8"> Albums: 1 (1 remaining)
Singles: 2 (1 remaining) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

[Barkeep49]

With the lack of documentation I would love to figure out what all of the different kinds of rest do. Here's what I've gleaned:

General Rest -- Health and happiness
Catch up on sleep -- Health
Play music maven -- Happiness
PBS -- Songwriting
Weights -- Looks

I'm also guessing about the following but don't know for sure:
Read a book -- Intellegence
Fliers -- popularity

Anyone know any others?

[illinifan999]

I got this message after being in debt and trying to practice in my own garage:

Finances
2005-10-01
Your band did not have enough money to pay for all the time they wanted to practice. Until your band scrapes together more money, they will not be allowed to practice here.

Close Window (javascript:window.close();)

[Airhog]

Stoney Blue and the Good Fellas

Playing that Blues Rock, coming straight out of Lousiana.

[sachmo71]

Freedom Records now exists. If you want to publish an album, join. No big whoop.

[sterlingice]

With the lack of documentation I would love to figure out what all of the different kinds of rest do. Here's what I've gleaned:

General Rest -- Health and happiness
Catch up on sleep -- Health
Play music maven -- Happiness
PBS -- Songwriting
Weights -- Looks

I'm also guessing about the following but don't know for sure:
Read a book -- Intellegence
Fliers -- popularity

Anyone know any others?
I started documenting these and then I shut down my old computer and backed everything up. I'll look up that file once I've got it back up.

SI

[vex]

It'd be nice if the game would stop updating...

[TazFTW]

Still updating. Looks like the game needs a kick in the arse.

[JeeberD]

Woohoo, we're finally out of the red (for now)! :D

[wade moore]

I have NO idea what I'm doing, but I'm the O'Rockers...

I screwed up and accidently have 3 guitars instead of 2 guitars and a drummer... but i figured what the hell, let's give it a shot anyways...

[Raven Hawk]

Still updating. Looks like the game needs a kick in the arse.
I'm having a problem with this, too. Anybody know if there is a confirmed problem with the game?

[sterlingice]

I'm having a problem with this, too. Anybody know if there is a confirmed problem with the game? Looking at the Maven board, this happen sometimes and should be fixed when the game updates tonight.

Fascist Eagle raked in some really good dough this month. Got about $150K on tour so now it's time to hit some hardcore practicing so we can release some stuff.

SI

[Easy Mac]

so if the game tells me it is still updating, do I lose out on a month?

[ShovelMonkey]

This is enough to piss off the pope...

[bosshogg23]

The game is still "updating". Looks like it froze halfway through the month. Im sure tonight will finish last nights update.

[sterlingice]

This is enough to piss off the pope...
I think he's busy right now.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showpost.php?p=715663&postcount=168

SI

[DeToxRox]

Ha, just saw Vexs most.

Oh believe me, my band will dominate for ever.

[bbor]

My band is called N.A.R.C....i'll join the fed as soon as updating stops.

[sterlingice]

Looks like the game is back and updated :)

SI

[Suicane75]

I logged in, and my band is gone. :(

[JHandley]

SI-

Did you find out where the 20% you're skimming off us goes? ;)

[sterlingice]

SI-

Did you find out where the 20% you're skimming off us goes? ;)
Actually, no clue. According to the "Manage Label" menu:

Free to spend: $6

And that's what's left of the $21 I put in there originally.

SI

[sterlingice]

Actually, it looks like it goes back to my band, near as I can tell. What I wouldn't give for a bit better FAQ and rules. Anyone know how much single and album sales bring in so that I know how much to give back when re-upp'ing bands?

SI

[vex]

My labels money system seems to be working as I now have about $500 in the label account after a someone sold a single.

[Calis]

How do I do re-presses of a single?

Had no idea how it'd go so I only put out 100 copies of my single, trying to figure out how to mass produce the suckers now.

Happy though, finally started raking in some cash, made about 6.5k this last month.

EDIT: Cancel that, found it..don't know how I missed it the first look through.

[JHandley]

Actually, it looks like it goes back to my band, near as I can tell. What I wouldn't give for a bit better FAQ and rules. Anyone know how much single and album sales bring in so that I know how much to give back when re-upp'ing bands?

SI


Looking at the earnings of my single, it appears that each single brings in $2, but that the label doesn't get any money until the band's cost is covered.

Last month I sold out my intial pressing of 3000 copies, I have 4 fields for earnings:
Label Cost - $0
Band Cost - $6100
Label Gross - $0
Band Gross - $6000

So this month, the label should start seeing some income as mine and the other singles start to cover the band cost.

[Swaggs]

How do you repress singles or albums?

How do you resign bands after their contracts are expired?

[vex]

How do you repress singles or albums?

How do you resign bands after their contracts are expired?

Go to "Band Details"
Go down to your "Band Discography"
Then click on your single, and you'll be able to order on the next screen.

As for the second question, I don't have a clue.

[ShovelMonkey]

How do you resign bands after their contracts are expired?

I'm thinking your stuck with that label until you apply to another. Which kinda sucks because then you can't do independent releases.

[vex]

Looks as I'll(Flair) be bringing in $2,190 for FOFC Live! next week if my 8000 additional copies sellout this month.

[vex]

I'm thinking your stuck with that label until you apply to another. Which kinda sucks because then you can't do independent releases.
If it lets you, you could create your own label and then transfer whatever funds back to your band.

[sterlingice]

So, whenever you guys reup with FOFC Live! just tell me what you guys have in your "Label Gross" columns. I'll double check the math (since I can't see who sends the cash to the label) and send it in your new contract.

SI

[JHandley]

SI-

Don't you also have an option when you offer a contract that states how much money you'll spend on promotion? Maybe instead of just funnelling it all back to us, we can pool our funds and have the label spend on promotion? Just a thought.

[vex]

Here is all the owner of the label sees when he offers a contract:


</FORM><FORM name=form1 action=create_label_contract4.php method=post><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=479 align=center bgColor=#666666 border=0><TBODY><TR class=tabHead><TH colSpan=2>Offer Recording Contract
Step 3 of 3: Set Contract Details</TH></TR><TR><TD class=tabSubHead width=171>Band Name:</TD><TD class=tabCells width=297>The Cornelius Machine (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=727) </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tabSubHead width=171># of Singles Allowed:</TD><TD class=tabCells width=297><SELECT style="VISIBILITY: visible" size=1 name=NumSingle> <OPTION class=opt value=0 selected>0</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=1>1</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=2>2</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=3>3</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=4>4</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=5>5</OPTION></SELECT> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tabSubHead width=171># of Albums Allowed:</TD><TD class=tabCells width=297><SELECT style="VISIBILITY: visible" size=1 name=NumAlbum> <OPTION class=opt value=0 selected>0</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=1>1</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=2>2</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=3>3</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=4>4</OPTION> <OPTION class=opt value=5>5</OPTION></SELECT> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tabSubHead width=171>Budget Provided by Label for Each Recording ($):</TD><TD class=tabCells width=297><INPUT maxLength=20 name=iBudget> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tabCells colSpan=2> <INPUT type=submit value="Submit Offer" name=Submit>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FORM><FORM name=vbform onsubmit="return checkQR(this);" action=newreply.php method=post>

[sterlingice]

SI-

Don't you also have an option when you offer a contract that states how much money you'll spend on promotion? Maybe instead of just funnelling it all back to us, we can pool our funds and have the label spend on promotion? Just a thought.
Yeah, unfortunately, that isn't an option. :(

SI

[JHandley]

Well, it would have been a cool idea.

If all you can do with the money is help out with the production costs, the whole contract is just plain silly. The band has to pay back all production costs to the label before it sees any profits, of which the band will only keep 80%. So all the label is really doing is fronting the band the money.

From what I can tell, the purpose of labels is to see which label can make the most money and to help fledgling bands get a single out. However, it has been shown that with a little touring, an independant release isn't hard to acheive. If that's the case, I'm not going to keep track of how much I've paid to the label, you can just keep it and use it either for prestige or for new bands.

I think I just don't get this part of the game.

[McSweeny]

yeah i don't see myself bothering with any labels. DIY all the way for my band

[cthomer5000]

Well, it would have been a cool idea.

If all you can do with the money is help out with the production costs, the whole contract is just plain silly. The band has to pay back all production costs to the label before it sees any profits, of which the band will only keep 80%. So all the label is really doing is fronting the band the money.

From what I can tell, the purpose of labels is to see which label can make the most money and to help fledgling bands get a single out. However, it has been shown that with a little touring, an independant release isn't hard to acheive. If that's the case, I'm not going to keep track of how much I've paid to the label, you can just keep it and use it either for prestige or for new bands.

I think I just don't get this part of the game.
The game is fun, but it has a long way to go before it comes close to approximating reality.

[cthomer5000]

I didn't mean to come off as whining. You're right the game is fun, I just don't think I understand the reason for labels. Or rather, I don't think this part of the game has been fleshed out yet.

Mainly my post was to see if I was the only one who saw things that way.
Not at all. And I would say one problem is that a lot of the regular players don't seem too interested in seeing the game become more realistic (based upon what i've read and written in the forums over htere).

[JHandley]

The game is fun, but it has a long way to go before it comes close to approximating reality.

I didn't mean to come off as whining. You're right the game is fun, I just don't think I understand the reason for labels. Or rather, I don't think this part of the game has been fleshed out yet.

Mainly my post was to see if I was the only one who saw things that way.

[Airhog]

All I know it, MM3 needs someone to moderate those forums. My god they are 10x worse then FOFC, and thats really saying something!

[JeeberD]

All I know it, MM3 needs someone to moderate those forums. My god they are 10x worse then FOFC, and thats really saying something!


Boobies?

[vex]

All I know it, MM3 needs someone to moderate those forums. My god they are 10x worse then FOFC, and thats really saying something!
They bring a whole new level to the elitists category attitude.

[vex]

Well, looks like no complete update...again.

[DanGarion]

Well, looks like no complete update...again.
Calm down it's still updating...

"The game is currently being updated. No changes can be made at this time."

[vex]

Calm down it's still updating...

"The game is currently being updated. No changes can be made at this time."If it didn't do it by 12:20 CST, it's not going to. It's stuck, again.

[sterlingice]

Well, looks like no complete update...again.
Nah- it's updated. It just takes a little time :)

SI

[TazFTW]

Mine's fully updated.

[vex]

I was wrong, and I'm very happy:)

[vex]

Two of my bands are rocking the singles charts at #3 and 4! Time to order more copies!

[vex]

So SI, did FOFC get some money from my release now?

[vex]

FOFC Live! is rolling out the releases:



<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="90%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top bgColor=#ffffff>
<TABLE height=10 width="98%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TH class=WhiteTableHead bgColor=#ff0000 colSpan=5>Best Selling Albums Last Month</TH></TR><TR><TH class=WhiteTableHead width=160 bgColor=#000000>Band</TH><TH class=WhiteTableHead width=80 bgColor=#000000>Type</TH><TH class=WhiteTableHead width=120 bgColor=#000000>Release Name </TH><TH class=WhiteTableHead width=132 bgColor=#000000>Release Date </TH><TH class=WhiteTableHead width=125 bgColor=#000000>Sales Last Month</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=160 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Rising Hayabusa (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=508) </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=80 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=120 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Shooting Star Press </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=132 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2005-11-01 </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=125 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>125</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=160 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Double D & The Usuals (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=222) </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=80 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=120 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>The Untitled Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=132 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2005-11-01 </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=125 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>1,000</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=160 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Strutter (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=343) </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=80 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=120 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Futbol </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=132 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2005-11-01 </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=125 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>350</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=160 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>PTSH (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=138) </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=80 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=120 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Boil Time Demo </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=132 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2005-10-01 </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=125 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>4,700</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=160 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Flair (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=332) </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=80 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=120 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Never </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=132 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2005-10-01 </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=125 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>9,000</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=160 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>The Cells (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=204) </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=80 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=120 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>The Cells </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=132 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2005-10-01 </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=125 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>9,768</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=160 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>The Klein Bottles (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=280) </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=80 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=120 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Twisting, Never Ending </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=132 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2005-10-01 </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=125 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2,000</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=160 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>The Pasty White Thighs (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=160) </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=80 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Single </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish align=middle width=120 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>Porkchops & Applesauce </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=132 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2005-10-01 </TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=125 bgColor=#eeeeee height=8>2,600</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><!-- BEGIN Last Column --><TD vAlign=top bgColor=#666666><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=275 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center align=left>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="95%" align=center border=1><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=92>Label Genre:</TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=158>All genres </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=92>Owner:</TD><TD class=photcaption-onlightish width=158>Dmitri Alexander </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=photcaption-onlightish colSpan=2>Description: The main label for any band from Front Office Football Central. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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CURRENTLY ON TOUR
<TABLE width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=smallestwhite>Fascist Eagle (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=102)(US Central) (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=102)</TD></TR><TR><TD class=smallestwhite>Strutter (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/bandcard.php?BandID=343)(US Central) (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/account_info.php?BandID=343)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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RELEASES DUE THIS MONTH
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[sterlingice]

I like seeing a Russian name for the band leader. Makes me think I created a mafia member who is running things ;)

As for money to the band, it's not much but it's a start :D

<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="2" width="600"> <tbody><tr><td class="tabSubHead" width="210">Record Label Name:</td> <td class="tabCells" width="376"> FOFC Live! </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="tabSubHead" width="210">Funds:</td> <td class="tabCells" width="376"> Free to spend: $57
Tied up in record contracts: $14
Transfer Funds (http://www.music-maven.com/mm3/label_transfer_funds.php)</td></tr></tbody> </table>

I wish there was a way for label leaders to see which albums brought in which funds.

SI

[vex]

Hmmn, you should have got $2000 from me alone.

[vex]

My label, Sparrow Records, looks like this now:

<TABLE cellPadding=2 width=600 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=tabSubHead width=210>Record Label Name:</TD><TD class=tabCells width=376>Sparrow Records </TD></TR><TR><TD class=tabSubHead width=210>Funds:</TD><TD class=tabCells width=376>Free to spend: $1,498
Tied up in record contracts: $780 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[sterlingice]

Wonder if it takes a month to filter in or something (ie this is from last month).

SI

[vex]

My label got money as soon as the first band released a single last month, we went to $500, now with two more releases we're at $1,500. Seems something is screwy. Who's our accountant anyways?:D

[TazFTW]

Are we sure that playing Music Maven gives happiness?

I just did 11 days of that and I lost happiness.

[sterlingice]

Are we sure that playing Music Maven gives happiness?

I just did 11 days of that and I lost happiness.
Not sure, personally. Did you abuse them in practice? I did this past month and my bands went from 95-100 to 75-80. But if you did 11 days of rest, that leaves a lot less days of practice than I did to them.

SI

[vex]

Ouch.

[TazFTW]

Not sure, personally. Did you abuse them in practice? I did this past month and my bands went from 95-100 to 75-80. But if you did 11 days of rest, that leaves a lot less days of practice than I did to them.

SI
I used a 7 on that laid back to boot camp scale, maybe it was that.

[Ben E Lou]

Look out, fellas. Rumor has it that Too Bad Bruthaz will be releasing their first LP next month.

<table align="center" bgcolor="#666666" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="90%"> <tbody><tr class="tabCells"><td width="126"> Livin' in the A-T-L </td> <td width="89"> 2005-04-01 </td> <td width="100"> Gangsta Groove (Album)
</td> <td align="center" width="64"> 6 </td> </tr> <tr class="tabCells"> <td width="126"> Hardcore Niggaz </td> <td width="89"> 2005-05-01 </td> <td width="100"> Gangsta Groove (Album)
</td> <td align="center" width="64"> 10 </td> </tr> <tr class="tabCells"> <td width="126"> Where my niggaz at? </td> <td width="89"> 2005-06-01 </td> <td width="100"> Gangsta Groove (Album)
</td> <td align="center" width="64"> 11 </td> </tr> <tr class="tabCells"> <td width="126"> Cut it up D.J. </td> <td width="89"> 2005-07-01 </td> <td width="100"> Gangsta Groove (Album)
</td> <td align="center" width="64"> 13 </td> </tr> <tr class="tabCells"> <td width="126"> Thow up ya hands </td> <td width="89"> 2005-08-01 </td> <td width="100"> Gangsta Groove (Album)
</td> <td align="center" width="64"> 15 </td> </tr> <tr class="tabCells"> <td width="126"> Don't Step to us. </td> <td width="89"> 2005-09-01 </td> <td width="100"> Gangsta Groove (Album)
</td> <td align="center" width="64"> 16 </td> </tr> <tr class="tabCells"> <td width="126"> Where da real niggaz at? </td> <td width="89"> 2005-09-01 </td> <td width="100"> Gangsta Groove (Album)
</td> <td align="center" width="64"> 16 </td> </tr> <tr class="tabCells"> <td width="126"> Gangstaz on the move. </td> <td width="89"> 2005-12-01 </td> <td width="100"> Gangsta Groove (Album)
</td> <td align="center" width="64"> 21 </td> </tr></tbody> </table>

[cthomer5000]

Watery Hands have got another single dropping this month. We should be ready to drop a full length of entirely new material in 2-3 months.

Watery Hands

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[Swaggs]

Any of the guys running labels figured out how to resign your bands after they have fulfilled their contracts?

I've looked all over and can't seem to find it.

[vtbub]

The Spinning Wheels are touring the US East Coast.

[Swaggs]

The Spinning Wheels are touring the US East Coast.

You're gonna be huge!

[Calis]

Crap, knew the Pasty White Thighs should've printed more than 2,600...damn it all!

Things are going well though, happy.

[Coffee Warlord]

Legendary Gothic band Office Pimps has officially formed in my Chicago basement. Fear us.