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mckerney
03-02-2005, 02:39 AM
Starts off with Jason Ferguson heading to Dallas (http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1109745743103120.xml).

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 04:32 AM
Good signing (provided the contract is not bloated).

Now to see if the Cowboys' grab Ty Law or Fred Smoot or I guess Anthony Henry who has also been mentioned as a possible addition at corner.

JAG
03-02-2005, 05:52 AM
Nice signing as it fills a desperate need. However, I'm wary because he probably got some big bucks and he's 30.

gottimd
03-02-2005, 07:49 AM
Anyone hear of any new signings on their local news/radio/papers? I can only press refresh on ESPN so many times.

gstelmack
03-02-2005, 08:23 AM
Starts off with Jason Ferguson heading to Dallas (http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1109745743103120.xml).
Umm, didn't it start with Muhammed to the Bears?

JAG
03-02-2005, 08:43 AM
Learn something new every day...here's something I didn't know about restricted free agency:

Restricted free agency: From March 2 through a week before the draft, players with three years of experience can shop their services, but teams that sign them may have to pay a price related to the round in which the player was picked when he came into the league. For example, a former third-round choice requires third-round compensation from the signing team. Teams that are losing a player, though, have a week to match a restricted offer sheet. Restricted free agents are offered a one-year tender at $656,000. Teams can further restrict movement of these players by increasing the tenders. By offering $1.430 million, the team can't lose that player unless they receive a first-round choice. For $1.906 million, the team puts the player's price at first- and third-round choices. A more exclusive tender has been created to prevent movement of a player with three years experience. It's rarely used, but it would count $2.406 million against the cap.

Rarely used...I've never seen it used at all.

Cuckoo
03-02-2005, 09:40 AM
I agree with what has been said. This is a good signing, provided they didn't break the bank on it. Next order of business - corner and safety.

Fonzie
03-02-2005, 09:46 AM
As expected, the Packers cut Mike Wahle. He's likely to be the most sought-after player in FA this year and will land a rich contract very quickly.

I'm a Packers fan, and so while I'm bummed they couldn't work something out I was never very hopeful to begin with.

Cuckoo
03-02-2005, 09:48 AM
As an addendum to those who mentioned Dallas cutting Dexter Coakley... I read this morning that apparently he will run all offers through the Cowboys before signing anywhere else, giving them the opportunity to match anything. I don't know if they actually would or not, but that seems a strange way to do things. He didn't want to lower his salary because he thought he could get more in FA, so it almost looks like a test to see how much he's actually worth.

gottimd
03-02-2005, 09:49 AM
I'm sure most of you have read this (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2002360) , but in case you haven't, here is ESPN's take and rumored teams the top free agents will sign with.

Cuckoo
03-02-2005, 09:49 AM
I'm sure most of you have read this (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2002360) , but in case you haven't, here is ESPN's take and rumored teams the top free agents will sign with.

I'd rather have the Cowboys get Ken Lucas that Fred Smoot, but that's just my opinion.

gottimd
03-02-2005, 09:51 AM
As an addendum to those who mentioned Dallas cutting Dexter Coakley... I read this morning that apparently he will run all offers through the Cowboys before signing anywhere else, giving them the opportunity to match anything. I don't know if they actually would or not, but that seems a strange way to do things. He didn't want to lower his salary because he thought he could get more in FA, so it almost looks like a test to see how much he's actually worth.

So essentially, Coakley is making him self a "Volunteer Restricted Free Agent"?

Cuckoo
03-02-2005, 09:57 AM
However, the Cowboys have and will not close the door on Coakley completely. By releasing him now, it gives him an opportunity to test the free-agent waters, which officially begins Wednesday. Expect Coakley to at least shop his services to other teams, likely looking for a contract that could pay him around the $3.8 million he was scheduled to earn this season. But it's also expected that Coakley will likely run all offers back through Valley Ranch, giving the Cowboys an opportunity to either match or come close to a deal. Coakley has said he would prefer to stay with the Cowboys and finish his career in Dallas.


Yeah, that's what it looks like almost.

albionmoonlight
03-02-2005, 10:06 AM
Saints are openly looking for a right tackle. Victor Riley will not be resigned after leading the team in false starts and never making it through a training camp without punching a teammate. We are interested in Fred Miller from Tenn., but will not pay him anything close to the $10 million signing bonus for which he is looking. I imagine we will end up with Pork Chop Womack or some other such serviceable player. We really need to save the cap room for Deuce's new contract.

And we are openly shopping franchised DE Darren Howard. I kind of hope that we can keep him (you can never have too many good pass rushers), but the team seems to think that the cap dollars can be better spent elsewhere. Who am I to argue.

JeeberD
03-02-2005, 10:19 AM
Yeah, that's what it looks like almost.

Good, I love Dex...

rafini
03-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Free agent time is always so boring for Steelers fans - aside from Staley last year, Jeff Hartings was probably their biggest FA pickup in the last 15 years (Farrior turned out to be a monster, but at the time he wasn't a huge pickup). I'd probably have a heart attack if they actually went out and got themselves a decent cornerback.

Cuckoo
03-02-2005, 10:27 AM
Good, I love Dex...

Agreed, and I'm not too keen on this idea of switching to the 3-4. When several of your top defensive players (Glover, Ellis, Coakley) aren't suited for that alignment, and you have enough problems as it is, it doesn't make sense to me to change the philosophy so greatly. I sincerely hope they don't. I don't mind if they bring in some guys who can play the 3-4 and run it on occasion with their current talent, but a wholesale change seems like the wrong move to me.

Havok
03-02-2005, 10:43 AM
Looks like the Redskins signed the top center in free agency Casey Rabach. Its a good thing to, we need a good center bad.


from espn.com

The team also got an early start on other team's free agents, reaching agreement with center Casey Rabach.

Rabach, an unrestricted free agent widely regarded as the top center in the veteran pool, agreed to a multi-year contract early Wednesday morning, only a few hours after the start of the 2005 signing period. It marked the third year in a row that Redskins owner Dan Snyder signed at least one player on the opening day of free agency.

He found a willing partner in agent Tony Agnone, who also has a reputation for striking quickly in the market.

Contract details were not yet available, but Rabach, who should help stabilize the middle of the Washington offensive line, was scheduled to be a Redskins Park on Wednesday afternoon to have a physical exam and officially sign the contract. In past years, Snyder has dispatched his private jet all over the country to ferry in prospective veterans signees. With Rabach, he actually saved some money, since the four-year veteran can make the easy drive from Baltimore.

Washington officials had cited the center position as one of their top priorities going into the offseason and Rabach represents a considerable upgrade. The Redskins used Lennie Friedman and Cory Raymer at center in 2004 and neither played well. The Redskins, like many teams, had targeted Rabach in recent weeks.

mckerney
03-02-2005, 11:34 AM
Pat Williams and Antonio Pierce are said to be visiting Winter Park today. The Vikings signed Pierce to an offer sheet last year when he was a restricted free agent, so hopefully they can agree on a deal again this year.

Franklinnoble
03-02-2005, 11:40 AM
Raymer wasn't a bad center, and he's a helluva nice guy... I hope he sticks around.

rkmsuf
03-02-2005, 11:43 AM
Raymer wasn't a bad center, and he's a helluva nice guy... I hope he sticks around.

I ain't playin no foosball.

http://img230.exs.cx/img230/7258/raymerhomepage5cm.jpg

Havok
03-02-2005, 01:11 PM
Raymer wasn't a bad center, and he's a helluva nice guy... I hope he sticks around.


he was a bad center last year, before his knee exploded he was a good center though.

Ksyrup
03-02-2005, 01:39 PM
Rams got Coakley.

gottimd
03-02-2005, 01:42 PM
Rams got Coakley.

Wow, that was quick. I thought he was going to try and negotiate with Dallas based on offers he received. He must have went to them, they said "nope" immediately, and he signed with the Rams.

Maybe the impressive coaching of Martz won him over.

JeeberD
03-02-2005, 01:44 PM
Rams got Coakley.

:mad:

Crap, I was really, really hoping that he would re-sign...

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 01:47 PM
Rams got Coakley.
Nooooooooo!

gottimd
03-02-2005, 01:49 PM
:mad:

Crap, I was really, really hoping that he would re-sign...

I think there was a contingency in the deal that stated if you had 15,000 posts, he would've remained in Dallas. Dallas Front Office was sure you were going to eclipse 15K by this afternoon, but you let them down.

WSUCougar
03-02-2005, 01:59 PM
ESPN.com has Broncos SS Kenoy Kennedy going to the Lions.

Cuckoo
03-02-2005, 02:00 PM
:mad:

Second.

RainRaven
03-02-2005, 02:12 PM
Reports have Derrick Mason signing a 4 year deal with the Ravens.. woot!

Tigercat
03-02-2005, 02:13 PM
Is Bradie James the new starter then or do the Cowboys go after someone else?

WSUCougar
03-02-2005, 02:15 PM
Reports have Derrick Mason signing a 4 year deal with the Ravens.. woot!
If/when Mason signs, Plaxico will heat up.

scooper
03-02-2005, 02:16 PM
Reports are TJ Howsithangingramalamadingdong is re-signing with the Bengals today. Four years. Good. He had good chemistry going with Palmer and has played opposite Chad Johnson for years.

WSUCougar
03-02-2005, 02:18 PM
Yup...they're...um...Beavers.

Swaggs
03-02-2005, 02:25 PM
I'm a little surprised that the Ravens are signing Mason. I figured they would give Burress a long look, both because he is talented and to smack the Steelers.

I guess the Jaguars and Jets are possible destinations for him now.

timmyw3
03-02-2005, 02:27 PM
5 years for Mason in Baltimore apparently. Hopefully he doesn't follow in the footsteps of Frank Sanders and Kevin Johnson as guys who were once productive only to their careers die as a Raven.

rkmsuf
03-02-2005, 02:30 PM
Burress is a big risk to give a big money deal to.

timmyw3
03-02-2005, 02:30 PM
I'm a little surprised that the Ravens are signing Mason. I figured they would give Burress a long look, both because he is talented and to smack the Steelers.

I think Mason is a safer bet. He's apparently a good locker room guy and has built himself up from just being a return specialist through his early years. Plax has all the talent in the world but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire and that's with a solid running game and a Pro Bowler playing opposite him i Ward.

scooper
03-02-2005, 02:31 PM
When looking for a #1 WR, sometimes it's risky to sign a #2 guy and expect him to up his production. Burress is talented but was always second fiddle to Hines Ward.

scooper
03-02-2005, 02:33 PM
5 years for Mason in Baltimore apparently. Hopefully he doesn't follow in the footsteps of Frank Sanders and Kevin Johnson as guys who were once productive only to their careers die as a Raven.
KJ was done before he got there. He was a desperate move by a team desperate for WR's.

jbmagic
03-02-2005, 03:03 PM
Rams Sign Coakley

Dexter Coakley has spent his entire eight-year career with the Cowboys. But when Dallas released Coakley on Tuesday night, his search for a new home began. Apparently, that search started and ended in St. Louis.

Coakley reached an agreement with the Rams on a five-year, $14.5 million contract. He will receive a $3 million signing bonus.

http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/48065

sovereignstar
03-02-2005, 03:09 PM
Rams Sign Coakley

Dexter Coakley has spent his entire eight-year career with the Cowboys. But when Dallas released Coakley on Tuesday night, his search for a new home began. Apparently, that search started and ended in St. Louis.

Coakley reached an agreement with the Rams on a five-year, $14.5 million contract. He will receive a $3 million signing bonus.

http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/48065

posted!!!

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showpost.php?p=720708&postcount=23

Ksyrup
03-02-2005, 03:09 PM
When looking for a #1 WR, sometimes it's risky to sign a #2 guy and expect him to up his production. Burress is talented but was always second fiddle to Hines Ward.See: Alvin Harper and Peerless Price.

Then again, maybe this only applies if they went to Tennesee. :D

KWhit
03-02-2005, 03:14 PM
When looking for a #1 WR, sometimes it's risky to sign a #2 guy and expect him to up his production.
Dear Scooper,

You don't know what you're talking about.

- Peerless Price

KWhit
03-02-2005, 03:14 PM
See: Alvin Harper and Peerless Price.

Then again, maybe this only applies if they went to Tennesee. :D
Dammit!

rkmsuf
03-02-2005, 03:15 PM
See: Alvin Harper and Peerless Price.

Then again, maybe this only applies if they went to Tennesee. :D

Difference with Burress is has the tools to be a #1. Those other guys did not. He's such a loafer though and they speculate he's the type that would sit on a big deal.

sovereignstar
03-02-2005, 03:15 PM
Difference with Burress is has the tools to be a #1. Those other guys did not. He's such a loafer though and they speculate he's the type that would sit on a big deal.

Vikings fan: You mean he'll play when he wants to?

WSUCougar
03-02-2005, 03:17 PM
But isn't he peer-less?

rkmsuf
03-02-2005, 03:19 PM
Dear Scooper,

You don't know what you're talking about.

- Peerless Price


Dear Peerless,

I don't see any evidence that you can stand up to having top corners on you.

- Earth

rkmsuf
03-02-2005, 03:23 PM
Vikings fan: You mean he'll play when he wants to?

I wouldn't even say that. I'm not a big Steeler guy but I've never seen the guy fired up or all out. Horrid in 2004. Just terrible. Even if you account for missed time he only had one good game.

Part of it was his role I guess. Looks like they just sent him deep.

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 04:17 PM
Is Bradie James the new starter then or do the Cowboys go after someone else?
I would have figured Brady James would have started without the departure of Coakley, since the Cowboys are switching to a 3-4. It would have either looked like;

Coakley - Nguyen - Singleton - James

or

Coakley - Nguyen - James - Singleton

Now with Coakley gone, the Cowboys' have a need at LB. Haven't given much thought to the Cowboys' switching to the 3-4 but now I know why several mock drafts have had them selecting DE Shawne Merriman from Maryland, who a lot of scouts see as an OLB in the 3-4. David Pollack also looks to be a DE turned rush LB.

Ksyrup
03-02-2005, 04:21 PM
I would have figured Brady James would have started without the departure of Coakley, since the Cowboys are switching to a 3-4. It would have either looked like;

Coakley - Nguyen - Singleton - James

or

Coakley - Nguyen - James - Singleton

Now with Coakley gone, the Cowboys' have a need at LB. Haven't given much thought to the Cowboys' switching to the 3-4 but now I know why several mock drafts have had them selecting DE Shawne Merriman from Maryland, who a lot of scouts see as an OLB in the 3-4. David Pollack also looks to be a DE turned rush LB.Not according to the ESPN article:


In a Tuesday morning meeting, coach Bill Parcells told Coakley that the Cowboys would like to retain him, even if it meant releasing him then re-signing him, but that his role would be reduced as Dallas moved to a 3-4 defense.

Had he opted to remain with the Cowboys, it is likely that Coakley would have played a "nickel" linebacker role, but the Rams project him as a starter. St. Louis is rebuilding its linebacker corps and is seeking to add another veteran, possibly unrestricted free agent Chris Claiborne (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4657) of Minnesota, in coming days.

JAG
03-02-2005, 04:40 PM
The Cowboys were going to get at least one and maybe two LB's in free agency / draft / trade anyway. Coakley's been good for us, but he's getting up there in age so I don't really have a problem with the move.

Word is Dallas has signed CB Anthony Henry. Don't know much about him except that he's definitely going to be an upgrade at right corner.

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 04:43 PM
Yeah, I mentioned that if the Cowboys' decided to stand pat with their current LB corps. Coakley (and Nguyen for that matter) are not the type of LBs that Parcells like.

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 06:37 PM
ESPN.com is saying the Ferguson deal is not done but they're close.

Marco Rivera G is visiting Dallas tonight.

Fonzie
03-02-2005, 06:40 PM
Marco Rivera G is visiting Dallas tonight.

Damn. It'd be nice if the Packers could keep at least one of their two starting guards. :(

Arles
03-02-2005, 07:28 PM
Joe Andruzzi just signed with the Browns for 4 years, $9 million. Wish GB would have pursued him as that's dirt cheap for a solid guard.

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 07:41 PM
Word is Dallas has signed CB Anthony Henry. Don't know much about him except that he's definitely going to be an upgrade at right corner.
Pasquarelli is reporting the deal with Henry is 5 years.


Pasq also reports the Ferguson deal is done. Here are the details "The deal is a five-year, $21.5 million contract that includes a signing bonus of $9 million and will pay him $11.5 million in the first two seasons of the pact."

cthomer5000
03-02-2005, 07:45 PM
dola


John Clayton says the Raiders have signed Lamont Jordan to a 5 year deal (no details mentioned, although I've seen $4 mil a year).
Good for him. He's a great back but obviously would never get the needed time behind Curtis. I wish him the best of luck.

FrogMan
03-02-2005, 07:46 PM
Joe Andruzzi just signed with the Browns for 4 years, $9 million. Wish GB would have pursued him as that's dirt cheap for a solid guard.
yeah, and it makes me sad to see him go, I liked him.

Among other Pats news, they cut Roman Phifer and Troy Brown...

FM

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 07:47 PM
dola


John Clayton says the Raiders have signed Lamont Jordan to a 5 year deal (no details mentioned, although I've seen $4 mil a year).

mckerney
03-02-2005, 07:51 PM
Fox Sports reports that DT Pat Williams has agreed to terms with the Vikings.

Williams and Williams in the middle next year.

mckerney
03-02-2005, 07:52 PM
Dola: 3 years, $13 million for Williams.

sovereignstar
03-02-2005, 07:59 PM
Dola: 3 years, $13 million for Williams.

Does that put them at the minimum yet?
:)

JAG
03-02-2005, 08:08 PM
SI is reporting the Pats are going to trade a 3rd rounder and a swap of like picks in another round for Cardinals CB Duane Starks.

BTW, that deal for Pat Williams looks great for the Vikings. I'm surprised he wasn't able to command more cashola.

I think Dallas overpaid for Ferguson, but alas that was likely the needed price to keep him out of the Jets' hands.

EDIT: Yep. :)

Credit the salesmanship of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and coach Bill Parcells, the man who drafted Ferguson while coaching the Jets, with convincing the defensive tackle to sign. Earlier in the evening, Ferguson informed agent Jimmy Sexton that he wanted to fly home to Memphis to discuss the offers from the Cowboys and the Jets with his wife. But Jones prevailed, hustling home from a league meeting in Atlanta earlier in the day, to help recruit Ferguson.

Ferguson clearly agonized over his decision, and the Jets felt confident they could get him back, but Dallas raised its offer and clearly made a strong sales pitch.

Although he has never played in the Pro Bowl and never registered more than 4½ sacks in a season, Ferguson was a highly coveted player in this year's free agent pool, and the competition for his services was heated. So determined were the Jets to keep him that, on Tuesday, the team dispatched assistant general manager Mike Tannenbaum to Memphis, unannounced, to meet with Sexton.

Several other teams, beyond the Jets and Cowboys, were also in pursuit and most of them phoned Sexton shortly after the free agency period began.

mckerney
03-02-2005, 08:17 PM
BTW, that deal for Pat Williams looks great for the Vikings. I'm surprised he wasn't able to command more cashola.

Yeah, Ted Cottrel may have helped talked another former Bill into joining the Vikings. He should be great at nose tackle lining up next to Kevin Williams.

Hopefully they can add Antonio Pierce soon as well.

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 08:27 PM
The Cowboys gave Anthony Henry a $10 mil signing bonus. :confused:

sovereignstar
03-02-2005, 08:32 PM
Yeah, Ted Cottrel may have helped talked another former Bill into joining the Vikings. He should be great at nose tackle lining up next to Kevin Williams.

Hopefully they can add Antonio Pierce soon as well.

This is from The Insiders

While the word is good on the Williams front, it now looks much less likely that the Vikings will sign LB Antonio Pierce, who seems to be priced out of what the Vikings were considering spending.

mckerney
03-02-2005, 08:34 PM
Damn.

sovereignstar
03-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Okay, so now it looks like Pierce has gone to the Giants for 26.5 over 6 with a 6.5 bonus.

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Full details of the Henry deal.

Henry will get a five-year, $25 million deal. The fourth-year veteran will bank a $10 million signing bonus, a $1 million roster bonus in 2005 and a $1 million roster bonus in 2006. He will be paid $18 million over the first three years of his contract.

Arles
03-02-2005, 10:24 PM
Colts just released TE Marcus Pollard
Eagles resigned Buckholter
Jags signed DE Reggie Hayward to a 5-year $25 million deal ($10 mil guaranteed)

Danny
03-02-2005, 10:27 PM
The Raiders have now fit Charles Woodson, Randy Moss and Lamont Jodan under the cap while cutting some near useless players (Ray Buchanon, Roland Williams, John Parella, Ty Wheatley, Frank Middleton).

They also restructured Kerry Collins, Rich Gannon, Barry Sims and one or two other players.

I am very happy with this signing. Jordan has looked excellent whenever I have seen him and while he hasn't proven he can be a 300+ carry back, with the Raiders passing game, he should be very successful.

Now, they just need to somehow improve the defense.

TazFTW
03-02-2005, 10:31 PM
SI is reporting the Pats are going to trade a 3rd rounder and a swap of like picks in another round for Cardinals CB Duane Starks.
Done deal and they swap 5th round picks.

Danny
03-02-2005, 10:43 PM
Once again a nice move by the Pats getting Starks. He is not a very good corner for teams without pass rush, but is a good guy for their system

Tigercat
03-03-2005, 12:18 AM
There is a rumor that a trade of Donovan Darius for Darren Howard is in the works.

Vinatieri for Prez
03-03-2005, 12:54 AM
Out with Law, in with Starks. It seems they opted to give up a draft pick instead of spending crazy dollars on a CB in free agency. See what Henry got from the Cowboys!

I think they also are getting him to restructure his contract. I believe he had 2 years left at 3.6 mill a year. If that number comes down from there even more, I say that is not a bad cap number for the next couple of years for a solid CB, which is all they need in Foxboro (although the 3rd rounder would have been nice to get a solid LB prospect in the draft). I am wondering if Tyrone Poole is going to be gone now. I think so.

albionmoonlight
03-03-2005, 06:26 AM
There is a rumor that a trade of Donovan Darius for Darren Howard is in the works.
Where's the rumor from?

FrogMan
03-03-2005, 07:05 AM
Out with Law, in with Starks. It seems they opted to give up a draft pick instead of spending crazy dollars on a CB in free agency. See what Henry got from the Cowboys!

I think they also are getting him to restructure his contract. I believe he had 2 years left at 3.6 mill a year. If that number comes down from there even more, I say that is not a bad cap number for the next couple of years for a solid CB, which is all they need in Foxboro (although the 3rd rounder would have been nice to get a solid LB prospect in the draft). I am wondering if Tyrone Poole is going to be gone now. I think so.
Thing that's bugging me about Starks is I'm reading he's been injured more often than not. Anybody can confirm that? (was actually gonna ask "any Cards fan can confirm that?" but thought better of it :) )

FM

Thomkal
03-03-2005, 07:34 AM
As one of the few Cardinal fans out there, Starks was injured in all his seasons with the Cards, missing 6 games in 2002, the entire season in 2003, and two games this past season. Looking at his injury page at SI.com, he's had a ton of injuries.

At first I was questioning this deal, because I'm not sure who else they have at corner, but Starks isn't getting any younger and with those injuries, perhaps it was a good time to part with him and get some value for him.

rkmsuf
03-03-2005, 01:14 PM
Lions fans on the various Lions boards out there are going nuts right now. They want action and they want it now!


Kurt Warner was in town :)

WSUCougar
03-03-2005, 01:14 PM
LB Antonio Pierce to the Giants (six-years, $26 million)

Honolulu_Blue
03-03-2005, 01:17 PM
Lions fans on the various Lions boards out there are going nuts right now. They want action and they want it now!

rkmsuf
03-03-2005, 01:17 PM
Pierce reportedly ended discussions with the Vikings when he found that the signing bonus wouldn't be paid until this summer.

Seems kind of weak. I mean it's not like they are going to run out of GTA San Andreas or something.

mckerney
03-03-2005, 01:20 PM
LB Antonio Pierce to the Giants (six-years, $26 million)

Pierce reportedly ended discussions with the Vikings when he found that the signing bonus wouldn't be paid until this summer.

rkmsuf
03-03-2005, 02:05 PM
Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division.

The Giants would need that guy but I don't see the Vikings as needing to spend for that guy.

If the Vikings take on Burress they might as well have kept Moss unless it's a very cheap deal.

The Giants if can see splurging on him though and it making some kind of sense.

Swaggs
03-03-2005, 02:07 PM
Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division.

TazFTW
03-03-2005, 02:09 PM
Len Pasquarelli is reporting that the Texans have signed free agent LB Morlon Greenwood (Dolphins) to a five-year, $22.5 million contract including a $7 million signing bonus. Greenwood will earn salaries of $540,000 (for 2005), $2.56 million (2006), $3.4 million (2007), $4 million (2008) and $5 million (2009). Those salaries include $100,000 workout bonuses for some seasons.


Nick Eatman of DallasCowboys.com says the Cowboys' are close to signing Marco Rivera.

mckerney
03-03-2005, 02:23 PM
Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division.

Burress would be a good fit as the #2 WR here.

sovereignstar
03-03-2005, 02:24 PM
Plaxico Burress is supposedly deciding between the Vikings and the Giants now. I'd be happy to see him go to either, if he isn't going to be in Pittsburgh. I definitely don't want to see him in our division.

Not doubting you or anything, but what's your source here?

rkmsuf
03-03-2005, 02:30 PM
Burress would be a good fit as the #2 WR here.

I really question how good that guy is.

Maybe he'd be a good #2 but what kind of money does that cost the Vikes?

JAG
03-03-2005, 02:31 PM
Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have agreed to terms with free agent G Mike Wahle (Packers). Terms of the deal weren't available immediately, but it's believed Wahle was seeking a signing bonus in excess of $10 million.

Panthers were under the radar here...I hadn't heard they were even in the running here.

rkmsuf
03-03-2005, 02:40 PM
With Red still at the helm you can be sure they won't pay too much. Paying enough is not even likely.

Then I guess you are in the clear.

WSUCougar
03-03-2005, 02:41 PM
Panthers were under the radar here...I hadn't heard they were even in the running here.
Me either, but I like it. I'm a closet Panthers' fan (3rd fave team).

mckerney
03-03-2005, 02:43 PM
I really question how good that guy is.

Maybe he'd be a good #2 but what kind of money does that cost the Vikes?

With Red still at the helm you can be sure they won't pay too much. Paying enough is not even likely.

Swaggs
03-03-2005, 02:51 PM
Not doubting you or anything, but what's your source here?


From ESPN Insider:


Plaxico Burress
Steelers

Mar. 3 - The Giants are interested in wide receiver Plaxico Burress, but will likely take a wait-and-see approach until his market is set, The New York Daily News reports. "I have talked to the Giants very briefly," Burress' agent, Michael Harrison, told The New York Post. "I think their top priority was offensive line and linebacker, and then they're gonna kind of flip it and see what's going on, see how much money they have left."

According to The Post, Burress is likely headed for Minnesota to replace Randy Moss.

TazFTW
03-03-2005, 02:59 PM
ESPN.com has Broncos SS Kenoy Kennedy going to the Lions.
Not a done deal. He is visiting the Lions today though.

rkmsuf
03-03-2005, 02:59 PM
Well I know the Pats gave him little respect in their game planning. They put munchins, one on one on him and he didn't get open.

The good game he had, one catch was total luck in the endzone on a ball underthrown.

Swaggs
03-03-2005, 03:01 PM
It is hard to say how good he is or can be, really. I know I have seen him play a lot over the years, and his size and speed make him pretty hard to match up with. He has a bad reputation from doing some stupid things his first few years (spiking the ball after a catch for a 1st Down w/o being touched that resulted in a fumble, public intoxication, having loud parties in an "old money" neighborhood), but in the past two or three seasons, I think he has matured and works hard now. He is overshadowed by Hines Ward, but Burress is a real good blocker.

With the Steelers, until this season (and that could just be a jinx), he never had great QBs to work with (Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox) and has always played in a run first offense. I love Ward and would choose him over Burress in a second, but I would imagine other teams worried alot more about matching up with Burress than Ward.

I would guess that Burress, if he played in the Vikings offense and stayed healthy, would put up 80+ catches and 1250+ yards. I don't see him doing anything, number-wise, beyond his typical Steelers' years playing for the Giants.

Kodos
03-03-2005, 03:03 PM
What I like is that Plaxico's departure will help my man Antwaan Randle El move into a starting role. :)

henry296
03-03-2005, 03:05 PM
As for Burress, despite his height and speed and he is not good at the jump ball... The best example was in the AFC title game on the fade pattern near the goal line. It don't think he has great hands. I am not too sad to see him go, especially if the Steelers take a WR in Rounds 1 or 2.

Todd

JeeberD
03-03-2005, 03:17 PM
What I like is that Plaxico's departure will help my man Antwaan Randle El move into a starting role. :)

Sorry, I think you mean my man Lee Mays... :)

wishbone
03-03-2005, 03:17 PM
49ers have signed Jonas Jennings to play LT

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/03/03/bc.fbn.49ers.jennings.ap/index.html

stkelly52
03-03-2005, 03:30 PM
Sounds like the Seahawks' Ken Lucas has signed with the Panthers

JAG
03-03-2005, 03:44 PM
"Dallas also got free-agent help for the offensive line with Rivera.

Rivera, who had played 10 seasons for the Packers, is a two-time Pro Bowl selection at guard who has played in 99 straight games. He has signed to a five-year deal worth about $21 million, including a $9 million signing bonus. His salary will count for $2.6 million against cap this season."

He may be a good player, but Dallas overpaid for that one. 5 yr, $21 mil, $9 mil bonus for a 33 yr old guard? Didn't we learn our lesson with Larry Allen? Oh well, looks like Bill is loading up for a final run.

TazFTW
03-03-2005, 03:44 PM
Sounds like the Seahawks' Ken Lucas has signed with the Panthers
Grabbed this from KFFL.


Jay Glazer (http://www.kffl.com/link/14), of FOXSports.com, reports the Carolina Panthers (http://www.kffl.com/team/10/nfl) have agreed to terms with CB Ken Lucas (http://www.kffl.com/player/1674/nfl) (Seahawks) on a contract. KFFL has learned Lucas has agreed to a six-year deal with the team. Complete financial details have yet to be disclosed, but the deal is believed to average $8 million per year over the first two years. The deal is also believed to have a split bonus and will total $13.5 to $14 million over those two years in bonus money.

TazFTW
03-03-2005, 04:10 PM
"Dallas also got free-agent help for the offensive line with Rivera.

Rivera, who had played 10 seasons for the Packers, is a two-time Pro Bowl selection at guard who has played in 99 straight games. He has signed to a five-year deal worth about $21 million, including a $9 million signing bonus. His salary will count for $2.6 million against cap this season."

He may be a good player, but Dallas overpaid for that one. 5 yr, $21 mil, $9 mil bonus for a 33 yr old guard? Didn't we learn our lesson with Larry Allen? Oh well, looks like Bill is loading up for a final run.
Update from Pasq, "the Dallas Cowboys have signed free agent G Marco Rivera (Packers) to a five-year, $20 million contract that includes a $9 million signing bonus. The deal is worth $13.5 million over its first three seasons."

It fills a need and Rivera is a good blocker. The deal doesn't sound too bad if the Cowboys need to cut him after 3 years.

Fonzie
03-03-2005, 04:11 PM
He may be a good player, but Dallas overpaid for that one. 5 yr, $21 mil, $9 mil bonus for a 33 yr old guard? Didn't we learn our lesson with Larry Allen? Oh well, looks like Bill is loading up for a final run.

I'm a Packers fan and I agree with this assessment wholeheartedly. I love Rivera, but that bonus is crazy.

TazFTW
03-03-2005, 04:17 PM
The Rivera contract does look bad compared to what Wahle signed for. I would have figured Wahle would have gotten more money as some teams can see him being able to be a good LT.

Arles
03-03-2005, 04:26 PM
"Dallas also got free-agent help for the offensive line with Rivera.

Rivera, who had played 10 seasons for the Packers, is a two-time Pro Bowl selection at guard who has played in 99 straight games. He has signed to a five-year deal worth about $21 million, including a $9 million signing bonus. His salary will count for $2.6 million against cap this season."

He may be a good player, but Dallas overpaid for that one. 5 yr, $21 mil, $9 mil bonus for a 33 yr old guard? Didn't we learn our lesson with Larry Allen? Oh well, looks like Bill is loading up for a final run.
Damn, GB was "considering" giving him a $3.5-$4 million bonus but was hesitant to even go that high. I think people need to understand that the OL system in GB (by Larry Beightol) is a big reason for the play of the individuals - much like with the old Denver teams. There's a reason why guys like Verba have disappointed their new teams after being signed for large FA deals and I expect a similar level of "value dis-satisfaction" for Rivera and Wahle's new teams after their huge deals.

GB didn't have one first round pick on their line in 2004, as they had a 2nd (Clifton), 2nd Supplementary (Wahle), 3rd (Flanagan), 7th (Tauscher) and 6th (Rivera). Even their main backups were late round or undrafted - Scott Wells (7th round), Curtain (6th round) and Kevin Barry (undrafted). So, I would be about as leary with GB OL as you would be with Denver RBs in free agency. Their system seems to be a main reason for their success on the OL, not any given player.

Arles
03-03-2005, 04:27 PM
The Rivera contract does look bad compared to what Wahle signed for. I would have figured Wahle would have gotten more money as some teams can see him being able to be a good LT.
He failed miserably as a tackle in GB. He's a nice guard though. Still, any team that pays him as a tackle will probably end up with an overpaid guard after a season.

korme
03-03-2005, 04:36 PM
Unrestricted veteran wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh agreed to a four-year, $13 million deal with the Bengals.

Cool. He makes for a good 3rd option, with Warrick hopefully coming back into the picture healthy this year.

Palmer should have plenty of weapons - Warrick, Houshmandzadeh, Kelley Washington, and of course Chad "Didn't Drop A Ball in Honolulu During That Hands Contest Thing Even Though He Didn't Warm Up" Johnson.


I just want a shirt that says Houshmandzadeh on it

TazFTW
03-03-2005, 04:54 PM
from KFFL

ESPNews reports the St. Louis Rams (http://www.kffl.com/team/34/nfl) have signed free agent LB Chris Claiborne (http://www.kffl.com/player/645/nfl) (Vikings) to a three-year, $10.5 million contract.

Cuckoo
03-03-2005, 05:01 PM
Yikes - Dallas is dishing out the bonus money. I suppose they have it to spend, but still...

mckerney
03-03-2005, 06:32 PM
<a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/11044220.htm">Burress Interested In Vikings</a>

Reportedly Burress and Taylor both contacted the Vikings first rather than the Vikings pursueing them.

General Mike
03-03-2005, 06:56 PM
when the f are the giants gonna sign an OL?

Travis
03-03-2005, 07:03 PM
DAMMIT, I wanted Lucas back. Looks like our secondary will feature another rookie for the 3rd year in a row. Wonder if this means they'll resign Okeafor.

TazFTW
03-03-2005, 07:45 PM
the Jets sign Derrick Blaylock to a five-year, $11.1 million deal that includes a $3.2 million signing bonus.

Pyser
03-03-2005, 08:35 PM
giants cut ike hilliard.

General Mike
03-03-2005, 08:54 PM
giants cut ike hilliard.

Thank god.

Pyser
03-03-2005, 08:55 PM
now if we'd only cut will allen.

Pyser
03-03-2005, 10:40 PM
WR Patten has left the pats for the skins.

TazFTW
03-03-2005, 11:36 PM
Broncos signed Ian Gold to a 5 year $22.5 million deal with a $8.5 mil signing bonus and they resigned Ben Hamilton to 5 year $16.25 mil deal with a $5.5 mil signing bonus.

Scarecrow
03-04-2005, 08:27 AM
Since the Chiefs appear to be the team to watch (written as of 8:30pm last night)...


Give the Kansas City Chiefs credit for one thing. They’ve been making a name for themselves in free agency despite the fact they’ve yet to sign anyone. In a matter of one hour they were talking contracts with three players and welcoming another visitor to Arrowhead. After analyzing the last two hours, we think we might have our fingers on the pulse of the things to come from Arrowhead in the next twenty four hours.


With Jeremiah Trotter, Ed Hartwell and Samari Rolle in town, the Chiefs wined, dined and entertained three of the top free agents in the 2005 class. After spending nearly 24 hours in town, the Chiefs put on the hard sell to all three veterans. Both Hartwell and Trotter were scheduled to leave town at 3:00 but that changed when agents started getting involved.

Trotter was on the phone with his agent Jimmy Sexton. Hartwell was conferring with his agent Harold Lewis and the action was hot and heavy. Both were secluded in parts of Arrowhead. Sometime between that time and 6:00 Trotter left without a contract offer to his liking. According to what we’ve been able to piece together, Trotter was looking for a double digit signing bonus.

Antonio Pierce who left Washington for the New York Giants signed a six-year $26 million contract that included a $6.5 million signing bonus. The Chiefs were believed to be offering roughly the same deal. Sexton was looking for a signing bonus closer to $10-11 million for Trotter.

He left Arrowhead without a contract and told reporters that he intended to make a couple more visits. Those visits could include Seattle and Atlanta. But some insist that if the knees are sound that the Eagles might get back into the race and retain their top linebacker.

An hour before Trotter left, Samari Rolle and his wife left Kansas City and headed to the airport. They were driven by Chiefs Head Coach Dick Vermeil. Rolle talked with reporters before he left and indicated that he was not planning on making any other visits and planned to go home tomorrow to celebrate his daughters birthday. He was also very clear that he had not visited the Washington Redskins who were rumored to be one of the front runners to sign the former Tennessee Titans cornerback.

He made it clear that he wants to make up his mind by Friday as to where he’ll play next season. So with no visits scheduled, that could lead some to conclude that Rolle is hopeful that a deal can get done with Kansas City.

Ed Hartwell as of this hour is still in Kansas City. His agent who considers Vermeil one of the NFL’s greatest head coaches was trying to secure a deal that would make Hartwell a Chief.

The Chiefs made offers to all three free agents but they were hardly resting on their laurels. In the midst of contract talks with all three players, Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Kendrell Bell was making his way toward Arrowhead for his interview with Gunther Cunningham and Dick Vermeil.

Bell was the star of the Pittsburgh Steelers four man linebacking crew but injuries have plagued him the last two seasons. But he along with Hartwell would solidify the Chiefs linebacker corps and would bridge the gap until Shawn Barber returns midway through the 2005 season.

Warpaint Illustrated did learn this afternoon that they are expecting Safety Sammy Knight in for a visit as early as Monday. The Chiefs would like to add a veteran safety in free agency and they’d like to find someone who can compete with incumbent starter Jerome Woods. The Chiefs were not pleased with Woods last season and they’ve already indicated that they want to upgrade the position or add depth.

With all that said, things at Arrowhead are quiet. But that could change in a heartbeat. I won’t lean either way but I’d say the Chiefs could have two new additions to their defense in the next 24 hours.

Stay tuned to Warpaint Illustrated for the latest Chiefs free agent news.

...

I was listening to a KC sports radio show last night and they interviewed both Hartwell and Rolle. Hartwell was asked if he was going to be a Chief next year and his response was "I look forward to it." Rumour has it that an announcemnt will be made today.

Rolle was interviewed afterwards. He stated that he wasnt going anywhere else to visit, that he was going home and then to a birthday party Saturday. He said he wanted to have everything done by Friday. Rolle also said he wants to win football games and get back to being with a succussful team. The interviewer asked him if he knew about the KC offense, Rolle's reply was pretty much who doesnt and then he went on to say that the D is a few peices away from a succussful puzzle. He was also very clear that he had not visited the Washington Redskins.

rkmsuf
03-04-2005, 08:29 AM
I wouldn't touch Trotter with a ten foot pole for the money he's looking for.

cartman
03-04-2005, 10:49 AM
Jumping in here late, but actually the Cowboys cutting Dexter Coakley gives me a little bit of hope that they will take Derrick Johnson in the draft and not pass him over.

sovereignstar
03-04-2005, 11:00 AM
Jumping in here late, but actually the Cowboys cutting Dexter Coakley gives me a little bit of hope that they will take Derrick Johnson in the draft and not pass him over.

You're nuts if you think Johnson is going to be available at No. 11.

WSUCougar
03-04-2005, 12:09 PM
You're nuts if you think Johnson is going to be available at No. 11.
Yeah, I'm very skeptical that the Vikes will have a shot at him with #7.

scooper
03-04-2005, 12:43 PM
Unrestricted veteran wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh agreed to a four-year, $13 million deal with the Bengals.

Cool. He makes for a good 3rd option, with Warrick hopefully coming back into the picture healthy this year.

Palmer should have plenty of weapons - Warrick, Houshmandzadeh, Kelley Washington, and of course Chad "Didn't Drop A Ball in Honolulu During That Hands Contest Thing Even Though He Didn't Warm Up" Johnson.


I just want a shirt that says Houshmandzadeh on it
At that price, TJ's #2 and he earned it last season.

Warrick will not be in stripes next season. Not at his cap price.

mckerney
03-04-2005, 12:57 PM
Yeah, I'm very skeptical that the Vikes will have a shot at him with #7.

He's who I hope the Vikings can get, but I doubt they'll be able to land him at 7. Hopefully at least Pac Man Jones will be available.

Pyser
03-04-2005, 01:16 PM
Trotter sticks with Eagles:

The seven-year veteran will sign a five-year contract worth $15 million and including a signing bonus of $4 million.

cartman
03-04-2005, 01:17 PM
You're nuts if you think Johnson is going to be available at No. 11.

That's what I was thinking as well, but most of the mock drafts I've seen have him falling all the way to the Texans. I'm figuring he'll go in the Top 5, but who knows.

TazFTW
03-04-2005, 02:26 PM
WR Patten has left the pats for the skins.
Details are "David Patten's contract with the Redskins is for five years, $13 million, with $3.5 million up front."

Drew Brees has signed his franchise tender.

KFFL is saying that the Giants sign Kareem McKenzie to a 7 year $37.75 million deal with a $12.5 mil signing bonus.

Honolulu_Blue
03-04-2005, 02:33 PM
That's what I was thinking as well, but most of the mock drafts I've seen have him falling all the way to the Texans. I'm figuring he'll go in the Top 5, but who knows.
The majority of the latest mocks I've seen (all post-combine) have the Browns taking Johnson with the #3 pick.

WSUCougar
03-04-2005, 02:49 PM
The majority of the latest mocks I've seen (all post-combine) have the Browns taking Johnson with the #3 pick.
What are they going to do for a QB?

Danny
03-04-2005, 02:50 PM
What are they going to do for a QB?

They like Kelly Holcomb and supposedly want him to be their starter.

WSUCougar
03-04-2005, 02:51 PM
Oh, Romeo.

TazFTW
03-04-2005, 02:51 PM
I've heard if they can't get a deal with Holcomb, they're looking into Trent Dilfer...

korme
03-04-2005, 03:01 PM
They like Kelly Holcomb and supposedly want him to be their starter.
Not a bad idea. In Madden we did a 6 team fantasy draft round robin + playoffs. Thinking like the Pats, I stacked my D, got a horse of a RB (Shaun mfn Alexander), quick receivers, and with the last pick in the draft, selected my QB Kelly Holcomb. Throws a nice short pass, fitting my style.

Needless to say we went 5-0, then went through 2 rounds in the playoffs to sweep everyone and take the $25 pot. Holcomb lead the league in QB rating.

Thank you, Kelly Holcomb.

Fonzie
03-04-2005, 03:18 PM
Not a bad idea. In Madden we did a 6 team fantasy draft round robin + playoffs. Thinking like the Pats, I stacked my D, got a horse of a RB (Shaun mfn Alexander), quick receivers, and with the last pick in the draft, selected my QB Kelly Holcomb. Throws a nice short pass, fitting my style.

Needless to say we went 5-0, then went through 2 rounds in the playoffs to sweep everyone and take the $25 pot. Holcomb lead the league in QB rating.

Thank you, Kelly Holcomb.

You should report this to Holcomb's agent immediately.

Pyser
03-04-2005, 03:45 PM
KFFL is saying that the Giants sign Kareem McKenzie to a 7 year $37.75 million deal with a $12.5 mil signing bonus.

mark my words. worst signing of the off-season.

that is STUPID money for a freakin right tackle. for that money, we couldve got a much better left tackle, and moved petigout over to rt.

TazFTW
03-04-2005, 03:57 PM
Jets have signed DT Lance Legree to a 5 year $7.3 million deal with an addition $2.5 mil in incentives.


The Jets have also signed restricted FA TE Jeb Putzier of the Broncos to a 5 year $12.5 million offer sheet with $2.5 mil signing bonus. The Broncos have 7 days to match the offer or will be given a 6th round draft pick.

TazFTW
03-04-2005, 04:30 PM
The Seahawks have released LB Anthony Simmons.



Saw the following in an article by Len Pasquarelli, "University of Texas linebacker Derrick Johnson is the consensus top prospect at his position, and most teams agree he will be off the draft board by the middle of the first round. But a few scouts worry that Johnson is a "run-around" defender, a pursuit guy who doesn't take on blocks well and sheds poorly."

Any thoughts on the "run-around" defender bit?

dawgfan
03-04-2005, 05:00 PM
DAMMIT, I wanted Lucas back. Looks like our secondary will feature another rookie for the 3rd year in a row. Wonder if this means they'll resign Okeafor.

I had a nasty feeling all offseason that with all the talk of the "big 3" of Jones, Hasselbeck and Alexander that Lucas was being overlooked. Given his comments today about the signing, I'm not sure the 'Hawks ever had a realistic shot at him.

With the number of unrestricted FA's left on the Seahawks plate, it'll be real interesting to see how they deal with the obvious holes in the secondary and at LB now that they've released Simmons and Robinson.

General Mike
03-04-2005, 05:20 PM
mark my words. worst signing of the off-season.

that is STUPID money for a freakin right tackle. for that money, we couldve got a much better left tackle, and moved petigout over to rt.

What LT could we have gotten that is better for the same money?

Travis
03-04-2005, 05:35 PM
Best part for the Hawks is the rumors going around that they may cut Brown as well if they can't reach an agreement on restructuring his contract.

Good thing we're so deep at LB, hey, wait a minute...

TazFTW
03-04-2005, 05:38 PM
Cap update


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=1510617


Hmmm, the Cowboys still have $11 mil under the cap....

Franklinnoble
03-04-2005, 05:44 PM
Does that include the rookie pool?

Lots of teams with millions left over... not sure how significant that is at this point, though.

TazFTW
03-04-2005, 05:49 PM
I believe it would not include whatever money needs to be set aside for rookies.

Pyser
03-04-2005, 06:06 PM
What LT could we have gotten that is better for the same money?

jennings signed with SF for a similar deal, didnt he? same with whichever packer went to carolina.

TazFTW
03-04-2005, 07:08 PM
Kelly Holcomb has signed a 4 year $6.6 million deal with a $2 mil signing bonus to the Buffalo Bills.

WSUCougar
03-04-2005, 07:50 PM
does this mean the dilfer to the browns talks heat up?
It means that Browns season ticket sales don't.

Joe
03-04-2005, 07:50 PM
jennings signed with SF for a similar deal, didnt he? same with whichever packer went to carolina.

that was wahle, and he's a guard.

Joe
03-04-2005, 07:51 PM
Kelly Holcomb has signed a 4 year $6.6 million deal with a $2 mil signing bonus to the Buffalo Bills.

does this mean the dilfer to the browns talks heat up?

TazFTW
03-04-2005, 08:00 PM
The Browns have signed CB Gary Baxter to a 6 year deal. Terms not disclosed but it is reported he is getting close to a $15 million signing bonus :eek:


With the signing bonuses Henry, Lucas, and now Baxter have gotten, Samari Rolle and Ty Law are going to get paid a hell of a lot.

sovereignstar
03-04-2005, 09:12 PM
Who in the hell is Gary Baxter? Didn't he play power forward for one of the Terps' Final Four teams?

Bearcat729
03-04-2005, 09:18 PM
The Browns have signed CB Gary Baxter to a 6 year deal. Terms not disclosed but it is reported he is getting close to a $15 million signing bonus :eek:


With the signing bonuses Henry, Lucas, and now Baxter have gotten, Samari Rolle and Ty Law are going to get paid a hell of a lot.


ESPN says 6 years 30 mil 10.5 mil bonus. Which isn't too bad and I trust that Savage knows what kind of player Baxter is considering that he helped draft him.

I have a feeling that Law and Rolle are going to find out that the money won't be there when they do sign.

Cuckoo
03-04-2005, 09:28 PM
Hmmm, the Cowboys still have $11 mil under the cap....

Not surprising. They had a ton of cap room even before they cut Dexter Coakley and Marcellus Wiley.

Eaglesfan27
03-04-2005, 09:28 PM
Trotter sticks with Eagles:

The seven-year veteran will sign a five-year contract worth $15 million and including a signing bonus of $4 million.
I'm very happy that the Eagles signed him at this price range. He was a key factor in the run defense last year, and I think the Philly environment will keep him motivated.

Franklinnoble
03-04-2005, 09:42 PM
I'm very happy that the Eagles signed him at this price range. He was a key factor in the run defense last year, and I think the Philly environment will keep him motivated.

Hah. Until he's in a contract year, don't expect him to be too motivated.

Joe
03-04-2005, 09:48 PM
Who in the hell is Gary Baxter? Didn't he play power forward for one of the Terps' Final Four teams?

Lonnie Baxter.

sovereignstar
03-04-2005, 10:03 PM
Lonnie Baxter.

Next time I'll include the sarcasm tags for you.
:)

amdaily
03-04-2005, 10:15 PM
Kelly Holcomb has signed a 4 year $6.6 million deal with a $2 mil signing bonus to the Buffalo Bills.
Apparently turned down 4 years at $8 million plus the starting job with Cleveland.

As a Cleveland fan, thank goodness http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

SunDancer
03-04-2005, 11:06 PM
Kelly Holcomb has signed a 4 year $6.6 million deal with a $2 mil signing bonus to the Buffalo Bills.

Bills also added Chicago Bears offensive linemen (to be a tackle) Wayne Gandy.

The Bills are about $500k in cap space left. Will they be able to spend for the draft picks? Also, will they get more room next year with the release of Bledsoe, with Jennings and Williams gone. Henry will be traded too.

Vinatieri for Prez
03-04-2005, 11:13 PM
Yeah, the Holcomb deal is puzzling. He was offered more money up front and in total for the same amount of years AND the starting job, and turned it down. Really puzzling decision by him actually. It's not that bad in Cleveland is it, with Romeo and Savage on board?

I am also in agreement that if Rolle and Law don't sign soon, the money is going to start drying up for them.

Eaglesfan27
03-04-2005, 11:15 PM
Hah. Until he's in a contract year, don't expect him to be too motivated.
I think the winning atmosphere and pressure from veterans will keep him in line in Philly. Least I hope so.

amdaily
03-04-2005, 11:26 PM
Yeah, the Holcomb deal is puzzling. He was offered more money up front and in total for the same amount of years AND the starting job, and turned it down. Really puzzling decision by him actually. It's not that bad in Cleveland is it, with Romeo and Savage on board?

I am also in agreement that if Rolle and Law don't sign soon, the money is going to start drying up for them.
From the interview he gave with the local media he was mad about the Browns wanting to take a negotiation hiatus till next week. *Deep Southern Tennessee accent* That's not the type of thing you're supposed to do *off* http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

Not like the backup FA market was going to dry up anytime soon...

Bearcat729
03-05-2005, 12:43 AM
I am glad he won't be back. The Browns won't do much next year and I would rather them go with McCown or Josh Harris rather than tie that much money up with Holcomb

Vinatieri for Prez
03-05-2005, 01:25 AM
From the interview he gave with the local media he was mad about the Browns wanting to take a negotiation hiatus till next week. *Deep Southern Tennessee accent* That's not the type of thing you're supposed to do *off* http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

Not like the backup FA market was going to dry up anytime soon...

Now it's even more puzzling. He's a moron. He just set what's left of his career back to the permanent backup QB role. I seriously don't get it.

cthomer5000
03-05-2005, 02:02 AM
I am glad he won't be back. The Browns won't do much next year and I would rather them go with McCown or Josh Harris rather than tie that much money up with Holcomb
I agree.... if your goal is to acquire the #1 pick in 2006.

Danny
03-05-2005, 02:13 AM
I think Kelly Holcomb could have been a solid starter for the Browns. He's played decent on the whole and good in stretches when healthy.

Pyser
03-05-2005, 03:29 AM
that was wahle, and he's a guard.

he WAS a guard. carolina is playing him at tackle.

TazFTW
03-05-2005, 03:41 AM
ESPN says 6 years 30 mil 10.5 mil bonus.
Okay, $10.5 ain't that bad. It would have been horrible had it been $15.


Bills also added Chicago Bears offensive linemen (to be a tackle) Wayne Gandy.
Actually they added Mike Gandy, an oft injured guard. Wayne Gandy still plays for the Saints.


The Cardinals signed OT Oliver Ross (Pittsburgh) for 5 years $17.5 million.

Thomkal
03-05-2005, 07:47 AM
well I guess the Cards signing heats up those Shelton/Travis Henry deal with the Bills, which last I heard hadn't gone through

Bubba Wheels
03-05-2005, 08:50 AM
One of the great joys of traveling interstate in my small business is that I get to check out the local sports talk shows and contrast them. In Wisconsin on Thursday night I hear the locals talking about Dallas' signing of M. Rivera for $10 million signing bonus as the 'mark of a desperate team. His knees will never hold up." The next day around Detroit I hear "Lions better sign someone after having lost out on Rivera." Actually pretty funny.

Honolulu_Blue
03-05-2005, 09:42 AM
One of the great joys of traveling interstate in my small business is that I get to check out the local sports talk shows and contrast them. In Wisconsin on Thursday night I hear the locals talking about Dallas' signing of M. Rivera for $10 million signing bonus as the 'mark of a desperate team. His knees will never hold up." The next day around Detroit I hear "Lions better sign someone after having lost out on Rivera." Actually pretty funny.

Detroit fans and the media are going nuts about the Lions lack of movement in free agnecy. If they don't sign someone quick I think there will be a riot. The Lions do need another guard though. They're in all likelihood going to lose McDougle and go with Butler or Rogers at right tackle. Going with an inexperienced guard as well could be rough.

I also find it interesting how the Lions were pretty much universally basehd for giving Damien Woody such a big contract last year. Every one mocked them claiming "you don't pay guards that kind of money." The contracts being thrown around to the top guards this year are pretty similar. It's looking like the Lions didn't get such a bad deal as Woody is pretty good, relatively healthy, and young.

korme
03-05-2005, 01:22 PM
Lonnie Baxter.
Lonny Baxter.

Pyser
03-05-2005, 01:35 PM
The Giants remain interested in receiver Plaxico Burress, but nothing is imminent with him. Reports have circulated that the Giants made a preliminary offer to Burress that averaged less than $4 million per season with a bonus of less than $5 million. Burress is seeking much more.

Joe
03-05-2005, 01:38 PM
Lonny Baxter.


Lawrence Baxter?

SunDancer
03-05-2005, 01:45 PM
Okay, $10.5 ain't that bad. It would have been horrible had it been $15.



Actually they added Mike Gandy, an oft injured guard. Wayne Gandy still plays for the Saints.


The Cardinals signed OT Oliver Ross (Pittsburgh) for 5 years $17.5 million.

Thnaks for the correction. The Bills are looking to play him at tackle. Thoughts on him?

bhlloy
03-05-2005, 02:00 PM
A lot of O-Linemen getting silly money... media are jumping all over the 49ers for spending that much on Jennings and McKenzie and Rivera's deals aren't much better.

Most years a couple of horrible, horrible moves.

But.. who else are you going to go after? Barron or Brown in the draft will start right away with a chance to be good/great. There are gonna be a lot of low round guys starting on NFL lines this season. However, looking at how well Olivea and Hardwick plugged into the Chargers line this year, maybe that's not a bad thing. Finding an interior lineman in the mid/late rounds is going to be huge.

On the whole, the franchise tag has killed FA this year. A lot of agents have got to be very happy because a lot of marginal players are getting star money. Jennings, McKenzie and Anthony Henry must be laughing all the way to the bank.

jbmagic
03-05-2005, 02:51 PM
march 5, 2005

Redskins wide receiver Laveranues Coles will return to the Jets, the team with which he started his NFL career. The Redskins will receive Santana Moss, a former first-round draft pick.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2005788

korme
03-05-2005, 03:08 PM
Lawrence Baxter?
Lawrence Taylor.

sovereignstar
03-05-2005, 03:11 PM
Lawrence Taylor.

Quit post whoring.

TazFTW
03-05-2005, 03:44 PM
Thnaks for the correction. The Bills are looking to play him at tackle. Thoughts on him?
Don't know much about him. He started off last season playing in Carolina, got injured, got released. The Bears pick him up, he got injured, got released. So I guess teams see something in him, it's just that he needs to stay on the field.

TazFTW
03-05-2005, 03:54 PM
Vonnie Holliday has signed a 2 year deal with the Dolphins.

tanglewood
03-05-2005, 04:09 PM
Quit post whoring.

Leroy Hoard?

TazFTW
03-05-2005, 05:34 PM
From KFFL,


Jay Glazer (http://www.kffl.com/link/14), of FoxSports.com, reports the Cleveland Browns (http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl) and Seattle Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) have agreed in principle on a deal that will send Seahawks (http://www.kffl.com/team/33/nfl) QB Trent Dilfer (http://www.kffl.com/player/1712/nfl) to the Browns (http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl) in exchange for what is believed to be a fourth- or fifth-round pick in the 2005 NFL Draft (http://www.kffl.com/link/159). It is also believed the Browns (http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl) will attempt to re-work Dilfer's current contract.

Swaggs
03-05-2005, 05:51 PM
At the risk of jinxing myself, I love having the Browns and Bengals in our division. :)

cthomer5000
03-05-2005, 05:59 PM
I'm happy that Dilfer appears to be getting a starting job again. I'll love it when he beats the Ravens.

Ragone
03-05-2005, 07:49 PM
hah Good luck with Vonnie"taking a"Holliday Miami :)

B & B
03-06-2005, 10:54 AM
Dave, its against FOFC code to have Jim Rome in your signature.

Sincerely,
Mgmt.

TazFTW
03-06-2005, 03:54 PM
Saints sign T Jermane Mayberry (Eagles) to a 4 year deal.

Falcons sign K Todd Peterson to a 1 year deal and will resign Allen Rossum.

Jason Whitlock is reporting that Kendrell Bell failed his physical with the Giants last week.


Mel Kiper has his latest Mock draft up.

11. Dallas Cowboys: Shawne Merriman (jr.), DE/OLB, Maryland
A workout warrior with incredible physical skills, Merriman would be an ideal end/linebacker combo in a 3-4 scheme. He fits the mold of Patriots linebacker Willie McGinest, who was the first draft pick of Cowboys coach Bill Parcells when Parcells began his tenure in New England.


20. Dallas Cowboys (from BUF): Roddy White, WR, UAB
Averaged 20 yards per catch during his senior season and was very good at both the Senior Bowl and the combine. The acquisition of quarterback Drew Bledsoe means the Cowboys will have to find him some help in the passing game.

Not too sure about Roddy White but I did see him play against Hawaii and he was catching everything thrown his way.

Eaglesfan27
03-06-2005, 03:57 PM
As an Eagles fan, I'm sad to see Jermaine go. However, since the Saints are my adopted team and second favorite team, I'm glad to see him come here.

Cuckoo
03-06-2005, 04:14 PM
Not too sure about Roddy White but I did see him play against Hawaii and he was catching everything thrown his way.

Agreed. He's a good player, but I don't think the Cowboys will take him. If they take a WR, which they may very well do, I think it'll either be that speedster Williamson or Mark Clayton.

stevew
03-06-2005, 04:35 PM
[QUOTE=TazFTW]


Jason Whitlock is reporting that Kendrell Bell failed his physical with the Giants last week.


Mel Kiper has his latest Mock draft up.

[QUOTE]

I was hoping that Bell would at least get a half decent deal from someone so the steelers could get a compensatory pick for him.


Also, it would be great if you could post all of Kipers mock for those without insider :)

ISiddiqui
03-06-2005, 05:06 PM
I'm happy that Dilfer appears to be getting a starting job again. I'll love it when he beats the Ravens.
Yep... that'll amuse me to no end :D.

TazFTW
03-06-2005, 06:41 PM
Also, it would be great if you could post all of Kipers mock for those without insider :)
Okey-dokey.

1. San Francisco 49ers: Alex Smith (jr.), QB, Utah
A smart player who will pick up an NFL system quickly, Smith has good size, is mobile enough to hurt teams with his running ability and is also an efficient passer who can make all the necessary throws. The Niners likely won't get a good enough deal to move down because there is not a particular player creating a buzz as the surefire No. 1 prospect, but getting Smith would be a good start toward revamping a struggling offense.


2. Miami Dolphins: Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn
Brown is the top running back available after his outstanding combine workout. He showed impressive speed for a 230-pounder, he can catch the ball out of the backfield and also has excellent instincts and quickness, something new Dolphins coach Nick Saban knows all about having coached against Brown in the SEC while at LSU.


3. Cleveland Browns: Aaron Rodgers (jr.), QB, California
Rodgers is a smart, accurate passer with a quick release. His arm strength is adequate and he put height questions to rest at the combine. Rodgers is a better prospect at this point in his career than former Cal QB Kyle Boller, now the starter for the Baltimore Ravens.


4. Chicago Bears: Cedric Benson, RB, Texas
The Bears addressed their need for a big-time wideout with the free agent signing of Muhsin Muhammad and Benson would give quarterback Rex Grossman two topflight weapons to help out on offense. Benson is a tough, productive runner who can go the distance and always showed up in his team's biggest games.


5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Carnell Williams, RB, Auburn
A creative, deceptive runner with tremendous natural skills. Williams can get tough yards inside despite lacking ideal size, a point illustrated by his 29 rushing TDs over the last two years, and Tampa coach Jon Gruden is very familiar with him after coaching Williams in the Senior Bowl.


6. Tennessee Titans: Adam Jones (jr.), CB, West Virginia
A good cover man who will also contribute as a kick returner, Jones has very good closing speed and is a willing tackler in run support. That may be his most important quality with the NFL hurting pass defenses by focusing on downfield infractions by defensive backs. Jones also fills a major need after hits in free agency.


7. Minnesota Vikings (from OAK): Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan
Edwards' size, strength, speed and overall athleticism would go a long way toward filling the void left by the trade of Randy Moss, which is how the Vikings acquired the selection in the first place. Minnesota also has needs on defense but can address them later in the first round.


8. Arizona Cardinals: Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas
The best pure linebacker in the draft, Johnson has sideline-to-sideline speed and is always around the ball. His consistency would be welcome on a defense looking for playmakers.


9. Washington Redskins: Mike Williams (jr.), WR, USC
Williams has the size and strength to dominate corners with his 6-foot-5, 230-pound frame. He must answer questions about his speed, but beyond that his hands, body control and natural receiving skills make him a very attractive package for a team that needs to help quarterback Patrick Ramsey.


10. Detroit Lions: Dan Cody, DE, Oklahoma
The Lions need their front seven to get more pressure on the quarterback and Cody would help with his fiery attitude and relentless motor. He stepped up in big games and was one of the most consistent performers on a defense full of stars.


11. Dallas Cowboys: Shawne Merriman (jr.), DE/OLB, Maryland
A workout warrior with incredible physical skills, Merriman would be an ideal end/linebacker combo in a 3-4 scheme. He fits the mold of Patriots linebacker Willie McGinest, who was the first draft pick of Cowboys coach Bill Parcells when Parcells began his tenure in New England.


12. San Diego Chargers: Marcus Spears, DE, LSU
The Chargers need more playmakers on the front seven and Spears would be a good option for providing pressure along the defensive front. He boosted his stock immensely with a great week of work at the Senior Bowl.


13. Houston Texans: Alex Barron, OT, Florida State
Texans quarterback David Carr is improving but needs more protection, making the versatile Barron an ideal fit. He is very strong in the lower body and has quick feet in pass protection.


14. Carolina Panthers: Troy Williamson (jr.), WR, South Carolina
Williamson showed great speed at the combine and would be a nice option for a team that lost Muhsin Muhammad in free agency. Williamson did not play in a passing offense in college but has the speed all teams are looking for.


15. Kansas City Chiefs: Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn
The Chiefs likely will dedicate most of their draft to defense, and Rogers is a good place to start. He was Auburn's best defensive player last season, Rogers can support the run or excel in pass coverage and has plenty of experience against top-shelf collegiate competition.


16. New Orleans Saints: Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma
Brown is equally adept in pass and run blocking, using his quick feet and long arms to move defensive linemen away from the action.


17. Cincinnati Bengals: Travis Johnson, DT, Florida State
Johnson has the size and strength to be a force up front. He raised his stock throughout the 2004 season and would give the Bengals some beef along the defensive front.


18. Minnesota Vikings: Fabian Washington (jr.), CB, Nebraska
Washington was the talk of the combine after running the 40 in 4.28 seconds, and his speed and athleticism are just what the Vikings need in a secondary that struggled against top wideouts and quarterbacks last season.


19. St. Louis Rams: David Pollack, DE, Georgia
Pollack plays with tremendous intensity and his motor does not stop. He makes up for a lack of size with good initial quickness and great closing speed, but his 40 time at the combine was a bit disappointing and he will have to show more speed during his individual workout.


20. Dallas Cowboys (from BUF): Roddy White, WR, UAB
Averaged 20 yards per catch during his senior season and was very good at both the Senior Bowl and the combine. The acquisition of quarterback Drew Bledsoe means the Cowboys will have to find him some help in the passing game.


21. Jacksonville Jaguars: Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami
The Jags are thin in the secondary and need a player with Rolle's speed and toughness, a player who can be solid in coverage and also a force in run support.


22. Baltimore Ravens: Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin
James is an outstanding pass rusher who also plays the run very well thanks to his strength and quickness. He will have to answer a bit of a speed question after a disappointing 40 at the combine, and there are also durability concerns since he missed all of 2003 and part of 2004 with various injuries.


23. Seattle Seahawks: Shaun Cody, DE/DT, USC
Cody would be a nice addition to a line that already includes Pro Bowl player Chad Brown. Cody has the size and versatility to play end or tackle and was a major force for the nation's leading rush defense.


24. Green Bay Packers: Thomas Davis (jr.), S/OLB, Georgia
Davis played safety in college but has the size and speed to move to outside linebacker at the pro level. He is a punishing tackler who is always around the ball and would form a nice outside tandem with Nick Barnett.


25. Denver Broncos: Demarcus Ware, DE/OLB, Troy
Ware would fit perfectly in Denver's new 3-4 scheme with his ability to either play on his feet or put his hand on the ground in a three-point stance. He is not physically imposing but has shown the necessary speed and burst.


26. New York Jets: Marlin Jackson, CB, Michigan
His combine performance showed Jackson has the speed to be a true corner and not a safety/corner combo like he was in college.


27. Atlanta Falcons: Brodney Pool (jr.), S, Oklahoma
Another OU standout, Pool has tremendous instincts and is always in the middle of the action. He led the Sooners in tackles last season, showing his willingness to mix things up in run support, and he is adequate in pass coverage.


28. San Diego Chargers: Mark Clayton, WR, Oklahoma
Clayton has speed, quickness and elusiveness that make him dangerous after the catch. He would round out a receiving corps bolstered by the addition of WR Keenan McCardell and the emergence of TE Antonio Gates.


29. Indianapolis Colts: Channing Crowder (3rd so.), MLB, Florida
An impressive physical specimen who adjusted immediately to top-level collegiate competition, Crowder has ideal size and athletic skills for a man in the middle.


30. Pittsburgh Steelers: Heath Miller (jr.), TE, Virginia
There is some question whether Miller will be able to work out before the draft due to a pelvic injury, but he still remains the best tight end prospect and would give Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger a nice option in the middle of the field.


31. Philadelphia Eagles: Jerome Mathis, WR, Hampton
Played at the Division I-AA level in college but showed at the Gridiron Classic and the combine he belongs with the big boys. He dominated Hampton's playoff game this season and was the best player on the field at the Gridiron thanks to his overall athleticism.


32. New England Patriots: Barrett Ruud, LB, Nebraska
His speed and athletic ability made him Nebraska's all-time leading tackler and Ruud would help the Patriots get younger at a key position, a big key with the health of Teddy Bruschi in question.

TazFTW
03-07-2005, 01:50 PM
The Dolphins have signed DE Kevin Carter to a 5 year $30 million deal.

Giants sign K Jay Feely.

Rudy Johnson has signed his franchise tender.

The Saints sign S Dwight Smith to a 5 year $15 million deal with a $3.5 mil signing bonus.

Pyser
03-07-2005, 02:04 PM
Giants sign K Jay Feely.

hopefully his kickoffs go past the 15...

Pyser
03-07-2005, 03:28 PM
rolle signs with baltimore. for 6 years.

bigmike75
03-07-2005, 03:37 PM
I considered myself an avid Cowboys fan until I realized this... I was completely under the impression that we had signed Laroi Glover to a big contract a couple years ago as one of the best DT's in the league and that he has been playing and playing well for us. Clearly if we signed Ferguson to play as our NT in a 3-4 Glover must not be here anymore, as I have never heard his name mentioned once. Can a fellow Boys fan help me out?? WTF happened to Laroi Glover???

mhass
03-07-2005, 03:37 PM
The Bears sign OT Fred Miller to a 5 year deal.Whew. LT was easily the worst position on that team last year. Except when Jonathan Quinn was playing.

edit: Stupid time stamp bug.

TazFTW
03-07-2005, 03:38 PM
The Bears sign OT Fred Miller to a 5 year deal $22.5 million deal with a $6 mil signing bonus.

Pittsburgh resigns Jeff Reed to a 5 year $7.5 million deal.

Dolphins release David Boston.

Cardinals resign Troy Hambrick to a 2 year deal.

TazFTW
03-07-2005, 03:38 PM
I considered myself an avid Cowboys fan until I realized this... I was completely under the impression that we had signed Laroi Glover to a big contract a couple years ago as one of the best DT's in the league and that he has been playing and playing well for us. Clearly if we signed Ferguson to play as our NT in a 3-4 Glover must not be here anymore, as I have never heard his name mentioned once. Can a fellow Boys fan help me out?? WTF happened to Laroi Glover???
Glover is being moved to DE in the 3-4.

Thomkal
03-07-2005, 03:53 PM
Cards resign Hambrick? That can't be a good sign for the Henry trade.

B & B
03-07-2005, 03:59 PM
pure backup for injury purposes. why pay henry if youre not gonna use him?

TazFTW
03-07-2005, 04:03 PM
rolle signs with baltimore. for 6 years.
Details are 6 years, $30.5 million with an $11 mil signing bonus.

TazFTW
03-07-2005, 04:10 PM
dola


The Lions signs TE Marcus Pollard to a 3 year deal.

Ksyrup
03-07-2005, 04:16 PM
dola


The Lions signs TE Marcus Pollard to a 3 year deal.
Was he Marlon or Tito?

Honolulu_Blue
03-07-2005, 04:57 PM
dola


The Lions signs TE Marcus Pollard to a 3 year deal.
Rumour out of Detroit also has the Lions signing safety Kennoy Kennedy to either a 3 or 5 year deal at around $14 million.

JAG
03-07-2005, 05:15 PM
I considered myself an avid Cowboys fan until I realized this... I was completely under the impression that we had signed Laroi Glover to a big contract a couple years ago as one of the best DT's in the league and that he has been playing and playing well for us. Clearly if we signed Ferguson to play as our NT in a 3-4 Glover must not be here anymore, as I have never heard his name mentioned once. Can a fellow Boys fan help me out?? WTF happened to Laroi Glover???

The Cowboys are likely going to play some hybrid system of 4-3 and 3-4 this year because they don't have the personnel to play a full-time 3-4 (at least for now). In the 4-3, Glover and Ferguson will complement each other nicely as Ferguson will take up two blockers leaving Glover one-on-one inside. In the 3-4...in my opinion, it's not well-suited for Glover, but I hear he'll have an easier time transitioning to end in that scheme than Ellis would.

Cuckoo
03-07-2005, 05:27 PM
The Cowboys are likely going to play some hybrid system of 4-3 and 3-4 this year because they don't have the personnel to play a full-time 3-4 (at least for now). In the 4-3, Glover and Ferguson will complement each other nicely as Ferguson will take up two blockers leaving Glover one-on-one inside. In the 3-4...in my opinion, it's not well-suited for Glover, but I hear he'll have an easier time transitioning to end in that scheme than Ellis would.

This was my understanding as well. I still don't like the idea, but it looks like they're dead set on trying it.

DeToxRox
03-07-2005, 05:41 PM
Kanoy Kennedy signs with Detroit

5 years at 14 mil with a 4.5 mil bonus.

Something along those lines

judicial clerk
03-07-2005, 06:03 PM
Whew. LT was easily the worst position on that team last year. Except when Jonathan Quinn was playing.


When I read this my first thought was, how does Jonathan Quinn improve the play of the left tackle?

sovereignstar
03-07-2005, 06:09 PM
SovFFFFFFFFL has just reported that the Vikings have indeed come to terms with right tackle Thin Air. The deal is reportedly for 35 million dollars over 2 years. With some smartass cap management, the Vikings were able to make it so there is a 30 million dollar cap hit in 2005.

Coffee Warlord
03-07-2005, 06:13 PM
When I read this my first thought was, how does Jonathan Quinn improve the play of the left tackle?

The better question is. How would Jonathan Quinn be any WORSE at left tackle?

stevew
03-07-2005, 06:32 PM
When you sign the franchise tender, it means you have to show up at camp, right? Guess Rudi Johnson is all talk.

MikeVic
03-07-2005, 06:34 PM
I guess I haven't been following the Steelers' free agency at all. I didn't know that Bell was even a free agent. :( So they're not resigning him and Burress? Is there any chance of them going after anyone in free agency at all, or are they too close to the cap?

stevew
03-07-2005, 06:35 PM
Also, the steelers re-signed impact CB Willie Williams.

MikeVic
03-07-2005, 06:38 PM
Also, the steelers re-signed impact CB Willie Williams.

Since I couldn't catch all their games, and with the games I saw.. he seemed to be better than Dewayne. So is this sarcasm? Or is he actually serviceable?

stevew
03-07-2005, 06:39 PM
I guess I haven't been following the Steelers' free agency at all. I didn't know that Bell was even a free agent. :( So they're not resigning him and Burress? Is there any chance of them going after anyone in free agency at all, or are they too close to the cap?


Too close to cap to bring back Bell, besides, he hasnt been that great since his rookie year. They paid Foote a decent amount of money to be the starter next year. Whenever a guy flunks a physical, its never a good sign. It looks like they are trying to bring in some WR prospects, Niners WR Cedric Wilson being the first.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/nfl/steelers/rumors.html has a bunch of newspaper articles about the steelers, as well as other teams.

I would guess Burress is gonna sign with the Giants, we cant afford to keep him, not at the money he wants. But Burress hasn't been in much demand around the league, it would be nice(however unrealistic) to bring him back.

MikeVic
03-07-2005, 06:40 PM
Yeah, I saw the Foote signing. He seemed to do well last year.

stevew
03-07-2005, 06:44 PM
Since I couldn't catch all their games, and with the games I saw.. he seemed to be better than Dewayne. So is this sarcasm? Or is he actually serviceable?


Oh, its a joke. I forgot the smiley. The only impact he had was with the ground in the AFC championship game when the Pats ran that WR screen right past him to score.

MikeVic
03-07-2005, 06:46 PM
Oh, its a joke. I forgot the smiley. The only impact he had was with the ground in the AFC championship game when the Pats ran that WR screen right past him to score.

Aha.. is that the play where he slipped as he was getting ready to move forward?

TazFTW
03-07-2005, 07:39 PM
Cardinals sign DE Chike Okeafor to a 5 year deal $25 million deal.

The backup for Eli Manning is now Jim Miller who signed a 1 year deal with the Giants.

Arles
03-07-2005, 08:37 PM
Wow, big signing for Arizona. Anyone know if the Cards are close to signing LB Hartwell?

TazFTW
03-07-2005, 09:18 PM
Last I heard Hartwell was going to visit Seattle, which probably means the Cardinals are not close or he wants them to up their offer.

Travis
03-08-2005, 12:08 AM
Cardinals sign DE Chike Okeafor to a 5 year deal $25 million deal.

The backup for Eli Manning is now Jim Miller who signed a 1 year deal with the Giants.

Hmmmmmmm guess that locks up a D-line pick in the 1st round for the Seahawks, oh wait, we need a CB to replace Lucas, and OH YEAH we still need LB's.

Man, losing one of those two was bad, but expected, losing both is brutal. Hope Wistrom manages to stay healthy for a full season now :|

Pyser
03-08-2005, 01:32 AM
the ny post is reporting Burress never showed up on Monday for his team visit. his agent called late and said plexico had the flu. but seriously, only 2 teams showed interest. the viking dropped out of the running, leaving only the giants. and you dont bother to show? id be surprised if he ended up in ny now.

BigJohn&TheLions
03-08-2005, 01:34 AM
I hope Pollard has good health insurance...

I had the wierdest moment this morning (Monday.) I was in between snooze alarms and in my half drifting in and out of sleep I combined two sports stories. I actually woke up thinking "Why in the hell would Arizona sign Burress with the receivers they already have?"

mckerney
03-08-2005, 01:40 AM
Fred Jones and Fred Smoot are scheduled to visit Minnesota tomorrow, and Donovin Darius contacted the Star Tribune to say he wanted to be traded to the Vikings, though did the same with the Miami Herald saying he wants to go to the Dolphins.

stevew
03-08-2005, 04:28 AM
the ny post is reporting Burress never showed up on Monday for his team visit. his agent called late and said plexico had the flu. but seriously, only 2 teams showed interest. the viking dropped out of the running, leaving only the giants. and you dont bother to show? id be surprised if he ended up in ny now.

I wonder if the Steelers have even made him an offer at all. I know we are up against the cap, but I'm willing to bet they could make it happen if they wanted to, probably all they'd need to do is "Cap out" a few guys. I'd like to have him back, if only for a year or 2 more, he seemed to be clicking with Ben last year when he was healthy. With his questionable personality i can't see him getting the huge bonus offer he may want.

flere-imsaho
03-08-2005, 08:39 AM
Maybe Burress re-signs with Pittsburgh?

Anyway, the Bears signed RT Fred Miller from Tennessee (is there anyone left in Tennessee, by the way?) and will move John Tait to LT. I'm not sure about this, but who knows, it could work. Adds more speculation to the draft, though.

WSUCougar
03-08-2005, 09:17 AM
That seems a little steep for Okeafor.

The Plaxico situation is weird, but I saw that the Vikings were interested in Rod Gardner.

JasonC23
03-08-2005, 09:29 AM
Maybe Burress re-signs with Pittsburgh?

Anyway, the Bears signed RT Fred Miller from Tennessee (is there anyone left in Tennessee, by the way?) and will move John Tait to LT. I'm not sure about this, but who knows, it could work. Adds more speculation to the draft, though.
I like the signing of Fred Miller, but if they're weren't willing to move Tait to LT last year when the LT was the great Qasim Mitchell, why is it a good idea this year? Watch out, Rex...

Does this mean the Bears are taking RB for sure with the #4 pick? That's what all the talking heads seem to think...

General Mike
03-08-2005, 09:31 AM
Giants need Plaxico :(

moriarty
03-08-2005, 09:43 AM
Giants need Plaxico :(

Plaxico needs the Giants (or the Giants $$ anyways).

And speaking of the Pollard deal, if everyone on the Lions stays healthy and Joey can't get them the ball (w/ two potentially stud wideouts and a pass catching TE) ... then it's definitely time to say bye bye to Joey.

flere-imsaho
03-08-2005, 09:47 AM
Does this mean the Bears are taking RB for sure with the #4 pick? That's what all the talking heads seem to think...

I hope not. Thomas Jones is perfectly fine. Given that he was running against stacked fronts (since the Bears couldn't pass) last year, he did pretty well. And Thomas showed flashes and continues to be a fine "change-of-pace" back to Jones.

At this point I'd say draft a WR to complement Muhammad, or trade down.

General Mike
03-08-2005, 09:49 AM
Is Freddy Mitchell still with the Eagles or was he released? I can't imagine why he hasn't cracked the bank yet if he was released.

*insert laughing smile*

Cap Ologist
03-08-2005, 09:50 AM
Is Freddy Mitchell still with the Eagles or was he released? I can't imagine why he hasn't cracked the bank yet if he was released.

mhass
03-08-2005, 09:55 AM
And Thomas showed flashes and continues to be a fine "change-of-pace" back to Jones.

I don't think they want A. Thomas back. I've heard he got a cooler reception on the market than he expected, but even at reduced prices, the Bears want one of the Auburn backs. But I agree, Jones and Thomas are solid, proven backs that are just fine with me. With Miller, they need to address Rex Tucker's spot (Reuben Brown too for that matter) and the secondary. I'm not a fan of Mike Green, Jerry Azumah or RW McQuarters. Tillman and Brown are the only keepers back there.

dawgfan
03-08-2005, 11:54 AM
That seems a little steep for Okeafor.

I agree, but according to the Seattle PI the Seahawks were offering similar money.

Latest talk has CB Andre Dyson in town for a visit and DE Bryce Fisher to arrive today as potential replacements for Ken Lucas and Chike Okeafor. Also, Jeff Garcia is holding off signing with Denver until he has a chance to talk to Mike Holmgren about the Seattle situation, and RB Anthony Thomas and FB Fred McCrary are set to visit the Seahawks later this week.

TazFTW
03-08-2005, 01:01 PM
Browns sign OG Cosey Coleman to a 2 year deal.

mhass
03-08-2005, 01:06 PM
Browns sign OG Cosey Coleman to a 2 year deal.
Would have liked the Bears to pick him up and dump Tucker. Ah well.

TazFTW
03-08-2005, 01:35 PM
From what I've read, the Steelers weren't interested in bringing Plexico back.

Sharpieman
03-08-2005, 01:36 PM
Pittsburgh signs Niners WR Cedric Wilson
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2007926

Sharpieman
03-08-2005, 01:37 PM
More importantly I guess? Plaxico won't be going back to the Steelers because of this move.

Swaggs
03-08-2005, 01:41 PM
Any Niners fans have an opinion on Cedric Wilson?

I don't believe I have ever heard of him before this signing and his size/speed make it sound like he is a Randle El clone--more quick and agile than downfield speedy. I was kind of hoping the Steelers could find some contrasting talent in FA and the draft, along the lines of one tall/possession type and one deep threat to go with Hines Ward and Randle El.

Pyser
03-08-2005, 01:57 PM
kendrell bell to kc for 7 years.