Just saw the Star Wars Trailer

[Crapshoot]

Wow... pretty damn impresive looking. Fit the rumors as it were. Anyone else catch it ?

[sovereignstar]

Anyone else catch the OC ?

Fixed.

[Crapshoot]

Fixed.

Roffle - watched the end of that, but I knew they were going to be showing it...

[sovereignstar]

Anyone else catch the OC ?

yes

[gottimd]

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=36361

See post 49, you didn't have to watch the OC.

[Draft Dodger]

heading home shortly to catch it (the trailer, not the crappy kid show) thanks to Tivo.

[sovereignstar]

heading home shortly to catch it (the trailer, not the crappy kid show) thanks to Tivo.

oh yeah.. well you're the crappy one!!

[Celeval]

Torrent: hxxp://mininova.org/get/16482/Star%20Wars%20Episode%203%20-%20Revenge%20of%20the%20Sith%20Trailer%20with%20OC%20Intro%20%7BC_P%7D.avi.torrent

[Draft Dodger]

so, I was a little underwhelmed by that. maybe it's just my sourness towards what has happened to the franchise in general.

the lava duel looks GREAT, but it still looks like there's too much of that terrible political "intrigue" that sunk the last 2.

[Havok]

you talking about the teaser trailer??? or is the this a new one??? and if so where can i see it :)

[Tigercat]

I think the trailer is as good as it can be considering what the current movie has to be based on the first two movies.

If one was soured by major things from the first two movies there is little this movie can do to erase that. What this movie needs to do is bridge the story, environments, and characters between the two trilogies while being as entertaining in its own right as possible. Judging from the trailer, it very well could do a very good job at all that. We shall have to wait and see though.

[PilotMan]

Man, the movie series is good. All of 'em. You gotta think like the age group that it is designed for. Now as a 29 year old man, I want LOTR style for my Star Wars, because when I was 5 thats what it was for me then. But the movie is for little boys, not 29 yr old men. As bad as I want it to be it just won't be. This movie looks dark and it should be. I think that it will be very Empire Strikes Backish, and I hope it makes a nice little segue for Episode 4. As it is, I have no expectations. I want to be entertained, and to let the story consume me. And to see the beautiful Natalie Portman, but thats another story. This is someone else's story, not the story that I think it should be. As I say all day, "Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride."

[Draft Dodger]

you talking about the teaser trailer??? or is the this a new one??? and if so where can i see it :)

well, there's TWO links in this thread that might point you in the right direction

[Havok]

well, there's TWO links in this thread that might point you in the right direction


i must have missed gottimd's reply.... Celeval's link didn't work for me.

[Havok]

dola

that was 1 badass trailer...... god i hope this one makes up for the last 2.

[kingfc22]

dola

that was 1 badass trailer...... god i hope this one makes up for the last 2.
Just got home and turned on my Tivo. I must concur with that statement.

[ISiddiqui]

Man, the movie series is good. All of 'em. You gotta think like the age group that it is designed for. Now as a 29 year old man, I want LOTR style for my Star Wars, because when I was 5 thats what it was for me then. But the movie is for little boys, not 29 yr old men. As bad as I want it to be it just won't be. This movie looks dark and it should be. I think that it will be very Empire Strikes Backish, and I hope it makes a nice little segue for Episode 4. As it is, I have no expectations. I want to be entertained, and to let the story consume me. And to see the beautiful Natalie Portman, but thats another story. This is someone else's story, not the story that I think it should be. As I say all day, "Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride."
You are a wise man, and I concur. People seemingly want the new trilogy to be like LOTR. The original trilogy wasn't like LOTR, so I don't see why the hightened expectations. Probably because of nostaglia's sake. But I liked all the movies, except TPM, but I realized that was going to be all exposition.

Ep III will kick some ass!

[mckerney]

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=36361

See post 49, though you didn't get to watch The OC.

Fixed.

[TazFTW]

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=36361

See post 49, you didn't have to watch the OC.
The trailer that came after the OC is different than the one from the theater.

[Suicane75]

To disagree with a few people in this thread, the first movie sucked ass, I don't care who it was made for. It sucked so much ass that I refused to watch the 2nd one in the theatre. And the idea that it was made for little kids is bulldunk, it was made for the fans of the first 3 first and foremost. If it was made for little kids they would have had huge opening showings at 5pm EST and not Midnight.

To me, Episode One was such a letdown that I had no interest in seeing the 2nd one at all, I finaly caught it about 18 months later on HBO and it was fine.

I love the trailer for EP 3, so much so that I may go and see it in the theatre, hell, I may even get excited about it, but i'm still wary.

To me it's like finding out that the girl you love cheated on you, you still love her and want her so bad, but it can never be like it was.

[Draft Dodger]

To disagree with a few people in this thread, the first movie sucked ass, I don't care who it was made for. It sucked so much ass that I refused to watch the 2nd one in the theatre. And the idea that it was made for little kids is bulldunk, it was made for the fans of the first 3 first and foremost. If it was made for little kids they would have had huge opening showings at 5pm EST and not Midnight.

To me, Episode One was such a letdown that I had no interest in seeing the 2nd one at all, I finaly caught it about 18 months later on HBO and it was fine.

I love the trailer for EP 3, so much so that I may go and see it in the theatre, hell, I may even get excited about it, but i'm still wary.

To me it's like finding out that the girl you love cheated on you, you still love her and want her so bad, but it can never be like it was.

that mostly sums it up for me too. the "kids" argument is silly (more so now that EP3 is going to be PG-13). I beg to differ about Clones...I think it is far, far worse than Menace, but at least we agree that Lucas cheated on us.

[Honolulu_Blue]

You are a wise man, and I concur. People seemingly want the new trilogy to be like LOTR. The original trilogy wasn't like LOTR, so I don't see why the hightened expectations. Probably because of nostaglia's sake. But I liked all the movies, except TPM, but I realized that was going to be all exposition.

Ep III will kick some ass!
As the famous quote goes... Who is more the fool? The fool or the fool who follows him?

You are both out of your minds. Eps 1 & 2 are horrible movies. Just because movies are made for kids does not necessarily mean they have to suck. I will say no more on this, because the Squiddimaster and I have been 'round and 'round on this topic. All I can say is that he was wrong then. He's wrong now. ;)

I just hope this third movie doesn't suck. We'll see in a few months.

[gottimd]

i must have missed gottimd's reply.... Celeval's link didn't work for me.

You need Bittornado (http://www.bittornado.com/download.html) for Celevals link to work. Download what he linked, then use Bittornado to open it.

[gottimd]

How so? I've seen them both and I don't see any differences.

I guess you see one on your TV, and the other you see on a big screen? Then yes, they are different. That is unless you live in a Movie Theater?

[spleen1015]

The trailer that came after the OC is different than the one from the theater.

How so? I've seen them both and I don't see any differences.

[Draft Dodger]

As the famous quote goes... Who is more the fool? The fool or the fool who follows him?

You are both out of your minds. Eps 1 & 2 are horrible movies. Just because movies are made for kids does not necessarily mean they have to suck. I will say no more on this, because the Squiddimaster and I have been 'round and 'round on this topic. All I can say is that he was wrong then. He's wrong now. ;)

I just hope this third movie doesn't suck. We'll see in a few months.

see, not ALL Red Wing fans are idiots!

[Calis]

You know, I seem to remember the trailers for Episode I and II looking pretty badass.

So I can't get excited about a good trailer.

[gottimd]

Better link and version of the trailer on Rapidshare (http://rapidshare.de/files/830600/trailer.mpeg.html)

Scroll to the bottom, and press the "Free" button, then you have to wait in line for it to start downloading.

[spleen1015]

I have seen quite a few of the spoilers. This one is going to much, much better than the last 2.

[KWhit]

I like the looks of the trailer. Got me fired up again about this movie.

And I'm staying away from the spoilers.

[ISiddiqui]

You are both out of your minds. Eps 1 & 2 are horrible movies. Just because movies are made for kids does not necessarily mean they have to suck. I will say no more on this, because the Squiddimaster and I have been 'round and 'round on this topic. All I can say is that he was wrong then. He's wrong now. ;)
Naw, you were wrong then and you are wrong now. It seems people who decry Ep 1 and 2 seem to think the original trilogy was LOTR or Shakespeare or something. When you point out that the dialogue and acting were crap in the original trilogy as well, they go ballistic. Usually these would be the same people who think its a travesty that Star Wars did not win an Academy Award for Best Picture ;).

Ep 2 was just as good, if not better, than RotJ. TPM was probably the worst of them, but not horrible. Some 'Lucas is evil' people are guilty of waaaay too much hyperbole. They'll decray TPM as being 'unwatchable', but then turn around and watch and love some utter crap like "Super Troopers".

:p

[BrianD]

As the famous quote goes... Who's the more foolish...the fool or the fool who follows him?


Fixed it for you. I'm a bit of a Star Wars trivia snob. :)

[Celeval]

Naw, you were wrong then and you are wrong now. It seems people who decry Ep 1 and 2 seem to think the original trilogy was LOTR or Shakespeare or something. When you point out that the dialogue and acting were crap in the original trilogy as well, they go ballistic. Usually these would be the same people who think its a travesty that Star Wars did not win an Academy Award for Best Picture ;).
Sorry, any sci-fi flick that has an alien saying "Oooooh, that's gotta hurt!" or some such is generally crap. I know the limitations of the first three, but they told a story well, almost in spite of some of the acting and such.

Ep1 was poor because, well, it didn't fit in well with the established mythology (midichlorians?), and it was generally not terribly well done. The story really wasn't all that much. I don't think Ep2 was quite as bad as most, but I'm looking forward to Ep3. Staying away from spoilers as well.

[BrianD]

Sorry, any sci-fi flick that has an alien saying "Oooooh, that's gotta hurt!" or some such is generally crap. I know the limitations of the first three, but they told a story well, almost in spite of some of the acting and such.

Ep1 was poor because, well, it didn't fit in well with the established mythology (midichlorians?), and it was generally not terribly well done. The story really wasn't all that much. I don't think Ep2 was quite as bad as most, but I'm looking forward to Ep3. Staying away from spoilers as well.

I think I would agree with these assessments. The first three contained some bad acting, and were a bit on the cheesy side, but they did tell a good story and they had cutting edge (for the time) graphics. The other great thing was that the movies weren't silly. There was a bit of humor for comic relief, but it was subtle and often sarcastic. Ep1 and Ep2 contained a lot of silly humor which felt really out of place. It was the kind of humor you laugh at the first time and then grow to hate every time after that.

[Galaril]

I read that this "really " is it for the Star Wars franchise of movies. I remember many years ago like around Return of the Jedi Lucas sayin ghe had story lines for 9 episodes. Will there be any chance of a 7-9 episode chain? So, is this it for Star Wars? If it is then that is a sad way to go ?

[ISiddiqui]

I'm not really sure what 'silly' humor there was in Ep 2? I can see it in Ep 1. Then again, the basis for the story (aside from Qui-Gon) was an 8 year old child. AotC seemed much more in the spirit of the original three.

I also think the AotC story was pretty good. Now, the romance parts were pretty bad, but that's not what these movies are about; however, you had to have some of that to set up the kid-making.

[gottimd]

I read that this "really " is it for the Star Wars franchise of movies. I remember many years ago like around Return of the Jedi Lucas sayin ghe had story lines for 9 episodes. Will there be any chance of a 7-9 episode chain? So, is this it for Star Wars? If it is then that is a sad way to go ?

There are rumors about 7-9, but I believe Lucas said this is it for him. Probably 15 years down the line, when we are all playing Front Office Curling 8, there will be some director/producer who takes on the challenge, but its hard to imagine anyone doing remotely a good job.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'm not really sure what 'silly' humor there was in Ep 2?.
Go back and watch the patheticaly horrendous robot-factory scene. Just focus on C-3PO the entire time and all the scenes with him that follow. "Oh! I'm beside myself." It's retarded. He was never the strongest character in the original series, but compare that to his humorous scenes in Empire. Night and day, my friend. Night and day...

I am like Michael Corleone and Squiddi is the mafia... Every time I try to get out... THEY PULL ME BACK IN!

[KWhit]

I believe I read that Lucas never intended for there to be episodes 7-9. He claims that was just a rumor and that the series was always supposed to be 6 films long.

[BrianD]

I'm not really sure what 'silly' humor there was in Ep 2? I can see it in Ep 1. Then again, the basis for the story (aside from Qui-Gon) was an 8 year old child. AotC seemed much more in the spirit of the original three.

Every pun uttered by C3PO was silly. "This is why I hate flying" was silly. There wasn't as much silly humor as in Ep1, but there was still too much in Ep2. I was also not such a fan of all of the wink-and-nod jokes in the first two movies. These also were funny the first time, but get annoying on repeat viewings. Things like Obi-Wan telling Anakin that Anakin will be the death of him, or starting Ep 1 with the "I've got a bad feeling about this" quote, or Palpatine saying he was going to monitor Anakin's progress carefully. Yes, we all know how the story goes in episodes 4-6, the little sly "foreshadowing" jokes are not necessary.

I also think the AotC story was pretty good. Now, the romance parts were pretty bad, but that's not what these movies are about; however, you had to have some of that to set up the kid-making.

The romance parts felt odd in a Star Wars movie, and the romance music was a bit more grand than it needed to be, but it was necessary. I can let that part go.

[BrianD]

I believe I read that Lucas never intended for there to be episodes 7-9. He claims that was just a rumor and that the series was always supposed to be 6 films long.

Lucas is a great revisionist. He has changed what was always intended a number of times. Heck, it was reported that the contract that Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca) signed for Ep 3 contained an option for 3 more movies. This isn't to say that there will be more movies, but it sounds like options were being kept open.

[gottimd]

I believe I read that Lucas never intended for there to be episodes 7-9. He claims that was just a rumor and that the series was always supposed to be 6 films long.

There are books out there that chronicle the series following Episode 6. Something about Luke starting up another Academy, a bunch of new jedis, and I think the cloning process comes back into play with them cloning either Vader or Darth Sidious. Cheesy IMHO.

[Warhammer]

Naw, you were wrong then and you are wrong now. It seems people who decry Ep 1 and 2 seem to think the original trilogy was LOTR or Shakespeare or something. When you point out that the dialogue and acting were crap in the original trilogy as well, they go ballistic. Usually these would be the same people who think its a travesty that Star Wars did not win an Academy Award for Best Picture ;).

Ep 2 was just as good, if not better, than RotJ. TPM was probably the worst of them, but not horrible. Some 'Lucas is evil' people are guilty of waaaay too much hyperbole. They'll decray TPM as being 'unwatchable', but then turn around and watch and love some utter crap like "Super Troopers".

:p

Super Troopers is a GREAT movie (for what it is)! "The schnozberries taste like schnozberries!"

Anyway, back on topic, episodes 1-3 are much more ambitious than 4-6. Lucas needs to explain how everything got to the point it did. He needed to show Anakin as a kid to see what he was originally like, and then show his fall to the darkside. TPM becomes a MUCH better movie after you see AOTC, because many of the things people were saying, "WTF?" about are explained in AOTC. That said, AOTC is the only one of the bunch where I have to fast forward through some scenes. But, it does have some great visuals, and does lay out the plot for Anakin's fall.

The problem is that episodes 4-6 were straight forward. Episode 4 is all about blowing up the Death Star and Luke's initial steps towards becoming a Jedi. Episode 5 is about Luke training to become a Jedi and Vader and The Emperor taking an interest in him and Luke finding out Vader is his father. Episode 6 is about Luke redeeming his father.

Episodes 1-3 are about how Vader falls. So Episode 1 shows Anakin as a selfless child, and how he is found by the Jedi and begins his training. Episode 2 is about his training and the roots of his fall to the darkside. It also shows some of his potential. Episode 3 is about his final fall, how the Emperor gains control, the extermination of the Jedi, and the birth of the twins.

The problem is people had a big issue with Jar Jar, I did too, but once you get past that, TPM is a great movie. There is a ton of meat and exposition in there.

[KWhit]

Every pun uttered by C3PO was silly. "This is why I hate flying" was silly.
There was quite a bit of that crap in episodes 4-6, too, though, as I recall. I have never been a fan of 3PO.

[ISiddiqui]

Every pun uttered by C3PO was silly. "This is why I hate flying" was silly. There wasn't as much silly humor as in Ep1, but there was still too much in Ep2. I was also not such a fan of all of the wink-and-nod jokes in the first two movies. These also were funny the first time, but get annoying on repeat viewings. Things like Obi-Wan telling Anakin that Anakin will be the death of him, or starting Ep 1 with the "I've got a bad feeling about this" quote, or Palpatine saying he was going to monitor Anakin's progress carefully. Yes, we all know how the story goes in episodes 4-6, the little sly "foreshadowing" jokes are not necessary.
C3PO has ALWAYS made silly puns. That's his function in the movies. He's there for comedic relief. Why are his silly puns more tolerable in the original trilogy? I didn't mind the foreshadowing jokes, and actually found them amusing. It helps lighten the mood a bit, which is the what the jokes in the original trilogy did as well.

Oh, and for the records, I LIKED the factory scene in AotC. Good scene! And C3PO just did what he normally does. Act silly, be funny. He doesn't really have another function.

[Raiders Army]

I think I read or watched something that said that Lucas wanted to make these movies so that someone who never saw the original trilogy could watch the first 3, then the second 3, and it would make sense. In that aspect, I would say that the foreshadowing is a cool aspect of the first three movies.

[ISiddiqui]

The problem is people had a big issue with Jar Jar, I did too, but once you get past that, TPM is a great movie. There is a ton of meat and exposition in there.
I've heard that from others as well. Maybe I need to watch it again. I've held off on getting the originals on DVD because I'm expecting a boxed set after the 3rd one comes out, but maybe I'll have to get it from Netflix just to see it again.

[BrianD]

C3PO has ALWAYS made silly puns. That's his function in the movies. He's there for comedic relief. Why are his silly puns more tolerable in the original trilogy? I didn't mind the foreshadowing jokes, and actually found them amusing. It helps lighten the mood a bit, which is the what the jokes in the original trilogy did as well.

I have to disagree on the puns. I don't remember many, if any, in the original movies. He was there for comic relief, but it was still more subtle. He always seemed a bit too high on himself, and rather scared of everything, but he wasn't silly.

The foreshadowing jokes were amusing the first time through, but they make you (or at least me) groan after the first time.

Oh, and for the records, I LIKED the factory scene in AotC. Good scene! And C3PO just did what he normally does. Act silly, be funny. He doesn't really have another function.

I laughed a bunch the first time I saw the factory scene. Now I can't watch that scene anymore. The puns are terrible, and there are so many that it is painful. A few light scenes are good, but forced humor is not. This felt very forced.

[Swaggs]

I liked Episode 1 a lot. Liam Neeson is one of my favorite actors, so that may be a big factor. I thought he was pretty good and I thought Darth Maul was a pretty good villan. Add in a little Natalie Portman and the Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul lightsabre scene, and I thought it was pretty good.

I guess the biggest thing was that Jar Jar was annoying the first time I saw the movie, but after I saw it again, he kind of slid into the background and I thought of him more as entertainment for the kids (like the Ewoks worked on me when I was a kid).

[BrianD]

I think I read or watched something that said that Lucas wanted to make these movies so that someone who never saw the original trilogy could watch the first 3, then the second 3, and it would make sense. In that aspect, I would say that the foreshadowing is a cool aspect of the first three movies.

This is possible, and it would be hard to argue against. The foreshadowing seems very heavy-handed to me, but that is because I know what it is foreshadowing. It feels like it was included into the movie as a wink and nod to the fans of the original movies, but I can't say how it would feel to someone seeing all of the movies for the first time.

I have always been a proponent of reading/watching books/movies in release order and not chronological story order, but that is just my opinion. I know many others don't hold that opinion.

[KWhit]

The main problem with the new movies: No Han.

[Cuckoo]

The main problem with the new movies: No Han.


Ahh, the most accurate thing I've seen in this thread.
:)

[BrianD]

The main problem with the new movies: No Han.

Pretty much.

[BrianD]

Yes, but a dork with some pretty good points. :)

Edit: This would have been more funny had it actually shown up after the proper post.

[Warhammer]

I've heard that from others as well. Maybe I need to watch it again. I've held off on getting the originals on DVD because I'm expecting a boxed set after the 3rd one comes out, but maybe I'll have to get it from Netflix just to see it again.

Yeah, I didn't watch TPM for a long time after I first saw it. It was on TV after I saw AOTC, and figured nothing else is on might as well watch it. There is a lot to pick up in there.

In the OT, Yoda is always talking about the present, not the future. In TPM and AOTC, notice he is always worried about the future, there is a reason for that!

Notice how in the OT, everyone talks about feelings. They can feel people who are strong with the force, yet in TPM they have to measure Anakin's midichlorians to determine whether he is capable of being trained, there is a reason for that!

The whole, "I have a bad feeling about this," quote from Obi-Wan, there is a reason for that!

Basically, the Jedi have lost touch with the force. They try to manipulate it, and are not listening to the will of the Force. That is why they measure Anakin's midi count, that is why Yoda is concerned about the future, not the present.

The only Jedi who has it close to being right (aside from Qui-Gonn) is Obi-Wan, which is why he has the bad feeling. He knows something more sinister is afoot, but what it is he does not know yet! That is why, at the end of everything, only Yoda and Obi-Wan are left. They are the two Jedi who are closest to the Force!

OK, after posting all of this I feel like a complete dork! :D

[ISiddiqui]

Basically, the Jedi have lost touch with the force. They try to manipulate it, and are not listening to the will of the Force. That is why they measure Anakin's midi count, that is why Yoda is concerned about the future, not the present.
Very interesting. And I can see where you are going with that. In that viewing, the midichilorians make sense. The Jedi have lost their touch with the force and are trying to find, by science, the reasons for their success. They've gotten too complacent and thus can't even sense the biggest, baddest Sith right under their noses. They are left unprepared because they've been stagnant for generations.

Very nice indeed... and don't worry, we'll all dorks here ;).

[Warhammer]

Very interesting. And I can see where you are going with that. In that viewing, the midichilorians make sense. The Jedi have lost their touch with the force and are trying to find, by science, the reasons for their success. They've gotten too complacent and thus can't even sense the biggest, baddest Sith right under their noses. They are left unprepared because they've been stagnant for generations.

Exactly! Sort of like the Lakers in the Finals last year, they feel that if they show up, things will go well for them. Since they lost touch with what made them great, things begin to fall apart!

After watching AOTC, you begin to notice a bunch of little small things that Palps has been putting into Anakin's brain since the end of TPM! He is one awesome villain. Plus, the Jedi play into Palps hands because they never really wanted Anakin to be trained which leads to distrust and other things which become more and more manifest throughout the PT, and leads to Anakin's unhappiness with the order.

[Crapshoot]

hmm- that does tend to make sense - the attempt to rediscover, as it were.

[ISiddiqui]

Exactly! Sort of like the Lakers in the Finals last year, they feel that if they show up, things will go well for them. Since they lost touch with what made them great, things begin to fall apart!

After watching AOTC, you begin to notice a bunch of little small things that Palps has been putting into Anakin's brain since the end of TPM! He is one awesome villain. Plus, the Jedi play into Palps hands because they never really wanted Anakin to be trained which leads to distrust and other things which become more and more manifest throughout the PT, and leads to Anakin's unhappiness with the order.
And from the new trailer, it seems Palpatine could be just as good a villian as Vader was in the original trilogy. He is amazingly badass in the trailer. Who would have thought an old white guy would out-badass Samuel L. Jackson? ;)

[Havok]

Im sorry, TPM was absolute crap, the only good part was Darth Maul and the lightsaber duel at the end. The movie was extremely slow and boring at times, jar jar was a joke, and the whole pod racing thing was just so out of place.

AOTC was better imo, but that doesn't mean its anywhere near the level the original 3 are at. That Factory scene made we wanna walk out of the dam theater, R2D2 can all the sudden fly???? what???

This next movie better kick so serious ass, thats all im saying :) :)