Racist Rant of the Day

[HomerJSimpson]

Ok, call me a racist, but this is driving me batty. Why do so many black people refuse to use sidewalks? This is probably just a suburban thing since in most inner-city areas I haven't experience this as much, but it is definitely a problem in my subdivision. We have a nice, clean sidewalk created especially for people to be able to freely walk around the neighborhood. Many people use it daily for their exercise or just to kill some time and enjoy the day. For some reason, it seem a good number of people (all Black) refuse to use this service, and instead walk in the road! Worse is they don't get out of the way of passing cars and instead force people drive around them (or if another car is coming from the other way, stop until the way is clear).

I think this is akin to another racial profile type action common in this area: blocking walking areas in malls. If there are three black women walking together in a mall, it seems like they always spread out to prevent anyone from getting around them. They then will proceed to walk slowly, ignoring anyone trying to excuse themselves to go past.

Is this like a passive-aggressive thing? Are they trying to exert control in a world they feel like they have no control over? Or are they just being jerks? Am I a bigotted prick for even ranting about this?

[Tekneek]

Is this a joke? I've never seen that. Next time you're blocked out at the mall, ask if they're doing it because you're white. The response might surprise you. I can't help but think this is some prank thread. If you walk into a Foot Locker and everyone there is of a different race than you, you'll have a better time if you just turn around and leave and get about the same amount of assistance, too.

It's unfortunate, but I am sure just about everyone has some anecdote about a problem they've run into that seems to be based on race. All it does is prove that human beings have still not learned to look beyond that, which is disappointing.

[Warhammer]

It's unfortunate, but I am sure just about everyone has some anecdote about a problem they've run into that seems to be based on race. All it does is prove that human beings have still not learned to look beyond that, which is disappointing.

You're right, but unfortunately, depending where you live everything is about race. In Memphis, TN, I have been told I get too much whatever, attitude from people, credit, money, respect, etc. because I am white. I get attitude from the blacks because I am younger than most of them, but outrank many of them in my line of work. They resent that I get to tell them what to do. I have heard, "Why do I need to listen to a little white boy?" more times than I care to count. I have also heard, "You're only where you are because you are white!" Yeah, tell that to one of the guys in my group that is black! Heck, one of our black machinists quite because our new shop supervisor is white!

Now, I really think this boils down to class, not race. I get some of the same attitude from some of the white trash, but blacks always turn it into a racial issue.

Going back to the topic at hand, I have the same thing happen in my neighborhood. But I think it is more of a class thing than a racial thing. I live in a mixed neighborhood, mainly lower middle to middle middle class, with some old run down houses on the back side of the subdivision of mostly lower class homes. The people we have problems with that do not move are from the back side of the subdivision, those from the new part of the subdivision use the sidewalks or move out of the way. In my area, it just happens that all of the lower class families in my neighborhood are black. If I go to the mall, it is mainly blacks, but there are plenty of whites that do the same thing. Again, I think it runs more along class lines than racial lines.

[cuervo72]

I don't know about this in suburbs or in the mall, but I *can* tell you that while driving around the Hopkins medical campus when I worked there and in east Baltimore in general I *really* had to watch out, because people would decide to cross the street willy-nilly, with little regard to oncoming cars. I can't say I've really witnessed this anywhere else though.

[JonInMiddleGA]

You're right, but unfortunately, depending where you live everything is about race.

I didn't know you lived in Atlanta.
;)

[Warhammer]

I didn't know you lived in Atlanta.
;)

Memphis and Atlanta are more alike than either city would like to admit! :)

[BigJohn&TheLions]

I know what you mean about the mall thing. All the white women I see walking together in the mall are always in a nice, orderly, single-file line, like they are waiting in line or something....

As for the sidewalk thing, it is just to piss you off. When you leave they go back on the sidewalk and laugh their ass off at the white guy who gets pissed off at black people walking in the street. If you don't believe me, next time you see several young black men walking in the street go up and ask them "Why don't you people use the sidewalk like white people do?" (They really like it when you refer to them as "You people.") If you really want to score some hip-points, add a "YO!" at the end of your question.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Memphis and Atlanta are more alike than either city would like to admit! :)

My experiences with the former lead me to believe you're right.

My personal favorite had to be dropping by some mall to pick up a couple of things on a visit about 6 years ago and hearing a small child say "look Mama, a white baby" (referring to my then infant son).

[Subby]

Am I a bigotted prick for even ranting about this? Kind of?

Usually when people use their own limited experiences to attribute expected behavior across an entire race of people, I consider it bigoted and short-sighted. Unfortunately, this is one of our main shortcomings as human beings - we are shaped by our instincts and experiences, no matter how shallow or limited they may be.

Our saving grace is that we also have the capacity to choose *not* to act on those beliefs. It is also nice that we have the ability to use logic - because so many of our fears and beliefs are completely irrational and illogical.

[Ragone]

I think this is akin to another racial profile type action common in this area: blocking walking areas in malls. If there are three black women walking together in a mall, it seems like they always spread out to prevent anyone from getting around them. They then will proceed to walk slowly, ignoring anyone trying to excuse themselves to go past.



You know now that you mention it.. that does seem to happen quite often, but usually its the womans 67 illegimate kids forming the blockade manuever..

But seriously, i think thats a small minority of the minority that does that kinda stuff.. mostly the young and stupid crowd..

[Ragone]

My experiences with the former lead me to believe you're right.

My personal favorite had to be dropping by some mall to pick up a couple of things on a visit about 6 years ago and hearing a small child say "look Mama, a white baby" (referring to my then infant son).
Well at least he didn't follow it up with a "Kill whitey"

[condors]

i hate people who cross the street against the light!

[wade moore]

Kind of?

Usually when people use their own limited experiences to attribute expected behavior across an entire race of people, I consider it bigoted and short-sighted. Unfortunately, this is one of our main shortcomings as human beings - we are shaped by our instincts and experiences, no matter how shallow or limited they may be.

Our saving grace is that we also have the capacity to choose *not* to act on those beliefs. It is also nice that we have the ability to use logic - because so many of our fears and beliefs are completely irrational and illogical.


Well said.

[Raiders Army]

Is this a joke?

Isn't it April 1st?

[Lathum]

You know the title of this thread cracks me up "Racist rant of the day" I didn't realize there was such a thing, should we make this a daily post? Maybe tomorrow we can bash all of the Cubans that come into our country and steal our dishwashing jobs.

[Tekneek]

Maybe tomorrow we can bash all of the Cubans that come into our country and steal our dishwashing jobs.

Where do you live? Or maybe I am just out of touch with the dishwashing industry...

[Honolulu_Blue]

Isn't it April 1st?
I was hoping this was an ill-fated attempt at an April Fools joke, but I don't think it is...

[Blackadar]

Well at least he didn't follow it up with a "Kill whitey"

Kill whitey!

[weinstein7]

You know the title of this thread cracks me up "Racist rant of the day" I didn't realize there was such a thing, should we make this a daily post? Maybe tomorrow we can bash all of the Cubans that come into our country and steal our dishwashing jobs.

I reserve Tuesday's racist rant of the day to complain about all the Thais who stole all the bagel-making jobs in New York City.

a. It's true, I read it in the Times!
b. I don't really care, as long as they make a good bagel!

[Marmel]

This happens where I drive for work. A long stretch of the north end of Hartford is a very depressed area. Nice wide salkwalks on obth sides of the 4 lane street, but the black folks in the area prefer to use the street. I was told a little while back that they feel it is their street and their neighborhood. They know a lot of people travel through for work purposes (never stopping of course) and they want to make sure they damn well know they are travelling through their neighborhood. Incidentally I believe this part of Hartford has the highest homocide rate in the country (per some stats). Ain't no April Fools Joke at all, unfortunatly. :(

[Lathum]

Where do you live? Or maybe I am just out of touch with the dishwashing industry...
insert tounge in cheek

[wishbone]

In my area, the roads are usually black and the sidewalks are more pale. Perhaps people choose to walk on the surface they are more comfortable with?

[Marmel]

This happens where I drive for work. A long stretch of the north end of Hartford is a very depressed area. Nice wide salkwalks on obth sides of the 4 lane street, but the black folks in the area prefer to use the street. I was told a little while back that they feel it is their street and their neighborhood. They know a lot of people travel through for work purposes (never stopping of course) and they want to make sure they damn well know they are travelling through their neighborhood. Incidentally I believe this part of Hartford has the highest homocide rate in the country (per some stats). Ain't no April Fools Joke at all, unfortunatly. :(

I should add that this street (Route 44, or Albany Avenue, look it up) extends into a very affluent neighborhood not too far from the depressed area and also into a 'normal' neighborhood. In neither of these areas do you have the street walking phenomenon, though I am sure blacks and whites both, live in these other areas.

[Tekneek]

insert tounge in cheek

Hence my comment about the dishwashing industry...or is there actually such a thing?

[Tekneek]

In neither of these areas do you have the street walking phenomenon, though I am sure blacks and whites both, live in these other areas.

What about the latinos? Are they streetwalkers too, or do they live in a different side of town? Any orientals hanging around looking shady?


:rolleyes:

[Lathum]

Hence my comment about the dishwashing industry...or is there actually such a thing?
such a thing as what?

[Tekneek]

such a thing as what?

"a dishwashing industry"

[Pumpy Tudors]

When the words "dishwashing industry" make their way into a thread, you know that things are way the fuck out of control.

[Raiders Army]

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[HomerJSimpson]

Kind of?

Usually when people use their own limited experiences to attribute expected behavior across an entire race of people, I consider it bigoted and short-sighted. Unfortunately, this is one of our main shortcomings as human beings - we are shaped by our instincts and experiences, no matter how shallow or limited they may be.

Our saving grace is that we also have the capacity to choose *not* to act on those beliefs. It is also nice that we have the ability to use logic - because so many of our fears and beliefs are completely irrational and illogical.


Well, I think "kind of" is fair. I did want to put a disclaimer on this to say that I'm in no means saying all Black people but, as someone else put it, a "minority of a minority." (I would have added more in the first post but my keyboard crapped out). I think as someone else pointed out this is possibly more a class thing than a race thing. Also it may be more the culture of a certain area. I just need to rant after once again nearly hitting someone head on coming into my neihboorhood because some kid was standing in the middle of the street instead of the nice, empty sidewalk ten feet away. *sigh*

[Franklinnoble]

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Every time you do that, it cracks me up. I have no idea why.

Personally, I think these colored folk are doing the right thing. Clearly, sidewalks are the safer place to walk, and, back in the day, would have been labeled "Whites Only." It's nice to see that some negroes still know their place.

[Tekneek]

I don't know why, but I feel compelled to point out that many subdivisions these days are built without sidewalks.

Point made and so noted. :D

[st.cronin]

I don't know why, but I feel compelled to point out that many subdivisions these days are built without sidewalks.

[Tekneek]

Every time you do that, it cracks me up. I have no idea why.

It is like when they used to have 1-900 polls and deciding to spend that 50 cents calling the "Don't care/No opinion" number.

[Subby]

Personally, I think these colored folk are doing the right thing. Clearly, sidewalks are the safer place to walk, and, back in the day, would have been labeled "Whites Only." It's nice to see that some negroes still know their place. I have to give you credit...no one tries harder than you to be funny. :)

[Klinglerware]

Now, I really think this boils down to class, not race.


I think this is very true. Poor white people in Appalachia or wherever have much more in common with poor black people than they do with rich white people.

I think a lot of people in this country, of all ethnicities, instinctively go to race first on all issues when socio-economic class is really what is at the heart of the matter. Perhaps, way back when, the powers that be encouraged the lower classes to think in this way as a method to keep them divided amongst themselves, and such attitudes remain since old habits die hard...

[sovereignstar]

This same thing happened to me at school yesterday, but it involved a lesbian. I was all uh-uhhh girlfriennn!

[Fritz]

I think this is very true. Poor white people in Appalachia or wherever have much more in common with poor black people than they do with rich white people.

I think a lot of people in this country, of all ethnicities, instinctively go to race first on all issues when socio-economic class is really what is at the heart of the matter.


This explains the proliferation of hair weave shops in West Virginia.

[samifan24]

This happens where I drive for work. A long stretch of the north end of Hartford is a very depressed area. Nice wide salkwalks on obth sides of the 4 lane street, but the black folks in the area prefer to use the street. I was told a little while back that they feel it is their street and their neighborhood. They know a lot of people travel through for work purposes (never stopping of course) and they want to make sure they damn well know they are travelling through their neighborhood. Incidentally I believe this part of Hartford has the highest homocide rate in the country (per some stats). Ain't no April Fools Joke at all, unfortunatly. :(

Park Street and Frog Hollow come to mind. I've never been to the latter, but went down the former several times on my way to Hartford Hospital, and I never noticed people out in the street. It is a dangerous part of town, though.

[JonInMiddleGA]

It is a dangerous part of town, though.

Which might account for that whole "not being out in the street" thing.

[Raiders Army]

Every time you do that, it cracks me up. I have no idea why.

Personally, I think these colored folk are doing the right thing. Clearly, sidewalks are the safer place to walk, and, back in the day, would have been labeled "Whites Only." It's nice to see that some negroes still know their place.
Actually you crack me up as well. ;)

[Dutch]

I don't know why, but I feel compelled to point out that many subdivisions these days are built without sidewalks.

You fucking suburbanist! You look at your little glimpse of the world and proclaim that many subdivisions aren't built with sidewalks? How fucking shallow. Get out and walk every state of the union and then come back and say such mean spirited things about America's suburbs.

Unbe-fucking-leavable that we live in a world where people can make such ignorant accusations about things they no so little about.

[samifan24]

Which might account for that whole "not being out in the street" thing.

People still walk on the streets in their own neighborhood, but when the violence and gangs flare up, they know to steer clear. Being from the suburbs I was nervous just being down there, but people who live there knew when and when not to go walking the streets.

[st.cronin]

You fucking suburbanist! You look at your little glimpse of the world and proclaim that many subdivisions aren't built with sidewalks? How fucking shallow. Get out and walk every state of the union and then come back and say such mean spirited things about America's suburbs.

Unbe-fucking-leavable that we live in a world where people can make such ignorant accusations about things they no so little about.


:eek:

[Young Drachma]

Ok, call me a racist, but this is driving me batty. Why do so many black people refuse to use sidewalks? This is probably just a suburban thing since in most inner-city areas I haven't experience this as much, but it is definitely a problem in my subdivision. We have a nice, clean sidewalk created especially for people to be able to freely walk around the neighborhood. Many people use it daily for their exercise or just to kill some time and enjoy the day. For some reason, it seem a good number of people (all Black) refuse to use this service, and instead walk in the road! Worse is they don't get out of the way of passing cars and instead force people drive around them (or if another car is coming from the other way, stop until the way is clear).

I think this is akin to another racial profile type action common in this area: blocking walking areas in malls. If there are three black women walking together in a mall, it seems like they always spread out to prevent anyone from getting around them. They then will proceed to walk slowly, ignoring anyone trying to excuse themselves to go past.

Is this like a passive-aggressive thing? Are they trying to exert control in a world they feel like they have no control over? Or are they just being jerks? Am I a bigotted prick for even ranting about this?


Umm...I don't use the sidewalks because they're white. I'd prefer to have darker ones, to reflect my heritage. Sorry.

And about the black woman thing, if I heard correctly at the last "BlackFolks(tm)" meeting, one of the leaders said that their goal was to ensure that white people "saw them there," and even if there was black people behind them, don't let them through unless they recited "the pledge." And you betcha it's not the pledge of allegiance.

[/takes tongue out of cheek]

Seriously, the thing you mentioned with "black women" seemed to remind me distinctly of mothers at the upscale shopping mall I worked at in New Jersey. And they were generally always white. But even still, teenagers did that too. I think it's a natural tendency when you're in a group.

Would it bug you if the next time this happens, it's a group of young white kids? Or is it just when the coloured people do it you have a problem?

Though FYI, next time you want to rant..how about just the subject "Some pet peeves" or whatever. Because racist rant of the day brings out the masses and then you ask "Am I bigoted..." Uh, well pal. Let's go back to your subject.

I think it's generally dangerous to make assumptions about an entire "race" of people based on your own personal experiences with them. Especially in a country with as many people as we have, you spend enough time and go to enough places and you're going to meet lots of folks you dislike, regardless of what they look like and what they do.

[cuervo72]

So wait...if you had a caucasian heritage, would your handle then be White Cloud?

[Fritz]

like the toilet paper?

[VPI97]

Black, white, red or green - I hate people who stand in front of the elevator doors waiting to get on and just end up blocking people trying to get out.

[Hurst2112]

"What's wrong with being racey?"

"No, race-IST. They had a problem with it being race-IST"

"It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever."

(ala Spinal Tap)

[Young Drachma]

So wait...if you had a caucasian heritage, would your handle then be White Cloud?

Actually, the "Dark Cloud" thing has nothing to do with me being black. It comes from a character from the movie "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" It was a long running joke with some friends, I adopted the moniker for a while back in the day and it still exists in one of my company names (Dark Cloud Media) and on some message board SNs, most notably here and on OOTP boards.

I blogged about it here (http://ishouldstudymore.net/shr/?p=255), because some folks were curious where that all came from.

[Tekneek]

Especially in a country with as many people as we have, you spend enough time and go to enough places and you're going to meet lots of folks you dislike, regardless of what they look like and what they do.

Yep. People act like asshats regardless of their shape, color, national origin, gender, or religion.

[cuervo72]

like the toilet paper?

Bingo.

http://www.scottpaper.ca/images/white_cloud.jpg

[timmynausea]

I'd like to be the first to declare this racist rant a smashing success! We have got to do this more often, fellas.

[cuervo72]

I wonder if there is a market for black toilet paper...

[Hurst2112]

I wonder if there is a market for black toilet paper...


Soon as they invent white shit.

[Franklinnoble]

It's been done.

http://sic.sapo.pt/images/articles/18392/renova.jpg

[Tekneek]

Soon as they invent white shit.

Maybe it depends on what you eat.

[Hurst2112]

Maybe it depends on what you eat.

I would susspect not. My shit seems to be mostly brown. I don't eat brown things all day. Though I did buy some clearance Easter, Reeses eggs.

[cuervo72]

Soon as they invent white shit.

That reminds me of an old cartoon, actually...

[Tekneek]

I would susspect not. My shit seems to be mostly brown. I don't eat brown things all day. Though I did buy some clearance Easter, Reeses eggs.

Eat nothing but carrots for a 24 hour period and see what it looks like.

[Hurst2112]

Eat nothing but carrots for a 24 hour period and see what it looks like.

Ok. I don't work this weekend...

[Tekneek]

Ok. I don't work this weekend...

Do not post any pictures.

[Desnudo]

If it makes you feel better Homer, I've seen plenty of white people acting generally like fools both in the shopping mall and walking in the street. The reason why you don't see that kind of behaviour in the city is that people would simply run them over, whereas in the suburbs you can get away with that stuff.

[Raiders Army]

Those damn blue little smurfs always frustrate Gargamel...and don't get me started on the Hulk.

[Karlifornia]

The KKK is actually using this problem as a new rally cry. "Keep the blacks out of our street and out of our COUNTRY!!!"

I think that blacks walk in the road because they're all running drugs and this is a form of correspondence.

I think that blacks walk in the road because the over-production of melanin in their skin seeps into their bloodstream, causing erratic walking patterns.

I think that blacks block you while walking in the mall because their sole purpose in life is to keep you from getting to Panda Express to stuff your fat face.

[MrBug708]

People on surface streets in the suburbs of LA county, they tend to drive about 10 MPH slower then the speed limit and seem to think that turning signals are optional. They also all seem to drive only Mercedes and Lexus's to go with their Camary's and Accord's. It's all limited to a certain group of people it seems. I think it's more of a racial generation issue as their kids tend to drive to fast and too stupid.

[Lathum]

I think that blacks block you while walking in the mall because their sole purpose in life is to keep you from getting to Panda Express to stuff your fat face.
Why you gotta mess with the Chinese food?

[Desnudo]

I'm slim, but like Chinese food. Does that mean that black people will let me pass?

[Bubba Wheels]

I think this is very true. Poor white people in Appalachia or wherever have much more in common with poor black people than they do with rich white people.

I think a lot of people in this country, of all ethnicities, instinctively go to race first on all issues when socio-economic class is really what is at the heart of the matter. Perhaps, way back when, the powers that be encouraged the lower classes to think in this way as a method to keep them divided amongst themselves, and such attitudes remain since old habits die hard...

This is one of the reasons that some want to alter affirmative action to exclude middle-class and upper-class income blacks/minorities to open it up more for impoverished folks of all colors to include whites. Because this makes so much sense and does it in a truly color-blind way, don't ever expect it to happen. Unfortunately.

[SplitPersonality1]

Kill whitey!
Says the poster known as Blackie. :)

[Dutch]

:eek:

Since I got ZERO reaction from my rant save the above eek, I'd better pass along to st. cronin that my assault on your knowledge of sidewalks in suburbia was all done with tongue--firmly planted--in cheek. :p

[cthomer5000]

I think it's only racist if you now decide you hate all black people because they seem to be the only ones clogging up the streets with the behavior you've described.

Stereotyping isn't always bad though (IMHO). Here's my personal example.

For 3 years, I've gotten on a train every morning a 30-45 minute ride to Newark (before i hop on another train). I would say that 1/3 of the riders like to sleep, 1/3 quietly go about their business (reading a paper, fiddling with a laptop, staring blankly ahead), and 1/3 socialize.

Now I never get enough sleep, so I've come to really rely on this nap on my way into work, and I get cranky when I don't get it (although I never tell anyone to shut up or keep it down... I just sit there frustrated).

I sleep each day on the train while listening to music at a moderate volume, so you really have to be making some noise to get to me (and probably sitting 1-2 seats away from me).

It didn't take me long to realize that seemingly every time someone was keeping me awake, a middle-aged black woman was involved. I'm not joking... it became so apparent that I actually starting tracking this. Of the next 20 times I was kept awake by a single, centralized group of people, 16 of them included at least 1 black woman, middle-aged or older

Since the stop I get on is fairly early, the train is pretty empty, giving me my choice of seats.

Now, if I board the train, see one or more older black women, and walk a few extra rows before sitting down am I being racist or just trying to increase the odds that I get a little extra sleep in before work?

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm only racist against Pontiac Drivers. This was a theory pesented to me by my former boss, when I was working in Chicago. It's uncanny how often it is true (at least in Chicagoland).

Whenever a car makes some asinine maneuver, cuts you off, or is in general being an Asshole Driver...make a mental note. It's almost always a Pontiac.

[st.cronin]

Since I got ZERO reaction from my rant save the above eek, I'd better pass along to st. cronin that my assault on your knowledge of sidewalks in suburbia was all done with tongue--firmly planted--in cheek. :p

I assumed as much, but 'eek' was still the only appropriate reply.

[Cringer]

Going back to the topic at hand, I have the same thing happen in my neighborhood. But I think it is more of a class thing than a racial thing. I live in a mixed neighborhood, mainly lower middle to middle middle class, with some old run down houses on the back side of the subdivision of mostly lower class homes. The people we have problems with that do not move are from the back side of the subdivision, those from the new part of the subdivision use the sidewalks or move out of the way. In my area, it just happens that all of the lower class families in my neighborhood are black. If I go to the mall, it is mainly blacks, but there are plenty of whites that do the same thing. Again, I think it runs more along class lines than racial lines.

All I know about the sidewalks of Memphis, is that all the whores walking along U.S. 78 use them, black and white together. If it is 11:00 PM or 5:00 AM, they are there. And they like to wave to me too.
:D

[Ragone]

I'm only racist against Pontiac Drivers. This was a theory pesented to me by my former boss, when I was working in Chicago. It's uncanny how often it is true (at least in Chicagoland).

Whenever a car makes some asinine maneuver, cuts you off, or is in general being an Asshole Driver...make a mental note. It's almost always a Pontiac.


haha, you know.. now that you mention it

[HomerJSimpson]

Seriously, the thing you mentioned with "black women" seemed to remind me distinctly of mothers at the upscale shopping mall I worked at in New Jersey. And they were generally always white. But even still, teenagers did that too. I think it's a natural tendency when you're in a group.

But not all will purposely ignore you/block you as you try to go by. That is what I'm talking about.

Would it bug you if the next time this happens, it's a group of young white kids? Or is it just when the coloured people do it you have a problem?

Yes, it would. And I would say "this groups of white teenagers bug me to death." Because that is a description of who they are. I think it is just as racist to ignore race as it is to judge only by race. I'm sorry if that is the impression I'm giving, but as stated earlier, I'm not saying "all" or eveen "most." I'm talking about some black people here and in other areas I've seen. Because they are universally black in this case, am I supposed to ignore they are black?

Though FYI, next time you want to rant..how about just the subject "Some pet peeves" or whatever. Because racist rant of the day brings out the masses and then you ask "Am I bigoted..." Uh, well pal. Let's go back to your subject.

I'll take a note that any time we talk about race it is racist. So, Skydog's "Why do black people like white women" thread must of offended you, too. Funny how you didn't mention it there.

I think it's generally dangerous to make assumptions about an entire "race" of people based on your own personal experiences with them. Especially in a country with as many people as we have, you spend enough time and go to enough places and you're going to meet lots of folks you dislike, regardless of what they look like and what they do.

Actually, I think I made it quite clear that it wasn't an "entire race." I wish it would have been clearer in the first thread, but my keyboardcrapped out as I was typing and that caused me to abrievate the post. I was really hoping for less smart-aleck remarks (though I guess the tongue-in-cheek title sort of asked for it) and something along the lines of a true reason. There has to be something (Marmel probably comes closest).

Sorry if anyone was truly offended by what was really an honest question. If it is too offensive, I'll gladly remove the thread.

[Dutch]

I assumed as much, but 'eek' was still the only appropriate reply.

It was very appropriate given the circumstances. :)