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SunDevil
04-21-2005, 11:38 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=4&u=/ap/20050421/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq_spending&sid=84439559

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly approved $81 billion for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in a spending bill that would push the total cost of combat and reconstruction past $300 billion.

Both the Senate and House versions of the measure would give President Bush much of the money he requested. But the bills differ over what portion should go to military operations.

Bush urged a quick resolution of the differences and passage of a bill "that focuses taxpayer dollars on providing the tools our troops and diplomats need now."

The Pentagon says it needs the money by the first week of May, so Senate and House negotiators are expected to act quickly to send the president a final bill.

Other issues to be resolved in the competing versions include immigration changes, a U.S. embassy in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, military death benefits and the fate of an aircraft carrier.

"I'm confident we will be able to come back with a product, in the form of a conference report, which the Senate can support," said Sen. Thad Cochran (news, bio, voting record), R-Miss., chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee.

He said the bill gives strong support to troops in the fight against terrorism and provides needed dollars for the State Department.

Overall, the Senate version would cost $81.3 billion, compared with the $81.4 billion the House approved and the $81.9 billion that Bush requested.

Congress has passed four similar emergency spending measures for the wars since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. This one would put the overall cost of combat and reconstruction efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan — as well as Pentagon operations against terrorists worldwide — past $300 billion.

The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, says lawmakers previously approved $228 billion. The latest money is to last through Sept. 30, the end of the current budget year. Pentagon officials have said they will have to ask for more money for 2006.

In both the House and Senate, lawmakers struggled to give troops whatever they needed and pay only for projects deemed urgent. Congress was leaving other items to be dealt with in the regular budget for the new budget year starting Oct. 1. In doing so, they were sending a message to the White House that it cannot expect a rubber stamp from Congress on its emergency war-spending requests.

Still, as Bush requested, the bulk of the money — about $75 billion — would go to the Pentagon. The Army and the Marine Corps, the two service branches doing most of the fighting, would get the most.

The House bill would add money to the president's request for defense expenses; the Senate's would not. The Senate version would restore some money the House cut for foreign aid and State Department programs.

The Senate bill also would provide $592 million to build a U.S. embassy in Baghdad. The House bill does not fund the construction of a fortified diplomatic compound.

The Senate added a requirement that the Pentagon report every three months to Congress on how many Iraqi security forces are trained and how many U.S. troops are needed.

The Senate also put in requirement that the Pentagon keep the Navy's fleet of 12 aircraft carriers intact. The Pentagon had proposed scrapping one carrier to save money.

The Senate version would increase a one-time benefit for the families of soldiers killed to $100,000 from $12,000, regardless of whether the deaths occurred in combat, and increase life insurance as well. The House version limits the extra money to survivors of those killed in combat-related duty.

One of the most contentious issues facing congressional negotiators is whether to include an immigration overhaul in the final bill. The Senate decided to take up

WrongWay
04-22-2005, 03:03 AM
Yes, now illegal aliens can not get Driver Licenses.

Don't ask me why, but the bill to make it illegal for an illegal alien to get a driver license in this country was attached to this bill. Untill now an Illegal alien could go into a driver license office and obtain a state driver license.

Why this issue was tied together with the War funding is beyond me. And, I still do not understand why illegal aliens are give Driver's license's right now, and not immediately arrested.

Ragone
04-22-2005, 03:48 AM
Yes, now illegal aliens can not get Driver Licenses.

Don't ask me why, but the bill to make it illegal for an illegal alien to get a driver license in this country was attached to this bill. Untill now an Illegal alien could go into a driver license office and obtain a state driver license.

Why this issue was tied together with the War funding is beyond me. And, I still do not understand why illegal aliens are give Driver's license's right now, and not immediately arrested.


Because they don't want uninsured/unlicensed motorists on the roads they aren't EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ON IN THE FIRST PLACE.. duh :)

Flasch186
04-22-2005, 06:58 AM
Yes, now illegal aliens can not get Driver Licenses.

Don't ask me why, but the bill to make it illegal for an illegal alien to get a driver license in this country was attached to this bill. Untill now an Illegal alien could go into a driver license office and obtain a state driver license.

Why this issue was tied together with the War funding is beyond me. And, I still do not understand why illegal aliens are give Driver's license's right now, and not immediately arrested.


If you were the INS and your head dog said, "The laws are un-enforceable" what would you do? Or perhaps even, their was a TPS report that let them know not to arrest them since they were building his home in Virginia and his rate lock might expire if they were arrested and deported.

flere-imsaho
04-22-2005, 09:43 AM
Wait a sec, wasn't Iraq supposed to be able to pay for its own reconstruction?

Fonzie
04-22-2005, 09:47 AM
Wait a sec, wasn't Iraq supposed to be able to pay for its own reconstruction?

They're having some trouble over there, I hear. But I'm sure that'll all be fixed soon. ;)

Flasch186
04-22-2005, 09:52 AM
im fine with it as perhaps now they'll be able to afford ARMOR for the troops....and maybe EVERYONE who is military over there will get adequate equipment instead of picking and choosing who should and who shouldnt get best equipment to protect ourselves.

Flere - We cant bitch about one end of it and then bitch about the solution.

I think the problem though is theyre pissing the money away on things that perhaps dont line up with our priorities.

judicial clerk
04-22-2005, 01:15 PM
Or perhaps even, their was a TPS report that let them know not to arrest them since they were building his home in Virginia and his rate lock might expire if they were arrested and deported.


if the TPS report didn't have the correct cover sheet then I would ignore it.

Let me take this opportunity to announce the founding of the people's Constitutional Republic of Judicial Clerk. I dare the United States to invade and reconstruct my nation. Speicifically, i am looking for a bloodless surrender and a deck off of the back of my house that kind of extends out over the seasonal creek that runs back there. I think that would be cool. maybe a footbridge across the creek and put up a gazebo on the other side.