Serenity (aka "Firefly" the movie)

[Honolulu_Blue]

I reckon it's a might bit early to start a thread about a movie that isn't coming out until September 30, but the trailer was just released and it looks sweet as hell.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity/

The film is based off Joss Whedon's amazing, fantastic, superb yet painfully short-lived (less than one season) sci-fi series "Firefly." I couldn't reccommend this show enough to anyone who likes sci-fi. The entire run of the show (including episodes never aired) is available on DVD (so go buy it/rent it/put it on your Netflix list/or whatever kids are doing this days). Universal greenlighted this picture on the strength of the show's DVD sales. Impressive stuff.

[Honolulu_Blue]

My mistake - thought this was about adult incontinence products. Carry on.
I aint quite there yet, old man. But if I do have to cross that bridge in the future I now know who to call. Appreciate it.

[RendeR]

I watched like 2 episodes of firefly and lost all interest....you're saying it was actually popular?

[Franklinnoble]

My mistake - thought this was about adult incontinence products. Carry on.
And it's QuikSand with the brilliant one-post threadjack.

Nicely done.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I watched like 2 episodes of firefly and lost all interest....you're saying it was actually popular?
It wasn't popular at all while on the air. Fox dicked around with it. Showed episodes out of order. Changed the time and day it aired. Basically ruined any chance it had.

Once it was put out on DVD, however, it became quite a hit. A cult it, in most regards, but the sales were strong enough for Universal to take a chance in making a motion picture out of a TV show that had poor ratings. That's gotta say something.

I'd reccomend giving it another shot, but, hey, people like different things. Heck, some people even think the last two Star Wars movies were as good as the originals. People are crazy sometimes. ;)

[Joe]

SERENITY NOW!!

[DeToxRox]

SERENITY NOW!!

.. Insanity later

[Tigercat]

From a show that Fox stupidly aired out of order, and therefore never had a real chance to pick up a real fan base before being canceled after 10-11 aired episodes, to a show that sold unbelievably well on DVD thanks to word of mouth recommendations, to a 50 million dollar budgeted movie. One of the best examples of quality winning out even after the entertainment executives never gave it a real chance in the begining.

OK and I just saw the trailer. I don't need a kleenex, I need a freakin mop. Wow, those are some of the best special effects I have ever seen, the filming looks really crisp and exciting too. The movie is gonna rock, especially for those of us that love the show.

[ISiddiqui]

It was alright. Kind of fun TV show. FOX did show the episodes out of order. I watched it when it was on, but never bought the DVD and don't have plans to do so. I'm not sure if a movie will be all that successful, but who knows.

[Vince]

I know it is Fox, and that should explain everything -- but what exactly is the point to airing a series' episodes out of order? What gain could that possibly have to anyone?

[Suicane75]

My mind instantly went to Serenity the porn star, cause thats how I roll.

[Tigercat]

It was alright. Kind of fun TV show. FOX did show the episodes out of order. I watched it when it was on, but never bought the DVD and don't have plans to do so. I'm not sure if a movie will be all that successful, but who knows.

You really should give it a chance on DVD if you get a chance. You may not feel different afterwards, but I thought the exact same as you after seeing a few episodes on TV(ok and fun, but nothing that really sets it apart), but watching the characters and story advance in order made a big difference for most. (I gave it the chance simply because so many were saying how much better it was in order, and it was only ~30 bucks for 13-14 one hour episodes).


I know it is Fox, and that should explain everything. But what exactly is the point to airing a series' episodes out of order? What gain could that possibly have to anyone?


This was before 24 and Fox didn't yet understand the whole idea of a running storyline in a dramatic series. They saw the script for the first two hour pilot episode and decided that they wanted an action packed one hour first episode to air instead. Which was a shame, because the pilot episode really was a good way to introduce the series. After that Fox screwed with the order at least a couple more times, which hurt Firefly because it had quite a few running plots.

[Honolulu_Blue]

It was alright. Kind of fun TV show. FOX did show the episodes out of order. I watched it when it was on, but never bought the DVD and don't have plans to do so. I'm not sure if a movie will be all that successful, but who knows.
Go watch your extended version director's cut editions of "Phantom Menace" and Attack of the Clones". More your speed. :p :D

[Peregrine]

Very impressive trailer, I am so looking forward to this, and keeping my fingers crossed that if the movie does well they will bring the show back on the air.

[Mr. Wednesday]

This was before 24 and Fox didn't yet understand the whole idea of a running storyline in a dramatic series. Are you sure about that? I could swear there had been at least one season of 24 played at the time that Firefly aired.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, despite the impressive DVD sales, I'm not sure it will ever be quite right in concept or cost to succeed as a TV show.

[Tigercat]

Are you sure about that? I could swear there had been at least one season of 24 played at the time that Firefly aired.

Now that I think about it, I think your right. Firefly was fall 2002, and I think 24 first aired in 2001. Which would make Fox's decision to air a drama out of order all the more staggering.

[sachmo71]

Firefly was incredible. Can't wait for Serenity.

I can see where the whole space cowboy thing would throw some off, but it really was an entertaining show. The movie should do well, I think.

[DanGarion]

Firefly was 2001. I remember because it was preempted by all the News from 9/11

or atleast I could have swore it was...

[ISiddiqui]

Dola, despite the impressive DVD sales, I'm not sure it will ever be quite right in concept or cost to succeed as a TV show.
You definetly could be right about that. I think the setting would have put people off. Sci-Fi isn't accepted by most... especially not Sci-Fi/Western.

[larrymcg421]

Dola, despite the impressive DVD sales, I'm not sure it will ever be quite right in concept or cost to succeed as a TV show.
I have to agree. It's a character based sci fi show and wasnt fast paced enough to reach a wide audience. The way FOX handled it made it even worse, though.

It should work really well as a motion picture (maybe series?). With only a $45 million budget, it should certainly be profitable considering all the loyal fans who will see it multiple times.

[Tigercat]

Firefly was 2001. I remember because it was preempted by all the News from 9/11

or atleast I could have swore it was...

Firefly was definitely 2002., Below is the order of the episodes, the order which that episode aired, and the dates, to show how out of order they showed the episodes.

1(pilot) 11th to air, 12/20/02
2 1st 9/20/02
3 2nd 9/27/02
4 6th 11/1/02
5 7th 11/8/02
6 3rd 10/4/02
7 4th 10/18/02
8 5th 10/25/02
9 8th 11/15/02
10 9th 12/06/02
11 Never aired
12 Never aired
13 Never aired
14 10th 12/13/02

[Honolulu_Blue]

Dola, despite the impressive DVD sales, I'm not sure it will ever be quite right in concept or cost to succeed as a TV show.
I felt the same way. I'm a big a fan of Whedon as there is, but even I looked down my nose at the concept and didn't watch it when it was originally aired. That said, after having watched it, the concept works. The concept really works. The cost, however, could make it prohibitive to work as a TV. I think the best things fans could hope from a successful movie is, well, more movies. The chances of the TV show being resurrected are slim to none.

[Glengoyne]

I enjoyed the first couple of episodes I saw, but they were out of order and disjointed. I enjoyed what I saw, but their moving it around kept me from "buying in".

On DvD, it was great. Easilly a great buy at $40 for the whole season/series. It was really only getting started when they cut it.

[Bonegavel]

I enjoyed Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie (Kristy Swanson **bites palm**) but HATED the t.v. show. I kept hearing that Whedon was some kind of genius but I just couldn't get into the show.

I remember the ads for Firefly the t.v. show (Coming this Fall!!) and, being a sci-fi nut, couldn't wait to give it a shot. They played up the Whedon thing which actually made me think I'd hate it.

Best show ever. Regardless of the theme (sci-fi/western) it is just a great cast and even better characters. The Firefly universe was so well thought out and brought to life that this could have become spin-off city.

It never once occurred to me that the show didn't have enough "action" or whatever. Took me all of 1 episode (even out of order) to love the hell out of the characters. (Jayne is prolly my favorite).

To each his own. But in this case, if you don't like the show you have no soul.

[Honolulu_Blue]

But in this case, if you don't like the show you have no soul.
Truer words have not spoken on this board in long... long time.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Bump.

Movie's still coming out September 30.

[sabotai]

When this thread was originally made, I hadn't seen the show. I borrowed the DVDs from a friend and got really hooked on it. Can't wait for the movie.

[Honolulu_Blue]

When this thread was originally made, I hadn't seen the show. I borrowed the DVDs from a friend and got really hooked on it. Can't wait for the movie.
Excellent! The show was genious. I was as skeptical as anyone about the premise, but it worked so well. Some great concepts and ideas, though the strength is/was/and always will be the characters.

[MikeVic]

I just watched the series recently too. Really good show. In case anyone wanted to know, there is a 3-issue comic mini series that bridges the gap between the show and the movie. I've read issues 2 and 3, and some fairly significant stuff happens.

[WussGawd]

You really should give it a chance on DVD if you get a chance. You may not feel different afterwards, but I thought the exact same as you after seeing a few episodes on TV(ok and fun, but nothing that really sets it apart), but watching the characters and story advance in order made a big difference for most. (I gave it the chance simply because so many were saying how much better it was in order, and it was only ~30 bucks for 13-14 one hour episodes).



This was before 24 and Fox didn't yet understand the whole idea of a running storyline in a dramatic series. They saw the script for the first two hour pilot episode and decided that they wanted an action packed one hour first episode to air instead. Which was a shame, because the pilot episode really was a good way to introduce the series. After that Fox screwed with the order at least a couple more times, which hurt Firefly because it had quite a few running plots.

Actually, 24 had run for at least one, maybe two seasons before Firefly came out.

Yes, they ran episodes out of order, which sucked. It also had a real funky timeslot if I recall.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Actually, 24 had run for at least one, maybe two seasons before Firefly came out.

Yes, they ran episodes out of order, which sucked. It also had a real funky timeslot if I recall. Yeah, "24" started in 2001 (I remember them delaying the first episode because of September 11) and "Firefly" debuted in 2002.

I think Firefly had a dreaded Friday night timeslot, but it was subsequently moved once or twice, which did nothing to help it out. Not having the two hour pilot for a show as story and character driven as "Firefly" is flat out retarded.

[ausonny]

I was lucky enough to attend one of the sneak previews a couple months ago, and it is fantastic. I'll definitely be in line again on the 30th.

[gi]

This TV show would have had a long run if it started on Sci-fi channel instead of Fox. That being said, I've gotten a ton of people hooked by loaning out my DVD set. Trying to win tickets to the premire through a local area contest. Can't wait for the movie!

[HomerJSimpson]

Serenity fans have a zeal for proselytizing that you usually find in new Evangelical Christians or crack dealers.

[DanGarion]

Serenity fans have a zeal for proselytizing that you usually find in new Evangelical Christians or crack dealers.
Very true. My girlfriend doesn't care for fantasy/sci-fi or action movies/tv, but I had her watch the first 3 episodes of Firefly and she got hooked! :D

[SelzShoes]

This TV show would have had a long run if it started on Sci-fi channel instead of Fox. Yes, because Sci-Fi channel handled Farscape so well.

[gi]

Yes, because Sci-Fi channel handled Farscape so well. Had issues there, but I would think that Joss would have done a little better at managing the Sci-Fi Management.

[ice4277]

I recently watched the series on DVD and absolutely loved it. I can't wait for the movie to come out.

[sabotai]

Yes, because Sci-Fi channel handled Farscape so well.
Yeah, but Farscape sucked. :)

[stevew]

I think this trailer makes the movie look incredibly "cheap." I understand if the movie is made for the diehard fans. But I watch a lot of Sci-FI movies, and this doesnt look like anything i would want to see in a theatre. The villian looks almost laughable, if he were a "name" actor, I'd buy the fact that its possible that he is evil. Maybe I'll get around to renting it and the TV show sometime.

[-Mojo Jojo-]

Huzzah for the Browncoats! I cannot wait for this movie. 10 days to go...

[ausonny]

I think this trailer makes the movie look incredibly "cheap." I understand if the movie is made for the diehard fans. But I watch a lot of Sci-FI movies, and this doesnt look like anything i would want to see in a theatre. The villian looks almost laughable, if he were a "name" actor, I'd buy the fact that its possible that he is evil. Maybe I'll get around to renting it and the TV show sometime.
[spoilers in terms of character description]







Welcome to the world of Joss Whedon. The villains are rarely one dimensional and the Operative is no exception. The fact that he is so polite, or maybe calm is a better word, is a part of what makes him interesting to me. He isn't evil in the traditional sense. He feels little emotion but duty. He's also a true believer in the Alliance. I can't say more without drifting into more spoilers than I should give. I may have crossed that line already for some people.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I think this trailer makes the movie look incredibly "cheap." I understand if the movie is made for the diehard fans. But I watch a lot of Sci-FI movies, and this doesnt look like anything i would want to see in a theatre. The villian looks almost laughable, if he were a "name" actor, I'd buy the fact that its possible that he is evil. Maybe I'll get around to renting it and the TV show sometime.
Unlike ausonny, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the film because it looks "cheap". I have seen far, far, far too many movies in the theater because they looked "expensive" in the trailers (see: Michael Bay films, War of the Worlds, and Star Wars prequels, Matrix II & III), but sucked my sweaty balls in terms of plot, dialogue, character, or any other factor that typically makes a movie good. These movies looked good, but sucked ass. It's very possible that Serenity will look bad and stink, but you never know.

Though I do understand the line of thought that says "This movie looks great. I need to see it in a theater to fully appreciate it." (Typicallly with effects movies) and saying "That movie looks good, but I don't necessarily need to plunk down my $10 to see it in a theater. It wont lose much on the small screen, I can wait."

[Kodos]

Maybe I'll check the series out. I was one of the few who really enjoyed Whedon's "Alien Resurrection" movie. :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

Maybe I'll check the series out. I was one of the few who really enjoyed Whedon's "Alien Resurrection" movie. :)
Wow. I didn't even like that movie and I'm a huge Whedonite.

[G-Man]

Maybe I'll check the series out. I was one of the few who really enjoyed Whedon's "Alien Resurrection" movie. :)

They killed the series with that last one. Hopefully with the newer AvP the good name of Aliens can be "resurrected" again (like the pun) ;)

I believe that the series Firefly will be telecast on September 27th all day on SciFi! A marathon, I do believe. I am going to tape all the episodes shown and try and watch them before I decide whether or not to see this movie. The coming attractions really don't sell me on it yet. My Brother loves the show but admits that it is hard to get into.

I would love for there to be a BATTLESTAR GALACTICA MOVIE, of the new series of course. The original series was good for children but silly for anyone older than 14. :p

[HomerJSimpson]

They killed the series with that last one. Hopefully with the newer AvP the good name of Aliens can be "resurrected" again (like the pun) ;)





Ummmmmm....no. AvP was a silly popcorn movie. Good for what it was, but no where in the league of Alien/Aliens.

[-Mojo Jojo-]

Hell, I don't think Joss Whedon liked Alien Resurrection...

[WrongWay]

I don't understand the clips I have been seeing of this movie.

I always thought Fire FLy was a rip off of Cowboy Beebop, but the clips look nothing like what I was expecting.

Also, Seems like there should be 2 lost episodes from the FireFly series as most studios make 16 episodes for new shows.

[DanGarion]

I don't understand the clips I have been seeing of this movie.

I always thought Fire FLy was a rip off of Cowboy Beebop, but the clips look nothing like what I was expecting.

Also, Seems like there should be 2 lost episodes from the FireFly series as most studios make 16 episodes for new shows.


There are 13 episodes. 2 were not aired.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Bump.

Only two days until the movie opens.

[ice4277]

Bump.

Only two days until the movie opens.
Yep, I'm getting pretty excited for this.

[gi]

Trying to squeeze in all the episodes for my GF before we see the movie on Friday. Looking forward to the movie. Anyone see any reviews out for it yet?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Trying to squeeze in all the episodes for my GF before we see the movie on Friday. Looking forward to the movie. Anyone see any reviews out for it yet?
There's a handful already up at www.rottentomatoes.com (http://www.rottentomatoes.com) and many more can be found at www.aintitcoolnews.com (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com)

[gi]

There's a handful already up at www.rottentomatoes.com (http://www.rottentomatoes.com) and many more can be found at www.aintitcoolnews.com (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com)
So far it reviews like I expected. A gift to the fans, newcomers will be slightly confused. Joss also seems to have gone light on introducing characters to newcomers. I'll be selfishly enjoying it I'm sure.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Bumpity bump!

Movie opens today.

A solid 77% fresh (according to rottentomatoes.com) from the critics.

Go see this film.

[gi]

Local Detroit papers gave this movie great reviews. Seeing it tonight.

[WrongWay]

I just don't understand all the advertising I have beeb seeing for this movie.

No offense, but what can the studio expect to make off a TV series that didn't even run for 12 episodes? I will be buying my ticket this weekend as I was a fan when the show was on, but I just don't get it. I am confused on why the Studio is spending so much money on ads. I would understand if it was at #1 this weekend and then the studio started a blitz campaign, but not before. The inhouse reviews must have been through the roof.

[gi]

I just don't understand all the advertising I have beeb seeing for this movie.

No offense, but what can the studio expect to make off a TV series that didn't even run for 12 episodes? I will be buying my ticket this weekend as I was a fan when the show was on, but I just don't get it. I am confused on why the Studio is spending so much money on ads. I would understand if it was at #1 this weekend and then the studio started a blitz campaign, but not before. The inhouse reviews must have been through the roof.
I've had a raised eyebrow towards the amount of advertisment this movie has received. I'm not complaining, but just amazed that they are pushing it so much. Maybe they feel they can make a franchinse out of this.

[HomerJSimpson]

I've had a raised eyebrow towards the amount of advertisment this movie has received. I'm not complaining, but just amazed that they are pushing it so much. Maybe they feel they can make a franchinse out of this.


They do, and there is a good chance they will. I think early buzz on this was so big that they wanted to try and push this into a huge opening. It is odd they would do this in October, though (not the biggest movie month). I predict (without knowing what the top gross was) this movie will come close to breaking the top boxoffice gross ever for October.

[WrongWay]

It is odd they would do this in October, though (not the biggest movie month). I predict (without knowing what the top gross was) this movie will come close to breaking the top boxoffice gross ever for October.
The biggest ever??? I seriously doubt this. MAybe the biggest Sci-Fi movie opening in the first weekend of Ocoober.

The october opeing is pretty smart as you would not want this movie comming out when there were some major blockbusters also opening the same week as it would probably get lost. What else is opeing this weekend?

[HomerJSimpson]

The biggest ever??? I seriously doubt this. MAybe the biggest Sci-Fi movie opening in the first weekend of Ocoober.

The october opeing is pretty smart as you would not want this movie comming out when there were some major blockbusters also opening the same week as it would probably get lost. What else is opeing this weekend?


Bigegest for October is what I said. I'll stick to it.

[gi]

History of Violence open yet?

[HomerJSimpson]

BTW, biggest weekend for October is "Scary Movie 3" at 48 million. Totally do-able.

[TazFTW]

Not on 2188 screens it isn't.

[WrongWay]

BTW, biggest weekend for October is "Scary Movie 3" at 48 million. Totally do-able.
Funny, when I was typing that I was predicting it would open at under $50.

[HomerJSimpson]

Not on 2188 screens it isn't.


Is it really opening with that few screens? That's about 1,100 under SM3. Your right, no way it could do it with that limited a opening.

[TazFTW]

Is it really opening with that few screens? That's about 1,100 under SM3. Your right, no way it could do it with that limited a opening.
http://boxofficemojo.com/counts/chart/?yr=2005&wk=39&p=.htm

Scary Movie 3 opened in a little over 3500 screens and the week before Halloween.

[Honolulu_Blue]

History of Violence open yet?
Opens tonight as well. It's received amazing reviews. Looking forward to seeing it.

[gi]

Opens tonight as well. It's received amazing reviews. Looking forward to seeing it. If it wasn't for Serenity, I'd be seeing this tonight. Alas, it will have to wait for now.

[Honolulu_Blue]

If it wasn't for Serenity, I'd be seeing this tonight. Alas, it will have to wait for now.
Agreed. Though since Lady H_B can't see "History of Violence" (she doesn't like the violence), I will have to schedule this one delicately. But it's tough to pass up a Cronenberg film with Vigo, Maria Bello, and Ed Harris.

[WrongWay]

Huh, THE GREATEST GAME EVER PLAYED will only be opeing on a 1,000 and some screens. I thought a feal good movie like that would of done some bigger numbers.

Also, this is week 2 for the history of violence.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Huh, THE GREATEST GAME EVER PLAYED will only be opeing on a 1,000 and some screens. I thought a feal good movie like that would of done some bigger numbers.
Is The Great Game Ever Played that golf movie? If so, it looks really bad and horribly over directed. That's what I could gather from the trailers. I also fail to find golf to be all that dramatic or important, despite how much I liked "Happy Gilmour" and "Caddyshack" and thought "Tin Cup" was ok.

[gi]

Is The Great Game Ever Played that golf movie? If so, it looks really bad and horribly over directed. That's what I could gather from the trailers. I also fail to find golf to be all that dramatic or important, despite how much I liked "Happy Gilmour" and "Caddyshack" and thought "Tin Cup" was ok.
Doom?

[WrongWay]

Bigegest for October is what I said. I'll stick to it.
I have a dollar says it doesn't beat the Scuba flick Into the Blue. :D

[WrongWay]

Is The Great Game Ever Played that golf movie? If so, it looks really bad and horribly over directed. That's what I could gather from the trailers. I also fail to find golf to be all that dramatic or important, despite how much I liked "Happy Gilmour" and "Caddyshack" and thought "Tin Cup" was ok.
I think the HBO movie Dead, Solid Perfect is the greatest Golf movie of all time.

I also liked the Bobby Jones Story, put out by the Bobby Jones society. Especially if you watch The Legend of Bagger Vance after it.

[sachmo71]

I think the HBO movie Dead, Solid Perfect is the greatest Golf movie of all time.

I also liked the Bobby Jones Story, put out by the Bobby Jones society. Especially if you watch The Legend of Bagger Vance after it.


Even I enjoyed that movie, and I fucking hate golf.

[HomerJSimpson]

I have a dollar says it doesn't beat the Scuba flick Into the Blue. :D


ITB is opening on several hundred more screens. I'll still take the bet.

[ice4277]

Well, I saw it this afternoon, and I thought it was pretty good. A couple surprising things happened, but overall, a movie I would definitely recommend to any fan of Firefly.

If you haven't watched the TV show, though, I'd recommend seeing some TV episodes before the movie.

[JeffR]

Saw it today; hadn't watched the series. I enjoyed the movie, but the people putting it in the same category as the first Star Wars are getting a little carried away. The acting didn't really blow me away; the 'Buffy' cast did a much better job handling the lines Whedon wrote for them. In fact, I guess it's sort of the direct opposite of Star Wars - a so-so cast doing a clumsy job with good dialogue vs. a good cast making the most of Lucas's crappy dialogue.

Liked the overall look of the movie much more than the shiny, plastic special effects of Episodes I-III, though.

[gi]

Just got back from seeing it. Thought it was a great first film by Joss. I thought the acting was above average. I still think the concept works better on TV, but the transition to the big screen has potential too. Hopefully we can see more of this 'verse.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I just got back. I thought it was great. The concept certainly works better as a series, because the characters are just so great that you want to spend time with them. 2 hours every couple of years just will never cut it.

I thought the acting was quite good, in particular, the main bad guy really impressed me. I enjoyed how the kept the complexity with the characters, especially Mal's moral complexity. A well-written movie.

That initial shot with the two fleets going head-to-head was a thing of pure beauty...

[Honolulu_Blue]

Saw it today; hadn't watched the series. I enjoyed the movie, but the people putting it in the same category as the first Star Wars are getting a little carried away.
I haven't hear that. That is crazy. This is a much smaller movie. Nowhere near the impact of the original Star Wars trilogy.

As for the second trilogy, Eps 1-3, this move blows them away. Then again, Battle Beyond The Stars was better than those crap-fests.

[MikeVic]

Saw it tonight too, and loved it. I hope the story is continued somehow.

[gi]

I just got back. I thought it was great. The concept certainly works better as a series, because the characters are just so great that you want to spend time with them. 2 hours every couple of years just will never cut it.

I thought the acting was quite good, in particular, the main bad guy really impressed me. I enjoyed how the kept the complexity with the characters, especially Mal's moral complexity. A well-written movie.

That initial shot with the two fleets going head-to-head was a thing of pure beauty...
I agree, you just want to slowly sip every character until you know them like a brother or sister.

The bad guy kinda reminded me of the bad guy from the last episode. I enjoyed how they protrayed him and with the hints they gave we now know what the Shephard was prior to being a Shephard.

Joss said Mal would be darker and I thought we saw that. Loved it.

I loved the major ship battle...great sights!

[RendeR]

... Then again, Battle Beyond The Stars was better than those crap-fests.



Ok NOW yer just being bitter.

[RendeR]

DOLA:

I have to admit, when i saw the episodes I did when teh TV show first came out I thought it was complete crap. There was no backstory, no way to put the characters into any sort of perspective to one another.

HOWEVER, having watched the marathon on Sci-Fi channel this week and catching the Friday night episode, I have to say I'm growing to really care about the characters. Its like the same effect I had with Star Trek, THe Next Generation, teh first two entire seasons were total shit, but after that they really wrote better episodes and made you care about the people on the ship. Firefly is affecting me the same way. As I watch it more and more the episodes make SO much more sense (having now learned the backstory from seeing the episodes in order) and I'm finding the show to be quite entertaining and even a little refreshing from the more hard-core sci-fi shows I normally watch.

I'll keep my eye on this one.

[Honolulu_Blue]

DOLA:

I have to admit, when i saw the episodes I did when teh TV show first came out I thought it was complete crap. There was no backstory, no way to put the characters into any sort of perspective to one another.

HOWEVER, having watched the marathon on Sci-Fi channel this week and catching the Friday night episode, I have to say I'm growing to really care about the characters. Its like the same effect I had with Star Trek, THe Next Generation, teh first two entire seasons were total shit, but after that they really wrote better episodes and made you care about the people on the ship. Firefly is affecting me the same way. As I watch it more and more the episodes make SO much more sense (having now learned the backstory from seeing the episodes in order) and I'm finding the show to be quite entertaining and even a little refreshing from the more hard-core sci-fi shows I normally watch.

I'll keep my eye on this one.
I never watched it when it originally aired because I was living in Europe at the time. But a good friend of mine had the exact same reaction. He's big Buffy/Angel fan and said he tried to watch Firefly but it just didn't do anything for him.

So I sat him down and we started watching the show on DVD from the first episode forward. He was blown away. He loved it. The show (and movie) is complete character driven. The action and dialogue are fun, but what makes the show so special are the characters and their inter-relationships. The first episode establishes that and each following episode builds on it. Fox did the show an amazing diservice. It's really incredible just how badly they appeared to go out of their way to fuck it up.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Ok NOW yer just being bitter.
Yes. I am. I am a bitter, bitter man.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Oh yes... Despite how much I enjoyed the movie, and without giving any spoilers away, I'd like give a big "F YOU!" to Joss Whedon. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif

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[RendeR]

Oh yes... Despite how much I enjoyed the movie, and without giving any spoilers away, I'd like give a big "F YOU!" to Joss Whedon. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gifhttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif

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?????

[Honolulu_Blue]

?????
He did something that displeased me greatly, but don't want to give anything away.

[HomerJSimpson]

I have a dollar says it doesn't beat the Scuba flick Into the Blue. :D


You're going to owe me a dollar. Early numbers say that Serenity doubled up ITB. It is still going to open at number two, with Flightplan on top by a little. Looked at those per screen numbers, though. They are going to be sorry they didn't open this with more screens.

http://www.the-numbers.com/charts/today.html

[ISiddiqui]

Looked at those per screen numbers, though. They are going to be sorry they didn't open this with more screens.

http://www.the-numbers.com/charts/today.htmlSame thing with "History of Violence" which opened on far fewer screens! A $12 million opening (or around that) weekend isn't that bad, but it doesn't look like it'll get over $50 million gross in total. Good showing, but not overwhelming.

Haven't seen it. Will eventually, but my best friend, who I go see movies with, hated the show (doesn't like sci-fi in general actually).

Firefly was a fun show, but not the be all and end all that some fanboi are making it out to be. I'll watch the movie, but maybe a few weeks in.

[Honolulu_Blue]

You're going to owe me a dollar. Early numbers say that Serenity doubled up ITB. It is still going to open at number two, with Flightplan on top by a little. Looked at those per screen numbers, though. They are going to be sorry they didn't open this with more screens.

http://www.the-numbers.com/charts/today.html
Not great numbers. I guess it's not too surprising. The theater I saw it was pretty well attended (90% capacity or so), but it seemed like that vast majority of those folks were die hard fans. Not sure how many folks outside that group will end up seeing the movie. It's a shame, because it's really quite good. Though I have no idea how someone who is totally unfamiliar with the series would view it.

[gi]

Though I have no idea how someone who is totally unfamiliar with the series would view it.
8 people in my group never saw the TV show and 6 out of 8 really enjoyed it. Not too bad.

[ISiddiqui]

Sci-fi is also a niche genre, so sometimes its hard to appeal to people who normally wouldn't do sci-fi. It'd have to have big explosions/special effects or be an Oscar contender or something.

[Celeval]

Wife and I went to see it, hadn't seen the show (although considered it, just never fit into our schedule at the time). Both loved it, may go see it again with friends.

[stevew]

I predict (without knowing what the top gross was) this movie will come close to breaking the top boxoffice gross ever for October.
You might be a little off here dude.

[Cringer]

I am surprised there is this muc talk about this movie. The preview I saw in the theater a little while ago made the movie look dumb and pretty cheesy. And I am a sucker for sci-fi movies. Since I stopped renting movies because all we have left is Blockbuster and Hollywood video, I will wait for HBO.

[gi]

I am surprised there is this muc talk about this movie. The preview I saw in the theater a little while ago made the movie look dumb and pretty cheesy. And I am a sucker for sci-fi movies. Since I stopped renting movies because all we have left is Blockbuster and Hollywood video, I will wait for HBO.
I think it would be a low risk to see this movie after talking to my friends that never saw the show and enjoyed the movie. Enjoying Sci-fi movies should make this movie at least a decent entertainment investment for you.

Just my opinion.

[stevew]

I am surprised there is this muc talk about this movie. The preview I saw in the theater a little while ago made the movie look dumb and pretty cheesy. And I am a sucker for sci-fi movies. Since I stopped renting movies because all we have left is Blockbuster and Hollywood video, I will wait for HBO.
Yeah, i agree with you.

[MikeVic]

I am surprised there is this muc talk about this movie. The preview I saw in the theater a little while ago made the movie look dumb and pretty cheesy. And I am a sucker for sci-fi movies. Since I stopped renting movies because all we have left is Blockbuster and Hollywood video, I will wait for HBO.

Don't judge a book by it's cover. ;)

[Honolulu_Blue]

I am surprised there is this muc talk about this movie. The preview I saw in the theater a little while ago made the movie look dumb and pretty cheesy. And I am a sucker for sci-fi movies. Since I stopped renting movies because all we have left is Blockbuster and Hollywood video, I will wait for HBO.
I thought the previews of "Phantom Menace" and "Revenge of The Sith" made those movies look pretty awesome. Same for "Godzilla" and "Armegaddon" and "Pearl Harbor." 'Nuff said, no?

According to Rotten Tomatoes 80% of the critics like the movie and, so far, everyone who posts here and who has seen has liked it. Given those recs and since you're a "sucker for sci-fi movies", I'm surprised you're being so close minded about the whole thing. Eh, each to his own, I suppose.

[Cringer]

I thought the previews of "Phantom Menace" and "Revenge of The Sith" made those movies look pretty awesome. Same for "Godzilla" and "Armegaddon" and "Pearl Harbor." 'Nuff said, no?

According to Rotten Tomatoes 80% of the critics like the movie and, so far, everyone who posts here and who has seen has liked it. Given those recs and since you're a "sucker for sci-fi movies", I'm surprised you're being so close minded about the whole thing. Eh, each to his own, I suppose.

I am not being closed minded, I will see it some day and I may enjoy it. If I do then great.

But, based off of the preview I saw, it just looked pretty bad and cheesy and not worth my money. Based on that and the cast, I kind of figured it wasn't 'block buster' material. If I am wrong I am wrong, I said the talk about this movie here on the board surprised me and I meant it. I just didn't expect much talk about it.....

[Havok]

loved it...... that is all :)

[ISiddiqui]

I am not being closed minded, I will see it some day and I may enjoy it. If I do then great.

But, based off of the preview I saw, it just looked pretty bad and cheesy and not worth my money. Based on that and the cast, I kind of figured it wasn't 'block buster' material. If I am wrong I am wrong, I said the talk about this movie here on the board surprised me and I meant it. I just didn't expect much talk about it.....Well you are dealing with a cult phenomenon (which leads to some to say it'll take the October record for ticket sales ;)). A LOT of people seem to think this (Firefly/Serenity) is the best sci-fi thing ever. I enjoyed the show, but I'm not going to go near that far. In fact the uber-fanboys have cooled me to the series (some realistic outlook would be nice).

It IS a lot of talk for a movie that will gross around $50 million, but when you are in the cult zone, that happens ;).

[MikeVic]

Well you are dealing with a cult phenomenon (which leads to some to say it'll take the October record for ticket sales ;)). A LOT of people seem to think this (Firefly/Serenity) is the best sci-fi thing ever. I enjoyed the show, but I'm not going to go near that far. In fact the uber-fanboys have cooled me to the series (some realistic outlook would be nice).

It IS a lot of talk for a movie that will gross around $50 million, but when you are in the cult zone, that happens ;).

If you like it (as I do), then there's a chance you like it A LOT (as I do). I wanted the movie to be longer, since I can't get enough of these characters and the writing.

[Chief Rum]

Went and saw this tonight. I thought it had some terrific moments, although there was clearly some stuff you have to know fromt he show to really get into it.

I don't know where to place myself in relation to the show. Basically, I enjoyed what episodes I saw on TV, but I didn't see them all, and have never watched the DVD (or seen the series in order). So, yes, familiar with the show and liked the concept. Fanboy? No.

It had the feel of a long TV episode with a huge special effects budget. But I still had a lot of fun without it, and would like to see more of that world/universe.

[HomerJSimpson]

You might be a little off here dude.


We've already went through this. I made the prediction not knowing the number of screens it would open on. It would have been impossible for it to pull that kind of money on so few screens. As it is, it is beating the tar out of other movies with a much wider distribution, and its per screen total suggest it could have had a much bigger opening.

[WrongWay]

Yeah, but I would also assume it is playing on all the "Big Screens" or in all the Big Rooms. Some of these rooms can hold up to 5 times the people of there multiplex counter parts.

Also, I will wait to see the Saturday numbers untill throwing in the towel. Friday should of been a big night for all the Firefly diehards out there.

Any idea why you don't see any Firefly connections to the movie in there adds? Seems like a lot of people who have never heard of FireFly may of wanted to buy the DVD set after seeing the movie.

[sabotai]

Went to see it last night and thought it was great. The one thing I didn't like with the movie is probably the same thing that got HB all worked up. Without giving it away, it was totally unnecessary. But, overall, a great movie. Probably the best sci-fi movie from the past several years (but definately not "best sci-fi thing ever")

[Honolulu_Blue]

Went to see it last night and thought it was great. The one thing I didn't like with the movie is probably the same thing that got HB all worked up. Without giving it away, it was totally unnecessary. But, overall, a great movie. Probably the best sci-fi movie from the past several years (but definately not "best sci-fi thing ever")
Yeah, a great movie, but not the best sci-fi thing ever. Original Star Wars, Alien/Aliens certainly top it.

As for that one thing, I read an interview with Joss Whedon where he explained why it happened. A good explanation, but still...

[ISiddiqui]

Hmmm... there is an idea... we haven't had a thread on which is better, Alien or Aliens have we? Maybe we have and I was just gone/drunk/drowning in a ditch... who knows? That could be fun...

Oh, carry on.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Hmmm... there is an idea... we haven't had a thread on which is better, Alien or Aliens have we? Maybe we have and I was just gone/drunk/drowning in a ditch... who knows? That could be fun...

Oh, carry on.
I don't think we have around here. It's a tough one. Both a great movies, but Alien is more of a horror flick, while Aliens is certainly more of an action flick. Both are top notch examples of their respective genre. It's a sort of apples to oranges scenario...

Though, when it comes down to it, I am going with Aliens every time. One of my favorite movies ever.

[sabotai]

Hmmm... there is an idea... we haven't had a thread on which is better, Alien or Aliens have we? Maybe we have and I was just gone/drunk/drowning in a ditch... who knows? That could be fun...

Oh, carry on.
That's easy. Alien.

[ISiddiqui]

LOL! Great two posts in a row :).

[-Mojo Jojo-]

Saw the film on Friday. I wasn't sure how well I liked it coming out of the theater, but it's growing on me as I have time to reflect on it. I'm not disturbed by H_B's issue, although it definitely gave me a :eek: :eek: . It was just symbolic of the fact that this movie was a real departure from Firefly, took it in a much darker direction... which I'm starting to think might be a good thing.

In any case, it was an awesome film. Loads of humor, action, adventure, gratuitous violence, and human drama. Good stuff. I'm planning to go again next week.

I just hope we can get enough people to see this thing to get sequels made. I'm curious to see where the show goes from here.

[sabotai]

So far, according to Yahoo, it's just over the $10 million mark.

[HomerJSimpson]

So far, according to Yahoo, it's just over the $10 million mark.


That is weird. It had a worse Saturday than it did Friday. I don't think I've ever seen that.

[sabotai]

That is weird. It had a worse Saturday than it did Friday. I don't think I've ever seen that.
I think Yahoo might have been estimating Sunday and adding it on. I looked at a different site and it looks to be around $7.5 million (and estimated 2.5 for Sunday giving it 10 million)

[RendeR]

I don't think we have around here. It's a tough one. Both a great movies, but Alien is more of a horror flick, while Aliens is certainly more of an action flick. Both are top notch examples of their respective genre. It's a sort of apples to oranges scenario...

Though, when it comes down to it, I am going with Aliens every time. One of my favorite movies ever.


Since I'm not going to be able to afford to see it anytime soon, can you fill me in VIA PM please? I'd love to know what got you all worked up =)

[stevew]

That is weird. It had a worse Saturday than it did Friday. I don't think I've ever seen that.
Usually happens to genre films and cult ones. Jay and Silent Bob was that way

[RendeR]

Usually happens to genre films and cult ones. Jay and Silent Bob was that way


Yeah but jay and SIlent bob was a completely awful movie. I doubt Serenity is nearly that bad. I'm betting the lack of back-story knowledge is hurting ticket sales a bit.

[Flame Eater]

How do I get out of this chicken-shit outfit, man!?!

[sachmo71]

Yeah but jay and SIlent bob was a completely awful movie. I doubt Serenity is nearly that bad. I'm betting the lack of back-story knowledge is hurting ticket sales a bit.


I disagree. For the subject matter, Jay an Silent Bob was a decent flick.

[stevew]

Yeah but jay and SIlent bob was a completely awful movie. I doubt Serenity is nearly that bad. I'm betting the lack of back-story knowledge is hurting ticket sales a bit.
That's just an example, regardless of quality.

[WrongWay]

I disagree. For the subject matter, Jay an Silent Bob was a decent flick.
For what would that be? It had all the Plot of a Porn movie. :D

[sachmo71]

For what would that be? It had all the Plot of a Porn movie. :D


Well, it had James Vanderbeek. I doubt people will know who was in 10 years.

[MikeVic]

I saw it again, this time with my sister and my mom... different kind of audience besides me. My sister has seen 2 episodes and loved the movie, and my mom has seen the series but also loved the movie.

Just trying to get more people intersted, regardless of previous universe knowledge. :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

This sort of puts the somewhat disappointing opening numbers for "Serenity" into perspective...

The sci-fi western swooped into 2,200 screens, thrilled the "Firefly (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/firefly_the_complete_series/)" fans ... and caught the eye of practically nobody else. With strong reviews and positive water-cooler banter, the flick could see an improvement, but hey ... the thing cost $40 million and it made a quarter of that in three days, so you Whedonites can take your heads out of the oven.

[Jesse_Ewiak]

A couple of quick points of the box office...

A. This was within Universal's expectations. They didn't expect a 25 million dollar opening.
B. Still the foreign markets to open to. 20 mill here + 20 mill overseas = Into the black.
C. This movie will go in the black via DVD sales guaranteed due to the devotion of the Browncoats/Whedonites.
D. If Whedon's Wonder Woman and Goners both ge to the screen and hit big, he'd have the clout to make a sequel three-four years down the line.
E. Most sci-fi films do drop Friday-to-Saturday.

[Raiders Army]

Jay and Silent Bob is an awesome movie.

Aliens is better than Alien.

[WrongWay]

Capote blows every one out of the water on a per screen basis. I will be cathing this when it comes to DVD as I was a fan of the movie In Cold Blood. No way does it make it's way to my neck of the woods.

Weekend Top 10 By Theater Gross Movie Gross Theaters Per Theater Total Gross Days

1 Capote $27,071
2 Little Manhattan $18,199
3 The War Within $7,540
4 MirrorMask $7,025
5 A History of Violence $6,047
6 Proof $4,801
7 My Big Fat Independent Movie $4,655
8 Serenity $4,610
9 Flightplan $4,324
10 The Prize Winner of Defiance, Ohio $3,879


It also looks to me like History of Violence will make the most money for movies released this week in total.

BTW-- No way does Serenity make back it's $40+ million anytime soon. And the interest begins piling up.

[RendeR]

Capote blows every one out of the water on a per screen basis. I will be cathing this when it comes to DVD as I was a fan of the movie In Cold Blood. No way does it make it's way to my neck of the woods.



It also looks to me like History of Violence will make the most money for movies released this week in total.

BTW-- No way does Serenity make back it's $40+ million anytime soon. And the interest begins piling up.


Actually, at 4.6 K gross per day showing it should only take a week to make back its 40 million total. 2k+theatres, thats over 8 million per day/showing. given the fact that some days will weaken a bit I say it makes back its 40 million in less than 10 days total run time.

[ISiddiqui]

Actually, at 4.6 K gross per day showing it should only take a week to make back its 40 million total. 2k+theatres, thats over 8 million per day/showing. given the fact that some days will weaken a bit I say it makes back its 40 million in less than 10 days total run time.I SERIOUSLY doubt it'll do that. It will not get to $40 Mil in 10 days. I say it'll be more like 3 months. Movies that do not open up with a huge opening weekend don't make a lot of money during the week. The majority of the money for all movies is, obviously, weekends. I don't see it getting anywhere near $4 mil (which is how much it basically made on Saturday) on weekdays and next weekend, I think it follows the path of other movies and drops almost in half.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Capote blows every one out of the water on a per screen basis. I will be cathing this when it comes to DVD as I was a fan of the movie In Cold Blood. No way does it make it's way to my neck of the woods.



It also looks to me like History of Violence will make the most money for movies released this week in total.

BTW-- No way does Serenity make back it's $40+ million anytime soon. And the interest begins piling up.
I don't think it will make a lot of money internationally either. I wouldn't be all that surprised if it weren't released in some countries. I doubt the TV show was even aired in most of them.

It will probably make a decent amount on DVD sales, but that will be about it.

It could, maybe, make back the $40 million, but that doesn't include the money spent on advertizing and marketing. It's domestic release is unlikely to get above $20-$25 million.

No real prospects for a sequel. It's a shame. Great movie. A easily one of the best sci-fi series ever on TV. Oh well.

Well, there's that old saying "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." That's cetainly true, but people have gone broke over-estimating it.

[stevew]

I SERIOUSLY doubt it'll do that. It will not get to $40 Mil in 10 days. I say it'll be more like 3 months. Movies that do not open up with a huge opening weekend don't make a lot of money during the week. The majority of the money for all movies is, obviously, weekends. I don't see it getting anywhere near $4 mil (which is how much it basically made on Saturday) on weekdays and next weekend, I think it follows the path of other movies and drops almost in half.
Yeah, its something like 3-4 times the opening weekend gross that a movie makes on average for its total theatre run. Sometimes its way more or way less, depending on if a movie has award nominations, etc. This one looks to cap out around 40 million.

[WrongWay]

Yeah, its something like 3-4 times the opening weekend gross that a movie makes on average for its total theatre run. Sometimes its way more or way less, depending on if a movie has award nominations, etc. This one looks to cap out around 40 million.
I would say it's huge Friday then big drop Saturday reflects its cult status. I think "Cult" movies like this end up with below the 3-4 times once their die hard fans see it the first Weekend.

[sabotai]

I would say it's huge Friday then big drop Saturday reflects its cult status.
Big drop? Friday it pulled in $3,949,340 on Friday and $3,741,480 on Saturday (hxxp://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2005-10-01&p=.htm). That's hardly a drop at all (and hardly a "huge Friday" either).

[HomerJSimpson]

Big drop? Friday it pulled in $3,949,340 on Friday and $3,741,480 on Saturday (hxxp://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2005-10-01&p=.htm). That's hardly a drop at all (and hardly a "huge Friday" either).


It is a huge drop when Saturday tickets usually come close to doubling Friday sales in a normal movie. To go down is really bad.

[sabotai]

It is a huge drop when Saturday tickets usually come close to doubling Friday sales in a normal movie. To go down is really bad.
Oh I see. It's like the RIAA saying they had a "huge drop" in record sales, not because it was a "huge drop", but because they didn't increase at the same rate as previous years. Got it. :D

[HomerJSimpson]

Oh I see. It's like the RIAA saying they had a "huge drop" in record sales, not because it was a "huge drop", but because they didn't increase at the same rate as previous years. Got it. :D


Yeah, it is like a federal budget "cut" where the budget only goes up 8% instead of the standard 10%.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The first 9 minutes of the movie is up on the web for free. I just watched it. Very good quality video.

http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/index.html

Enjoy.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Well, at least the Brits seem to have some taste. Though, granted, the four weeks prior do cast some doubt on that assertion.



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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IIMA --><!-- S SF -->Sci-fi film Serenity has ended Pride and Prejudice's four-week reign at the top of the UK film chart.

Serenity, created by Buffy the Vampire Slayer mastermind Joss Whedon, took almost £960,000 in its first weekend.

Pride and Prejudice, starring Keira Knightley, dropped to second place with weekend earnings of £907,000, taking its UK total to £11.4m.

Roman Polanski's adaptation of Oliver Twist entered at number three and A History of Violence fell to four. <!-- E SF -->

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1. Serenity
2. Pride and Prejudice
3. Oliver Twist
4. A History of Violence
5. Kinky Boots

Source: Screen International
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- E IBOX -->A History of Violence is being tipped by some critics for Oscar success next year.

Directed by David Cronenberg and starring Viggo Mortensen, it tells the story of a family man whose past catches up with him. British comedy Kinky Boots entered the chart at number five with box office receipts of £623,000. Other films in the top 10 included Four Brothers, starring Mark Wahlberg, at six, and Goal!, which fell from three to seven. Russian fantasy Night Watch was another new entry at eight.<!-- E BO -->

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[-Mojo Jojo-]

Too bad the UK market isn't worth piss. Things are looking pretty grim for sequels...

[Honolulu_Blue]

Too bad the UK market isn't worth piss. Things are looking pretty grim for sequels...
Agreed. Around 1 million pounds is about US $1.7 million. That's nothing.

[SFL Cat]

Never cared much for the show, but the movie was pretty good.

[RendeR]

Ok, as I've said before, I hated the show when it first got released. This appears to have been due solely to FOX's unmitigated raping of the series on TV.

I sat down a couple weeks back and watched the marathon on Sci-Fi channel, and have been watching the friday night episodes as well. I also went to see the Movie last weekend.

I have to admit, that after immersing myself in it, I love the whole storyline. I think the whole "old West" stuff is seriously overblown and even a bit misplaced, but they tend to make it work. I still dislike some of the acting, but overall I am now a fan.

As for the movie....HOLY SHIT. Excellent film. As a Sci-Fi fanatic I will definitely own the movie on dvd at some point. Seriously fantastic wayu to spend a couple hours. THe effects on the reavers ships and the entire movie really were top notch. Knowing the backstory makes a HUGE difference in how you will enjoy it as well.

I'm betting Sci-Fi buys up the production rights and makes another original Series. At least I'm hoping they do. Between BSG (still the single best tv series ever made) and Firefly, my life tv-wise would only be completed by someone pulling Babylon 5 out of moth balls and doing the show right from the beginning again.

[Hammer755]

I saw Serenity this weekend despite having never seen the series. I wouldn't call myself a Sci-Fi fan, necessarily, but I thought the movie was pretty good. I wish I would have known about the marathon in September so I could have TiVo'd it. I guess I'll try to have to find the series at Blockbuster or Hollywood Video (fat chance!) since I'm not a member of Netflix Nation.

The day after I saw the movie, I sat down with my kids to watch Toy Story and saw Whedon's name credited as one of the authors of the screenplay. I thought maybe it wasn't the same guy, so I checked IMDB and, sure enough, it is him. In addition to the Buffy/Firefly/Alien stuff, he also helped write TS & several episodes of Roseanne.

[mauchow]

Wow! I just watched all 12 episodes of Firefly in a matter of about 40 hours. Whew! That was fun! Very excellent show and I can't wait to watch the movie now.

I loved the whole premise. Each episode was different, and well, excellent. I especially liked the Hero of Canton!!!! Whew! I'll have to save another weekend to watch them all again soon!

[Malificent]

I saw Serenity this weekend despite having never seen the series. I wouldn't call myself a Sci-Fi fan, necessarily, but I thought the movie was pretty good. I wish I would have known about the marathon in September so I could have TiVo'd it. I guess I'll try to have to find the series at Blockbuster or Hollywood Video (fat chance!) since I'm not a member of Netflix Nation.

The day after I saw the movie, I sat down with my kids to watch Toy Story and saw Whedon's name credited as one of the authors of the screenplay. I thought maybe it wasn't the same guy, so I checked IMDB and, sure enough, it is him. In addition to the Buffy/Firefly/Alien stuff, he also helped write TS & several episodes of Roseanne.

He was also an uncredited script doctor on Speed.

[Bonegavel]

Just picked up the DVD (didn't go to the theatre) and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

I was disappointed in a few things that were hinted at by HB, and am currently scouring the internet for reasons why Whedon did what he did.

Oh, and for the record, I hate(d) buffy the series (loved the movie and Kristy Swanson **tiger growl**).

[Honolulu_Blue]

Just picked up the DVD (didn't go to the theatre) and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.

I was disappointed in a few things that were hinted at by HB, and am currently scouring the internet for reasons why Whedon did what he did.

Oh, and for the record, I hate(d) buffy the series (loved the movie and Kristy Swanson **tiger growl**).
Woah. Never heard anyone who loved the Buffy movie but hated the series. Well, I guess there's always someone out there. http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/wink.gif

To save you the trouble Whedon said he did what he did in order to prevent the last 30 minutes of the movie being nothing more than a bunch of noise and violence. Or something along those lines. He wanted to put people on edge and give that last sequence some impact.

[Crapshoot]

I loved the Firefly series (picked it up on DVD and watched it - missed it when it was initially released) and liked Serenity - a lot. I'm not a typical Wheldon fan, but I'm damn irritated at Fox's ability to find the screwball, intelligent stuff I like (Firefly, AD, Futurama, etc) and then get rid of in favor of the reality show du jour - or a comedy with a laughtrack. Here's hoping the DVD sales make bring back the show a worthwhile option, though I wonder if that thing has long since rolled on.

[sachmo71]

Got the DVD for Christmas and was finally able to watch it tonight. The beginning had me a bit nervous, but I enjoyed the movie very much. Could be the fan-boy in me, but I think it got stronger as it progressed. Interesting idea, but I'm trying to figure out how the problem got from the surface of the planet into space...but still, it was a good flick. Anyone know if there are talks of another movie?

[Tigercat]

The talk I've heard is that the DVD's are selling very well, and the projections are that the movie will make money in the long run. Not enough to make another movie a real possibility, but enough to keep the nail away from the coffin.

Which is good to hear, because before the DVD hit the shleves Whedon was eluding to the fact that the poor theater showing had sealed Firefly's fate.

[Honolulu_Blue]

but I'm trying to figure out how the problem got from the surface of the planet into space...but still, it was a good flick.
**SPOILERS BELOW**














This is a problem I always had with the Reavers in general. I think the concept is a good one and terrifying and very well executed in the show and movie. I just could never reoncile the Reavers' apparent nature consisting of self-mutilation, cannibalism, rape, murder, etc, etc, etc. and actually being to fly ships and, more importantly, keep ships in the air. Who are the Reaver mechanics?

I think the movie did a decent job of explaining it. The Reavers could have gotten off the planet by using ships that were on Miranda. They kill, rape, eat, or whatever everyone on the planet, realize there is no more prey, get in the ships and look for more. Since what caused people to be Reavers was was a reaction to that drug, it's possible that the Reavers are able to think clearly enough to fly ships and maintain them. Once their fight/flight response kicks in (i.e., once they see "prey"), they go all savage and out of control. That seemed to be how they were reacting in space. The main "fleet" was just sort of orbiting out there until Mal shot at one of them. Then they went rabid.

[st.cronin]

Me and my longtime female companion went to see this movie a while back (sci fi being her thing, although she hadn't seen the show), and she liked it a lot, so I bought her the Firefly dvd set for xmas.

My opinion is that the show was vastly better than the movie. They should forget about doing a sequel to the movie, and bring back the show.

[Honolulu_Blue]

My opinion is that the show was vastly better than the movie. They should forget about doing a sequel to the movie, and bring back the show.
I couldn't agree more. I liked the movie, thought it was good, but loved the show.

[st.cronin]

I couldn't agree more. I liked the movie, thought it was good, but loved the show.

The movie was ok. I felt weird because I felt myself rooting for the alliance guy - my emotions were all out of whack.

[sachmo71]

Me and my longtime female companion went to see this movie a while back (sci fi being her thing, although she hadn't seen the show), and she liked it a lot, so I bought her the Firefly dvd set for xmas.

My opinion is that the show was vastly better than the movie. They should forget about doing a sequel to the movie, and bring back the show.

**SPOILER BELOW**




I just don't see why they don't eat one another. The drug makes the homocidal, or past that. Why wouldn't they attack whomever they came into contact with?

[3ric]

My wife asked me that very question - I replied that they must have somehow managed to form a primitive society based on achieving a collective goal (raping/killing). Same answer applies to why cannibalistic tribes don't eat each other, I guess.

[Airhog]

My wife asked me that very question - I replied that they must have somehow managed to form a primitive society based on achieving a collective goal (raping/killing). Same answer applies to why cannibalistic tribes don't eat each other, I guess.

Ive watched a few specials on cannibals, and the impression I recieved was that many cannabalistic tribes do not eat humans for pleasure. Usually it is something very spritual in their beliefs

[Honolulu_Blue]

My wife asked me that very question - I replied that they must have somehow managed to form a primitive society based on achieving a collective goal (raping/killing). Same answer applies to why cannibalistic tribes don't eat each other, I guess.
It could be that or something chemical. Since the onset of the madness was a result of a chemical, perhaps the Reavers can sense one another in some fashion, perhaps a smell or something else.

[sachmo71]

Well, my impression of the drug was that it drove them past rage into a whole new area of total animal aggression and hate, so I can't visualize how they would let anyone exist in their world, but any of these explinations will work. They just don't sit well with me. :)

[Tigercat]

I think you have to look at their condition as being sort of a "spiritual" exsistence. Look at how they treated the guy-who-was-forced-into-reeverhood in the series. They raped and killed all his shipmates and made him watch so he would experience the aggression and violence to such a degree that he became a reever. Hell they may have even kept some of the chemical to initiate propsective members.

But notice in the movie how River talks about "choice" once or twice when referring to "laying down." I think with the chemical we are talking about something whose aftermath isn't as cause and effect as a simple straightforward poisoning. The Reever exsistence is dedicated to a new lifestyle of total aggression against those and that unlike in their ways, but it doesn't kill all complex thought processes.

Reevers were also tearing apart Reevers in the Reever junkyard/armada, so infighting is not nonexsistent apparently.

[Kodos]

SciFi channel is having a Firefly marathon on 1/6, in case anyone wants to catch it.

[Bonegavel]

As for the Reavers in general, I think they were best left as an unknown. Now that the curtain has been pulled back, they don't have the same creep factor as they did.

Just as in Jaws, the shark was far more scary when all you heard was the dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun and saw only the fin.

I had the same problem with them (regarding "how they fly the ship, etc") but I was reminded of the wise sage Joel and one line from the theme song from MST3K


repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax.

edit: to add :D

It was more fun for me to speculate why they were so fearsome. Why did that kid they rescue mutilate himself after only watching them do their horror?

Still, I think their back-story was great. I just preferred them in the unknown column.

[dawgfan]

Saw it yesterday - fun movie, good dialog, pretty good F/X for the budget they had (very good camera work IMO) and I thought Kaylee was quite cute and Inara quite sexy. I'll have to add the Firefly shows to my Netflix que...

[Crapshoot]

Bought the series DVD's - hopiing the support means that the show will go on, so to speak. I really, really wish I had a Neilsen box at this point.

[JeeberD]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but this thread made me decide to watch the series on DVD. Great stuff, I'm really loving it. I'm only five episodes in, but last night I watched "Our Mrs Reynolds" and now I am officially in love with Christina Hendricks, aka Saffron. I watched that episode with my fiancee' and I had to be careful not to let her catch me drooling too much...

[Honolulu_Blue]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but this thread made me decide to watch the series on DVD. Great stuff, I'm really loving it. I'm only five episodes in, but last night I watched "Our Mrs Reynolds" and now I am officially in love with Christina Hendricks, aka Saffron. I watched that episode with my fiancee' and I had to be careful not to let her catch me drooling too much...
Glad to hear you're enjoying it, Jeebs. Saffron is smokin'. You'll be happy to learn there's more of her in the future. If memory serves me correct, IMO the next few episodes ("Out of Gas", "Ariel", and "War Stories") coming up are some of the best!

[aran]

I'm also a firefly/serenity fan. One of my favorite sci-fi's behind Dune (far behind). I like the universe more than the star wars universe. Somehow it seems more believable and just downright awesome.

[Crapshoot]

Bump
- DVD's are on sale for 20 bucks at Walmart.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2350565&sourceid=31822205882375238028

Btw, Sachmo (or anyone else) - what did you think of the comics ?

[sachmo71]

Bump
- DVD's are on sale for 20 bucks at Walmart.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2350565&sourceid=31822205882375238028

Btw, Sachmo (or anyone else) - what did you think of the comics ?


LOL @ Out of Stock!!!

I haven't read the comics, and I have to be honest, I'm avoiding them. I just don't need to open that particular pandora's box again. :)

[JeeberD]

Saw the movie the other night, it made me sad... :(

I'll post more when I have time.

[MikeVic]

< SPOILERS of the comic!!!!>







If you mean the 3-issue mini series, it was good. Felt like I was reading an episode. :) Helped to know that Inara and Book were off the ship, which was shown in the comics. Also showed the fate of the men with blue hands, and showed a brief shot of the bad guy from the movie.













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[Honolulu_Blue]

Saw the movie the other night, it made me sad... :(

I know how you feel, Jeebs. I felt the exact same way when I first saw it. I was numb for the last half hour.

[cthomer5000]

I've avoided reading this thread as best I can.

I'd never seen the show before, and just started watching it this weekend. I'm really regretting the fact that I didn't get into it at the time. It's a terrific show!

Solid blend of comedy, sci-fi (which I'm always on-board for), and some western elements. I look forward to finishing the series up and watching the movie.

[Flame Eater]

Welcome to the Browncoats! Enjoy.

[Crapshoot]

I've avoided reading this thread as best I can.

I'd never seen the show before, and just started watching it this weekend. I'm really regretting the fact that I didn't get into it at the time. It's a terrific show!

Solid blend of comedy, sci-fi (which I'm always on-board for), and some western elements. I look forward to finishing the series up and watching the movie.

Welcome to the club! How far have you gotten (episode wise) ?

[JeeberD]

Enjoy Saffron... :)

[Crapshoot]

Enjoy Saffron... :)

You keep your grubby hands off her Jeebs - she's mine!

[larrymcg421]

Heh. Saffron will use you guys and leave you for dead. Thanks, but I'll take Kaylee.

[Crapshoot]

Heh. Saffron will use you guys and leave you for dead.

Amongst ways to go, that would top the list.

[JeeberD]

Indeed. What a way to go... :)

[JeeberD]

Dola-

Thanks, but I'll take Kaylee.

Was anyone else disappointed in Kaylee when they showed her banging the original mechanic in the engine room? Kaylee is supposed to be a good girl, not an interstellar groupie...

[Crapshoot]

Dola-



Was anyone else disappointed in Kaylee when they showed her banging the original mechanic in the engine room? Kaylee is supposed to be a good girl, not an interstellar groupie...

Well, Kaylee's clearly not the "good girl" in that sense- she often talks about needing some attention, and Simon's the bottleneck in that relationship (I'm not going to mention episodes, since CT's probably not finished with the series). She's a good girl in that she's very friendly/nice type.

[JeeberD]

Well, it seems to me that she the kind of girl that wants to be in a relationship before she gets some "attention". She's mentioned how long it's been for her, so I imagine that if she were just looking to get some action Jane would be more than willing to help... ;)

[cthomer5000]

Welcome to the club! How far have you gotten (episode wise) ?

I just finished Jaynestown (episode 7). At this moment I would say Our Mrs. Reynolds was the best episode (with Saffron), hilarious episode and quite well-acted all-around.

[Crapshoot]

I just finished Jaynestown (episode 7). At this moment I would say Our Mrs. Reynolds was the best episode (with Saffron), hilarious episode and quite well-acted all-around.

Heh - I'm with you. Its probably my favorite as well,though I also like Out of Gas (which is coming up I think) and Jaynestown a lot. There's a cut scene from that on the 4th DVD fyi - apparently, they all loved it, but the episode was already running too long.

[Honolulu_Blue]

My favorite episodes, all which come after Jaynestown (I think) are:

"Out of Gas", "Ariel", and "War Stories".

[Honolulu_Blue]

Dola-



Was anyone else disappointed in Kaylee when they showed her banging the original mechanic in the engine room? Kaylee is supposed to be a good girl, not an interstellar groupie...

Not at all. I thought it was classic. Kaylee may come across as innocent, but I never saw her as a "good girl", or intersteller groupie for that matter. She was in the engine room of a spaceship with an oily bo-hunk of a mechanic, it was near perfect for her.

[Honolulu_Blue]

While, I imagine anyone who still looks at this thread already owns the DVDs, but Amazon is selling the series (Firefly) at half-price at the moment. $24.95

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AQS0F/qid=1143042324/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-2821322-9315821?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130

If you already have it, it could make a great birthday or Easter or Memorial Day or whatever holiday you can think of gift.

[Celeval]

Heh. Saffron will use you guys and leave you for dead. Thanks, but I'll take Kaylee.

Ditto. Kaylee = teh greatest

[hoosierdude]

Ditto. Kaylee = teh greatest

Gotta love a girl that loves to get dirty... :)

[JeeberD]

Gotta love a redhead with big cans... :)

Fixed :)

[cthomer5000]

Well, I finished up the series... It's a great freakin' show. Hearing how badly FOX botched everything relating to it pisses me off. Sometimes it's like networks are actively trying to sink a show.

Has anyone read the comics? Are they essential? Should I check those out before watching the movie?

[Bonegavel]

Was anyone else disappointed in Kaylee when they showed her banging the original mechanic in the engine room? Kaylee is supposed to be a good girl, not an interstellar groupie...

I don't see her as innocent. I just see her as a no-nonsense/no-bullshit kind of girl... kind of like Stuart Redman.

[gkb]

Well, I finished up the series... It's a great freakin' show. Hearing how badly FOX botched everything relating to it pisses me off. Sometimes it's like networks are actively trying to sink a show.

Has anyone read the comics? Are they essential? Should I check those out before watching the movie?

I haven't read the comics, but I've heard that they fill the gap in between the end of the series and the start of the movie. I think reading them before watching the movie is optional.

[Crapshoot]

Well, I finished up the series... It's a great freakin' show. Hearing how badly FOX botched everything relating to it pisses me off. Sometimes it's like networks are actively trying to sink a show.

Has anyone read the comics? Are they essential? Should I check those out before watching the movie?

I've heard they're mediocre (I don't know if Weldon actually wrote themm( - but it might be worth it. FYI, I like the movie, but by its very nature, its more "action" than the show - which kinda sucks IMO.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I've heard they're mediocre (I don't know if Weldon actually wrote themm( - but it might be worth it. FYI, I like the movie, but by its very nature, its more "action" than the show - which kinda sucks IMO.

He did write them. They are ok. Not a bad read at all. I think you can pick it up as a one volume trade paperback which is probably the way to go. They are not necessary to seeing the film, but you can never have too much of the characters.

[Coop]

the comics are not good but they are like 10 bucks at amazon

there is a summary here..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity:_Those_Left_Behind

[cthomer5000]

**movie spoilers****



I know how you feel, Jeebs. I felt the exact same way when I first saw it. I was numb for the last half hour.
Oh man, tell me about it. I was just stunned as the horrible string of events unfolded. I mean, seeing two major characters die?! Youch!

[Honolulu_Blue]

**movie spoilers****




Oh man, tell me about it. I was just stunned as the horrible string of events unfolded. I mean, seeing two major characters die?! Youch!

**MORE SPOILERS**









Book's death was sad, but it was Wash's death that really got me. It was devistating. I mean... He's Wash. Wash! He was the heart of the show. It was gutting...

[Glengoyne]

**movie spoilers****




Oh man, tell me about it. I was just stunned as the horrible string of events unfolded. I mean, seeing two major characters die?! Youch!

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I had originally heard that Book and Wash wouldn't be available for the movie. I was pleasantly surprised to see that at least Wash had managed to make it. When Book died, I thought "OK, they managed to give him a token spot, and wrote him out..well worse things have happened" Then in the final minutes....Wash's death managed to take me completely by suprise. I did manage to think "Hmm, maybe he said he wouldn't be available for a sequel?"

He was one of my favorites, but then again aren't they all. That is the wonder of the show. The writing was truly top notch.

[larrymcg421]

**MORE SPOILERS**









Book's death was sad, but it was Wash's death that really got me. It was devistating. I mean... He's Wash. Wash! He was the heart of the show. It was gutting...

***SPOILERS***

What's really stunning is that Wash is Joss's alter-ego character, much like Xander on Buffy. If I had known a character was going to die, Wash probably would've been one of my last guesses.

[cthomer5000]

**MORE SPOILERS**









Book's death was sad, but it was Wash's death that really got me. It was devistating. I mean... He's Wash. Wash! He was the heart of the show. It was gutting...

Wash didn't seem to be quite himself in the movie... they just didn't give him enough material to work with. An amazing character in the series though. Yeah, that was a total shocker in the movie. BUmmer. :(

[Honolulu_Blue]

**MORE SPOILERS**










Wash didn't seem to be quite himself in the movie... they just didn't give him enough material to work with. An amazing character in the series though. Yeah, that was a total shocker in the movie. BUmmer. :(


Yeah, that kind of thing always happens when you have a movie based on an ensamble cast. For example, the Star Trek Next Gen movies gave the short shrift to pretty much every character who was not Picard or Data.

But Wash was a "leaf on the wind." That's what killed me. That was his most Wash-like moment of the movie and then.... :(

[larrymcg421]

Yeah, that kind of thing always happens when you have a movie based on an ensamble cast. For example, the Star Trek Next Gen movies gave the short shrift to pretty much every character who was not Picard or Data.

But Wash was a "leaf on the wind." That's what killed me. That was his most Wash-like moment of the movie and then.... :(

I thought there were some other pretty good Wash moments.

"Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die?"

and

"Just get us on the ground."
"That part will happen pretty definitely."

[Honolulu_Blue]

I thought there were some other pretty good Wash moments.

"Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die?"

and

"Just get us on the ground."
"That part will happen pretty definitely."

Agreed. Just reading those lines made me laugh. :)

[kurtism]

Note: for those wanting to read the comics, Dark Horse has kindly packaged them in a handy-dandy graphic novel format, available now from your finer internet retailers!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593074492/104-9260716-0635153?v=glance&n=283155

FWIW, they are quite well done - the art manages to capture the likenesses of the characters without verging on the creepy, and Whedon/Mathews tell an excellent story.

[JeeberD]

*RUMOR ALERT!!!*

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Trans/Archive2006/060213b.html

From junglejen9: Firefly. You gotta spill it if you have any additional info, please!
I've heard the CW is considering bringing it back as a series, miniseries or movie for next season. Hurrah! For you who missed my message board posting, on Tuesday, Nate Fillion, Summer Glau and Gina Torres were seen coming out of one of the exec buildings at Paramount, where they are putting together the new CW unit.

pleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleasebetrue

[cthomer5000]

Note: for those wanting to read the comics, Dark Horse has kindly packaged them in a handy-dandy graphic novel format, available now from your finer internet retailers!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1593074492/104-9260716-0635153?v=glance&n=283155

FWIW, they are quite well done - the art manages to capture the likenesses of the characters without verging on the creepy, and Whedon/Mathews tell an excellent story.

FWIW I did go out and buy the comic before watching Serenity. I would rate it as OK. If you really love the show I would say pick it up (it's only like $10). But if someone does decided to skip it, I would advise them to at least read a snyopsis of what happens before seeing the movie. It would make a few things that seem puzzling, clear.

[cthomer5000]

*RUMOR ALERT!!!*

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Trans/Archive2006/060213b.html



pleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleasebetrue




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I have to say I'm a little fearful of the balance of the show without the shephard and especially nervous about a post-Wash Firefly.

Poor Wash. :(

[JeeberD]

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RIP Wash :(

[BrianD]

I would love to see something new in the Firefly universe. I really hope there is some truth to this rumor.

[ISiddiqui]

What the Hell is 'CW'?

[JeeberD]

I think that's the new WB/UPN combined network...

[ISiddiqui]

Oh riiiight! I forgot they were going to do that (I don't pay much attention to WB and UPN)

[Crapshoot]

*RUMOR ALERT!!!*

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Trans/Archive2006/060213b.html



pleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleasebetrue

What Jeebs said.

[Honolulu_Blue]

*SPOILER WARNING*





















While I'd love the series to come back and I would watch every episode and most likely love it, no Wash... no Book... and an Uber-River would definitely change the dynamic of the show.

[Raiders Army]

Well, my wife and I sat down and watched the entire series and movie in the span of two days. It started out innocently enough...

My wife isn't interested in Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc. So the only reason why she sat down to watch these with me is because I told her to sit down and watch them.* The first couple of episodes she thought were okay but by the time we came to Jaynestown she was really into it. We were both disappointed by the ending of the TV Series, but felt as if the movie wrapped up a lot of loose ends.

Like it was said earlier in the thread, the movie was good but it also seemed like one long TV episode. I also agree that the concept works better as a TV series...although I don't see it ever coming back with the same actors (those character that survived the movie). All in all, it was enjoyable but I have resigned myself to the fact that the story will not continue in a TV series.

*She has disobeyed me in the past with Buffy, so this is a big deal.

[cthomer5000]

Just rewatched the entire series... such a quality show. I hope Joss Whedon gets something out there soon, he's produced 3 shows well worth watching I think.

[JeeberD]

Why must you tease me by bumping this thread?!? I thought that maybe there was going to be another movie or something... :(

[Crapshoot]

Why must you tease me by bumping this thread?!? I thought that maybe there was going to be another movie or something... :(

"""""""""""""""""""". The wound still hurts.

[Greyroofoo]

I thought this was a boring movie, though I had never seen the show.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Just rewatched the entire series... such a quality show. I hope Joss Whedon gets something out there soon, he's produced 3 shows well worth watching I think.

Agreed.

Well, you can still enjoy his craft in some of the comic series he's doing. I was secretly quite happy his work on the "Wonder Woman" movie fell through. I would have seen it because he was involved, but nothing about it really interested me. Hopefully he'll do something else in TV/film soon enough.

I have now watched Battlestar Galactica (via DVD) through Season 2.5. There's some great, great stuff on that show and it's quite different from "Firefly", but I have to say, I've seen most Firely episodes 4-5 times and would happily watch almost any episode again. I can't think of one Battlestar Galactica episode I ever wanted to see again or would be excited to see again.

Again, different shows and their strengths are in different areas, but I think that says something.

[Breeze]

Summer Glau is going to be in the new Terminator TV Show. It's on Fox so I can't wait for them to play the shows out of order (so you are completely confused) and then cancel the series after less than 1 full season.

[JeeberD]

*RUMOR ALERT!!!*

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Trans/Archive2006/060213b.html



pleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleasebetrue

Hopefully this rumor alert if more accurate than that last one I posted...

hxxp://www.aintitcool.com/node/34342

This thing keeps filling my emailbox, so here’s the deal.

The website Moviehole did a phone interview with “Serenity” star Alan Tudyk (promoting his new movie “Death at a Funeral”). The key excerpt:

Tudyk says the newly-released “Serenity : Special Edition“ DVD has been selling so hot, that there’s talk in doing another movie.

“They had to put [the new DVD] out because they’ve been selling out of the other one and so Universal’s like ‘So, let’s do another one’. And now… there’s now a chance there’s going to be another movie”.


Judging from the many emails I've gotten, there may or may not be the slightest bit of confusion here. I think some readers are taking “another one” to mean “Serenity 2,” when Tudyk is really talking about the “Serenity: Collector's Edition" DVD (pictured above) that Universal issued several weeks ago.

In other words, I’m guessing the greenlight boys at Universal have not yet told Tudyk (or Tudyk’s pal, “Serenity” mastermind Joss Whedon) anything like, “So let’s make another ‘Serenity’ movie.” Yet.

*crosses fingers*

[BrianD]

That link doesn't resolve. What is the rumor?

[JeeberD]

:confused:

What's in the lower quote box is the rumor. That there might possibly be a second Firefly movie in the works...

[SnowMan]

I'm a newcomer to the Firefly world, but I definitely loved the series and the movie, we need more! But I'd like to see the return of all the characters somehow.

[BrianD]

:confused:

What's in the lower quote box is the rumor. That there might possibly be a second Firefly movie in the works...

I see. I thought the second box was the earlier rumor that you were saying didn't go so well...especially considering they seemed to debunk the rumor in the same box.

[mauchow]

Mm.. I might rewatch the series..Yeah, I will starting Sunday. Woot.

[cthomer5000]

The movie was kind of a let down / depressing.

[Crapshoot]

Be still my beating heart...

[Blade6119]

I am a leaf on the wind, watch me soar...

[Dutch]

The movie was kind of a let down / depressing.

I definately agree with this. I'd much rather season Firefly season 2 than Serenity 2.

[JeeberD]

Supposedly Whedon has said he wouldn't do another movie is Wash and Shepherd weren't in it...

*shrug*

[BrianD]

Supposedly Whedon has said he wouldn't do another movie is Wash and Shepherd weren't in it...

*shrug*

I don't think I would want him to.

[Lorena]

I definately agree with this. I'd much rather season Firefly season 2 than Serenity 2.

I enjoyed the movie, but not nearly as much as I thought I would. The cast didn't click the way they did in the series.

Firefly 2.. all over it. Serenity 2? Not sure how that's even possible.

[Crapshoot]

You know the problem is that the movie become more "action-y" - they were trying to sell outside the Firefly audience. The great thing about the show was the character development - it gave each of them time to shine and flow. The Movie became a "shoot em blow em up" kinda thing. I liked it a fair amount, but its not even close to the show.

[MikeVic]

I liked the movie and the series. They can always do a prequel to bring back Wash and Shepherd.

[BrianD]

I liked the movie and the series. They can always do a prequel to bring back Wash and Shepherd.

They could, but we already had a background episode where we saw all of the characters get introduced to each other. The beauty of the show was that it was very character driven, and you can't really do a prequel for a character driven series or you lose the character development. They could do a prequel from an action standpoint, but then you lose the strength of the Firefly universe. Really, they have put themselves in a corner since you can't really go forward or backward...which is why I think the movie was done as it was...they knew they were done.

[Raiders Army]

They could do a Serenity prequel but set after Firefly.

[Calis]

Anyone pick up the CE of Serenity?

Haven't picked up the DVD of it yet and wondered if it was worth getting that version, how good the extras were.

[14ers]

They could do a Serenity prequel but set after Firefly.
This is what I am hoping will happen if they ever bring back the series.

I thought Shephard's storyline had some real interesting possibilities.