Poker Hand Question

[SaintAnselm]

Let me know what you guys think:

Bi-weekly home game...23 players...45 dollar buy in...5 positions paid

The level of play is pretty good. Mostly players in the tight-aggressive category with a couple of fish. I have won a couple of times and placed in the money 4 other times and I have been there 15 or so times.

We call this our "world series night" because we start with 10,000 in chips with blinds starting at 25,25 that last for 20 minutes.

We were down to 11 people(one table had 6 and my table had 5) and were combining to one table with one more person eliminated. We redraw for position and the button when we combine. That makes the average stack around 21,000 and I had 13,500.

On to the hand...Blinds 1500,3000

I am dealt KJ suited on the button and it folds around to me. The two players in the blinds are both very good but very tight. They are both sitting on over 20,000 in chips. Most of the players think of me as a tight but aggressive player.

I push all in. The big blind calls after saying "I am gonna regret this." He turns over AK suited(different suit than mine). Needless to say I lost.

Thoughts?

[sooner333]

What position were you in?

Also, those blinds seem really high for the amount of people left in the tournament in regards to the chipstack. I mean, you don't play a hand til the blinds pass and you're down to around 8,000. And you're blinded out in about 18 hands (if noone is knocked out). With KJ in a short-handed game with the blinds eating you away as a lower stack, I might have done the same thing you did...with the tight players in the blinds, you could easily have stolent them and been up to close to average.

[TredWel]

With 5BB left, this is pretty much an auto-push. Just got unlucky.

[SaintAnselm]

That was my thinking. With 4500 there to steal and two tight players I fully expected them both to fold and for me to be up to 18,000. I obviously did not like my hand once he called.

I agree the blinds are quite high but I'm not sure how we can avoid that. We started with 10,000 in chips with 20 minute levels and the blinds at 25,25.

[Radii]

Easy easy push w/ your stack vs the blinds in an unopened pot on the button.

20 minute levels will cause these problems every time. Once the blinds start to get prohibitively large you can steal a ton of blinds by being the most agressive person at the table to put yourself in a position to win. You will fail to make the money sometimes when you run into a real hand in the blinds, but with the blinds getting that large that fast you either have to hit a few miracle hands early to double up at least once possibly twice, or you have to steal the blinds a ton in the middle stages.

[maddmic]

I most likely would've done the same thing. One question though..... What was the winning hand?

[SaintAnselm]

I was beaten by AK suited.

Radii:

Early in a tournament such as this what is the correct strategy?

[dixieflatline]

I was beaten by AK suited.

Radii:

Early in a tournament such as this what is the correct strategy?


I'm not Radii but my guess is that he would agree that early in the tourney when the stacks are much deeper than the blinds that you raise about 3x the big blind here. If someone comes over the top for a big reraise then fold.

[RPI-Fan]

I was beaten by AK suited.

Radii:

Early in a tournament such as this what is the correct strategy?

You still owe me a Liverpool scarf!

[Radii]

I'm not Radii but my guess is that he would agree that early in the tourney when the stacks are much deeper than the blinds that you raise about 3x the big blind here. If someone comes over the top for a big reraise then fold.


At a full table how often would you be on the button w/ KJ suited and no one will have bet before you? If no one else is in the pot try to take it w/ a 3BB raise, can probably limp if a bunch of others are in the pot, but you want to stay out of the way early and play tight unlessyou hit a big hand.

[Maple Leafs]

At a full table how often would you be on the button w/ KJ suited and no one will have bet before you? I actually had that exact situation last night, in the very first hand of a one-table tournament. I had Kh Jh, and there were several limpers but no raises. I figured it was worth a call.

Flop was Ah Th x.

Turn was Qh.

(Didn't get paid the way I hoped, though.)

[SaintAnselm]

My apology Radii. I meant what would be the correct overall strategy for a tournament set up such as this one besides the usual tight aggresssive stuff?