Werewolf II - Flight to Hawthorne Manor

[Peregrine]

Your area of the kingdom has always known about the werewolves that live in the mountains to the north. Usually, however, they have avoided you and your villages, until recently. For unknown reasons, they have come south to attack your lands, causing chaos, death and confusion. The king has moved in with his army to battle them but the rest of you are just looking for a safe place to hide out during the war. Hawthorne Manor is a run-down old mansion that officially belongs to the King, but has rarely been used in the last twenty years. It's isolated location, stout walls and moat, and water supplies make it a good place to flee from the ongoing war, and so a variety of people have ended up there, doors locked against any werewolf assault. Many of you are normal villagers, but there are others as well, who have come here for different reasons. Soon after you arrived, you became convinced that some werewolves have made it into your refuge. You're not sure how many exactly, but at least two of them appear to be lurking about, in human form during the day. There's only one way you will survive, determine who the werewolves are and kill them! Luckily the manor is well stocked with old weapons, including several firearms. Those should come in handy...


Basic Rules:


Werewolf is a game of accusation, deduction, lying, reverse psychology and bandwagoning. Moreover, it's a lot of fun.

The rules are pretty simple: The players represent a village and each member of the village has a role which is kept secret. Most players are ordinary villagers but two or more are werewolves and at least one is a seer, there are some other roles which are explained later. The goal of the villagers is to eliminate all of the werewolves. The goal of the werewolves is to achieve 1:1 parity with the villagers at which time they can openly rise up and overwhelm the villagers thus winning the game.

Gameplay
The game consists of two different phases: Night and Day. The game begins with a Night phase.

Night
In a night phase the moderator will ask the werewolves to choose a villager to “eat” and also ask the seer to choose one player to “view”. The werewolves should decide amongst themselves using the board's PM (private message) function who their victim will be and inform the moderator of their choice. The seer should decide who his target will be and inform the moderator of his choice.

The werewolves' victim is dead and is removed from the game, but the rest of the village won't find out until daytime who the victim is and what their secret role was.

The seer's target has his role (villager or werewolf) revealed to the seer only.

Day
During the daytime the villagers all wake up and find that one of their own has been killed by the werewolves. At this point at least one player is a werewolf and so someone is gonna get lynched.

During this phase all players, including werewolves who have assumed villager form, must discuss their suspicions. Eventually it will reach a point where villagers start to cast votes for who they feel is a werewolf and must be lynched. Votes are cast by placing bold text in a post like this VOTE PLAYER A. If you want to change your vote, make another post saying UNVOTE PLAYER A - VOTE PLAYER B. At the end of the day (which is defined as 8:00 pm EST) the player who received the most votes is lynched and is removed from the game. That player’s role will be revealed to the village.

When the lynching is done all the villagers go back to their homes to sleep and the next night begins.

Winning
In case it's not clear: The villagers win if they kill all of the werewolves. The werewolves win if they kill enough villagers so that their numbers are equal. At this point the werewolves can openly rise up and slaughter the rest of the villagers.


Changes from Last time:

I've moved up the lynch deadline to 8 pm EST to allow everyone a bit more time for discussion, etc.

If there is a tie for the lynch vote, I will decide who will be lynched based on the relative strengths of the arguments that have been offered.

[Peregrine]

Roles:

Keep in mind that unlike last game, not all of these roles may actually be used in the game, and there may even be more than one of a particular role.



Seer - May check one person per night to see if they are a werewolf or a villager. Each night turn may PM me with their view.

Bodyguard - May protect one person against a werewolf attack. They may not protect the same person two nights in a row, and may not protect themselves. If they successfully protect a person, it will be revealed as a NO KILL. The bodyguard will NOT learn the identity of any werewolves! Each night they should PM me with who they want to protect.

Hunter - The hunter is a rather paranoid individual, but a skilled killer. If they are killed in the game, either by werewolves or lynched, they have the power to immediately kill one other player of their choice. Note that they don't know who the werewolves are, they just have to make their best guess.

Doctor - Chooses one person each night to watch over. If that person is attacked by the werewolves, the Doctor has a 50% chance of saving that person. The person the Doctor saves WILL NOT have voting rights the next day due to their wounds. The Doctor should PM me each night with who they are keeping watch over.

Witness - Once per game, the witness may view the werewolves kill. They will find out the identity of one wolf, who will also find out their identity. If there is no kill for any reason, the moderator will decide if the witness's power is used or not.

Brutal Wolf - One of the werewolves in the game is nastier than the others, a very tough customer. If this werewolf is lynched, he has the power to immediately kill one person before he is subdued.

Cursed - If this person is targeted by the werewolves, they become a werewolf. It will be revealed as NO KILL during the night. However, the person who is Cursed, will NOT know the fact until they are attacked by the wolves. If they are lynched, all the passengers will find out is that they were a villager. This role will be viewed as a villager to the Seer, unless they have already been changed to a werewolf.

Sorcerer - May check one person per night to see if they are the Seer. This person wins if the wolves win. This role will be viewed as a regular villager to the Seer. The Sorceror does not know the identity of the wolves, and the wolves do not know the Sorceror. Should PM me each night with who they want to view.

Cultist - This person is working with the wolves, and wins if the wolves win. This person knows who the wolves are, but the wolves do not know their identity. The Cultist has a visible aura of evil that the Seer will have a 50% chance of detecting if he views this person.

Duke - The Duke is a powerful noble in the area who has fled to the manor for protection, and is laying low. He has the power, once per game, after a lynch is decided, to stand up and declare that the victim will not be lynched (even if he is the victim,) and instead lynch someone else of his choice. This is the one role that will be positively revealed if used, the Duke will PM me if he wants to use his ability, and *I* will post about the Duke's actions, so there can be no false claims.


*edited to add the Duke, forgot one!*

*edited to change the Cultists role slightly*

[korme]

I really like all the new roles :)

[Peregrine]

Let me know if there are any questions, I know I'm adding a lot of roles compared to the last game but I've tried to make the descriptions fairly complete.

[ntndeacon]

I agree these are very cool additions.

[Neuqua]

Hopefully it will be just as exciting as the first game :)

Looking forward to it.

[Swaggs]

Any chance we can extend the weekend deadline?

[Peregrine]

I'm open to votes for when we should start the game, we can start immediately if you guys want, to get in a Friday turn, and then the next day turn would be basically the rest of the weekend. Or I can just start now and have the deadline be Sunday night, since people may be out of town, etc. That may be best

[korme]

I'd suggest the whole weekend for the first turn

[Peregrine]

Player list for this game:

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW
Airhog
NoMyths
Qwikshot
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny
Shorty
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

[ntndeacon]

the weekend sounds good to me for a first turn

[TazFTW]

Start now and have the turn end at the end of the weekend.

[edit]Nice character additions.

[Peregrine]

I've sent out PMs to everyone with your role, if you have questions about it, feel free to PM me.

Night Turn 1

Everyone is settling in to the decrepit old manor, trying to find comfortable places in the rotting (though still elegant) bedrooms, and putting together meals in the huge kitchen. There were some stocks of food when you arrived, but it is mostly preserved meat and wine. The rest of you brought some food and pooled it, and also you can go out to the manor's enclosed garden to get more food. Most of you have been drinking a lot, especially since you learned there are werewolves among you. There is an air of expectation, something will happen soon. The scent of fear is in the air throughout the dark halls of the manor. Night arrives.

Wolves, PM me with your kill for tonight.
Seer/Sorceror, PM me your views.
Doctor/Bodyguard, PM me who you are watching over.
Witness, PM me if you want to witness tonight's events.

Once I receive everyone's reply I will post to start Day turn 1, at that point the discussions can really begin and will go through the weekend to Sunday night.

[kingfc22]

Bah, missed out again.

[Lathum]

Yes, I like the new rules. I also like the weekend deadline.

[condors]

back for more

[KevinNU7]

Is the first kill going to be on Peregrine again or are you actually going to kill someone right off the bat????

[Peregrine]

Is the first kill going to be on Peregrine again or are you actually going to kill someone right off the bat?

We'll find out, won't we? :)

[KWhit]

Is the first kill going to be on Peregrine again or are you actually going to kill someone right off the bat????
Ah, good question. Dang! I wish we didn't have to wait all weekend to have the first round.

[KevinNU7]

I thought we'd find out the werewolves killed person X now and then we'd all have until Sunday night to lynch someone.

[KWhit]

Yeah. I think you're right. But the lynching's the fun part - I don't want to wait all weekend before we string somebody up!

[Jon]

The sooner we start the stringing up, the better.

[Mustang]

Probably tonight be the first one and then the rest of the weekend but, I'm ok with making the weekend the first turn.

[Peregrine]

If I get responses from all the people for the night turn we can do a lynch turn today with a Friday night deadline if people want. Then the next day turn would be the rest of the weekend. We'll see how it plays out I guess. It's definitely going to take longer to get the night turns done in this game, since I have to hear from a lot more people. I may establish a time limit, and if you don't reply by then, your character doesn't take their action that night.

[KevinNU7]

I'm intrigued by the roles and the fact that we have no clue how many werewolves there are. I'd imagine the Witness would only want to use his/her skill when there is only 1 wolf remaining so that the wolf can be outted at the game can end.

[Joe]

I'm intrigued by the roles and the fact that we have no clue how many werewolves there are. I'd imagine the Witness would only want to use his/her skill when there is only 1 wolf remaining so that the wolf can be outted at the game can end.

but they won't know when there is only 1 left. do they do it after 1 is killed? or 2? or maybe theres like 15 werewolves?

[BrianD]

Either schedule is fine with me. I'd be around for a turn today, but I also don't mind waiting.

Interesting new roles. It looks like simple villagers are outnumbered by people with roles. That should make things interesting. I also like the "two or more" wolves. The seer can't out himself for a guaranteed win if he doesn't know how many wolves are left.

This should be fun.

[BrianD]

So for old time's sake....let's lynch Lathum. :D

[KWhit]

Hehe.

[KevinNU7]

That is why the position is so interesting to me. I think it is safe to assume that no player owns more then one position. There are 9 position excluding the brutal wolf, and we know there are atleast two werewolves. So that makes 11, assuming you add a brutal wolf to that you know have 9 human positions and 3 wolves, with 7 left over. Those 7 could all be villagers or some could be wolves.

1 Seer
2 Bodyguard
3 Hunter
4 Doctor
5 Witness
6 Cursed
7 Sorcerer
8 Cultist
9 Duke
10 Brutal Wolf

[KevinNU7]

Question for Peregine. If I am about to be killed by a werewolf and the bodyguard or doctor come to my rescue do I learn who they are in a PM? Like this, "You were attacked last night but Person X faught off the attack."

At the same time could a werewold get a message "You tried to kill KevinNU7 but were staved off by Person X."

[KevinNU7]

Cursed - If this person is targeted by the werewolves, they become a werewolf. It will be revealed as NO KILL during the night. However, the person who is Cursed, will NOT know the fact until they are attacked by the wolves. If they are lynched, all the passengers will find out is that they were a villager. This role will be viewed as a villager to the Seer, unless they have already been changed to a werewolf.
Another question. Are you saying that in the opening PM the cursed would have gotten a message saying "You are a villager" and then if they get killed by the wolves they will change sides? That's pretty cool.

Something to note with this position is a "NO KILL" would immediately be recognized by the Body Guard as the Cursed because he would say to himslef, "Hey, wait a minute, I did not protect that person last night, they must have changed into a werwolf!"

[Joe]

That is why the position is so interesting to me. I think it is safe to assume that no player owns more then one position. There are 9 position excluding the brutal wolf, and we know there are atleast two werewolves. So that makes 11, assuming you add a brutal wolf to that you know have 9 human positions and 3 wolves, with 7 left over. Those 7 could all be villagers or some could be wolves.

1 Seer
2 Bodyguard
3 Hunter
4 Doctor
5 Witness
6 Cursed
7 Sorcerer
8 Cultist
9 Duke
10 Brutal Wolf


That is assuming all roles are used though.

[KevinNU7]

I'm not sure Peregine would go that crazy in game 2. That is a possibility though.

Edit: Nevermind I didn't see this

Keep in mind that unlike last game, not all of these roles may actually be used in the game, and there may even be more than one of a particular role.

So in theory there could be two bodyguards and then you wouldn't truely know what the NO KILL meant

[BrianD]

Another question. Are you saying that in the opening PM the cursed would have gotten a message saying "You are a villager" and then if they get killed by the wolves they will change sides? That's pretty cool.

Something to note with this position is a "NO KILL" would immediately be recognized by the Body Guard as the Cursed because he would say to himslef, "Hey, wait a minute, I did not protect that person last night, they must have changed into a werwolf!"

I could be wrong, but I would guess that on a "NO KILL", we won't be told who the wolves were targeting. We'll just find out in the morning that the wolves didn't eat anyone. I would assume that the wolves will know if turned a cursed person via PM and they will have a new member to conspire with.

[KevinNU7]

Good point. So the body guards and doctors would protect people we'd here about a NO KILL find no one injuried and have to wonder if someone was protect by a body guard or changed into a werewolf. Cool.

[Lathum]

So for old time's sake....let's lynch Lathum. :D
aarrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[KWhit]

Good point. So the body guards and doctors would protect people we'd here about a NO KILL find no one injuried and have to wonder if someone was protect by a body guard or changed into a werewolf. Cool.
Yeah. That's a neat twist.

[BrianD]

aarrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Was that a wolf howl? :)

I'm going to guess that Lathum is not a wolf, though it would be fitting if he was since he got kicked out so early last time.

[KevinNU7]

Should be interesting to see where all the game 1 player land this time around.

[Mustang]

Should be interesting to see where all the game 1 player land this time around.

Ya.. probably be a few of us with bullseyes on us because in game one we were villagers so, in this game we just have to be werewolves... that would be bad logic to use..

Oh, and as far as Lathum being lynched on the first night, I think it would take a full confession for me to turn that way again.. :)

[BrianD]

Ya.. probably be a few of us with bullseyes on us because in game one we were villagers so, in this game we just have to be werewolves... that would be bad logic to use..

Oh, and as far as Lathum being lynched on the first night, I think it would take a full confession for me to turn that way again.. :)

So you are protecting Lathum? Could it be that you are both wolves working together?

Hmmm, I guess I haven't quite worked up enough paranoia yet to post that with a straight face. :)

[condors]

i am alright with speeding the game up a little bit

[Lathum]

OK, I am going out all day (Warped tour baby !!) so if I am quiet it's not because I am out stealing babies. I am a little confused, do we need to vote by 8:00 tonight or are we waiting for the weekend. I may not be home by 7:00 (my time) or should I vote before I go. In about an hour or so?

[KevinNU7]

The game does not start until a villager is killed. So it doesn't look like there will be a vote tonight since all the overnight people are taking forever to PM Peregine

[KWhit]

The first lynching is always the toughest - you don't have much information to go on.

[timmynausea]

The first lynching is always the toughest - you don't have much information to go on.

The first lynching is the toughest in real life, too. You get used to it after a while.

[Peregrine]

Question for Peregine. If I am about to be killed by a werewolf and the bodyguard or doctor come to my rescue do I learn who they are in a PM? Like this, "You were attacked last night but Person X faught off the attack."

At the same time could a werewold get a message "You tried to kill KevinNU7 but were staved off by Person X."

Okay, the only people who can learn the werewolf's identities for sure are the Seer and the Witness. If a Bodyguard prevents the attack, I will assume that the wolves went for Player A's door, saw a large armed person there, and departed into the night with neither side being able to notice or identify the other. So what would be told to the players was that there was no kill. The werewolves will of course know who they were trying to kill and will know they were bodyguarded, but not by who. The players won't be sure if one of three things happened: An attack prevented by the bodyguard, an attack on the cursed, or the wolves just choose not to attack anyone for some reason. If the doctor cures someone then they (and the rest of the villagers) will know who was attacked and healed, but not any of the wolves identities.

It sounds confusing, but I think it's best to limit who can learn about the wolves, there are a lot of humans and I think the game might be slanted their way anyway. So the no kills will provide some additional confusion.



Another question. Are you saying that in the opening PM the cursed would have gotten a message saying "You are a villager" and then if they get killed by the wolves they will change sides?

Yes, this is the way this works. If the wolves get lucky they may gain an ally early on (and royally screw up the theories of everyone else) but then again the role of the cursed may never be revealed.

[Mustang]

So you are protecting Lathum? Could it be that you are both wolves working together?


Now.. you know, that I know, that you know.. and I know you know that I know.. that would be waaaayyyy too obvious. You know?

:D

My intentions are pure no werewolf scheme.. just don't want to kill it that quick for Lathum again. :)

[Peregrine]

So it doesn't look like there will be a vote tonight since all the overnight people are taking forever to PM Peregine

I've heard from everyone but one. If that person chooses soon then we can get in a turn today I think, if not, we'll see.

[Mustang]

All I know is that if we are waiting for the wolves to kick this off, I'm sure going to point my finger at someone that hasn't checked in yet... Inactivity is a lynching offense this early in my opinion...

[Lathum]

OK, well. I am off. Hopefully I am alive when I return :)

Happy hunting!

[Joe]

So one of the overnight people is a slacker. Let's start speculating on who hasn't been around lately.

[BrianD]

Now.. you know, that I know, that you know.. and I know you know that I know.. that would be waaaayyyy too obvious. You know?

:D

My intentions are pure no werewolf scheme.. just don't want to kill it that quick for Lathum again. :)

I think I felt something in my head pop when I read that first sentence. :)

I haven't quite decided if I think seeing Lathum lynched first twice in a row would be cruel, or a little bit funny. Either way, he is safe from my vote tonight.

Anybody out there want to say something wolfy to get us pointed in a direction for this first vote?

[NoMyths]

*spurred by Mustang's comments, NoMyths stands up, pulls out a silver letter opener, and then cuts his arm (slightly...don't need any gaping wounds to attract wolves) a few times with the blade to show that he isn't a werewolf*


Btw, they're having a half-off sale on silver letter openers and key fobs at Jerry's Haus 'o Silver on Three Mile Road, right next to the Piggly Wiggly

[Mustang]

*spurred by Mustang's comments, NoMyths stands up, pulls out a silver letter opener, and then cuts his arm (slightly...don't need any gaping wounds to attract wolves) a few times with the blade to show that he isn't a werewolf*[/size]

Bah.. werewolves and silver is just a myth. And, judging by your nickname you clearly do not believe in myths so.. this didn't prove anything....

:D

[NoMyths]

I, of course, have a strange but powerful attraction to the idea of lynching GWB...but as long as he doesn't make any campaign speeches I'll just assume he's gotten back into the cocaine (a hell of a drug!) rather than the politics. ;)


Edit: Not a dola after all.

[NoMyths]

Bah.. werewolves and silver is just a myth. And, judging by your nickname you clearly do not believe in myths so.. this didn't prove anything....

:DAck! Your jedi mind tricks are intriguing, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Your "non-lynching of me" newsletter. :)

No myths -- silver's how we kill those things. I've always said that I never want to go out as some animal's dinner.

[Peregrine]

Just a few comments before we go. If it wasn't clear to everyone before, No one is allowed to PM each other about the game except the wolves. Anyone can PM me at any time though, as long as my mailbox isn't full. :D

Also, there's no way to definitively reveal your role with the exception of the Duke, all others can be faked. No silver letter openers will convince anyone, NoMyths. ;)

I'll set a deadline of 1 pm EST, if I don't have a response from the missing person by then we won't have the first turn ending tonight. You can discuss things a bit but don't get too involved until I post the beginning of the day turn. You're all very sleepy...

[Mustang]

Hmm.. anyone seen McSweeny?

I know ntndeacon checked in pretty early too.. and he might be thinking the game is starting this weekend so, therefore, a lack of a note on who to kill...

[KevinNU7]

Players / Posts

Jon - 1
Swaggs - 1
TazFTW - 1
Airhog - 0
NoMyths - 2
Qwikshot - 0
Neuqua - 0
ntndeacon - 2
McSweeny - 0
Shorty - 2
Kwhit - 5
Mustang - 5
BrianD - 6
Condors - 2
Eaglesfan - 0
GWB - 3
KevinNU7 - 10
Desnudo - 0
Lathum - 4

[ntndeacon]

As long as the coke is laced with silver. It would serve him right to OD on silver laced drugs.

I, of course, have a strange but powerful attraction to the idea of lynching GWB...but as long as he doesn't make any campaign speeches I'll just assume he's gotten back into the cocaine (a hell of a drug!) rather than the politics. ;)


Edit: Not a dola after all.

[Joe]

I, of course, have a strange but powerful attraction to the idea of lynching GWB...but as long as he doesn't make any campaign speeches I'll just assume he's gotten back into the cocaine (a hell of a drug!) rather than the politics. ;)


Edit: Not a dola after all.


Yes I have. And as we all know, cocaine kills werewolves, so you need not lynch me this time.

[Qwikshot]

Btw, they're having a half-off sale on silver letter openers and key fobs at Jerry's Haus 'o Silver on Three Mile Road, right next to the Piggly Wiggly

Saw a sale on fake silver letter openers on my way here.

[NoMyths]

Also, there's no way to definitively reveal your role with the exception of the Duke, all others can be faked. No silver letter openers will convince anyone, NoMyths. ;)Drat again. How about I offer everyone who doesn't vote to lynch me a free hooker each night, since in this town I just happen to be the king pimp? :D

[Joe]

too many non-posting suspects. Why couldn't it have just been 1 person?

[Mustang]

Hmm.. Eaglesfan with no posts? Not surprising as he admitted he feels bad in the morning and doesn't post... Although, one of those 6 non-posters is public enemy #1 right now.

[Qwikshot]

I posted! I posted!

[KevinNU7]

Player - Posts - Last Visit

Airhog - 0 - yesterday
Qwikshot - 0 - Today
Neuqua - 0 - Today
McSweeny - 0 - Yesterday
Eaglesfan - 0 - Today
Desnudo - 0 - Today

[Qwikshot]

Player - Posts - Last Visit

Airhog - 0 - yesterday
Qwikshot - 3 - Today
Neuqua - 0 - Today
McSweeny - 0 - Yesterday
Eaglesfan - 0 - Today
Desnudo - 0 - Today

:D

Give me a break, I'm a 2nd shift worker...My eyes got big when I saw it was already had a large chunk of replies at what, 11 am.

[KevinNU7]

Keep in mind that missing 1 werewolf will not limit the playing of the werewolfs. If there is more then 2 werewolves and all the ones around decide to kill someone then that final werewolf who is a no show will not matter much anyways. I think the person holding things up is probably in a role that would benfit us villagers.

[KevinNU7]

:D

Give me a break, I'm a 2nd shift worker...My eyes got big when I saw it was already had a large chunk of replies at what, 11 am.
Notice how you didn't post until we started loking for non-posters. You are suspect #1

[henry296]

Not just werewolves have to PM Peregrine.

[Qwikshot]

Notice how you didn't post until we started loking for non-posters. You are suspect #1

Nah, really?!?, I don't check FOFC till about noon, and I was still had to do my jog, and have breakfast. I just wanted to state I was here to prove my dedication to participating in the game.

[Desnudo]

It's only 9 AM here people. Impatience is the first sign of lycanthropy, or so I hear.

[ntndeacon]

Keep in mind that missing 1 werewolf will not limit the playing of the werewolfs. If there is more then 2 werewolves and all the ones around decide to kill someone then that final werewolf who is a no show will not matter much anyways. I think the person holding things up is probably in a role that would benfit us villagers.

Probably, although it still could be the sorcerer. Not much help to the villagers ther. Just to those blasted wolves.

[Qwikshot]

Notice how you didn't post until we started loking for non-posters. You are suspect #1

To quote a song...

"Paranoia, paranoia
Everybody's comin' to get me
Just say you never met me
I'm runnin' underground with the moles
Diggin' in holes
Hear the voices in my head
I swear to God it sounds like they're snoring
But if you're bored then you're boring
The agony and the irony, they're killing me, whoa!"

[Joe]

Not just werewolves have to PM Peregrine.

True, but I think we are in agreement that there are more wolves than other special roles that have to PM him. At least 2 wolves, plus the superwolf (if he's involved), and a sorcerer. I think its a risk most are willing to take.

[Mustang]

It's only 9 AM here people. Impatience is the first sign of lycanthropy, or so I hear.

And extra hair.. alot of 11 & 12 year old boys running around worried...


Hell, even more of a reason why Michael Jackson made thriller.. :D

[Peregrine]

Ack, I am really stupid. It turns out the "missing" person PMed me a while back but I lost track of it in a pile of PMs! Mea culpa. So I have everyone after all. Onward.

Day Turn 1

The day dawns crisp and clear, it doesn't look like it's going to get much warmer than freezing today. You come out of your rooms and get a fire going, and do a head count. Luckily no one is missing tonight! You look at each other, unsure of what will happen next. In the last few days, two villagers have apparently been killed by the werewolves. The first was made to look like a potential suicide, but by the second time, you knew you had trouble. People have angry looks on their faces this morning, they want someone to blame. A bunch of desperate, paranoid strangers stuck in a manor together, many of them armed and drunk. This can't turn out well, can it?

You have until 11 pm EST tonight (Friday) to decide who you want to lynch. (Extra deadline time since we're getting a late start.)

[Desnudo]

Probably, although it still could be the sorcerer. Not much help to the villagers ther. Just to us blasted wolves.

Well that was easy to sort out. :)

[Joe]

there goes that theory

[Qwikshot]

It got very quiet here all of a sudden.

[Warhammer]

Wow, after fleeing from my last village, I am glad I decided to not come to this manor and instead headed south to the Riviera! :D

[NoMyths]

*arms himself and drunks himself well*

[Peregrine]

One final gameplay note, and I will shut up. Don't construe anything I ( as the impartial moderator) may say involving any of you. If I happen to mention people's names in the little RP blurbs each day, don't think I'm trying to blame them or not blame them, or assigning any special powers to anyone. You can do your misconstruing on your own, leave my statements out of it.

[ntndeacon]

Let's hope the no killing is a good thing. The Bodyguard already helping out.

[KevinNU7]

I know this will see suspicious but it must be done. My boss took a half day today and he boss is out on vacation this week so I have no supervision!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Therefore I am going home now :)

I will be back online later

[NoMyths]

Let's hope the no killing is a good thing. The Bodyguard already helping out.As long as Whitney Houston doesn't suddenly appear and burst into song, I'm all for it.

Then again, if she did show up, I think we could all take pleasure in that particular lynching. :D

[ntndeacon]

As long as Whitney Houston doesn't suddenly appear and burst into song, I'm all for it.

Then again, if she did show up, I think we could all take pleasure in that particular lynching. :D

Or Kevin Costner. Both would be satisfying. Hey that would take care of two days lynchings.

[condors]

Well going by the information we have from Kevinnu7 and i agree with this logic

Neuqua, Eaglesfan and Desnudo seem to be the 3 top canidates they were here but didn't post, not 100% but i think we should go after one of them as a starting point.

Any other thoughts?

[Mustang]

Let's hope the no killing is a good thing. The Bodyguard already helping out.

Lathum or myself would be the most logical choices to be protected the first night. I was the first to out a werewolf the last game.. maybe they are trying to avoid that again or possibly just to protect Lathum since he was the first to die and people were already joking about just killing him first as a joke.

[Swaggs]

This has already got my head spinning.

[BrianD]

Well that was easy to sort out. :)

Nice, I almost started a ntndeacon bandwagon before I noticed you changed his statement. :)

[BrianD]

Lathum or myself would be the most logical choices to be protected the first night. I was the first to out a werewolf the last game.. maybe they are trying to avoid that again or possibly just to protect Lathum since he was the first to die and people were already joking about just killing him first as a joke.

Was there an attempted eating tonight? It was stated that this game may or may not start with a wolf eating someone. I would find it highly unlikely that the wolves and bodyguard would pick the same person on the first night.

So, do we pick on one of the quiet players?

[Peregrine]

Hopefully some of the absent players will show up, I'd hate to see someone get lynched just because they were at work or on the road or something.

[Eaglesfan27]

Hey! hey! I was on call last night and actually had a 3AM patient show up in the ER. That is why I haven't posted til now. I'm awake and cool with whatever deadline that the group decides for a lynching.

[BrianD]

Well going by the information we have from Kevinnu7 and i agree with this logic

Neuqua, Eaglesfan and Desnudo seem to be the 3 top canidates they were here but didn't post, not 100% but i think we should go after one of them as a starting point.

Any other thoughts?

Is Condors too eager to shift the blame on these guys?

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

To clarify, I just woke up. Don't lynch me because I slept in late ;)

[NoMyths]

Dola -

To clarify, I just woke up. Don't lynch me because I slept in late ;)Maybe you slept late...because you were up eating villagers last night! ;)

[McSweeny]

i've been busy all day with no computer access at work, no need to lynch me because i'm a hard worker (but i ain't workin' on a monday)

[Eaglesfan27]

No, although I really would have liked to lynch the father of this one female patient.....


But time to get in character :)

[Desnudo]

Well going by the information we have from Kevinnu7 and i agree with this logic

Neuqua, Eaglesfan and Desnudo seem to be the 3 top canidates they were here but didn't post, not 100% but i think we should go after one of them as a starting point.

Any other thoughts?

Other thoughts: I think you are a hairy, ugly werewolf.

[KWhit]

Dola -

To clarify, I just woke up. Don't lynch me because I slept in late ;)
You should be lynched because you GOT to sleep in until noon. Nice life!

:)

[Eaglesfan27]

You should be lynched because you GOT to sleep in until noon. Nice life!

:)
Only for 1 more week. July 1st, I start a 7-5 Mon-Friday job :(

[condors]

Other thoughts: I think you are a hairy, ugly werewolf.

instead of an explaination of you shift blame?

easy call I vote Desnudo

[KWhit]

Ack, I am really stupid. It turns out the "missing" person PMed me a while back but I lost track of it in a pile of PMs! Mea culpa. So I have everyone after all. Onward.
One final gameplay note, and I will shut up. Don't construe anything I ( as the impartial moderator) may say involving any of you. If I happen to mention people's names in the little RP blurbs each day, don't think I'm trying to blame them or not blame them, or assigning any special powers to anyone. You can do your misconstruing on your own, leave my statements out of it.

These two comments seem strange to me. It may be that peregrine realized that he let it slip that he was waiting on a PM - giving us more information than he meant to about one of the wolves/seer/doctor etc... So he backpedalled and tried to convince us he really had the PM after all.

I think (since we don't have much else to go on) that we need to focus on one of people who hadn't posted at the time of peregrine's initial comment that he was waiting on a PM.

[Mustang]

Was there an attempted eating tonight? It was stated that this game may or may not start with a wolf eating someone. I would find it highly unlikely that the wolves and bodyguard would pick the same person on the first night.


If there were bodyguards and an attempted killing, Just stating the choices that would have some logic to them to be protected and that I could state a case for. Anyone else would just be too random and wily nily to have both the bodyguards and wolf pick. There is absolutely no reason to have picked say.. Airhog by both the bodyguard & wolf because there is no history there..

Just throwing that out there if you subscribe to the No Killings is because of protection.

[Desnudo]

Here's the explaination: I came home at 3 AM PST last night in no condition to post anything coherent. Naturally my first instinct was to go to bed. That was the first time I was home since 3 PM PST yesterday.

I unfortunately woke up around 9 AM PST this morning to discover the inuendo had already begun. Notice the PST, that is 3 hours behind EST. I would love to have been up at 6 AM to chat, but I'm afraid that just wasn't in the cards. I can supply witnesses if necessary.

Now, I put it to you condors, why so quick to accuse anyone? Scared of what the microscope might find if it stays on you too long?

[Eaglesfan27]

Yeah, the chances for the bodyguard and the werewolves to both pick the same person would be somewhere on the order of 0.5% (We can't figure out the exact amount because we don't know how many wolves and how many bodyguards there are.) Therefore, I suspect that there never was going to be a killing on the 1st night.

[KWhit]

Possibilities:

1. No killing because of the bodyguard's protection.

2. No killing due to peregrine's choice.

3. No killing because the Cursed was targeted - and now he's a werewolf.

[NoMyths]

Scared of what the microscope might find if it stays on you too long?There's a joke in there somewhere, but I'm too heavily paranoid, drunk, and armed to figure it out right now.

[Swaggs]

Here's the explaination: I came home at 3 AM PST last night in no condition to post anything coherent. Naturally my first instinct was to go to bed. That was the first time I was home since 3 PM PST yesterday.

I unfortunately woke up around 9 AM PST this morning to discover the inuendo had already begun. Notice the PST, that is 3 hours behind EST. I would love to have been up at 6 AM to chat, but I'm afraid that just wasn't in the cards. I can supply witnesses if necessary.

Now, I put it to you condors, why so quick to accuse anyone? Scared of what the microscope might find if it stays on you too long?

Did you happen to drink the blood of the town drunk, per chance?

[Eaglesfan27]

Possibilities:

1. No killing because of the bodyguard's protection.

2. No killing due to peregrine's choice.

3. No killing because the Cursed was targeted - and now he's a werewolf.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about the cursed possibility :(

[Joe]

I also think it would be too random for there to be an attempted killing. Unless both picked someone from last game that would be an obvious pick. That theory would also likely mean that the werewolves (or at least 1) is someone from last game with an axe to grind. The odds of both picking the same 1 in 19 would be high.

[Desnudo]

Did you happen to drink the blood of the town drunk, per chance?

I was the town drunk last night, so no. :)

[Swaggs]

I was the town drunk last night, so no. :)

Drats. That trail ran cold, then.

[Joe]

its really hard to play this game with all of the server errors on this board :(

[Swaggs]

Did I threadkill Werewolf 2? :(

[Eaglesfan27]

It is also hard to decide who to lynch first - almost completely shooting in the dark.

[Swaggs]

its really hard to play this game with all of the server errors on this board :(

Are you playing your werewolf mindgames on people again?

[Peregrine]

its really hard to play this game with all of the server errors on this board :(

Could be worse, can you imagine playing this game with the timestamp bug in effect?

[KWhit]

Could be worse, can you imagine playing this game with the timestamp bug in effect?
That would be nearly impossible.

[Peregrine]

These two comments seem strange to me. It may be that peregrine realized that he let it slip that he was waiting on a PM - giving us more information than he meant to about one of the wolves/seer/doctor etc... So he backpedalled and tried to convince us he really had the PM after all.

I think (since we don't have much else to go on) that we need to focus on one of people who hadn't posted at the time of peregrine's initial comment that he was waiting on a PM.

Hehe, nice Kwhit, I post about not construing anything from my statements are you construe something from that very post?
:rolleyes:

[NoMyths]

Hehe, nice Kwhit, I post about not construing anything from my statements are you construe something from that very post?
:rolleyes:Ooooh...now get upset enough to reveal that he's a werewolf! *gets rope ready* :D

[Joe]

Could be worse, can you imagine playing this game with the timestamp bug in effect?


Man, that would really suck.

[KevinNU7]

I'm suspicous of both Lathum and Condors. Lathum was voted off first and all the villagers were sad for him. Some have even said they wouldn't vote for him first this road. Seems like the perfect person for Peregrine to make a werewolf for this road. Condors is suspicious because... well... I always vote for him :D

[Joe]

on an unrelated note, this game is really good for increasing post counts. :)

[Mustang]

I'm suspicous of both Lathum and Condors. Lathum was voted off first and all the villagers were sad for him.

eh.. I hope everything is a little more random otherwise everyone will fall into that trap of Hey, X was a wolf last time he couldn't be a wolf this time or vice versa.. could lead to alot of unnecessary lynchings.

Depending on other people's logic, I might just go for the least active poster without a valid explanation. going to be lazy and cost someone else a spot.. it'll cost ya. :D

[Eaglesfan27]

eh.. I hope everything is a little more random otherwise everyone will fall into that trap of Hey, X was a wolf last time he couldn't be a wolf this time or vice versa.. could lead to alot of unnecessary lynchings.

Depending on other people's logic, I might just go for the least active poster without a valid explanation. going to be lazy and cost someone else a spot.. it'll cost ya. :D

I agree that I hope everything is more random than any predictable patterns based on the last game.

[BrianD]

I'm guessing that all of the roles were given out randomly. That is really the only way to do things fairly.

At this point, I think I'm leaning towards Condors, but I don't have really good reason for it.

[Neuqua]

Ok, so I am a bit tardy to the party but that doesn't mean I'm evil! I swear!

I wasn't expecting a killing on the first night really, and now am basically in the process of trying to figure out who I am going to have to look out for, I am almost compelled to just lock my room up and stay inside until I deem it is safe.

[Joe]

I really have no idea. Its hard with only half or so of the people posting. Hopefully we'll hear from the quieter ones later on.

[NoMyths]

I really have no idea. Its hard with only half or so of the people posting. Hopefully we'll hear from the quieter ones later on.Not if we kill them first. ;)

[Swaggs]

Well... I'm heading out of town until Sunday in a bit and want to get my vote in.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that someone has been uncharacteristically quiet and I Vote For Shorty

[Qwikshot]

Stuck at work, will be posting later...

BURN THE WITCH!!!

[Joe]

dang, i didnt even remember shorty was in this

[Eaglesfan27]

Get Shorty does have a certain ring to it.

[korme]

Dola -

To clarify, I just woke up. Don't lynch me because I slept in late ;)
I, too slept in late. As you can all see, I was the last one up the first night, making sure everyone was safe from wolf eatin'

[korme]

Well... I'm heading out of town until Sunday in a bit and want to get my vote in.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that someone has been uncharacteristically quiet and I Vote For Shorty
Dude, I was getting this thing started at early hours of the morning. Making me the scapegoat for your "out of town, out of mind" idea is not very wise.

Vote Swaggs

[NoMyths]

I, too slept in late. As you can all see, I was the last one up the first night, making sure everyone was safe from wolf eatin'Hmm...everyone except the villager you were eating, maybe!

[Neuqua]

Oooh, to pick between my online league brethren.. Swaggs or Shorty...

[BrianD]

So, Swaggs and Shorty voted for each other, and Desnudo and Condors voted for each other. Sounds like some of the villagers are having their own grudge match. :)

[korme]

Just because I have cast my vote doesn't mean I will not change it. Let us take a look at NoMyth's sketchiness, shall we?

*spurred by Mustang's comments, NoMyths stands up, pulls out a silver letter opener, and then cuts his arm (slightly...don't need any gaping wounds to attract wolves) a few times with the blade to show that he isn't a werewolf* First, NoMyths feels it is necessary to lurk, going an entire page (50 posts for me) without posting. As soon as someone questions the people who have been quiet, NoMyths comes out and feels that he MUST say he is a villager, right off the bat, very unusual compared to everyone else.

How about I offer everyone who doesn't vote to lynch me a free hooker each night, since in this town I just happen to be the king pimp? Again, here, NoMyths asserts that he wants everyone's help so he can be kept safe for this journey. King Pimp? How does one earn such a title? Do "pimps" bite their prey on the neck?

As long as Whitney Houston doesn't suddenly appear and burst into song, I'm all for it.

Then again, if she did show up, I think we could all take pleasure in that particular lynching. Desperate to get attention on someone else, NM tries unsuccessfully to have people try and lynch a player not even involved in the game.

Maybe you slept late...because you were up eating villagers last night! http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif With the deadline tonight, NM feels some urgency and seriously tries to get people to turn their heads to someone else, Eaglesfan. The wink fools no one, NoMyths is trying to let everyone get their minds off of him and onto anyone else.

Ooooh...now get upset enough to reveal that he's a werewolf! *gets rope ready* http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif He "playfully" tries to make out the leader to be a werewolf. Poorly played.

Hmm...everyone except the villager you were eating, maybe! And finally, NoMyths' latest attempt to jump on somebody, again trying to make another person a suspect. The more people suspects, the less likely he'll be exposed as a werewolf himself.

Desperation is a stinky cologne NoMyths. I voted Swaggs in retaliation, because he voted me blindly. But I have reason now.

Unvote Swaggs
Vote NoMyths

[NoMyths]

Just because I have cast my vote doesn't mean I will not change it. Let us take a look at NoMyth's sketchiness, shall we?[/b]Heck, he's right! I'm voting for this NoMyths character...er, uh, wait a second...

[KWhit]

Hehe, nice Kwhit, I post about not construing anything from my statements are you construe something from that very post?
:rolleyes:
It's your fault. You turned me into the paranoid mess that I am!!!

:p

[NoMyths]

Although I suppose if Shorty's gunning for me, I'd better tack on the second vote for him...guess that'll get us closer to lynching someone.

Vote Shorty

[korme]

Although I suppose if Shorty's gunning for me, I'd better tack on the second vote for him...guess that'll get us closer to lynching someone.

Vote Shorty
You play right into my theory. This is not a surprising vote.

Friends, let's make the obvious choice the right choice. NoMyths will be the first werewolf to be gone.

[Neuqua]

It is still early, and since I am going to head out for a few hours, Shorty has come up with a good enough argument for me to go ahead and Vote NoMyths

[BrianD]

I don't know what to do now. This may change but....

I vote Condors

[NoMyths]

Ack! I was just trying to contribute to the discussion since I don't work today...didn't want it to have me get killed off. :(

Fwiw, I guarantee I'm not a werewolf. :)

[Joe]

Until I read over the previous posts, I won't know for sure if I will change or not. But for right now I vote for the one person (I think) that hasn't been heard from.

I vote for Airhog

[NoMyths]

You know, Shorty laying low until this later hour is suspicious enough, but trying to provide shaky reasons on top of it? Forget the retributioon vote...I'm convinced that he's a werewolf after all.

[korme]

NM, like Pere said, 'guaranteeing' anything is retarded and goes against the whole idea of a suspenseful game. Your statements of defense mean nothing. You had it coming, accusing everyone left and right. Why couldn't you fetch some water or something? You had to go and start jumping on people.

You deserve what's coming to you.

[NoMyths]

Bah...accusing my ass. I'd have voted for someone if I thought they were actually a wolf. Which I have.

Figured if I was around this afternoon, might as well have some fun with it. Didn't realize you'd delurk just in time to deflect attention from yourself.

You die tonight, werewolf.

[ntndeacon]

As others have said, this may change. However I shall go with the werewolf that changed my post to avert suspicion from himself.
I vote for Desnudo

[korme]

*throws silver spoons at NoMyths*

[NoMyths]

*throws silver spoons at NoMyths**uses them to eat a nice bowl of vegetarian soup*

*holds up a picture of Lassie to see if werewolf lust causes Shorty to get excited*

[BrianD]

Wow, voting all over the place today. Anybody got enough time on their hands to collect all the votes and create a scorecard?

[korme]

Vegetarian soup? Are you afraid that if you start eating meat now you won't be able to contain yourself and might kill a villager before night tonight?

[BrianD]

*holds up a picture of Lassie to see if werewolf lust causes Shorty to get excited*

Wouldn't that get him excited even if he wasn't a werewolf? :D

[korme]

Votes for... (8 of 19)
Airhog - 1 (George W Bush)
condors - 1 (BrianD)
Desnudo - 2 (condors, ntndeacon)
NoMyths - 2 (Neuqua, Shorty)
Shorty - 2 (NoMyths, Swaggs)

[TazFTW]

Shorty's vote change intrigues me. He voted Swaggs out of spite, a very werewolfie thing to do. That analysis of NoMyths comments is also very fishy.

Then again NoMyths just went with the "I guarantee I'm not a werewolf". Which is either BS (NM is a wolf) or true (NM is not a wolf but could possibly be a sorceror trying to get the wolves to win).

From what I've seen last game, it is not wise for the wolves to block vote. Why not vote for each other and if 1 dies, the other might be construed as the seer and lasts longer in the game. With that,

I Vote for Shorty

[Eaglesfan27]

Despite my somewhat lame joke, I find Shorty's ideas quite intriguing. I may change my mind, but I vote for NoMyths.

[Jon]

While I find Shorty's analysis intriguing as well, it just seems he's trying too hard to deflect the attention from himself to NoMyths. So, at least for now,
I vote for Shorty

[McSweeny]

this is pretty tough

i can see good cases for both Shorty and NoMyths. Could they both be werewolves and are using the plan outlined by Taz?

[Joe]

Having read through some interesting posts, it's time to change the vote.

Unvote Airhog
Vote Shorty

[McSweeny]

i'm about to head out for a few hours so i'll make my vote now. I seem to find myself agreeing with Jon, so with that...

Vote Shorty

[BrianD]

Looks like the bandwagon is forming.

Unvote Condors
Vote Shorty

[korme]

Wow, this is what I like to call bullshit bandwagon voting. There is no reason to assume I am a werewolf, and now I am probably going to be the first lynched. Why would I be a werewolf? From the get go, people just start claiming that I was quiet (I was fuckin' asleep), and 1 vote starts the masses. This is crap really. Instead of someone like NM who repeatedly kept pushing blame on other people, I get massive votes for defending myself with a well thought plan. Right. Very shallow, fellas.

[KevinNU7]

For a lack of posting and taking someone else spot I vote Airhog

[Mustang]

For a lack of posting and taking someone else spot I vote Airhog

I stated that several posts ago I would follow this 'logic'.

I vote Airhog

Although, there are a few well reasoned out posts in here that might sway me to jump on the bandwagon.

I find it odd that NoMyths is a little too happy over Shorty getting all the attention, hmm.. I think most people are a little apprehensive about ending someone's game this early... He is just toooooo giddy.. :D If Airhog comes around, my vote will swing to NoMyths...

[BrianD]

Anyone know where Airhog has been?

I've got serious questions about both NoMyths and Shorty. NM was tossing accusations around everywhere taking an "anybody but me approach". Clearly he was trying to get the heat off of him, but not really placing it on anyone else. Is this because he is a wolf and doesn't care where the heat goes, or because he is not a wolf but doesn't know a wolf to put the heat on?

Shorty has been very focused with his heat. It seems a little odd that he would be so certain that NM needs to go since we really can't know who the wolves are. I could see him being the wolf and trying to get a known villager lynched. Of course he might have noticed the heat on himself and figured the only way to get the heat off was to put it on one other person, and NM was convenient.

I could totally argue myself in either direction for both of these guys. Anybody else want to make an argument?

I plan on being around for a while before the deadline, so I'll have plenty of times to read the arguments.

[Peregrine]

I'm leaving for the evening shortly, and will be back to post the lynch results after 11. Wolves/Doctor/Bodyguard/Seer/Sorceror/Witness can PM me anytime they wish. I'll reveal the results during the night turn as usual.

[korme]

I will make the arguement that your guess is as good as mine, and the person that has given me the most questions is NoMyths, inadvertantly. I'm trying to avoid being lynched here, so I have to carefully play my hand here. I'm down like 7 votes to whoever is close (I think Airhog, Des and NM have 2 each), which sucks because one more day will go without a werewolf dying unless things change..

[Jon]

I just don't think a wolf would work so hard to guarantee that they weren't a wolf as they would suddenly make themselves an immediate target and a likely subject of the first lynching. Shorty, I think, focused on an easy target to deflect attention from himself. Now, if he comes up with a better explanation, I might change my mind.

[korme]

That's a joke Jon. Because, if you would read, I pointed out that NM's very first post was to claim that he was a villager and not a wolf.

My first post? Saying how I, like EF woke up late. I didn't get defensive until punches started landing my way. What would you have done? Taken a knee?

Your theory has holes in it, and it's a lazy bullshit response to vote for me after obviously not even reading this thread.

[Jon]

Nothing personal. It just seems like you took the ball and ran with it to focus on No Myths. Outside of his guarantee that he's not a wolf, what makes you think he's a wolf?

[Airhog]

You know some of us do have jobs :D I havent even been on until 5 minutes ago. Nice to see people voting for me only on the basis of that 1 item. Of course, this early in the game you are really just shooting blanks here. I havent had time to properly read this thread so I am witholding a vote for now, besides I need to go cook some huma...err chicken for dinner. :D

[Mustang]

Either that steam coming off of Shorty is part of an act to make us think that he is mock upset and really is a werewolf.. (See KevinNU's jackass comment in the last game) OR he really is an innocent..

hmmm...

I think NoMyths is going to hang or Shorty is... either way they are targets for the Seer and further lynchings...

[korme]

Chill. It's a game. You took the ball and ran with it to focus on No Myths. Outside of his guarantee that he's not a wolf, what makes you think he's a wolf?
Again, did you read the lengthy post I spent analyzing his posts. Read that, and thus you will find the reason's why I suspect him.

I know it's a game, but at the same time, I am fighting for my chance to see another day here.. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Mustang]

Nice to see people voting for me only on the basis of that 1 item.

Just the nature of trying to make sure people are active. :D

Unvote Airhog

Vote NoMyths

[KWhit]

Hmmmm.... The exchanges between Shorty and NoMyths are just bizarre. My guess right now is that one of them is a wolf.

Vote NoMyths.

[Airhog]

nomyths 5
shorty 4
desnudo 2
condors 1
airhog 1

[Airhog]

Personally I dont think the werewolf would be so vocal in the beginning. I think the werewolf would be someone that would join the bandwagon so to speak. They want to try to draw the least amount of attention to themselves. Also, I dont think the wolves would vote for the same person unless that person was already getting alot of vote.

[korme]

nomyths 5
shorty 4
desnudo 2
condors 1
airhog 1
i think you have severely miscounted for the better of me. i counted 7 votes for me http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif

[Mustang]

Also, I dont think the wolves would vote for the same person unless that person was already getting alot of vote.

actually, that is exactly what happened last game. If the wolves were paying attention they probably won't make that mistake again.. then again, everyone else knows this too...

[Joe]

Personally I dont think the werewolf would be so vocal in the beginning. I think the werewolf would be someone that would join the bandwagon so to speak. They want to try to draw the least amount of attention to themselves. Also, I dont think the wolves would vote for the same person unless that person was already getting alot of vote.

Are you sure about that? Last game I was very vocal in the beginning. Werewolf strategy can be anything.

[Joe]

I think this is where the voting stands, unless I am mistaken. I believe Airhog was off.

Votes for... (15 of 19)
Airhog - 1 (KevinNU7)
Desnudo - 2 (condors, ntndeacon)
NoMyths - 5 (Neuqua, Shorty, EaglesFan27, KWhit, Mustang)
Shorty - 7 (NoMyths, Swaggs, TazFTW, Jon, George W Bush, McSweeney, BrianD)

[BrianD]

Ok, I think I need to throw a wrench in things. We've had Shorty on top of the lynching list for a few hours, and nobody has been trying to argue for votes for anyone else. NoMyths has a number of votes, but nobody is trying to sway votes away from Shorty and to NoMyths...or anyone else. If Shorty was a wolf, he'd be getting some help from somewhere since time is running out. I'm starting to think my vote for shorty may be misplaced, but I don't know where it should go.

[Qwikshot]

So I return home from work...play a little GTA: San Andreas...

Still mulling over who I should pick...

I'm leaning towards NM or Shorty...

[Jon]

Maybe Shorty's wolf cohort is drying to keep quiet and voted for someone else?

[korme]

Ok, I think I need to throw a wrench in things. We've had Shorty on top of the lynching list for a few hours, and nobody has been trying to argue for votes for anyone else. NoMyths has a number of votes, but nobody is trying to sway votes away from Shorty and to NoMyths...or anyone else. If Shorty was a wolf, he'd be getting some help from somewhere since time is running out. I'm starting to think my vote for shorty may be misplaced, but I don't know where it should go.
Never thought of it that way (since I'm friggin innocent), but you are right. My wolf compadres would be up in arms about me being leading vote getter. I'm convinced Jon has his mind made, so I will let him keep speculating. All I can hope is that there are a turn of votes.

[BrianD]

Maybe Shorty's wolf cohort is drying to keep quiet and voted for someone else?

And letting Shorty stay on top of the lynch list? That seems like a silly strategy.

[Qwikshot]

And letting Shorty stay on top of the lynch list? That seems like a silly strategy.

And yet, you seem to be the only one defending him...

[korme]

Yet, BrianD at this point is voting for me Qwik. Trust me, I am not a wolf and I don't know about Brian, but if we were tag team werewolf partners he probably wouldn't be voting for me. Not saying he can't be swayed later to change his vote (and hopefully he will be), but it certainly isn't for our sake.

[BrianD]

Yes, I figured someone would say that. But would I call for this strategy and then use it? That would seem pretty obvious and stupid. The fact that nobody is going to bat for Shorty makes me think that the wolves don't care if he gets lynched. This makes me uncomfortable.

Unvote Shorty
Vote NoMyths

And yes I do realize that if I am wrong about this and Shorty gets lynched and is a wolf, I'm a big target.

[Jon]

And letting Shorty stay on top of the lynch list? That seems like a silly strategy.


D@% Comcast! I couldn't finish the post since the freaking moden went out again. I was going to add that the other wolves would probably wait until the last few hours to start a frenzy of vote switching, just before they had a feeding frenzy.

I just don't believe that No Myths is a wolf. I don't see anyone playing such an obvious strategy to be a wolf.

[Airhog]

I vote for Desnudo

[Desnudo]

Well,

I vote for Airhog then :p

I've also accumulated two "personal vendetta" votes from condors and deacon. Remind me not to make a joke in this thread again. Nobody is above suspicion at this point, but I think I've clearly explained the timing of my postings.

[BrianD]

D@% Comcast! I couldn't finish the post since the freaking moden went out again. I was going to add that the other wolves would probably wait until the last few hours to start a frenzy of vote switching, just before they had a feeding frenzy.

I just don't believe that No Myths is a wolf. I don't see anyone playing such an obvious strategy to be a wolf.

I'm not sure that he is either, I just don't know who seems like he is a wolf.

[Jon]

Never thought of it that way (since I'm friggin innocent), but you are right. My wolf compadres would be up in arms about me being leading vote getter. I'm convinced Jon has his mind made, so I will let him keep speculating. All I can hope is that there are a turn of votes.

If you can convince me to change my vote, then I might......I'm just trying to pass the time since the Yanks can't do anything.

[TazFTW]

Updating the vote count since I don't want to keep going back a page. (I'm basing it off GWB's post)

Votes for... (17 of 19)
Airhog - 2 (KevinNU7, Desnudo)
Desnudo - 3 (condors, ntndeacon, Airhog)
NoMyths - 6 (Neuqua, Shorty, EaglesFan27, KWhit, Mustang, BrianD)
Shorty - 6 (NoMyths, Swaggs, TazFTW, Jon, George W Bush, McSweeney)

[Joe]

who hasnt voted yet?

[TazFTW]

Lathum and Qwikshot

[BrianD]

I wonder why they haven't voted yet. Is one of them a wolf waiting to cast a swing vote on a villager?

[Qwikshot]

I wonder why they haven't voted yet. Is one of them a wolf waiting to cast a swing vote on a villager?

Pfft...still got an hour. Like I said, playing GTA...

But if you want, I'll vote.

[Qwikshot]

Seeing both went guns blazing...and since there is a deadlock, I really can't decide between NoMyths and Shorty...cheese pizza is cooking for me.

Vote: Shorty

Don't really think it's NoMyths, Shorty got highly defensive, the only guy really defending him is BrianD, so I at least see a support group there, NoMyths no one has spoken up for, so I'm guessing he's just a lowly villager.

[BrianD]

Don't really think it's NoMyths, Shorty got highly defensive, the only guy really defending him is BrianD, so I at least see a support group there, NoMyths no one has spoken up for, so I'm guessing he's just a lowly villager.

I've got a feeling that they are both lowly villagers. Maybe the reason nobody is really defending anyone (except for me, and I know I'm not a wolf) is that we are just completely off and haven't named a wolf yet. Is there anyone we haven't talked about that we should talk about?

[Eaglesfan27]

Don't you think a wolf would be careful about defending them even if they were a wolf. I think it would cast too much suspicion. Therefore, I don't think we can take a lack of a defense as a sure sign that both are innocent villagers.

[BrianD]

I'm utterly confused. This vote will help no one, but here goes.

Unvote NoMyths
Vote Neuqua

He quietly joined in when we were talking about people that were too quiet, voted for one of the bandwagon guys and then hasn't been heard from. I'm thinking he might be trying to avoid notice.

[BrianD]

Don't you think a wolf would be careful about defending them even if they were a wolf. I think it would cast too much suspicion. Therefore, I don't think we can take a lack of a defense as a sure sign that both are innocent villagers.

I'm thinking that losing a wolf this early is a serious victory for the villagers. The wolves wouldn't be able to allow this to happen.

[Lathum]

OK, I was out all day, like I said I would be. I just read everything and it is quite confusing. I know where Shorty is because last game I was right there. I just don't thinnk I can vote for him because I know the torment it caused me. This is probably gonna backfire on me, but Aorhog has been realy quiet.

I Vote for Airhog

[Neuqua]

I guess you can say I won't be one of those who is going to use Werewolf to JeeberD my post count :)

Honestly it's just so early to make a decision one way or the other. I'm just gathering my own thoughts along with the rest of the communities.

But now it's on!

[Mustang]

He quietly joined in when we were talking about people that were too quiet, voted for one of the bandwagon guys and then hasn't been heard from. I'm thinking he might be trying to avoid notice.

Same as NoMyths. NoMyths was quite the chatterbox as Shorty was being led to the gallows but, as the votes started up, I haven't heard word one from NoMyths to defend himself.

Of course, that could be because NoMyths is out for the night...

[Lathum]

Same as NoMyths. NoMyths was quite the chatterbox as Shorty was being led to the gallows but, as the votes started up, I haven't heard word one from NoMyths to defend himself.

Of course, that could be because NoMyths is out for the night...
Out for good ?

Or our eating people?

[Mustang]

Of course, we could each just vote for ourselves and state "I vote for myself because I am the werewolf!"

Peregrine said any ties would be broken by picking the one with the best case state.. well, the best case stated would have to be the werewolf.. everyone else is just lying. :p :D :D

[Lathum]

Of course, we could each just vote for ourselves and state "I vote for myself because I am the werewolf!"

Peregrine said any ties would be broken by picking the one with the best case state.. well, the best case stated would have to be the werewolf.. everyone else is just lying. :p :D :D
Well that sounds suspiscous?

[Mustang]

Well, my vote will have to stand. Work calls so, I probably won't be able to check on anything for a bit...

[Lathum]

when is the deadline?

[NoMyths]

Same as NoMyths. NoMyths was quite the chatterbox as Shorty was being led to the gallows but, as the votes started up, I haven't heard word one from NoMyths to defend himself.

Of course, that could be because NoMyths is out for the night...Talking started getting me hung. Seems like shutting up is the best option. :(

Been at a Charleston RiverDogs game tonight, though. Nothing like a little single-A baseball on a Friday night. Hitting the sack now, though...hope to see you guys tomorrow, unhung and uneaten.

[BrianD]

when is the deadline?

Any minute now.

[Lathum]

Any minute now.
tick tock tick tock

[TazFTW]

You seem to be pretty antsy. Got a villager to eat after the lynching?

[Lathum]

Sure do, better be carefull

[Mustang]

Well that sounds suspiscous?

*L*

Nooo.. just a joke. :)

[Peregrine]

Your group has heated discussions all through the day, but in the end it comes to voting, and Shorty gets the short straw. At the end, with everyone surrounding him, he starts to mount an impassioned defense of his innocence but is cut short by several people with knives stabbing him to death. Unfortunately, he is an innocent villager.

Votes:

Airhog - 3 (KevinNU7, Desnudo, Lathum)
Desnudo - 3 (condors, ntndeacon, Airhog)
NoMyths - 5 (Neuqua, Shorty, EaglesFan27, KWhit, Mustang)
Shorty - 7 (NoMyths, Swaggs, TazFTW, Jon, George W Bush, McSweeny, Qwikshot)
Neuqua - 1 BrianD


Night Turn 2

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW
Airhog
NoMyths
Qwikshot
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Night draws close. I need PMs from the wolves, doctor, bodyguard, seer, and sorceror if I don't already have them.

[Fonzie]

Poor Shorty. We hardly knew thee...

[Peregrine]

Sorry Shorty. :( The one thing I dislike about this game is that someone has to die early, and it's usually an innocent since the rest of the people have nothing to go on.

[Airhog]

I knew Shorty wasn't a werewolf. However someone had to be lynched this first day without any sort of clues to go on. It's really a coin toss as to who to choose. No hard feelings Desnudo. I didnt vote for you to be lynched because I thought you were a werewolf, so much as a didnt think Shorty or Nomyths was one. I guess I could have abstained from the vote, but that might have been construed as being suspicious.

[Peregrine]

I guess I could have abstained from the vote, but that might have been construed as being suspicious

I can tell you that abstaining is very suspicious. It comes off like you either can't vote for either candidate since you know something, or that you don't want to give anyone more analysis of your voting pattern. I expect the occasional missed vote due to RL considerations but abstain at your own risk. ;)

[NoMyths]

Night draws close. I need PMs from the wolves, doctor, bodyguard, seer, and sorceror if I don't already have them.Well, at least we now know which roles exist in the game, and don't have to guesstimate the others.

And thanks for not hanging me, guys. Now just don't eat me. :)

[NoMyths]

I knew Shorty wasn't a werewolf.How did you know Shorty wasn't a werewolf?

[Airhog]

Because im the werewolf!

[NoMyths]

Because im the werewolf!Uh...?

[Airhog]

Yeah, and I plan on eating Neuqua next!

[NoMyths]

Yeah, and I plan on eating Neuqua next!Well, if this is so, here's a song in honor of your boldness, sung by the inimitable Chan Marshall:

Oh the werewolf, oh the werewolf
Comes a steppin' along
He don't even break the branches
Where he's been gone

You can hear his long holler from away 'cross the moor
That's the holler of a werewolf when he's feelin' poor

He goes out in the evenin' when the bats 're on the wing
An' he's killed some young maiden before the birds sing

For the werewolf, for the werewolf
Have sympathy
'Cause the werewolf he is someone
Just like you an' me

Once I saw him in the moonlight when the bats were a flyin'
All alone I saw the werewolf and the werewolf was cryin'

Cryin' nobody, nobody, nobody knows
How much I love the maiden as I tear off his cloths
Cryin' nobody, nobody, knows of my pain
When I see it has risen that full moon again

When I see that moon movin' through the clouds in the sky
I get a crazy feelin' an' I wonder why

Oh the werewolf, Oh the werewolf
Comes travelin' along
He don't even break the branches
Where he's been gone

For the werewolf have pity, not fear, an' not hate
'Cause the werewolf might be someone that you've known of late

Oh the werewolf, oh the werewolf
Comes travelin' along
He don't even crush the leaves
Where he's been gone

[Mustang]

How did you know Shorty wasn't a werewolf?

I didn't think Shorty was a werewolf myself because he seemed generally miffed at being tagged as a werewolf and that everyone jumped on his bandwagon.

[Eaglesfan27]

I didn't think Shorty was a werewolf myself because he seemed generally miffed at being tagged as a werewolf and that everyone jumped on his bandwagon.

As if the werewolf wouldn't? Well, unless it was Airhog who seems to delight in declaring his wolven nature.

[Neuqua]

Yeah, and I plan on eating Neuqua next!


:: Locks room and hides under his bedsheets ::

[Mustang]

As if the werewolf wouldn't? Well, unless it was Airhog who seems to delight in declaring his wolven nature.

Never said a wolf wouldn't be miffed... just meant he sounded genuine in his defense. But.. whatever the reason we were both right in not voting for Shorty.. Us voting for NoMyths is to be determined.

[ntndeacon]

I kinda think that none of us picked a werewolf. Of course, I am just going on last game patterns at this point.

[Neuqua]

I just realized that at this point Airhog has just about screwed me over.

Claiming to want to eat me randomly like that is going to bring everyones suspicions my way. Heck, if he had chosen ANY one else I would have my mind on them as being a possible werewolf too so I can't blame you guys.

I'm innocent though! Really! Don't sacrifice yet another one of yourselves!

[Eaglesfan27]

I just realized that at this point Airhog has just about screwed me over.

Claiming to want to eat me randomly like that is going to bring everyones suspicions my way. Heck, if he had chosen ANY one else I would have my mind on them as being a possible werewolf too so I can't blame you guys.

I'm innocent though! Really! Don't sacrifice yet another one of yourselves!
Maybe it's the alcohol or maybe it's the late time of night, but I don't follow your reasoning.. Airhog's proclaimation that he is a werewolf and that he is going to eat you, puts my suspicion firmly on his shoulders.

[Lathum]

Sorry Shorty, I know how you are feeling. Airhogs comments are very interesting. If Neuqua does get eatin first is it Airhog playing reverse psycology? although Neuqua voted for BrianD and he was the only one to do so, that always looks very strange to me, like either he knows something the rest of us don't or they are both werewolves trying to protect each other since neither of them were in much danger.

[BrianD]

Sorry Shorty, I know how you are feeling. Airhogs comments are very interesting. If Neuqua does get eatin first is it Airhog playing reverse psycology? although Neuqua voted for BrianD and he was the only one to do so, that always looks very strange to me, like either he knows something the rest of us don't or they are both werewolves trying to protect each other since neither of them were in much danger.

Easy there, BrianD voted for Neuqua, not the other way around. I really only did that because I wasn't feeling good about the Shorty vote. Keep in mind as well that I was the only one to say something in defense of Shorty. Actually, it wasn't in his defense, I just pointed out that nobody was trying to defend him so that must make him innocent.

[Lathum]

Easy there, BrianD voted for Neuqua, not the other way around. I really only did that because I wasn't feeling good about the Shorty vote. Keep in mind as well that I was the only one to say something in defense of Shorty. Actually, it wasn't in his defense, I just pointed out that nobody was trying to defend him so that must make him innocent.
I see your logic, but defending someone puts a big bullseye on your back, err..throat. :D

[Peregrine]

Still waiting for multiple people to PM me for their night turn actions. Once I have those I'll set Sunday night late for the lynching deadline I think.

[Joe]

looks like our initial theory of the slackers might be correct

[ntndeacon]

Death to the Wereolf slackers!