Werewolf IV - River of Darkness

[Peregrine]

The village of River's Edge is located in an area of steep mountains, icy rivers, and dark forests. It's on the edge of the civilized areas, as north from the village is little but trackless mountains and forest occupied by monsters, outlaws, and the occasional tiny settlement of foresters. To the south across the river is the two day journey to the nearest large town. The springtime floods hit the village hard, as the southern river floods almost every year and blocks access to the south for weeks at a time. Currently the floodwaters are subsiding a little, but continued rain and mountain thaw keep the river well over its banks and flooding the road, making access to the south impossible. It is expected that the road will clear in a week or so, perhaps a little less. Most of the population of the village went south before the floods, to trade and find work around the prosperous town.

The village has long heard the rumors about the evil cult of magicians somewhere to the north, and in fact some in the village have done well in providing supplies to their isolated cliffside compound. Though many knew or suspected that the magicians, who call themselves the Dark Pact, were up to no good, no harm had ever come to the village from them. Recently, however, disturbances from that area of the mountains have been hard to hide, it is said that vast magical destruction has been wreaked, with whole forests falling to ash and some of the few roads in the area blasted to ruin. It is not known what has sparked the destruction, however quiet whispers now say that some of the magicians have infiltrated the village, though their purpose is unknown. Some of the villagers believe quite strongly that they are evil, while others are unsure. Around the same time, mysterious deaths were reported in the village area, for the first time in many years. Disappearances were reported, but also corpses were found, some seemed to have no obvious cause of death but others were mauled as if by animals.

Many in the village wanted to flee the place and escape south, but the flooded river has made that impossible. Most of the people now huddle in their houses and wait to see what will happen next, though there is a growing anger and desire to find and kill those responsible for the deaths. The only hopeful sign for the village is that there are rumors that men loyal to the King have come to the town in secret, knights sent to protect the town and investigate what is happening. Whether or not that is true no one knows. The town has always been a magical place, and if strangers have come they have taken the shapes of villagers you have known all your lives. Will the mysterious deaths continue? Will the villagers act to protect themselves? Will anyone leave the village alive or will you all be swallowed by the River of Darkness?

[Peregrine]

Most of the rules are the same as the last game, however there are some differences. If there are any questions about the rules, please ask, I may have missed something. Also note that some of the groups have special rules that will be revealed to them via PM.

Warning - These are rules that I have made up and are more complicated than most games of werewolf, so I'm not sure how it will play out or whether it will be perfectly balanced. Hopefully I will be able to improve the rules based on the outcome of this game. I'm particularly unsure about the Ghosts rule, while I want people to be able to stay involved, it may prove unbalancing, we'll see. I also expect this to be a fairly quick and violent game, with lots of deaths, so be prepared.

Communications

You will be notified at the start of the game if you are allowed to PM any other players and who. If you don't hear otherwise, secret communication between any players is prohibited.

Missing Players

If a player has missed two votes in a row he will be removed and replaced by an alternate at the moderator's discretion.

Secret Roles

Obviously I am not revealing the specifics of any role, suffice it to say every character will have a role, however some are passive abilities and some are active. As appropriate, in my day/night turn descriptions I will try to give at least an idea of what happened if an unexpected result occurred. Also I will in some cases notify players about what happened. For example if there is a role or roles that can prevent an attack from occurring at night, usually the attackers will have some idea of what stopped them, unlike the last game. Other actions may not be explained until the end of the game.

Role Revelation

Roles are not revealed on death in this game. During the night turn, there are roles that can view one of the people that died the day before and learn his faction or role. There are some roles that may be functionally revealed by changes after a death (note the Ghosts rule below) but there will only rarely be a moderator announcement to reveal any role. At the end of the game all roles are revealed.

Timing

The two phases will be in the order of Day 1 - Night 1 - Day 2 - Night 2. Note that this is the reverse of how it was in the last game. The game will start with Night 0, which will include certain night actions but not all of them, I will inform everyone individually at the start of the game. The game will end at the end of Day 6, at that point the survivors, if any, can leave the village and victory will be totalled up.

Victory Conditions

Each group in the village has specific victory conditions in this game. You will be notified of your victory conditions via PM at the beginning of the game. It's very possible for more than one group to win this game! There will be the potential for each group to score a major or a minor victory.

Night Actions

There are a LOT of night actions in this game. The deadline for telling me what you want to do is midnight eastern. If you know you can't make that deadline, send something in earlier, even during the day. Conditional actions (View X, or view Y if X was lynched) are allowed. Anyone who misses the deadline will miss that action.

Voting

Please put your votes in bold. If you change your vote, use UNVOTE X, VOTE Y so there is no confusion, please do not edit your voting posts. The deadline for all votes to be in is 8 pm Eastern. If there is a tie in the lynch voting, there will not be a lynch that day. If you will not be available at the deadline make sure to place your vote earlier in the day!

Ghosts

The village you are in is extremely magical, and ghosts of people that die here seem attracted to it. There is one villager role who can intensify the ghostly essences, to the extent that they can communicate with the village in a limited way. While that villager is alive, ghosts can continue to vote for the daily lynching, however they cannot communicate in any other way. Also keep in mind that while some ghosts continue to vote as they would in life, to support their group or the village, others are angry at those that killed them, particularly the lynched ones, and they may vote to take revenge on those that killed them, innocent or not. Other ghosts may vote chaotically. If the villager who strengthens the ghosts is killed, they will be unable to vote after that point.

Since ghosts are allowed to vote, it is extremely important that players who have been killed not post any kind of speculation or theories about what's going on in the game.

Day 1 will start on Tuesday. Night 0 actions may be returned to me any time before 9 am Eastern on Tuesday morning.

[Peregrine]

Here is the player list as it stands now. If you are on this list and are NOT able to play, please let me know ASAP. Also I will need a couple of volunteers as alternates.

[kingfc22]

I'll be an alt

[Desnudo]

People who have not posted yet:

Eaglesfan27
ntndeacon
BrianD
Airhog
TazFTW
Fonzie
Qwikshot
Jeff061
SirFozzie
Barkeep49
KevinNU7
Swaggs
Nomyths
Jon
Tigercat
Lathum


The spotlight is on you!

[Eaglesfan27]

ROFL :)

As I just told Peregrine via PM, Weds through Friday I'll be working a new job and might not have internet access for those few days during the work day (the government can be slow processing paperwork to get me internet access.) However, I'll be home by 5:00PM (give or take a few minutes of traffic) central time each day. I'll also be checking this thread in the early morning before work each day. So, I think that will be plenty of time to read everything, post, stir up some hysteria, and hopefully hang some werewolves.

Hopefully, I don't need to be excluded due to this, but would understand if Peregrine does do this.


Edit to clarify: My work day will be about 8:00 AM til about 5:00 PM Central time those on Wed-Fri.

[Barkeep49]

This village used to be such a nice place I tell you! First the mysterious disappearences and now the flood? I think things are clear! God is sending us a message! We must all repent and repent now before the evil infects us any further.

[Buccaneer]

Fascinating set of rules but perhaps will make it a little harder for non-participants to follow since we really won't know anything (since roles are not revealed) of what goes on behind the scene.

[Joe]

you sons of bitches are all werewolves!

[ntndeacon]

no it is the magicians that are killing us not the werewolves!

[TazFTW]

It is the ghosts' fault.

[SirFozzie]

Blame Canada

[Tigercat]

Would werewolf taste like human or like chinese food meat? And would you want to boil it before grilling it?

[Peregrine]

Fascinating set of rules but perhaps will make it a little harder for non-participants to follow since we really won't know anything (since roles are not revealed) of what goes on behind the scene.

Yes, this is definitely true. Of course even the players won't know everything that's going on. I'm going to be making my daily updates more extensive and more story like so hopefully that will give spectators more to go on.

Also NoMyths has said he can't play.

[Ragone]

i'll be an alt :)

I'm on vacation for 2 weeks.. so this is likely the only game i'll be able to get in on :)

[heybrad]

Just curious if you didnt get my response or somehow I didnt meet the criteria.

[Desnudo]

Hey, Brad

[Fouts]

I am available, should you need more people.

[Peregrine]

No, heybrad, Kwhit is going to be running another game and has you on his list, I just PMed you about it before we decided how we were going to do it.

[heybrad]

Alrighty then.

[Peregrine]

Most of the people on the list will be able to play, the ones I haven't heard from in this post or elsewhere are Fonzie, Qwikshot, Kevin (who is gone through Tuesday,) Swaggs, and Jon. I think most of them will be able to do it though. Once I get a good list I'll start sending out PMs with roles and such.

[Qwikshot]

I'm in (trouble).

[jeff061]

I'm all set and looking forward to my first big game.

Here's to a first night lynching.

[Swaggs]

Looking forward to it.

[Peregrine]

I haven't heard from Jon or Fonzie but I think they will be in. Also I have replaced NoMyths with Kwhit by previous agreement. Our alternates for any future replacements are kingfc22, Ragone, and Fouts.

I'm really not trying to screw the new people in this game, I just want to have a solid playtesting group. My next game will be more open to all, perhaps all new people.

I will start to PM out the roles to people tonight and during the day Monday. PM me if you have any questions, I will include in the PM whether you have a Night 0 role or not, if not, just sit tight until Tuesday morning. If you do, try to get it to me by 9 am Tuesday.

[Peregrine]

I've PMed everyone with their role information, let me know if you have questions. We still have a day to go before the game starts but players with Night 0 actions can notify me at any time.

I hope everyone has fun!

[Lathum]

Interesting new twists. Did you get this idea from watching The Smurfs ?

[Peregrine]

Interesting new twists. Did you get this idea from watching The Smurfs ?

I sure hope not! ;)

[BrianD]

Interesting twist with the ghosts. I'm curious to see how that will work. It looks like the ghosts have to stay silent, but they can vote? Does that mean that can't post reasons for votes, or do they have to PM you their votes?

[Peregrine]

The way I will try to handle it is that they can post their vote, but not post about their speculations or why they are voting. I'm not sure if it will work out at all, but I think it will be a force for chaos. Ghosts can vote however they want and some may just be motivated by revenge, and it's not like you can reason with them. It's just an experiment to see if dead players can still have a role in the game without disrupting everything.

[Peregrine]

Final player list barring any more dropouts:

Eaglesfan27
ntndeacon
BrianD
Airhog
TazFTW
Desnudo
Fonzie
Qwikshot
Jeff061
SirFozzie
Barkeep49
KevinNU7
Swaggs
Kwhit
Jon
Tigercat
Lathum

Alternates - kingfc22, Ragone, and Fouts

[Fonzie]

I'm in! I was out of town over the weekend - sorry for the delay.

[Peregrine]

Make sure to get any night 0 actions in by 9 am eastern.

[Peregrine]

The morning dawns foggy and with a bit of a chill, but starts warming quickly, it looks to be an unusually hot spring day, with the occasional rainstorm. The village is quiet today, its normal noises of merchants plying their trade, animal sounds, and people talking are strangely muted. The strange events lately have those few people left in the village worried, and when they talk it is hushed, people congregate at the corner of the church and in the tavern to share the latest speculation. The flooded river has forced some residents to move already, and now worse has apparently come to the village.

The quiet is broken by a frantic scream, then shouts from the edge of town, many people head over there to hear the latest news; bad of course. An older couple who lived quietly in a small house on the edge of town have become the latest victims, torn apart, it is said, by things that can't possibly be human. The murmurs of talk become shouts as the morning wears on, and people start to gather in the town square. The fear in the air is crystallizing into anger, and there will be blood today.

Day 1

Eaglesfan27
ntndeacon
BrianD
Airhog
TazFTW
Desnudo
Fonzie
Qwikshot
Jeff061
SirFozzie
Barkeep49
KevinNU7
Swaggs
Kwhit
Jon
Tigercat
Lathum

Please have your votes in by 8 pm Eastern.

[BrianD]

Wow, quiet morning so far. Anyone want to come right out and say they are a werewolf? Get us started on the right foot? :)

[Lathum]

I've learned my lesson. I will be gone most of the day, please don't speculate :)

[Barkeep49]

Wow, quiet morning so far. Anyone want to come right out and say they are a werewolf? Get us started on the right foot? :)
Well, I am not willing to say that I am anything but a villager of this previously wonderful town. Our town is now beseiged by an evil presence. Let's band together and seek absolution, by killing evil, before God brings down any more wrath upon this village of ours. For now I have no one to accuse, but will be watching closely for this evil presence to reveal him, or her, self.

[Fonzie]

My proposal: have each member of the village place one hand in a black top hat. Those who pull out rabbits are obviously magicians and must be lynched.

Whad'ya say?

[jeff061]

Pure genius.

[NoMyths]

I'm a werewolf.


Just choosing to chow down in a different village, where nobody's paranoid and drunk. Good eatin', yo.

[Swaggs]

Alright Duke, time to out yourself and get the show on the road! :)

[Fonzie]

Would somebody please say something that the rest of us can latch onto and use as an excuse to lynch you? Pretty please?

[Tigercat]

Would somebody please say something that the rest of us can latch onto and use as an excuse to lynch you? Pretty please?

does this count?:

Would somebody please say something that the rest of us can latch onto and use as an excuse to lynch you? Pretty please?

:D

[BrianD]

Would somebody please say something that the rest of us can latch onto and use as an excuse to lynch you? Pretty please?

Aha, you are looking for an "excuse" to lynch someone. If you were really a villager, you'd want a "reason" to lynch someone. Since you are looking for an "excuse", you must be a wolf. :)

[Qwikshot]

I have a meeting today at work...I'll be out most of the day.

[Lathum]

I have a question? If we kill a magician do we know he was a magician?

[Eaglesfan27]

Hmmm, I think it is time to gather some weapons to kill a werewolf tonight.

[Barkeep49]

We don't find out anyone's roles.
Roles are not revealed on death in this game. During the night turn, there are roles that can view one of the people that died the day before and learn his faction or role. There are some roles that may be functionally revealed by changes after a death (note the Ghosts rule below) but there will only rarely be a moderator announcement to reveal any role. At the end of the game all roles are revealed.

[Fonzie]

does this count?:



:D
I was afraid of that. ;)

[Desnudo]

I am here to notify people that I am here.

[Lathum]

OK, I’ll probably get killed for this but here goes.

I’m not sure if taking things from last game is kosher, but it is the only thing I have to go on. The first game I was the first one lynched. I was then a werewolf in the second game, I guess the assumption was made that I would get some sympathy.

So, I am using a version of that logic. NTN’s last second vote in the last game threw so much suspicion on him that it may have ended up costing the villagers the game. Using the logic that NTN may get cut some slack because of that leads me to believe he could be a magician because people may feel kind of bad for him and not want to vote early, since last game he was one of the last innocent victims who was very wrongly accused, people may not want to make the same mistake twice.

[Fonzie]

OK, I’ll probably get killed for this but here goes.

I’m not sure if taking things from last game is kosher, but it is the only thing I have to go on. The first game I was the first one lynched. I was then a werewolf in the second game, I guess the assumption was made that I would get some sympathy.

I'm pretty sure Peregrine randomly assigned the roles. I could be mistaken though.

[KWhit]

It's quiet.

Too quiet.

[SirFozzie]

Well, I am not willing to say that I am anything but a villager of this previously wonderful town. Our town is now beseiged by an evil presence. Let's band together and seek absolution, by killing evil, before God brings down any more wrath upon this village of ours. For now I have no one to accuse, but will be watching closely for this evil presence to reveal him, or her, self.

Sounds like something a werewolf would say.

Seriously, I hate this first round, because you literally have nothing to go on, and either we lose a villager right away, or the wolves are very nearly crippled to start. It has to start sometime though, I just hope we find the werewolves before the werewolves find us.

Since everyone's waiting for the first vote to go down before starting the accusations (and because I can't monitor the thread fully till 6 because of workplace restrictions)..

I VOTE FOR EAGLESFAN27

My reasoning behind this is not per se because I think he's a werewolf, more like I think that if he IS one of them, he could do the most harm to the villagers using psychology to send us down fake trails, much like Mustang did last game.

[Desnudo]

Couldn't the same be said about you? Although since you died first in the other game, maybe not.

[Eaglesfan27]

Sounds like something a werewolf would say.

Seriously, I hate this first round, because you literally have nothing to go on, and either we lose a villager right away, or the wolves are very nearly crippled to start. It has to start sometime though, I just hope we find the werewolves before the werewolves find us.

Since everyone's waiting for the first vote to go down before starting the accusations (and because I can't monitor the thread fully till 6 because of workplace restrictions)..

I VOTE FOR EAGLESFAN27

My reasoning behind this is not per se because I think he's a werewolf, more like I think that if he IS one of them, he could do the most harm to the villagers using psychology to send us down fake trails, much like Mustang did last game.
But if I'm a villager (and I am) couldn't I do the most good for the villagers by using psychology to ferret out the wolves.

[BrianD]

OK, I’ll probably get killed for this but here goes.

I’m not sure if taking things from last game is kosher, but it is the only thing I have to go on. The first game I was the first one lynched. I was then a werewolf in the second game, I guess the assumption was made that I would get some sympathy.

So, I am using a version of that logic. NTN’s last second vote in the last game threw so much suspicion on him that it may have ended up costing the villagers the game. Using the logic that NTN may get cut some slack because of that leads me to believe he could be a magician because people may feel kind of bad for him and not want to vote early, since last game he was one of the last innocent victims who was very wrongly accused, people may not want to make the same mistake twice.

It is possible that roles are assigned in the way that you suggest, but I think eventually people would catch on to it and start expecting it. This would have a good shot to mess up a game early. The only way to really keep this from happening is to assign the roles randomly.

Having said all of that, people voted for me last game instead of ntndeacon, so maybe I *should* go after him this game. :)

[Peregrine]

I'm pretty sure Peregrine randomly assigned the roles. I could be mistaken though.

Yes, I use a random number generator to assign the roles, with no fudging.

[Tigercat]

But if I'm a villager (and I am) couldn't I do the most good for the villagers by using psychology to ferret out the wolves.

Psychology is the work of Satan and his evil minions!(and therefore the Wolves and probably the Magicians) Repent and rejoin the spirit of the decent good folks.

(I have my suspisions about the role of ferrets too, I hate those smelly little suckers. Sure they are cute, till you are in an apartment with a couple of them for hours at a time.)

[Tigercat]

Dola, whoops with my statement on Psychology I might have accidently revealed my role as The Tom Cruise.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola, whoops with my statement on Psychology I might have accidently revealed my role as The Tom Cruise.
:D

[BrianD]

Dola, whoops with my statement on Psychology I might have accidently revealed my role as The Tom Cruise.

If we lynch The Tom Cruise, everybody wins, right?

[Swaggs]

I'm going to have limited access for the rest of the day, but will try to get a vote in before the deadline.

[Swaggs]

c'mon guys...this is a great way to up your post count (and make yourself looks suspicious). :)

[ntndeacon]

Yes, I use a random number generator to assign the roles, with no fudging.
ohh that means the wolves of last game could be wolves again!

[ntndeacon]

Isn't the Tom Cruise like the lunatic. surely lots of fale info will be given by him. And he will ridicule our lack of knowledge on the history of Psychaitry

[KWhit]

Since we don't have much to go on, I will probably end up voting for someone who hasn't posted at all in the thread.

So post something or you're getting voted for.

[Peregrine]

Hmm the usual quiet first day, not much talking, not much voting.

[TazFTW]

Um, I vote Airhog!

Logic would dictate you cannot be the Duke twice (if there is a Duke in this game).

[jeff061]

Should vote Hog only because of what he "accomplished" last game ;).

[TazFTW]

Yes, it is also a revenge vote.

[Eaglesfan27]

Hmmm.. lynch Tom Cruise.. it does have a certain nice ring to it ;)

[Tigercat]

I wish i was really tom cruise, i would take even BB game action with Katie Holmes. :(

[Swaggs]

I'm a werewolf.


Just choosing to chow down in a different village, where nobody's paranoid and drunk. Good eatin', yo.


Well, I'm about to finish up with computer time until after the deadline tonight, so I have to take a stab and I'm going with this one. Either a joke or the best defense is a good offense move. I'm going with the latter. :)

I Vote NoMyths

[Airhog]

I like Taz's confidence.

[Airhog]

Well, He did admit to being a wolf, and he should have learned that from the last game. People will lynch you if you say it.

I vote nomyths

[Peregrine]

Lol Swaggs, since NoMyths isn't playing, won't it be hard to vote for him?

[Eaglesfan27]

Yeah, that is the only reason he said that (and part of why it was so funny.)

Although, I did have to double check that he wasn't playing ;)

[Swaggs]

Whoops.

We might want to change Post #5 b/c people (such as me) might get it confused with the list of active players. :)

[Swaggs]

Oh yeah...

and Unvote NoMyths.

[Peregrine]

Well I got rid of post #3 but I don't own #5. However the best list of active players is the one I post at the start of each day/night turn.

[Fouts]

Man, you guys are good. Hanging people not even in the village. Impressive!

[Airhog]

Maybe it was all a trick by swaggs to get us to vote for someone that isnt even playing! :D

[Swaggs]

Man, you guys are good. Hanging people not even in the village. Impressive!

We are the veterans.

You can only get this good through experience and hard work.

[Swaggs]

Maybe it was all a trick by swaggs to get us to vote for someone that isnt even playing! :D

Watch it werewolf.

I wanted to eat you for like the last five rounds last game, but the other wolves wouldn't allow it.

[Swaggs]

Alright... I guess I will go with Foz's nominee.

I Vote Eaglesfan27

[ntndeacon]

Since Fozzie doesn't even believe EaglesFan is a werewolf, I think I will go another direction. I don't have much of a reason for my vote either to be honest. (of course with my record this is probably a sign that they are not a wolf. ) I want to accuse Lathum for accusing me, but I will go elsewhere this time.

I vote Jeff061

[BrianD]

Well, He did admit to being a wolf, and he should have learned that from the last game. People will lynch you if you say it.

I vote nomyths

Once again Airhog votes for someone that is not a wolf. :)

[BrianD]

Is my count correct?
2 votes Eaglesfan27
1 vote Airhog
1 vote jeff061

[Fouts]

Once again Airhog votes for someone that is not a wolf. :)

I heard the WW's from the last game voted Airhog their MVP. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Honestly, we have little to go on at this point. However, I'm voting for SirFozzie not because I'm seeking revenge, but because he is trying to take out someone who could really help all of us villagers.

I vote SirFozzie.

[Desnudo]

We are in the business of saving lives here, so I vote Airhog. No matter what role he has, good or evil, I think people will die because of him.

[Airhog]

Well, I think we should lynch the smart ones first. :D

I vote Eaglesfan27

[BrianD]

Since he led the bandwagon on so many villagers last game....
I vote Airhog

[Barkeep49]

I have learned in my short life to listen only to the WORD. The only one power has the ability to see into the hearts of others. And yet one of us claims to be able to do so and that this will help us? I think not. I Vote for Eaglesfan

[Barkeep49]

(DOLA -- Wow in the time it took me to type my post, and answer a phone call here at work, it goes from 4 votes to eight votes!)

[Eaglesfan27]

I unvote SirFozzie.

I vote Airhog.

[Airhog]

Hey, I did only truly get two people killed, one who clearly stated they were voting for me only on the basis of revenge. The other is probably doing the same. Sure I made some mistakes, but I didnt see anyone else doing any better.

[Qwikshot]

Vote Airhog

[jeff061]

Vote Airhog

Mr. I screwed my team and get to live another 4 days as a reward ;).

[Airhog]

Now I know how Lathum and shorty felt :P

[Lathum]

It's to early to say if Airhog or Eaglesfan would be a mistake because we may get lucky.

I vote NTN

[BrianD]

One of these times we have to get lucky on our first lynching...

[Airhog]

And once again you not going to get lucky...

[Peregrine]

Barring any last minute vote changes:

Eaglesfan - (4) Sirfozzie, Swaggs, Airhog, Barkeep49
Airhog - (5) TazFTW, Desnudo, Eaglesfan, Qwikshot, Jeff061
NTNdeacon - (1) Lathum
Jeff061 - (1) ntndeacon

[Airhog]

I hope you guys are happy. You dealt a serious blow to the villagers by smiting me down. I tried being chivalrous but to no avail. I can only hope that god takes pity on your souls.

[Eaglesfan27]

I know they wouldn't get lucky if they chose me either. I'm an innocent villager.

[Lathum]

And once again you not going to get lucky...
not unless you listen to me

[Desnudo]

I unvote Airhog. Reason in a sec.

Reason being that I've thought about it and I don't think it makes sense to vote for someone because of actions they took in a previous game. The whole vengeance angle doesn't sit right with me. I don't have any particular inclination to vote for Eagles either.

[SirFozzie]

Interesting. We now have a tie.

[ntndeacon]

wow. at the Buzzer. Watch out Desnudo, that's what killed me last game.

[Airhog]

Thanks desnudo, now you've really put a target on my back

[Desnudo]

I'll vote purely based on participation so far and vote Kevin. At this point, we really don't know anything, so I'm going to vote based on how active people are.

[SirFozzie]

Thanks desnudo, now you've really put a target on my back

Could be that he wanted to skip a day without a lynching, that way we don't lose a villager/Werewolf on day 1, while still getting a day's worth of discussion, something that could help us down the line.

Not sure if that goes in this game..

edit: And isn't it better then being lynched already, be you villager or were?

[KWhit]

I vote Airhog

[Airhog]

Spoken like a true stabber in the back :D Unfortunately your vote is 5 minutes late :P

[KWhit]

And sorry I'm late. I couldn't get an Internet connection earlier. Damn Comcast!

[SirFozzie]

and THAT's interesting too. TWO last minute votes. One to save him.. One to lynch him.

[Desnudo]

Unvote Kevin. I vote Eaglesfan

[Airhog]

Could be that he wanted to skip a day without a lynching, that way we don't lose a villager/Werewolf on day 1, while still getting a day's worth of discussion, something that could help us down the line.

Not sure if that goes in this game..

edit: And isn't it better then being lynched already, be you villager or were?

Not if the wolves eat me tonight...

[Peregrine]

Eaglesfan - (4) Sirfozzie, Swaggs, Airhog, Barkeep49
Airhog - (5) TazFTW, BrianD, Eaglesfan, Qwikshot, Jeff061
NTNdeacon - (1) Lathum
Jeff061 - (1) ntndeacon
KevinNU7 - (1) Desnudo

There is much consternation over the voting today, with suspicion being cast this way and that. In the end though, by a narrow margin Airhog is named. He protests all the way to the corner of the tavern, where he is hanged from the stout porch beams there. The villagers look at each other, some with horror at what they have done, others looking satisfied that justice has been done. Mob justice is still justice, right?

Night 1

Eaglesfan27
ntndeacon
BrianD
Airhog - Lynched Day 1
TazFTW
Desnudo
Fonzie
Qwikshot
Jeff061
SirFozzie
Barkeep49
kingfc22
Swaggs
Kwhit
Fouts
Tigercat
Lathum

Please have your night actions in by midnight tonight.

[KWhit]

Ouch. That's gotta hurt.

[jeff061]

If Airhog turns out to be a wolfie I'm gonna virtually slap Desnudo ;).

[Peregrine]

I didn't see any votes from Fonzie, KevinNU7, Jon, or Tigercat. Better shape up and start voting or posting or let me know to replace you.

[Eaglesfan27]

Hmm. I thought Werewolves would be revealed upon death. However, re-reading the rules, I'm not sure if even a werewolf will be revealed upon death?

[SirFozzie]

The problem now is.. due to the rules of the game, we don't know whether Airhog was a wolf, a villager, or whatever.

Personally I think Airhog was trying to say he was a knight or something, who knows if that's a role in the game. Whether that's the last bluff of a wolf heading to the gallows pole or an actual mistake we made, Well, we'll know in a few weeks, I guess. Time to see what the night brings.

[Peregrine]

No one is revealed on death, that's correct.

[Desnudo]

Using my power of perception, I think the night will bring someone being eaten.

[ntndeacon]

Using my power of perception, I think the night will bring someone being eaten.
Unless the knights are able to protect us!

[Eaglesfan27]

Maybe we'll get lucky and have vegetarian werewolves?

[BrianD]

So we don't know if we did right or not? Yikes.

[Barkeep49]

Perhaps there will be one among us who has been blessed by the one who created all and we will find out whether or not we acted to fufill the will of the one who protects us all.

[Peregrine]

I'm concerned about Kevin and Jon, neither has been on in the last few days, though I know Kevin said he was on vacation. If I don't hear from them by tomorrow afternoon in the thread, I'll try to replace them in time for the voting.

[Lathum]

Far be it from me to comment on this awesome game because I am up for rules change, but it seems to me by not revealing roles takes away some of the parinoia factor. Voting patterns seem like they will mean alot less. That being said there is a good chance I will be eatin tonight.

[jeff061]

Some of the roles(maybe 1?) have a night time ability to unveil dead players.

Though I'm not sure how you break the news.

[Tigercat]

Damn I go out to see a movie for a couple hours and somebody gets quickly lynched.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm not sure that it takes away the paranoia factor, but I do think it makes strategizing even harder and therefore we are all somewhat less talkative.

[Tigercat]

Some of the roles(maybe 1?) have a night time ability to unveil dead players.

Though I'm not sure how you break the news.

Good question, you would wonder if that would be the kinda role that could be safely public for the benefit of all, but if there is more than one and the evil faction(s?) has one and the evil faction knows there isn't just one, an innocent guy doing that would be screwed. Bastard(s) will probably just keep the information to themselves either way.

[Buccaneer]

Perhaps in the interest of the spectators and maybe even the participants, how about a reveal of the dead person one day after the deed (like reveal the role in Night 2 for Day 1)?

[Tigercat]

I'm not sure that it takes away the paranoia factor, but I do think it makes strategizing even harder and therefore we are all somewhat less talkative.

Yea, it adds to the paranoia IMO. But the talking should pick up tomorrow if an action of evil takes place tonight.

[Fonzie]

I didn't see any votes from Fonzie, KevinNU7, Jon, or Tigercat. Better shape up and start voting or posting or let me know to replace you.
Sorry, RL got in the way a bit earlier than anticipated tonight. I'll typically be unavailable from 5:30-9pm, so I'll try to be better about getting my vote in early.

[Desnudo]

I'm not sure that it takes away the paranoia factor, but I do think it makes strategizing even harder and therefore we are all somewhat less talkative.

It's only the first night, but I think I like revealing the role better than not knowing. Not knowing obviously ratchets up the difficulty level a good amount, but it also removes the "what's behind the curtain" anticipation that I really enjoyed in previous iterations.

[Eaglesfan27]

It's only the first night, but I think I like revealing the role better than not knowing. Not knowing obviously ratchets up the difficulty level a good amount, but it also removes the "what's behind the curtain" anticipation that I really enjoyed in previous iterations.

That is my early impression too, but I'm trying to keep an open mind as this plays out and we maybe get a hint at all of the roles.

I do think that this way has more paranoia.

[BrianD]

This does help with the paranoia. It will be interesting to see how the ghost voting helps to reveal things. It is weird to not know who is winning, but hopefully things will become more clear eventually.

[Peregrine]

The whole role revelation thing was something I struggled with. However, I decided to go with a more secretive approach and see how it goes. There is at least one person who can see the roles of the dead, however whether they are willing to reveal them, or reveal them truthfully, is something they will have to decide.

[Peregrine]

The dark night is broken by horrible screams and the sounds of battle from one of the small cottages. The rest of you eventually fall back into a dream-filled sleep. When you wake, the rain is misting down lightly, making it hard to see where you are going, yet people come out of their rooms and make their way around to find out what happened during the night. In a cottage, ntndeacon is lying dead, ripped apart by what appear to be long claws. He fought back, though, as a bloodied sword was found close to his cold hands. The people of River's Edge murmur, upset at this latest killing. Will no one be safe?

Day 2

Eaglesfan27
ntndeacon - killed Night 1
BrianD
Airhog - Lynched Day 1
TazFTW
Desnudo
Fonzie
Qwikshot
Jeff061
SirFozzie
Barkeep49
kingfc22
Swaggs
Kwhit
Fouts
Tigercat
Lathum

Votes in by 8 pm, ghosts can vote today.

[TazFTW]

Just some thoughts before I call it a night (unless I have insomnia).

Looks like ntndeacon was killed by the wolves faction. So I would guess ntn was not a wolf, though he could have been a magi. Lathum voted for him. Is Lathum furry?

Desnudo's frantic vote switching at the end looks very suspicious. He was the 2nd to vote for Airhog, which would indicate they are not in cahoots. Unless that is what they wanted to do (draw suspicion away from them as a team).

[SirFozzie]

Ugh. If there ARE knights, we just lost a 2nd one.

[BrianD]

It looks like we get at least some clue about the people that are killed, even if we don't get a full role revealed. If ntndeacon had a sword, he was probably not someone we wanted the wolves to eat. He must have had some role in protecting us.

[Barkeep49]

I had thought we were a villlage united. But now it appears as though we may have two different groups running around, pretending to be one of us when they truly are not, and there are perhas as many as four. We know there regular villagers, of which I am proud to be a god fearing member of, we know there to be heathen werewolves. We suspect that there also are cultworshiping magicians and heaven sent knights. I wonder, SirFozzie, how it is that you figure that we have lost two of a faction that we know not for sure whether or not it is even in our village? For I am most peturbed about the thought that our only protection might be mostly, or completely, wiped out.

[TazFTW]

It looks like we get at least some clue about the people that are killed, even if we don't get a full role revealed. If ntndeacon had a sword, he was probably not someone we wanted the wolves to eat. He must have had some role in protecting us.
Ah, didn't notice the sword part.

[KWhit]

If the rumors about knights being in the village are true (and I assume they are), Airhog's comment about "trying to be chivalrous" clearly indicates he wanted us to think he was a knight. Whether he really was a knight - who knows.

Ntndeacon had a sword with him when he died. "He fought back" is the phrase used by Pere, so that could mean a knight or a hunter-type role that we've seen in previous games.

I wonder about the teams. I am not a knight - I am just a simple villager this time around - but I wonder what the knights' agenda is. How are they different from the villagers? Do they have their own agenda? Or is it some sort of power(s) that makes them different from us ordinary villagers?

[SirFozzie]

I wonder, SirFozzie, how it is that you figure that we have lost two of a faction that we know not for sure whether or not it is even in our village? For I am most peturbed about the thought that our only protection might be mostly, or completely, wiped out.

I am just attempting to apply commonsense to the situation. Is it not unusual for peaceful villagers to carry swords and be able to wield them well enough against a god forsaken monster to blood their sword before dying?

Either Airhog was trying a massive bluff (which I do admit, if it was, it very nearly succeeded as there was a switched vote nearly tying things up at the end) or he was trying to signal that there may be some other faction at work here in the village, offering us possible salvation against the foul weres. I find myself falling on the side that thinks we did a good man wrong last day.

I find it very suspicious that there was a stampede against Airhog with VERY flimsy evidence, and that after Desnudo had changed his vote to prevent Airhog's lynching, that there was a last second vote TO lynch him. VERY suspicious, indeed

But, my vote from the previous day stands. Eaglesfan27 was quick to perpetuate the stampede against Airhog, in fact he switched his vote from me (which is only to be expected, considering I cast the first stone against him), to Airhog, with nary an explanation in his post.

So again, I VOTE FOR EAGLESFAN27

[Tigercat]

Yea, it seems that Airhog's comment is too obviously placed to ignore. i could see why some would want to ignore it thinking he may have been decietful, but based on his behavior the last two games, I am willing to bet that he may have been some kind of protector or knight of some sort. Can the evil factions see someone like that? I'm not sure, but given Airhogs prominence in the last game I would not be surprised if he would be the not so random pick for some sort of first viewing. I also agree that Eaglesfan's role in it was the most suspcious, so for now at least, I vote Eaglesfan27.

[Eaglesfan27]

I am just attempting to apply commonsense to the situation. Is it not unusual for peaceful villagers to carry swords and be able to wield them well enough against a god forsaken monster to blood their sword before dying?

Either Airhog was trying a massive bluff (which I do admit, if it was, it very nearly succeeded as there was a switched vote nearly tying things up at the end) or he was trying to signal that there may be some other faction at work here in the village, offering us possible salvation against the foul weres. I find myself falling on the side that thinks we did a good man wrong last day.

I find it very suspicious that there was a stampede against Airhog with VERY flimsy evidence, and that after Desnudo had changed his vote to prevent Airhog's lynching, that there was a last second vote TO lynch him. VERY suspicious, indeed

But, my vote from the previous day stands. Eaglesfan27 was quick to perpetuate the stampede against Airhog, in fact he switched his vote from me (which is only to be expected, considering I cast the first stone against him), to Airhog, with nary an explanation in his post.

So again, I VOTE FOR EAGLESFAN27
Simple explanation - I wanted to stay alive. I had no idea who was a wolf and who wasn't, so I voted for the person who was starting to get votes and who I thought was more likely to be lynched than me or you. It turns out I made a smart move from a self-preservation standpoint. I know that as we gain more information, I will be helpful to the villagers. I hope they don't join in your movement to lynch me as it will be a loss to the village.

[Eaglesfan27]

(OOC NOTE: The school got my internet set up today!!! However, as of right now power is still out at home so I'll probably cast a tentative vote when I leave work today in case the power is still out at home.)

[Barkeep49]

Fozzie that is very excellent reasoning indeed. While I am not sure the evidence is much stronger against Eagles, for now that is a very good case indeed and I will once again join you in voting for Eaglesfan.

[Eaglesfan27]

I know that one of you is just misguided. I hope the others are as well. I also hope you all see the light and change your votes.

[Peregrine]

Okay I think it's time to replace Jon and KevinNU7 since they show no signs of coming back. The first two of of our three alternate to PM me get the spots.

[Swaggs]

Sweet. We should let NoMyths in so that I can vote for him again. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Ok, my boss isn't coming into work today (due to TS Cindy which packed a fairly good wallop to us in the New Orleans area,) nor are any of my colleagues. Therefore, I'm about to leave for home and hope that power is back on. However, in case it isn't, I'll submit my vote now and hope that you all make the right decision.

I don't have any good reasoning, but I don't think his reasoning for voting to lynch me is sound either. I could be very helpful to the village if I live, and I can only suspect that he is determined to take down the village. I also know that he has a misguided person following his group. Hopefully, they are all misguided and will realize the errors of their ways.

But for now, I vote SirFozzie.

[NoMyths]

Sweet. We should let NoMyths in so that I can vote for him again. :)Wasn't erroneously eating me the first time around enough? ;)

Sadly, I'm going out of town tomorrow and won't be back until late Sunday, so I had to bow out of this installment. Guess I'll have to settle for the previous win until I get a chance for glory again. :)

[Mustang]

HEY! You guys in River's Edge want to keep it quiet? What, with the lynching and the killing.. werewolf can't even enjoy his manor in a little peace and quiet...

[Desnudo]

It looks like we get at least some clue about the people that are killed, even if we don't get a full role revealed. If ntndeacon had a sword, he was probably not someone we wanted the wolves to eat. He must have had some role in protecting us.

I don't think we can necessarily assume that NTNDeacon was good just because he had a sword. The way I read Peregrine's outline is that there are a number of different groups, all with different aims. So it might be possible to be evil and still have a different agenda than the wolves. It doesn't mean he wasn't good, but I don't think we can assume it one way or the other.

[Lathum]

I don't think we can necessarily assume that NTNDeacon was good just because he had a sword. The way I read Peregrine's outline is that there are a number of different groups, all with different aims. So it might be possible to be evil and still have a different agenda than the wolves. It doesn't mean he wasn't good, but I don't think we can assume it one way or the other.
Bingo. I had my reasons for NTN and I have the same reasons for my next vote. I am traveling today so I may note be back to vote. I vote for Kevin.

[jeff061]

Why would you be in a rush to vote out a smart guy ;). I'll be voting later, but unless someone comes up with a more compelling reason it is more likely to be SirFozzie(or someone else) than Eagle at this point.

[ntndeacon]

woooo, I have come back to haunt my killer. Die you vile werewolf!

[KWhit]

woooo, I have come back to haunt my killer. Die you vile werewolf!
So whom exactly are you haunting?

:)

[ntndeacon]

So whom exactly are you haunting?

:)
I vote for Tigercat

[Fonzie]

woooo, I have come back to haunt my killer. Die you vile werewolf!
I don't understand - have you been resurrected?

[Desnudo]

He's a ghost now

[ntndeacon]

I don't understand - have you been resurrected?
Ghosts can vote.

[ntndeacon]

I just can't comment on any theories and such.

[Tigercat]

A ghost voting for someone from the good side? That makes no sense to me, especially since I can't see Peregrine revealing to the ghosts who killed them when they can vote in this game. Unless NTN is a chaotic voting ghost I think we got lucky, and despite his sword, a badguy was killed.

[Tigercat]

Dola, I just thought of something, perhaps the ghosts behaviors and such are decided for them after they die? If so that would certainly explain that. I must admit though, being an innocent accused as a werewolf by the dead is a bit disturbing, since it is possible in a game where we know nothing that some will take that as a clue, when it is likely the ghost knows as little as we do.

[BrianD]

I don't think we can necessarily assume that NTNDeacon was good just because he had a sword. The way I read Peregrine's outline is that there are a number of different groups, all with different aims. So it might be possible to be evil and still have a different agenda than the wolves. It doesn't mean he wasn't good, but I don't think we can assume it one way or the other.

That is true, I guess we can't speak to his level of goodness. I assumed that having a sword put him in a villager protector role, but I could be wrong about that.

[Lathum]

A ghost voting for someone from the good side? That makes no sense to me, especially since I can't see Peregrine revealing to the ghosts who killed them when they can vote in this game. Unless NTN is a chaotic voting ghost I think we got lucky, and despite his sword, a badguy was killed.
You are %100 correct

[BrianD]

I wonder if ntndeacon was able to recognize someone that ate him and that is why he is voting for Tigercat?

Of course ntndeacon could have been either a good human or a bad human trying to implicate the other side. He said he was voting for a wolf, but do we think we are ok to believe a ghost? I see where the chaos comes from...

[Fonzie]

Count me in the camp that is skeptical of NTN's accusation of Tigercat.

[Desnudo]

I doubt that the ghost knows who ate him. Eventually you'd have a lot of ghosts voting for one or two guys.

[BrianD]

I doubt that the ghost knows who ate him. Eventually you'd have a lot of ghosts voting for one or two guys.

Good point.

[KWhit]

Count me in the camp that is skeptical of NTN's accusation of Tigercat.
Agreed.

I particularly found Tigercat's responses interesting. I don't know why, but they sounded truthful to me.

Besides, I've never met a trustworthy ghost.

[Fonzie]

Agreed.

I particularly found Tigercat's responses interesting. I don't know why, but they sounded truthful to me.

Besides, I've never met a trustworthy ghost.
Not even Caspar?

[ntndeacon]

woooo! I'm Dead! I'm Dead!

[Peregrine]

At this point kingfc22 will replace KevinNU7 and Fouts will replace Jon. I will PM them their role information and update their names on the lists.

[KWhit]

woooo! I'm Dead! I'm Dead!
I found this surprisingly funny.

[ntndeacon]

I am glad I amused you. Wooooo!

[Fouts]

At this point kingfc22 will replace KevinNU7 and Fouts will replace Jon. I will PM them their role information and update their names on the lists.

Hello everyone. I'm really worried about these threats to our village. One can't even make an honest living around here.

[TazFTW]

Count me in the camp that is skeptical of NTN's accusation of Tigercat.
Same here.

I vote Airhog's ghost.

http://www.ecto-web.org/~spookcentral/rgb_episode_guide_084_image02.jpg


I may not be here before the deadline, so I will vote now.

Uh, I vote Swaggs

Just a hunch. That the voting for someone not in the game could be a way to draw off suspicion.

[Fonzie]

Hello everyone. I'm really worried about these threats to our village. One can't even make an honest living around here.
I hear there's plenty of work for the dishonest, however. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Fouts]

After reading through the thread again, SirFozzie and Tigercat's comments make the most sense.

I vote for Eaglesfan27

[Desnudo]

I don't see the evidence of Eaglesfan being a wolf. He seems to be the bandwagon choice simply because SirFozzie threw his name in the ring. I am more suspicious of people who accuse at this point in the game than those who are accused. The accusations are always baseless at this point, so it benefits the wolves to stir things up.

Vote SirFozzie

[Lathum]

OK then

I Vote for King

[KWhit]

I agree with you Desnudo. I'm also usually more suspicious of the people who start the accusations this early on.

VOTE SirFozzie

[KWhit]

Any reasoning behind your vote Lathum?

[Fouts]

I don't see the evidence of Eaglesfan being a wolf. He seems to be the bandwagon choice simply because SirFozzie threw his name in the ring. I am more suspicious of people who accuse at this point in the game than those who are accused. The accusations are always baseless at this point, so it benefits the wolves to stir things up.

Vote SirFozzie

Highly suspicious that you vote with Eaglesfan again. I really like how you changed your vote to Eaglesfan after the deadline to throw us off.

[jeff061]

He was just trying to cause a tie.

Hence the vote change shortly before the deadline.

[BrianD]

OK then

I Vote for King

This seems a little too random, so I'm guessing there is a reason behind it. For now...

I Vote for King

[ntndeacon]

Unvote Tigercat.
Vote Swaggs

[Swaggs]

I suspect that TazFTW is not working in our best interests.

It is early, but there are a few things that point to him. The fact that he publicly questioned Desnudo attempting to tie up the voting to avoid a lynching, which would obviously be to our benefit. And now, he voted for me for a relatively silly reason (no big deal, it's early), but then the ghost, ntndeacon, followed his lead and switched his vote to me after a few other people began to be named by multiple voters (perhaps trying to protect his clan?).

I Vote for TazFTW

[Desnudo]

Highly suspicious that you vote with Eaglesfan again. I really like how you changed your vote to Eaglesfan after the deadline to throw us off.

Yes, I'm that devious, or would it be that obvious? I was writing while Peregrine was posting the results and only changed after KWhit's vote came in. I was trying to cause a tie. However I don't think Eaglesfan is a wolf either and we're wasting time voting on him when the only suspicion is a random accusation.

[Desnudo]

I suspect that TazFTW is not working in our best interests.

It is early, but there are a few things that point to him. The fact that he publicly questioned Desnudo attempting to tie up the voting to avoid a lynching, which would obviously be to our benefit. And now, he voted for me for a relatively silly reason (no big deal, it's early), but then the ghost, ntndeacon, followed his lead and switched his vote to me after a few other people began to be named by multiple voters (perhaps trying to protect his clan?).

I Vote for TazFTW

That vote switch by the ghost deacon does seem a bit odd. Of course he can't explain it since he's dead. I'm staying with Fozzie for now, but I'll need to think about it some.

[SirFozzie]

Desnudo: My voting early was for two reasons. One, I'm at work usually till 6 PM, so I didn't want to be falsely accused due to being quiet and "always voting late. 2ndly, Wanted to see where discussion led us.

[Desnudo]

That's certainly a viable reason, but you understand why I find accusors more suspicious than accusees at this point? My vote isn't set in stone, but I'm certainly looking at people who have been calling others out.

[SirFozzie]

That's certainly a viable reason, but you understand why I find accusors more suspicious than accusees at this point? My vote isn't set in stone, but I'm certainly looking at people who have been calling others out.

If everyone took that path, we'd be reduced to picking stones out of a box, and he who drew the black stone would be stoned to death... a random choice.

SOMEBODY has to start discussions now, so down the line several days, assuming we do not clear our good village of the weres by chance.. we actually have an idea from previous discussions/werewolf attacks, who it could be.

Instead of looking at the accusors as a first target (and I do admit, it might be a good strategy to look at them).. is the folks who either A) Vote for someone for no reason, and/or B) Vote at the last minute.

It's a mistake to lynch me. I am an innocent villager..

[jeff061]

This seems a little too random, so I'm guessing there is a reason behind it. For now...

I Vote for King


I'm leaning towards this. I've seen enough accusations based on the theories being thrown around out there go wrong. I'm willing to go a different route.

While I may change my mind, for now I Vote for King.

[Fonzie]

I'm leaning towards this. I've seen enough accusations based on the theories being thrown around out there go wrong. I'm willing to go a different route.

While I may change my mind, for now I Vote for King.
This is all a bit odd. Two people bandwagoning on an unexplained vote? What's the reasoning here? And if the idea is to go "a different route," why choose this one? I'm not defending king here - I'm genuinely curious as to the rationale.

[kingfc22]

Geez. I just join in and everyone wants me dead.

VOTE SIRFOZZIE


I'll be back around 4:30 PST

[jeff061]

What are the other choices, Eagle cause he's to smart? Fozzie cause he accused him? Desnudo cause he wanted a tie?

Figure it's worth a shot and has just as much a chance of being a wolfie as the names listed above. Maybe Lathum saw something. If I see something more reasonable out there I'll switch.

[SirFozzie]

I honestly do not think Desnudo is a wolf right now. The wolves want us to lynch someone at each day right now. Why? Odds are that we'll get one of our own (like the way we did with Airhog, if he was the "knight" we're speculating he was). The last second vote may not be that either Eaglesfan27 or Airhog was a wolf player, only that they wanted the villagers to lose a member of their #.

[ntndeacon]

Kill the werewolves! wooo!

[Airhog]

I vote Khwit

[Desnudo]

I also have TazFTW on my list for consideration. If you look at the randomness of his accusation of Swaggs and then the very odd quick switch of deacon in support, I'm suspicous.

[Fonzie]

I also have TazFTW on my list for consideration. If you look at the randomness of his accusation of Swaggs and then the very odd quick switch of deacon in support, I'm suspicous.
I agree - and since I have to leave work soon and will likely miss the voting deadline, I'll cast my vote for TazTFW right now. Too bad that I won't get to hear any more input before the final decision, though, as I feel far from confident about this.

[Desnudo]

If everyone took that path, we'd be reduced to picking stones out of a box, and he who drew the black stone would be stoned to death... a random choice.

SOMEBODY has to start discussions now, so down the line several days, assuming we do not clear our good village of the weres by chance.. we actually have an idea from previous discussions/werewolf attacks, who it could be.

Instead of looking at the accusors as a first target (and I do admit, it might be a good strategy to look at them).. is the folks who either A) Vote for someone for no reason, and/or B) Vote at the last minute.

It's a mistake to lynch me. I am an innocent villager..

You have a valid point. And now that the discussion has really gotten going, I think there are some better clues. I'd like to here from someone as to why King is getting picked out.

[BrianD]

This is all a bit odd. Two people bandwagoning on an unexplained vote? What's the reasoning here? And if the idea is to go "a different route," why choose this one? I'm not defending king here - I'm genuinely curious as to the rationale.

There isn't really much to go on at this point, and Lathum seems oddly confident with this pick. I don't think a wolf would want to stand out that much, so I'm thinking something else is going on and he knows something.

[jeff061]

I posted my reasons. No matter who I vote for there doesn't seem to be any good reason behind it. Christ, If I wanted to just string up an innocent I think I'd bandwagon against eagle, taz or fozzie.

I have a easier time believing Lathum saw something than all the arguments for the others being evidence of wolven activity. Admittedly that does not mean I am fully confident about King.

[Lathum]

This seems a little too random, so I'm guessing there is a reason behind it. For now...

I Vote for King
I vote you are right, and yes Kwit, there is a reason

[Barkeep49]

Right now by my tally it is
Eagles 4
Fozzie 4
King 4
Swaggs 2
Taz 2
Kwhit 1

I will be scrutinizing the evidence myself to see if Eagles really deserves my vote, but I have to say that there doesn't seem to be any reasoning for King, which makes it very strange in my book.

[jeff061]

I should mention if King does turn out to be a Wolf there is a decent chance Lathum'lll be targted....

[jeff061]

Does someone want to tell me what the reasoning is for someone else?

[Lathum]

Read back throught the last game. I never make a random vote.

[Lathum]

I should mention if King does turn out to be a Wolf there is a decent chance Lathum'lll be targted....
yo bad we won't know until the end of the game.

I realize I am putting my neck on the line here, but I have my reasons.

[Swaggs]

Here's my reason for voting for Taz:

I suspect that TazFTW is not working in our best interests.

It is early, but there are a few things that point to him. The fact that he publicly questioned Desnudo attempting to tie up the voting to avoid a lynching, which would obviously be to our benefit. And now, he voted for me for a relatively silly reason (no big deal, it's early), but then the ghost, ntndeacon, followed his lead and switched his vote to me after a few other people began to be named by multiple voters (perhaps trying to protect his clan?).

[Tigercat]

The reason I haven't switched my vote from Eaglesfan right now is that regardless of what he is, I sniff a lie in his defense. Playing the odds that one or more of us voting him are villagers, which at least one of us is, and playing the "I am a seer" card. It just seems a little too over the top for me.

[jeff061]

Well I'm sticking with King. Lathum's no noob, if I'm wrong you can lynch me(though I hope you don't) and call me Airhog ;).

[Desnudo]

Lathum does seem oddly confident. It's pretty obvious what the speculation is then. I'll Unvote SirFozzie and Vote King. Of course you better get eaten tonight Lathum, or I won't believe you again. ;)

[Lathum]

Well I'm sticking with King. Lathum's no noob, if I'm wrong you can lynch me(though I hope you don't) and call me Airhog ;).
I will now refer to this post whenever I am lacking self esteem

[Lathum]

Lathum does seem oddly confident. It's pretty obvious what the speculation is then. I'll Unvote SirFozzie and Vote King. Of course you better get eaten tonight Lathum, or I won't believe you again. ;)
This is where King starts his defense.

There is a high probability I will be a late night snack.

And if I am I was eatin by a wolf, not a Tiger.

[jeff061]

Lol, that's right bud. You make sure all your real life acquaintances know, Lathum is no noob when it comes to Werewolf games on FOFC!!!!

[Lathum]

Lol, that's right bud. You make sure all your real life acquaintances know, Lathum is no noob when it comes to Werewolf games on FOFC!!!!
Damn straight !!

to bad since werewolf has started I have no real life acquaintances.

[Tigercat]

Isn't a little early in the game for yall to follow someone blindly? Who knows (but Lathum) what Lathum is. Not to mention the person he is going after hasn't even had a chance to make up a defense. I hope for the sake of the village that Lathum is on the right side.

[Tigercat]

Dola and thats not to say I'm suspicious of Lathum, frankly i am not sure what to think about it either way, which would make me nervous switching my vote. Hopefully we will get another clue with the body at least.

[Lathum]

OK, I get very dissapointed when I refresh my browser every 30 seconds and there are no updates. I am getting on a plane soon. I can't wait to see the outcome of the voting.

[ntndeacon]

Woooo! kill all the bad folks!

[Lathum]

Woooo! kill all the bad folks!
why, do you miss your friends?

[Lathum]

Bah. my flight's delayed.

[Lathum]

OK, so is it me or is it oddly quiet this close to a lynching?

[BrianD]

I think a lot of us are holding our breath waiting to find out what is you know.

[Lathum]

I think a lot of us are holding our breath waiting to find out what is you know.
I know you should listen to me

[Airhog]

I unvote Kwhit
I vote Lathum

[SirFozzie]

I just got home from PT.. and reading and absorbing the information.

[SirFozzie]

Lathum's walking a very thin line here. If he is a seer, he just became the #1 target to become a tasty wolf snack. If he's wrong, he will become the #1 target to dance Danny Deever by the villagers. It takes a very strong nerve to pull off such a ploy.. and he might think it's worth a shot, hopefully a village defender can save him in order to get a wolf.

While I'm not convinced 100%, it's worth enough of a shot to be attempted.

I UNVOTE EAGLESFAN27
I VOTE KING

[Airhog]

boo

[Desnudo]

My guess is that he has some sort of passive viewing power since he pointed out deacon's evilness also.

[Qwikshot]

Vote Eagles

Sorry been very busy at work...

[Desnudo]

Vote Eagles

Sorry been very busy eating workers...

:eek:







Disclaimer: Yadda, yadda, don't take it seriously

[SirFozzie]

My guess is that he has some sort of passive viewing power since he pointed out deacon's evilness also.

but deacon had a sword.... is he saying that's an evil thing?

[Desnudo]

A sword is just a tool. If you look back in the posts, Lathum said something about deacon being evil as 100% correct.

Post #177

[SirFozzie]

Hmmm.. Maybe a brigand role to go with the knights. Still.. it's a bit fishy to me, maybe because it means I'm not as smart as I thought I was ;)