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Peregrine
07-13-2005, 01:19 AM
You are a group of outlaws, who has been living in a forest camp for some months. There are roads near enough to make your thieving profitable, and villages who are glad to sell you food for the gold you can provide. There are usually people moving in and out of the camp all the time, with some being killed or leaving the trade, and new recruits coming in. In the last few days you've become convinced that something...darker has joined your camp.

A few days ago some of the men found an old ruined tower in the woods. Using a crowbar they made their way inside the bottom part, looking for loot, and coming back with several small vials, each made from a different gemstone. The vials are obviously incredibly valuable and there were at least two murders over them before someone hid them away. Since around the time the tower was entered the camp has felt cursed, there have been two deaths, and these are not the knifings you're used to, no these have been sinister deaths, bodies found in their bedrolls drained of fluids, grotesque husks of the men they were. Could it be that something was released from the old tower when the men opened it? The men in the camp are growing restless, and given that all of you are armed and desperate, more bodies are sure to turn up soon.


Roles

Bandits - The villagers of this game, except that each can make one night time kill during the game. You will not be identified as the killer.

Creatures - Evil creatures which have escaped from the ruins of a tower where they have been trapped for many years. Now you seek sustenance and can kill a person each night. Twice during the game you can specify someone to take over instead of making a kill, they become a creature as well and will work with you. You can't do it twice in one night.

Guard - You spend your nights on guard duty for the camp. This gives you a good chance to spot what's going on, and who is killing who at night. You will be notified each night if you have spotted anything.

Doctor - The camp's "doctor" doesn't have any formal medical training but has picked up a lot on how to treat knife wounds in the back. Each night he can protect one person and if they are attacked by bandits he can save their life. Unfortunately the attacks of the Creatures are too deadly for even the doctor to heal, however the doctor's protection will stop the creatures from taking over the person he protects. The doctor can choose to protect himself but can't protect the same person twice in a row.

Ex-Deputy - A few of the Sheriff's deputies have become bandits either through desperation or after committing some crime. They have the chance each night to try to identify the Sheriff's Men that have infiltrated the camp, by choosing to check one person each night.

Sheriff's Man - You have infiltrated the bandit camp to get information on their targets, which you pass to the authorities. Once per game you can use a night action to blackmail one of the bandits to become one of you. However if you choose a creature beware!

Spy - The leaders of the Sheriff's Men, they have magical ability so they can report back to the king. They can use this ability instead to scan for the creatures each night, PM me the name of the person you want to check.

Hostage - An important merchant from the town who is being held for ransom by the bandits. The bandits don't want to kill him since he is valuable to them, so if a bandit attacks him the attack will not go off, and that bandit will be told his identity. However if more than one bandit attacks him on the same night he will be killed in the confusion.

Camp Leader - You are the head honcho of the camp. Most of the time the men listen to you, but this is a position of very high turnover. Once per game, you can change the target of the lynch after the voting, even if the target is yourself. At this point your role is revealed, and worse, the other bandits may decide they don't like your decision and give you a knife in the ribs. Once your power is activated the other bandits must PM the moderator whether or not they want a new boss. If the majority do, the camp leader disappears, and his role is transferred to one of the other bandits! At that point the new bandit would gain the power of Camp Leader.

Rules

Most of the rules are the same as in other games. If there are any questions, ask me.

Timing is the same as before, lynch votes need to be in by 8 pm eastern, and all night actions should be in by midnight eastern. You can PM me your night actions early if you know you won't be available.

Note - there is at least one secret role not on this list that can affect the outcome of the various rules, just keep that in mind! :)

Game ends if the # of creatures is equal to the # of bandits left. If the bandits have enough night attacks left to kill all the creatures, the bandits win. The bandits also win if they kill all the creatures. The Sheriff's men want to survive, if any of them are alive at the end of the game it's considered a victory for them.

If two bandits use their night attacks against the same person, neither goes off as they spook each other. The power is not used in this case.

Night actions go in the order of kills, then views. I will determine the order of kills by creatures first, then bandits. If there is a conflict, I will determine who goes first in a random order!

Ties for a lynch vote result in no lynching.

Since there can be people changing allegiances in this game, it's important to note that those who are changed into creatures or Sheriff's Men will lose any special abilities they had, however they will retain anything they have learned through special abilities, etc.

Players will be replaced by alternates if they miss two consecutive votes or are not posting to a level satisfactory to me. Please let me know if you won't be able to post especially if you are a creature, doctor, spy, etc.

NO private messaging between players unless it is specified in your role information.

Notes

Since most of you will have the ability to kill someone once at night, I expect high death rates in this game! Some may save their ability of course, but if you're dead it won't help you.

I will be doing my best to prevent any PMs from me from being used in game via syntax, etc. Hopefully this won't be as much of a problem as it was the last game.

Note that the bandits hate the Sheriff's Men but the creatures come first! However if both groups are wiped out the bandits will be happy.

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 01:19 AM
Player List

TazFTW
Suicane75
Neon_Chaos
Jeff061
Fouts
Raiders Army
Thomkal
Kwhit
Airhog
KevinNU7
Coffee Warlord
heybrad
henry296
BrianD
JeeberD
Vexroid
Eaglesfan27
SirFozzie
Qwikshot
Schmidty
Masked
digamma
Mr. Wednesday
Swaggs
Mrsimperless
Vince
Kingfc22

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 01:39 AM
This is Night 0. The only people who need to submit actions tonight are the Ex-Deputies and the Spies. There won't be any killings tonight, fortunately. Please have your actions in ASAP, and the day can begin.

TazFTW
07-13-2005, 01:44 AM
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges

kingfc22
07-13-2005, 01:46 AM
I'm a doctor....oh wait, that strategy didn't work last gamehttp://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Fouts
07-13-2005, 01:57 AM
Is that you Friar Tuck?

Vince
07-13-2005, 04:14 AM
Prince John (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507659/): Such an unusual name, "Latrine." How did your family come by it?
Latrine (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001808/): We changed it in the 9th century.
Prince John (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507659/): You mean you changed it TO "Latrine"?
Latrine (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001808/): Yeah. Used to be "Shithouse."
Prince John (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507659/): It's a good change. That's a good change!

Neon_Chaos
07-13-2005, 05:40 AM
Blow. No, I meant... BLOW! :)

BrianD
07-13-2005, 06:44 AM
Just so everyone knows, I'm heading out of town in a few minutes, and probably won't be back for about 8 hours. I'm not trying to be quiet, I just don't have a choice. :)

Schmidty
07-13-2005, 06:46 AM
This thing is shaping up to be a bloodbath. Should be fun!!! :)

Airhog
07-13-2005, 06:49 AM
wow, this one should play fast, especially with all of the bandits slaying people

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 07:00 AM
wow, this one should play fast, especially with all of the bandits slaying people

Yeah that's what you get when you have a bunch of bloodthirsty outlaws instead of the usual placid villagers. A lynching is actually kind of boring day for these guys! :p

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 07:25 AM
Question: What motivation would a bandit have of becoming a sherriff's man? Or is the "blackmail" not a suggestion but really a forced change?

Thomkal
07-13-2005, 07:30 AM
Hmmm I already feel Excedrin Headache #372 coming on after reading the rules. :)

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 07:34 AM
The blackmail is not a suggestion, it's a forced change. It's basically, "We have proof of crime X on you, join us in taking down your bandits or you get to meet the hangman."

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 07:35 AM
Hmmm I already feel Excedrin Headache #372 coming on after reading the rules. :)
:D

KWhit
07-13-2005, 08:12 AM
Will a person's role be revealed upon their death?

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 08:14 AM
Will a person's role be revealed upon their death?

Yes.

Thomkal
07-13-2005, 08:16 AM
Thank God :)

KWhit
07-13-2005, 08:18 AM
Hehe.

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 08:19 AM
Lordy. Lordy. Lordy.

henry296
07-13-2005, 08:23 AM
Let's all take a nice deep breath before we get on with the killing.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 08:25 AM
*takes a deep breath*






Ok, time for some killing ;)

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 08:27 AM
I'm interested to see what everyone does with their one killing per game. I'd imagine most would want to wait until they have a solid creature target, but some will foolishly use them right away.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 08:36 AM
I'm interested to see what everyone does with their one killing per game. I'd imagine most would want to wait until they have a solid creature target, but some will foolishly use them right away.
I agree. It would be wise to wait and save it until one has some evidence to point towards a solid evil creature target.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 08:41 AM
I agree. It would be wise to wait and save it until one has some evidence to point towards a solid evil creature target.
That's evidence right there. He's obviously evil. Kill him.

;)

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 08:42 AM
That's evidence right there. He's obviously evil. Kill him.

;)
Sheesh, if that is what you call evidence, perhaps you are the evil one ;)

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 08:42 AM
That's evidence right there. He's obviously evil. Kill him.

;)

Evidence? That's cop speak there, bucko. Knife him! :)

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 08:44 AM
*sharpens shiv*

KWhit
07-13-2005, 08:44 AM
Hehe.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 08:45 AM
Evil as in a creature, dummies.

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 08:54 AM
Okay Night 0 is over, we're officially into Day 1 here. Lynch votes are due in by 8 pm Eastern. Doesn't everyone love that first day where someone is almost guaranteed to get screwed over?

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 08:57 AM
Okay Night 0 is over, we're officially into Day 1 here. Lynch votes are due in by 8 pm Eastern. Doesn't everyone love that first day where someone is almost guaranteed to get screwed over?
People often get screwed over on the 2nd day too.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 09:00 AM
And 3rd. And 4th. And...

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 09:05 AM
Man this game really has me in the dark. I think there is very few creatures in the game, maybe one or two. But by tomorrow their numbers will probably double and then double again the next night. It is crucial that we get some of them ASAP.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 09:12 AM
I'm not sure about that. When I read it, I took it to mean that 2x per game the creatures as a whole could take over someone. So if there are two of them right now, the most there would ever be would be 4.

At least I hope that's what it means.

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 09:23 AM
Good point! Guess I read that totally wrong

KWhit
07-13-2005, 09:26 AM
I could be totally wrong, but I assumed that they acted like the wolves do - they kill (or in this case convert) as a group.

Wolfpack
07-13-2005, 09:30 AM
Speaking as an observer, I find it a little illogical that the bandits wouldn't be able to recognize the hostage they purportedly have taken, considering they had to go to the effort of getting him in the first place.

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 09:32 AM
You could make the same claim about the Camp Leader

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 09:39 AM
I could be totally wrong, but I assumed that they acted like the wolves do - they kill (or in this case convert) as a group.

If this is indeed the case, then I'd venture to guess there are prolly around 4-5 creatures, given the number of players in this one.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 09:42 AM
If this is indeed the case, then I'd venture to guess there are prolly around 4-5 creatures, given the number of players in this one.
Could be. I keep forgetting how many players we have this time around.

JeeberD
07-13-2005, 09:47 AM
Awesome, this should be tons of fun...

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 09:56 AM
Speaking as an observer, I find it a little illogical that the bandits wouldn't be able to recognize the hostage they purportedly have taken, considering they had to go to the effort of getting him in the first place.

This is one of those logical leaps you have to make in any game of werewolf. Of course bandits would know who their leader and hostage were, villagers would know their doctor and priest, etc. But to make the game work you have to ignore that.

Masked
07-13-2005, 09:59 AM
I think I will re-read the rules after I have some coffee. :)

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 10:01 AM
Yes, the creatures work as a team, like werewolves, and they can choose someone to convert as a group, twice per game.

digamma
07-13-2005, 10:03 AM
Just checking in.

Carry on.

mrsimperless
07-13-2005, 10:28 AM
If we wait until a creature is identified or suspicious then the odds are that multiple bandits are going to try to kinfe him during the night and he won't be killed at all! That is if I'm understanding the rules correctly. We may be forced to coordinate our night killings a bit.

mrsimperless
07-13-2005, 10:30 AM
Dola. I also didn't see a role similar to Seer from previous games. It could end up being difficult for us to figure out who these creatures are...

JeeberD
07-13-2005, 10:33 AM
The spy can, mrsimperless. But he works for the Sherrif, so the Bandits are on their own, it looks like...

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 10:36 AM
Yes, the creatures work as a team, like werewolves, and they can choose someone to convert as a group, twice per game.
This is good news. I was afraid each of them as individuals could convert twice a game, thereby quadrupling their numbers.

heybrad
07-13-2005, 10:40 AM
Hello!

mrsimperless
07-13-2005, 10:40 AM
The spy can, mrsimperless. But he works for the Sherrif, so the Bandits are on their own, it looks like...

Yeah, it looks like we are on OUR own. Thanks for letting us know you're not one of us.

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 10:42 AM
Hello!

Oh I just can't pass THIS up.

HEY BRAD!

JeeberD
07-13-2005, 10:43 AM
Yeah, it looks like we are on OUR own. Thanks for letting us know you're not one of us.

:D

Don't make me stab you in the back the first night, dude... ;)

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 11:06 AM
Trust no one, that's my motto.

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 11:07 AM
Vote JeeberD

KWhit
07-13-2005, 11:07 AM
Trust no one, that's my motto.
You will go far with that attitude.

Or maybe you won't.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 11:08 AM
Vote JeeberD
Care to share your reasoning?

henry296
07-13-2005, 11:09 AM
With nothing else to go own, JeeberD is my leading candidate to based on the their vs. our distinction. I knew it's minor but right now that is the only incrimininating thing anyone has said.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 11:10 AM
With nothing else to go own, JeeberD is my leading candidate to based on the their vs. our distinction. I knew it's minor but right now that is the only incrimininating thing anyone has said.
Not that we can go by past games, but that slip-up has helped us lynch a wolf in the past.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 11:11 AM
The spy can, mrsimperless. But he works for the Sherrif, so the Bandits are on their own, it looks like...
Here's the quote, FYI.

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 11:11 AM
Care to share your reasoning?The slip in the text. It gives me something to go on, and if I pile on early, it's less likely that I get nailed for waiting. Of course, if I pile on the wrong guy early, then maybe I get identified as suspicious for that reason, but there you are. As bandits, we're all suspicious sorts anyway. :)

KWhit
07-13-2005, 11:14 AM
The slip in the text. It gives me something to go on, and if I pile on early, it's less likely that I get nailed for waiting. Of course, if I pile on the wrong guy early, then maybe I get identified as suspicious for that reason, but there you are. As bandits, we're all suspicious sorts anyway. :)
You're right. It's better than nothing.

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 11:17 AM
Vote Mr. Wednesday

I've going back and forth between voting and abstaining, since the odds of us catching a creature are pretty low on day 1.

Regardless, sorry Mr. Wed. Little quick on the trigger on Jeeber there, for what I'm banking is merely a bad choice in pronouns.

Vince
07-13-2005, 11:23 AM
The idea of abstention is an attractive one -- this early in the game we're much more likely to lynch a non-creature. The only problem is, we learn next to nothing from a non-lynching, while the creatures have many options on killing, or now even creating another creature. With this many people in the game, they probably have what...25 targets? At least?

I don't like it, but I think we have to lynch someone today.

mrsimperless
07-13-2005, 11:25 AM
Agreed. We HAVE to lynch someone. Voting patterns are one of the best clues in the game as the days progress.

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 11:25 AM
Agreed. We HAVE to lynch someone. Voting patterns are one of the best clues in the game as the days progress.

Bloodthirsty bastard. :)

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 11:26 AM
The Sherrifs/Spys are interesting roles. Would any of them truely be motivated to convert bandits to to their own when they know they will probably need the bandits attacking skills to take out creatures?

Schmidty
07-13-2005, 11:29 AM
Lynching on the first day just feels so random. But maybe we'll get lucky and get a creature right of the bat (like Werewolf V).

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 11:29 AM
IMO abstaining is bad for us bandits. I mean all we can go by right now it voting patterns and what people say. Giving the spys and creatures an extra turn tonight would be bad IMO.

Vince
07-13-2005, 11:30 AM
Ok, well I'm out for a few hours to do some out-of-the-house work...I should be back by about 3:30/4:00 PST (yes, I'm a west coast folken). In an effort to make the most informed vote possible (that rings so hollow on day one), I'm going to wait until then to decide.

digamma
07-13-2005, 11:37 AM
I don't think abstaining gets us anwhere either.

I think we need to take a shot at finding a creature. We may get lucky, but if we don't we'll have some record for going forward.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 11:47 AM
I don't think abstaining gets us anwhere either.

I think we need to take a shot at finding a creature. We may get lucky, but if we don't we'll have some record for going forward.
I absolutely agree.

henry296
07-13-2005, 11:49 AM
If we abstain, it puts us in the same position tomorrow with very little information to make a decision.

Raiders Army
07-13-2005, 11:50 AM
KWhit's reasoning looks sound enough for Day 1.

Vote JeeberD

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 11:52 AM
If we abstain, it puts us in the same position tomorrow with very little information to make a decision.Although with fewer choices, so our chances of getting it right would be better. :p

Swaggs
07-13-2005, 12:18 PM
I'm here.

vex
07-13-2005, 12:27 PM
Reporting for Duty!(Too much Battlefield 2) :D

I concur with the masses, we need to lynch someone tonight, maybe we'll get lucky.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 12:32 PM
KWhit's reasoning looks sound enough for Day 1.

Vote JeeberD
Just so we're clear, this is not my reasoning. Mrsimperless was the one who first made an issue of Jeeber's wording and Mr Wednesday was first to vote against him because of it. I just mentioned that it was better than nothing. I haven't even decided if I want to vote against him due to this slip or not yet.

I want to make sure this is clear because if Jeeber is not a creature, I don't want this vote used against me later because people think I'm leading the charge against Jeebs.

Right now, Jeeber is my prime suspect (only because we have so little to go on), but I'm still deciding how to vote.

Raiders Army
07-13-2005, 12:38 PM
Very true. I agree that the initial posts must have careful wording...otherwise, you are a big target for the lynch mob.

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 01:06 PM
One thing to note is that the factions in this game are not as cut and dried as my last one, in other words the Sheriff's men and bandits don't like each other but that Spy information could be critical, so I imagine they may well try to share it. On the other hand they could be killed for it by the bandits at the end of the game once most of the creatures are gone.

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 01:53 PM
Alot of non-posters so far. Please chime in peeps. I'm not ready to turn of Jeeber just yet. So far in the versions of the game I have found that grammatical errors tend to lead to a villagers more then a wolfy

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 01:59 PM
I'm looking at a couple of gramatical things because, quite frankly, it's all we have to go on. Although Jeeber has been kinda quiet since he was brought up for lynching. But there are other things that have caught my eye.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 01:59 PM
Alot of non-posters so far. Please chime in peeps. I'm not ready to turn of Jeeber just yet. So far in the versions of the game I have found that grammatical errors tend to lead to a villagers more then a wolfy
That "then" should be a "than!" He must be a Wolf! Hang him! :eek: ;)

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 02:04 PM
In all seriousness, lynching on the first day has a high degree of randomness, and to this point the grammatical mistake of Jeeber which is really a more telling mistake than most random mistakes has him up there on my list.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 02:07 PM
Alot of non-posters so far. Please chime in peeps. I'm not ready to turn of Jeeber just yet. So far in the versions of the game I have found that grammatical errors tend to lead to a villagers more then a wolfy
Quite a few grammatical errors in that post. Odd that you were commenting on the fact that grammar errors tend to point toward villagers. Coincidence?

Hmmmmm.....

Could it be that you're a... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/KWhit/werewolf.gif






;)

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 02:17 PM
That is hilarious, particularly the dancing wolfy.

jeff061
07-13-2005, 02:19 PM
It gives me something to go on, and if I pile on early, it's less likely that I get nailed for waiting.

Unless you get nailed for piling on earlier, which seems to happen more often than it should.

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 02:24 PM
Well, yeah. CW's already going after me for that. And who knows what happens if I'm wrong? (Assuming, of course, that we do go through with lynching Jeeber...)

KWhit
07-13-2005, 02:28 PM
I don't know about the etiquette of doing this, but I usually lean toward voting for a non-poster on the first day unless there is a real reason to go after somebody else.

Whether or not Jeeber's quote is a "real reason" is what I'm trying to decide for myself right now.

Fouts
07-13-2005, 02:34 PM
I have to leave for class in an hour. Hate to do it, but have to vote early and hope I'm right. Doing that got me lynched in WWV (inadvertently supporting a wolf), so I hope I get it right this time.

mrsimperless
07-13-2005, 02:34 PM
I don't think it's a "real reason". But it's as much of a reason as not posting IMO. The first day vote is completely random, so it's as much to go off of as anything else. Sorry Jeebs... I love you, but I just can't smile.

Vote JeeberD

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 02:41 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/KWhit/werewolf.gif
That's awesome!

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 02:43 PM
IMO abstaining is bad for us bandits. That struck me as odd when I first read it. Im just pointing it out.

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 02:46 PM
That seems like normal enough usage to me.

:confused:

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 02:47 PM
Dola, normal enough in terms of Kevin claiming to be a bandit.

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 02:47 PM
I dunno, the need to add the word Bandits to it kinda made it stand out to me.

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 02:48 PM
Filed away for future reference. Much more nuanced than Jeeber's slip, though.

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 02:49 PM
Ok, the boss has left and I am out for the day. Might be back online later but I'm not sure. For now I am going to vote for a non-poster and see where that goes.

Going through the thread posts list I only found one player who hasn't checked in yet.

I vote for Qwikshot

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 02:50 PM
Dola,

I'm a bandit, apparently I can't refer to myself :)

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 02:51 PM
As I said, it's a very nuanced complaint, and so not the sort of thing that's going to get you in trouble very quickly with me. :)

jeff061
07-13-2005, 02:52 PM
A real bandit would of said:

IMO abstaining is bad for us bad asses.

Schmidty
07-13-2005, 02:52 PM
I dunno, the need to add the word Bandits to it kinda made it stand out to me.

Your usage of "me" in conjunction with "Bandits" and "stand out" seems EXTREMELY fishy. ;)

BrianD
07-13-2005, 02:54 PM
Since the bandwagon for early grammar errors never seems to work, I'm going to jump on the first person that tries to use that as a reason. For now...

I vote mrsimperless

mrsimperless
07-13-2005, 02:56 PM
I was the second person actually, but ok. Like I said it's random, so I guess voting for me is as good as voting for anyone else. Except that I'm a bandit and it would be a wasted lynch. :)

Thomkal
07-13-2005, 03:05 PM
I was the second person actually, but ok. Like I said it's random, so I guess voting for me is as good as voting for anyone else. Except that I'm a bandit and it would be a wasted lynch. :)
Actually you WERE the first to use Jeeber's potential grammar error as the reason to suspect him. You weren't even the second person to vote for him either if I have read the thread correctly. You were third behind Wednesday and Raiders Army. Two wrongs make a lynching in my book. I'll likely switch my vote if I've read the thread incorrectly.

VOTE MRSIMPERLESS.

BrianD
07-13-2005, 03:09 PM
mrsimperless was the first to go with a grammar error, but other postings seemed rather bandit-like. Maybe I should vote for the first person to pile on....

Unvote mrsimperless
Vote Mr. Wednesday

Fouts
07-13-2005, 03:13 PM
This isn't getting any easier.

Vince
07-13-2005, 03:14 PM
My head is spinning (and it's not because of the 102 degree heat) -- I guess that's what grasping at straws does for you.

I'm still not sold on the Jeeber is a wolf theory. I guess it's all we have to go on, but that's pretty flimsy...and now the accusations are flying. I think I'll hold off on my vote on the (futile?) hopes that we get something more concrete

Thomkal
07-13-2005, 03:17 PM
Geez Brian you give me a reason to vote for someone then you go and change your vote after I make that vote. Thanks a lot. :)

Fouts
07-13-2005, 03:18 PM
Ok, if you were really a bandit, you would know the secret word.

BrianD
07-13-2005, 03:19 PM
Geez Brian you give me a reason to vote for someone then you go and change your vote after I make that vote. Thanks a lot. :)

Sorry. I went back and read the thread again and found that I didn't like my reasoning. :)

Masked
07-13-2005, 03:20 PM
I am also taking the wait and see approach. At this point, arguments for anybody being a foe can be made.

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 03:21 PM
Vote count so far:

JeeberD - Mr. Wednesday, Raiders Army, mrsimperless
Mr. Wednesday - Coffee Warlord, BrianD
Qwikshot - KevinNU7
mrsimperless - Thomkal

I will be out until about 9:15 or 9:30 tonight so I will post the results of the lynching when I get back, if you need to send your night actions early you can do so.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 03:22 PM
My head is spinning (and it's not because of the 102 degree heat) -- I guess that's what grasping at straws does for you.

I'm still not sold on the Jeeber is a wolf theory. I guess it's all we have to go on, but that's pretty flimsy...and now the accusations are flying. I think I'll hold off on my vote on the (futile?) hopes that we get something more concrete
You better be careful. I'm thinking about voting for you just because you got the top pick in the GEFL.

:p

SirFozzie
07-13-2005, 03:24 PM
Ugh. I hate day 1. Hate Hate Hate Hate. BUt I gotta vote. And I can't resist voting for Jeebies.. :D

I VOTE JEEBERD

Vince
07-13-2005, 03:27 PM
You better be careful. I'm thinking about voting for you just because you got the top pick in the GEFL.

:p
Hahaha. Should we step over to the Billy Ocean Forum to discuss it? ;)

KWhit
07-13-2005, 03:56 PM
Hahaha. Should we step over to the Billy Ocean Forum to discuss it? ;)
Hehe.

Vince
07-13-2005, 03:57 PM
I can already feel the electronic crack seeping through my veins. Twenty minutes went by without a post, and I didn't know what to do.

TazFTW
07-13-2005, 03:57 PM
Not sure if I'll be able to get online by the time the voting ends, so


I vote Mr. Wednesday

First person to accuse.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 04:00 PM
I tend to think that the creatures would be the ones that would be either:

1) Laying low and not posting much
or
2) Trying to "frame" someone

I may not be able to get back online before voting time, so I better make a decision.

I Vote for Mr. Wednesday.

Qwikshot
07-13-2005, 04:01 PM
Vote Jeeber

I can see that this will be a long battle, discussion frayed with smiles and daggers, in the night, we will hear the sound of screams, violence, and the unlucky ones will face hellhounds of fur and teeth and claw, smelling of musk and blood. At dawn, we will face each with brittle accusations and stifled theories...but there is always one who must take the first blow, one who will start the cycle, until we find the wolves.

I'll go with Jeeber first.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 04:02 PM
I can already feel the electronic crack seeping through my veins. Twenty minutes went by without a post, and I didn't know what to do.
Yeah. I've added about 250 posts just on werewolf games in the past few weeks.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 04:03 PM
I can see that this will be a long battle, discussion frayed with smiles and daggers, in the night, we will hear the sound of screams, violence, and the unlucky ones will face hellhounds of fur and teeth and claw, smelling of musk and blood. At dawn, we will face each with brittle accusations and stifled theories...but there is always one who must take the first blow, one who will start the cycle, until we find the wolves.
That sounds like it might include a code of some sort to me.

Qwikshot
07-13-2005, 04:04 PM
That sounds like it might include a code of some sort to me.

If the rooster crows at midnight, is it a code?

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 04:06 PM
Thats an awfully odd ramble to make. Im piqued.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 04:09 PM
Thats an awfully odd ramble to make. Im piqued.
I agree, and my curiousity is also piqued.

mrsimperless
07-13-2005, 04:11 PM
Vote Jeeber

I can see that this will be a long battle, discussion frayed with smiles and daggers, in the night, we will hear the sound of screams, violence, and the unlucky ones will face hellhounds of fur and teeth and claw, smelling of musk and blood. At dawn, we will face each with brittle accusations and stifled theories...but there is always one who must take the first blow, one who will start the cycle, until we find the wolves.

I'll go with Jeeber first.

I'm thinking that qwik is a role other than a creature. Otherwise he would know that there are creatures in this game and not wolves. Unless of course that's what he WANTS us to think...

KWhit
07-13-2005, 04:12 PM
Well, Quikshot, you have my attention. Of course that could quickly turn to suspicion.

Unvote Mr. Wednesday

Vote JeeberD

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 04:13 PM
Is there any character in the game who gains from being lynched? Dont flame me, im reading the assignments and stuff, im just wondering why someone would make himself stand out so much as qwik just did.

Fouts
07-13-2005, 04:15 PM
I think I figured out the message.

Vote Jeeber

I can see that this will be A long battle, discussion frayed with sMiles and daggers, in the nighT, we will Hear thE sound of sCreams, violence, and the unlucky ones will face hellhounds of fuR and tEeth and clAw, smelling of musk and blood. AT dawn, we will face each with brittle accUsations and stifled theoRies...but therE is always one who must take the first blow, one who will start the cycle, until we find the wolves.

I'll go with Jeeber first.

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 04:15 PM
Uh. Call me the simple minded one, but it sounded like he was just being poetic.

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 04:18 PM
Uh. Call me the simple minded one, but it sounded like he was just being poetic.
Thats well and good for a simple thread, but this is clearly a game where what you say or do, especially on the first few days will draw attention to you. Why he would go out of his way to do that intrigues me.

Qwikshot
07-13-2005, 04:19 PM
Uh. Call me the simple minded one, but it sounded like he was just being poetic.

We have a winner.

And really, are there any innocents here? Liars, and cheats, murderers, and thieves, are we not surprised to be invaded by the damned?

I will keep my dagger sharp and my heart strong, to face the wicked, and not lie in the silence of suspicion.

jeff061
07-13-2005, 04:20 PM
Vote Jeeber

Only because if we keep lynching the first person to accuse these games will never get started.

heybrad
07-13-2005, 04:22 PM
I dont know what to do on Day 1. I've read through and here goes.

I vote Mr. Wednesday

Swaggs
07-13-2005, 04:26 PM
I think I figured out the message.

That is cash money.

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 04:28 PM
I VOTE Mr. Wednesday

Qwikshot
07-13-2005, 04:32 PM
Thats well and good for a simple thread, but this is clearly a game where what you say or do, especially on the first few days will draw attention to you. Why he would go out of his way to do that intrigues me.

A dog covered in feathers is still a dog.

I have nothing to hide.

Fouts
07-13-2005, 04:33 PM
A dog covered in feathers is still a dog.

I have nothing to hide.

Quirky!

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 04:35 PM
A dog covered in feathers is still a dog.

I have nothing to hide.

But what of the dog covered in feathers that crows at midnight?

digamma
07-13-2005, 04:38 PM
Vote JeeberD.

His grammatical slip appears to be somewhat meaningful to me--and honestly, we don't have much to go on.

Qwikshot
07-13-2005, 04:42 PM
But what of the dog covered in feathers that crows at midnight?

That is a mystery even I cannot fathom to resolve.

You all keep mouths closed, prodding my words with sticks of confusion, while evil is among us, infesting us, like black plague rats.

It is the silent ones that are dangerous, it is the loud ones who are suspicious.

All this judging, by thieves.

Fouts
07-13-2005, 04:42 PM
It looks like we have 2 candidates;

JeeberD - Made a mistake with their/us. Common mistake but it has gotten people hanged. His reply post about stabbing mrsimperless was pretty fast (3 mins). Never accused anyone.

MrWednesday - First to accuse, gave no reason until asked. Really wants to lynch someone.

I vote MrWednesday

Disclaimer: This post is not intended to support JeeberD. It is for informational purposes only. Please don't lynch me if JeeberD turns out to be a creature.

Swaggs
07-13-2005, 04:45 PM
I Vote JeeberD

Whether it was a slip up or not, it is the only clue we have so far.

Schmidty
07-13-2005, 04:46 PM
I guess I'll:

Vote Mr. Wednesday

Qwikshot
07-13-2005, 04:50 PM
I Vote JeeberD

Whether it was a slip up or not, it is the only clue we have so far.

It is the little things that kill.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 04:51 PM
This is a tough decision. I doubt anyone is going to make any further mistakes to sway my vote, but it's possible. Going on the only clue that I have at this point:

I vote JeeberD

Fouts
07-13-2005, 04:56 PM
I think each candidate should post something meaningful that would save their necks.


Yeah right, we're all a bunch of lying thiefs and we'd never believe you.

<snicker>

Swaggs
07-13-2005, 05:00 PM
It is the little things that kill.

Or maybe it is the things that kill are little?

Masked
07-13-2005, 05:17 PM
I may not make it back before 8PM. Going with the masses.

Vote: JeeberD

Vince
07-13-2005, 05:24 PM
I think I've figured out why I don't want to vote for Jeebs. I would be PISSED if a stupid grammatical error got me lynched on day one unjustly. Combine that with my nagging feeling that he's not a bad guy...

I vote Mr. Wednesday

JeeberD
07-13-2005, 05:40 PM
Godd grief, you people and your jumping all over gramatical errors. I used the phrase I did not because I'm not a villager/bandit, but because the game really hadn't started yet and it didn't feel like any of our roles were really defined at that point. I was just pointing out to mrsimperless that there WAS someone who could see the creatures.

Sigh...for reason of self-preservation, I Vote Mr Wednesday. I don't know that he's a creature, but I know for a fact that I'm a bandit and don't deserve to die.

henry296
07-13-2005, 06:03 PM
vote Mr. Wednesday

While JeeberD did make the grammar mistake, Mr. Wednesday did not make a comment on it or any other reason until asked. That seems to eager to lynch someone.

korme
07-13-2005, 06:05 PM
I am an evil creature

Vince
07-13-2005, 06:07 PM
Getting down to the wire...I think I have it at 11-10, Jeeber 'winning' currently.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 06:08 PM
I am an evil creature
Darn it. You made me actually double check the list to see if you were playing ;)

korme
07-13-2005, 06:09 PM
Darn it. You made me actually double check the list to see if you were playing ;)
hehehehee http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

fwiw, i do like the different premise of this game as opposed to all of the others.

Neon_Chaos
07-13-2005, 06:11 PM
Bandwagon time.

Vote Mr. Wednesday

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 06:55 PM
looks like I should change my vote from Qwik to one of the two up on the block, but in all honesty I don't think either is a creature so I will leave my vote to the one who didn't post all day and then when he finally did come in and post he had a incredbily odd post

kingfc22
07-13-2005, 07:00 PM
Just got home. Gonna have to go with Mr. Wednesday. Wish the deadline could be extended to 6 PM...


Vote Mr. Wednesday

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 07:06 PM
tick tock tick tock. Anyone count up all the votes yet?

Vince
07-13-2005, 07:15 PM
I think King's vote clears Jeeber -- I lost track a while ago, but I think he makes it 12 - 11 with Mr. Wednesday taking the lead.

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 07:23 PM
Jeeber (MR.W,Raiders Army,mrsimperless,SirFozzie, Qwikshot, kWhit, Jeff061, digamma, Swaggs, Eaglesfan27, Masked)

Mr.W (Coffee Warlord, BrainD,TazFTW,heybrad,Suicane75,Fouts,Schmidty, Vince, JeeberD, henry296, Neon_Chaos, kingfc22)

Qwikshot (KevinNU7)

mrsimperless (Thomkal)

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 07:24 PM
TazFTW- Mr. Wednesday
Suicane75- Mr. Wednesday
Neon_Chaos- Mr. Wednesday
Jeff061- Jeeber
Fouts- Mr. Wednesday
Raiders Army- Jeeber
Thomkal- Mrsimperless
Kwhit- Jeeber
Airhog-
KevinNU7- Qwikshot
Coffee Warlord- Mr. Wednesday
heybrad- Mr. Wednesday
henry296- Mr. Wednesday
BrianD- Mr. Wednesday
JeeberD- Mr. Wednesday
Vexroid-
Eaglesfan27- Jeeber
SirFozzie- Jeeber
Qwikshot- Jeeber
Schmidty- Mr. Wednesday
Masked- Jeeber
digamma- Jeeber
Mr. Wednesday- Jeeber
Swaggs- Jeeber
Mrsimperless- JeeberD
Vince- Mr. Wednesday
Kingfc22- Mr. Wednesday

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 07:25 PM
looks like it's 12-11-1-1 with 2 no votes (Airhog, vexroid)

JeeberD
07-13-2005, 07:27 PM
vexy better not vote for me after I wished him a happy birthday earlier... ;)

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 07:39 PM
Note to self... next time, don't kick off the voting early on.

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 07:44 PM
Eh. It was gonna be someone, for some smidge of a reason.

Schmidty
07-13-2005, 07:45 PM
Eh. It was gonna be someone, for some smidge of a reason.

I'm sure that makes him feel better.

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 07:46 PM
I was sick the day they taught consoling people. :)

jeff061
07-13-2005, 07:47 PM
So now next time no one makes an accusation and the game never starts. I didn't want to see Jeebs lynched but this was my reasoning.

Nice job.

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 07:48 PM
So for reasons today, we have Thomkal and Kevin doing their own thing, me leading a bandwagon after Jeeber for grammatical reasons, and CW leading a bandwagon after me for voting first reasons. I don't think sacrificing me will help the rest of the bandits learn anything, under the circumstances, but you never know.

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 07:50 PM
So now next time no one makes an accusation and the game never starts. I didn't want to see Jeebs lynched but this was my reasoning.

Nice job.Well, I did make the observation that the odds of being successful on day 2 are better than on day 1. :p

Airhog
07-13-2005, 07:50 PM
I vote Mrwednesday

Sorry If Im late :D

KevinNU7
07-13-2005, 07:58 PM
Where's out moderator???

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 07:59 PM
Where's out moderator???
He said he was going to be late tonight.

Edit: Therefore, there is still time for a last minute change of heart if anyone is so inclined.

Vince
07-13-2005, 08:01 PM
He said he wouldn't be here until at least now, so I'd give him a few minutes :)

Fouts
07-13-2005, 08:04 PM
So for reasons today, we have Thomkal and Kevin doing their own thing, me leading a bandwagon after Jeeber for grammatical reasons, and CW leading a bandwagon after me for voting first reasons. I don't think sacrificing me will help the rest of the bandits learn anything, under the circumstances, but you never know.

At this point, it's either you are Jeeber. Tough call, hoping I made the right choice.

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 08:09 PM
We won't know for a while. That is, I can say for dead certain that killing me doesn't do anything for the bandits as such, since I am one, but we won't ID Jeeber until later under the circumstances, and we won't know for a while whether any useful information is gained from me dying.

I think, though, that I'm going to be spiteful (though not truly evil) and root for my death to be avenged. Go lawmen!

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 08:12 PM
Er, assuming, as I do, that regardless of which side you're on, if you're dead you lose. :p

Vince
07-13-2005, 08:15 PM
Mr. W's got a point. If we lynch him, and he turns out not to be a bad guy, do we turn around and lynch Jeebs tomorrow? Or do we start over from scratch?

Mr. Wednesday
07-13-2005, 08:22 PM
I wouldn't suggest lynching Jeebs just because he was the alternative to me. If you're going to lynch him tomorrow, lynch him for the same reason you would lynch him now -- assuming he survives the night.

I don't think you'd be starting exactly from scratch, that aside, but excepting CW who was the first one to vote for me (and I'll his reason is only marginally worse than mine for voting for Jeebs) I don't see a whole lot to go on.

Suicane75
07-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Are you trying to get some vote switches? http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 08:42 PM
Okay, I'm back. One bit of news is that I will need an alternate for Vexroid, so if you're reading the thread, send me a PM and you're in.

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 08:45 PM
This is a busy day in the camp, with accusations flying, daggers being waved about, and many obscene threats levelled at whoever the creatures are that are menacing the camp. In the end, in a very close vote Mr. Wednesday is named as the victim of the day, and despite his protests, has his throat neatly cut for him by one of your band of rogues. Unfortunately, after his death and not seeing anything strange or finding anything in his bedroll, you have to assume that he was a normal bandit!

Night 1

TazFTW
Suicane75
Neon_Chaos
Jeff061
Fouts
Raiders Army
Thomkal
Kwhit
Airhog
KevinNU7
Coffee Warlord
heybrad
henry296
BrianD
JeeberD
Vexroid
Eaglesfan27
SirFozzie
Qwikshot
Schmidty
Masked
digamma
Mr. Wednesday - Lynched Day 1
Swaggs
Mrsimperless
Vince
Kingfc22

PM night actions by midnight if you haven't already.

KWhit
07-13-2005, 08:47 PM
Oops.

Eaglesfan27
07-13-2005, 08:50 PM
Tough to see that happen on day 1.

JeeberD
07-13-2005, 08:50 PM
I figured as much. Unfortunately, though, it had to be one of us...two bandits.

Vince
07-13-2005, 08:57 PM
Well crap.

kingfc22
07-13-2005, 08:58 PM
Doh!

TazFTW
07-13-2005, 09:09 PM
Okay, I'm back. One bit of news is that I will need an alternate for Vexroid, so if you're reading the thread, send me a PM and you're in.
Did he tell you he was going to drop out? Because Vexroid did reply in this thread.

Coffee Warlord
07-13-2005, 09:10 PM
Shitty.

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 09:19 PM
Did he tell you he was going to drop out? Because Vexroid did reply in this thread.

Yes, he did. And I still need a replacement.

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 09:36 PM
Okay, no quick replacement in sight, so I will rejigger things a bit and won't replace him. We have plenty of people, right? ;)

korme
07-13-2005, 10:36 PM
No, I will play!

Schmidty
07-13-2005, 10:40 PM
No, I will play!

Lynch his ass!!! ;)

ntndeacon
07-13-2005, 10:43 PM
wooooo i am a ghost!.....

Oh wait wrong game!

Swaggs
07-13-2005, 10:59 PM
:D
I Vote Shorty.

Get Shorty!

Peregrine
07-13-2005, 11:43 PM
Fall is setting in on the forest around you, with small drifts of fallen leaves starting to appear here and there. Tonight is a nearly full moon, with few clouds, and the bright light keeps some of you awake for a while before you settle in. Everyone is nervous, though you don't hear any particular commotion in the night. Unfortunately when you wake up, disaster has struck the camp! In his tent the pathetic remains of Qwikshot are found, sucked dry of all his blood and fluids, a dry husk of a man. The news gets worse fifteen or so minutes later. The body of Mrsimperless is found slumped against a tree, someone has put a crossbow bolt through his eye. After investigating a bit, you are convinced that Qwikshot was a normal bandit, and that Mrsimperless was an ex-deputy! Vexroid is also mysteriously found dead.

Day 2

TazFTW
Suicane75
Neon_Chaos
Jeff061
Fouts
Raiders Army
Thomkal
Kwhit
Airhog
KevinNU7
Coffee Warlord
heybrad
henry296
BrianD
JeeberD
Eaglesfan27
SirFozzie
Qwikshot - devoured night 1 (bandit)
Schmidty
Masked
digamma
Mr. Wednesday - Lynched Day 1 (bandit)
Swaggs
Mrsimperless - killed Night 1 (ex-deputy)
Vince
Kingfc22

Lynch votes due in by 8 pm Eastern.

mrsimperless
07-13-2005, 11:53 PM
Vexroid is also mysteriously found dead.

LOL way to work that in there.

And I'm hurt Jeebs! A crossbow through the eye? You could have at least had the decency to knife me in the back like you promised! ;)

Good luck bandits.

TazFTW
07-14-2005, 12:08 AM
Well this is really starting out bad for us.

Vince
07-14-2005, 12:15 AM
Wow. This letting everyone in on the killing action sure makes this a nerve-wracking game. You can't step on anyone's toes...

Peregrine
07-14-2005, 12:30 AM
To be honest originally I was going to have just bandits and creatures, with no other roles, but it seemed like it might be TOO crazy.

Swaggs
07-14-2005, 12:48 AM
Interesting that two people who each got one vote were killed during the night.

Thomkal (who voted for MrSimperless) and KevinNU7 (who voted for Qwikshot) look somewhat suspicious, but I have got to think the killers were trying to stir things up with those two choices.

Neon_Chaos
07-14-2005, 01:03 AM
That's an interesting point, Swaggs.

After learning my lesson back in WW#5, I'm going to hold back my analysis for now.

Joe
07-14-2005, 05:38 AM
That's an interesting point, Swaggs.

After learning my lesson back in WW#5, I'm going to hold back my analysis for now.
:( Your analysis was really helpful.

Neon_Chaos
07-14-2005, 05:51 AM
:( Your analysis was really helpful.

Get away from me, wolfie! :)

Raiders Army
07-14-2005, 05:56 AM
I'm glad my handle doesn't begin with "mr"

Thomkal
07-14-2005, 06:29 AM
Interesting that two people who each got one vote were killed during the night.

Thomkal (who voted for MrSimperless) and KevinNU7 (who voted for Qwikshot) look somewhat suspicious, but I have got to think the killers were trying to stir things up with those two choices.
You're eactly right Swaggs. Someone was obviously trying to set me up. Probably the same with Kevin too. Sorry to see you go Mr S and Qwik.

I honestly was expecting to see a lot more bloodshed

JeeberD
07-14-2005, 06:50 AM
And I'm hurt Jeebs! A crossbow through the eye? You could have at least had the decency to knife me in the back like you promised! ;)


Heh, I knew that someone was gonna try to set me up by killing you...

Eaglesfan27
07-14-2005, 07:14 AM
Very interesting developments. This should be a fun day :)

KevinNU7
07-14-2005, 07:25 AM
Obviously the creatures were trying to set me up. If I was a creature it would be pretty dumb to draw the attention to me like that.

Raiders Army
07-14-2005, 07:34 AM
You're eactly right Swaggs. Someone was obviously trying to set me up. Probably the same with Kevin too. Sorry to see you go Mr S and Qwik.

I honestly was expecting to see a lot more bloodshed
That is a strange reply, coming from you.

You voted for mrsimperless who was the ex-deputy...he was also killed normally. That means if you are the killer, you are a bandit.

On the other hand, Qwikshot was killed by a creature, who the prime suspect at this point is KevinNU7.

So why wouldn't you want someone to set you up as a bandit? I can understand KevinNU7's concerns, but why would you be concerned at all?

KevinNU7
07-14-2005, 07:45 AM
If Thomkal did kill MrS then I think that is horrible stradegy. So little was know about Mr.S that to use your kill right at the beginning is pretty bad. I know I am going to save up my attack until one of the Spy's breakdown and reveals himself to kill some creatures. From there we will probably want to get a conversation going about who should kill which creatures and who should go after the Spy :) Or maybe we should create a truce with the Spy's?

Coffee Warlord
07-14-2005, 08:08 AM
Holy carnage batman.

KevinNU7
07-14-2005, 08:56 AM
Come on everyone, the creatures benefit from silence. Let's atleast get some chatter going. Should we go after Jeeber and maybe some of the lating voting for Mr.W? Do people feel Jeeber is as innocent as Mr.W? Should we go after some of the early voters for Jeeber?

BrianD
07-14-2005, 08:59 AM
So we only had 1 bandit killing last night? I expected there to be more. I wonder how many bandits voted for a kill but found their efforts blocked by someone else voting the same way?

JeeberD
07-14-2005, 09:02 AM
What would be the sense in trying to randomly kill someone this early, Brian? Just to get lucky and maybe get a creature? More than likely it would have just led to more bandits getting the shaft (bad pun, I know)...

KevinNU7
07-14-2005, 09:02 AM
So we only had 1 bandit killing last night? I expected there to be more. I wonder how many bandits voted for a kill but found their efforts blocked by someone else voting the same way?
I wonder if that would be report in Peregrine's message to everyone. Something like, "Player X came to breakfast that morning and told everyone that he felt someone watching him in the tress but then a rustling in the bushes near by seemed to scare him off."

jeff061
07-14-2005, 09:03 AM
I had no reason and have no reason to suspect either Jeeber or Wednesday were guilty. I haven't really had a chance to digest what's been going on.

KevinNU7
07-14-2005, 09:03 AM
What would be the sense in trying to randomly kill someone this early, Brian? Just to get lucky and maybe get a creature? More than likely it would have just led to more bandits getting the shaft (bad pun, I know)...
I agree, I think it is best to wait

Raiders Army
07-14-2005, 09:04 AM
If Thomkal did kill MrS then I think that is horrible stradegy.

So is your spelling. :)

Seriously though, why wouldn't it be a good strategy?
#1, you knock off the person who voted for you.
#2, you let people know that it would've been stupid for you to be the one to kill mrsimperless, since you would be a prime suspect, and then you use reverse psychology to make people think that you didn't do it. Even if they believed you did it, you would be identified as a bandit. And since Qwikshot was killed by a creature, you'd still be #2 on the list of threats.

BrianD
07-14-2005, 09:13 AM
What would be the sense in trying to randomly kill someone this early, Brian? Just to get lucky and maybe get a creature? More than likely it would have just led to more bandits getting the shaft (bad pun, I know)...

There wouldn't be a whole lot of sense, but with the group we have around here...I expected people to embrace the Total Carnage! (Fabulous Prizes! - 0.5 points for catching the reference.)

BrianD
07-14-2005, 09:15 AM
So is your spelling. :)

Seriously though, why wouldn't it be a good strategy?
#1, you knock off the person who voted for you.
#2, you let people know that it would've been stupid for you to be the one to kill mrsimperless, since you would be a prime suspect, and then you use reverse psychology to make people think that you didn't do it. Even if they believed you did it, you would be identified as a bandit. And since Qwikshot was killed by a creature, you'd still be #2 on the list of threats.

That really is the beauty of this game. You've got all kinds of psychology, reverse-psychology, and reverse-reverse-psychology. Everything that everybody does both completely clears them, and provides total proof of their guilt.

KevinNU7
07-14-2005, 09:23 AM
For now I will agree with Raider's analysis and say that for the time being Thomkal must be a bandit. I don't see anyone else in a position to just randomly kill Mr.S so IMO it must have been Thomak. If that is teh case then Thomkal must be a bandit. So for this round I will definetly not be voting for him. Seems like a prime suspect for the creatures to turn eventually.

Thomkal
07-14-2005, 09:33 AM
That is a strange reply, coming from you.

You voted for mrsimperless who was the ex-deputy...he was also killed normally. That means if you are the killer, you are a bandit.

On the other hand, Qwikshot was killed by a creature, who the prime suspect at this point is KevinNU7.

So why wouldn't you want someone to set you up as a bandit? I can understand KevinNU7's concerns, but why would you be concerned at all?
Why is strange? Even a now powerless bandit has to worry given some of the other roles in the game. They are wide open for a sheriff's Men conversion and always a potential target for the creatures because I'd then have a known role. So I would be very concerned about my future if I had killed Mr S and was now a bandit revealed. But I didn't kill him.

It's dangerous to reveal yourself as any role in this game of Werewolf because since everyone has a power they are a threat to someone else and a target of opportunity for others. Simple villagers in previous games didn't have to particularly worry about such threats.

Raiders Army
07-14-2005, 10:03 AM
For now I will agree with Raider's analysis and say that for the time being Thomkal must be a bandit. I don't see anyone else in a position to just randomly kill Mr.S so IMO it must have been Thomak. If that is teh case then Thomkal must be a bandit. So for this round I will definetly not be voting for him. Seems like a prime suspect for the creatures to turn eventually.
If you agree Thomkal must be a bandit, you must be a creature. :)

FWIW, I don't think Thomkal killed mrsimperless. In Werewolf V, mrsimperless was pretty insightful. Somebody was probably scared of it and knocked him off.

jeff061
07-14-2005, 10:07 AM
In Werewolf V, mrsimperless was pretty insightful. Somebody was probably scared of it and knocked him off.

I agree and was thinking the same thing. Simperless wrote some good diagnostic posts in V, I believe he wrote up that scoring matrix, which I found pretty cool.

Vince
07-14-2005, 10:09 AM
There wouldn't be a whole lot of sense, but with the group we have around here...I expected people to embrace the Total Carnage! (Fabulous Prizes! - 0.5 points for catching the reference.)
Smash TV?

Why is strange? Even a now powerless bandit has to worry given some of the other roles in the game. They are wide open for a sheriff's Men conversion and always a potential target for the creatures because I'd then have a known role. So I would be very concerned about my future if I had killed Mr S and was now a bandit revealed. But I didn't kill him.
If Thomkal is 'outed' as a bandit, logic would dictate that he has used his only kill on mrsimperless. As such, he is completely harmless to the creatures, and therefore no longer a target. As Kevin suggested though, he could be a prime target for conversion

Speaking of Kevin, I think that it would be either an incredibly foolish, or incredibly brilliant move of his to do away with Qwikshot. It's such an obvious move that anyone in their right mind would think "there's no way he would do that...talk about painting a picture." However, since he knows most people would think that, and he voted for Qwik anyways...

...man, my head's starting to hurt again, and it's not even 8:30 AM here. :(

mrsimperless
07-14-2005, 10:11 AM
There wouldn't be a whole lot of sense, but with the group we have around here...I expected people to embrace the Total Carnage! (Fabulous Prizes! - 0.5 points for catching the reference.)

Smash TV!

Vince
07-14-2005, 10:12 AM
Dola -- I'm also going to be away from the computer a lot more today than I was yesterday...I have to actually work today. I might not be back until right around voting time, so if I disappear for a while, that's why.

BrianD
07-14-2005, 10:40 AM
Smash TV?

Very good. :)


Speaking of Kevin, I think that it would be either an incredibly foolish, or incredibly brilliant move of his to do away with Qwikshot. It's such an obvious move that anyone in their right mind would think "there's no way he would do that...talk about painting a picture." However, since he knows most people would think that, and he voted for Qwik anyways...


One of these games, someone is going to make the completely obvious move knowing that nobody will believe it wasn't a frame-job. But with everybody still learning the rules of these shifting games, I don't think now is the time to do it. I don't think we know enough about this particular incarnation of the game to stand out any more than necessary.

Schmidty
07-14-2005, 10:57 AM
I haven't really had a chance to digest what's been going on.

That's because you just fed, you creature!!! ;)

I was honestly expecting more deaths last night too, but 3 is quite enough. We need to get lucky soon and lynch us a creature.

jeff061
07-14-2005, 11:01 AM
hehe.

I wasn't expecting to many kills, if any, I was thinking maybe a couple based around FOFC vendettas. I think it will slowly ramp up, I don't think we'll all of a sudden see an onslaught one night.

KevinNU7
07-14-2005, 11:16 AM
Speaking of Kevin, I think that it would be either an incredibly foolish, or incredibly brilliant move of his to do away with Qwikshot. It's such an obvious move that anyone in their right mind would think "there's no way he would do that...talk about painting a picture." However, since he knows most people would think that, and he voted for Qwik anyways...
I guess that is a chance but it serious doubt this early in the game. If we were coming down closer to teh end I could see someone trying this but this early on just seems silly.

Raiders Army
07-14-2005, 11:24 AM
I guess that is a chance but it serious doubt this early in the game. If we were coming down closer to teh end I could see someone trying this but this early on just seems silly.
And that's what makes this strategy a good one.

henry296
07-14-2005, 11:35 AM
Recall, Qwikshot was speaking to us in poetic code yesterday and now he is dead. Perhaps someone knew something about him. It was Kwhit, suicane, digamma and cofee who had some dialog about the code with him.

digamma
07-14-2005, 11:50 AM
Recall, Qwikshot was speaking to us in poetic code yesterday and now he is dead. Perhaps someone knew something about him. It was Kwhit, suicane, digamma and cofee who had some dialog about the code with him.
FWIW, I wasn't involved in that conversation. I just happened to post my vote (when I was leaving work) while they were going back and forth.

Obviously, we still don't have much to go on. At this point, I'm inclined to repeat my vote for Jeeber.

KWhit
07-14-2005, 12:02 PM
Recall, Qwikshot was speaking to us in poetic code yesterday and now he is dead. Perhaps someone knew something about him. It was Kwhit, suicane, digamma and cofee who had some dialog about the code with him.
I just mentioned that I thought his long post seemed out of place and could contain some code words. Here's the post FYI:


Vote Jeeber

I can see that this will be a long battle, discussion frayed with smiles and daggers, in the night, we will hear the sound of screams, violence, and the unlucky ones will face hellhounds of fur and teeth and claw, smelling of musk and blood. At dawn, we will face each with brittle accusations and stifled theories...but there is always one who must take the first blow, one who will start the cycle, until we find the wolves.

I'll go with Jeeber first.

The thing that stuck out to me was the use of the word see in the beginning. I thought he might be claiming that he "saw" something (perhaps he was the spy?) in Jeeber. That's why I changed my vote to Jeebs at the time.

Quik later said that he was just being poetic and it wasn't a code, but I'm not so sure. I'm still inclined to vote for Jeebs at this point.

KWhit
07-14-2005, 12:06 PM
Oh wait... Just remembered that Pere said Quik was a normal bandit.

SirFozzie
07-14-2005, 12:12 PM
Oh wait... Just remembered that Pere said Quik was a normal bandit.

Yeah, but why not vote for Jeebies anyway? :D

KWhit
07-14-2005, 12:25 PM
Well, we have nothing else to go on yet. Sigh.

JeeberD
07-14-2005, 12:35 PM
Yeah, but why not vote for Jeebies anyway? :D


:mad:

henry296
07-14-2005, 12:38 PM
FWIW, I wasn't involved in that conversation. I just happened to post my vote (when I was leaving work) while they were going back and forth.

Obviously, we still don't have much to go on. At this point, I'm inclined to repeat my vote for Jeeber.

Your right, I was trying to recall the names I saw in the middle of the conversation. My bad.

Even though Qwik was a bandit, if people we trying to make it look like something else, they might have been trying to divert attention away from themselves onto qwik.

KWhit
07-14-2005, 12:41 PM
I think I'm leaning for voting for one of the people who has posted the least. My reasons are:

1) Flying under the radar is a good strategy for a wolf (or in this case a creature)
2) To make informed decisions about people, we need activity - we need discussion

So that points to:

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2>SirFozzie (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/member.php?u=537) </TD><TD class=alt2>2</TD></TR><TR><TD class=alt1>heybrad (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/member.php?u=562) </TD><TD class=alt1>2</TD></TR><TR><TD class=alt2>Airhog (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/member.php?u=1410) </TD><TD class=alt2>2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
These are the 3 people who are playing the game with the least number of posts in the thread. Does anyone have any feelings about any of the three guys either way?

Raiders Army
07-14-2005, 12:49 PM
I think I'm leaning for voting for one of the people who has posted the least. My reasons are:

1) Flying under the radar is a good strategy for a wolf (or in this case a creature)
2) To make informed decisions about people, we need activity - we need discussion

So that points to:

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2>SirFozzie (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/member.php?u=537) </TD><TD class=alt2>2</TD></TR><TR><TD class=alt1>heybrad (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/member.php?u=562) </TD><TD class=alt1>2</TD></TR><TR><TD class=alt2>Airhog (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/member.php?u=1410) </TD><TD class=alt2>2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
These are the 3 people who are playing the game with the least number of posts in the thread. Does anyone have any feelings about any of the three guys either way?
heybrad killed me in Werewolf V, so I'm not a big fan...but this is a different game.

JeeberD
07-14-2005, 12:52 PM
Both time Fozz has said something it was to get people to vote for me. :(

henry296
07-14-2005, 12:58 PM
I think airhog has some issues posting while at work, which would explain his low post total.