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DeToxRox
07-17-2005, 10:57 PM
Thank you dearly for Kyle Farnsworth.

He's becoming my new favorite baseball player.

Not only is he pitching amazing, but damnit, he's the best guy to have in a brawl.

Cards4ever
07-17-2005, 11:16 PM
Why would the Cubs keep any decent reliever? That goes against all of their beliefs! Oh yeah, they still have Wrigley.

Easy Mac
07-17-2005, 11:24 PM
I thought it was a pretty nice take down. Seriously though, if you're in a bean-ball fest, you throw anywhere except at a guy's head.

DeToxRox
07-17-2005, 11:27 PM
I thought it was a pretty nice take down. Seriously though, if you're in a bean-ball fest, you throw anywhere except at a guy's head.

Indeed. Then he talks shit to Guillen, who bluffs a charge, and Hernandez turned and ducked.

He's lucky Farnsie didn't come after him.

I remember Farnsworth two or three years ago when I forget who it was charged and Farnsie speared them down and pummeled them.

Cuckoo
07-17-2005, 11:30 PM
I remember Farnsworth two or three years ago when I forget who it was charged and Farnsie speared them down and pummeled them.

Yeah, I was watching that game - it was a Cincinnati pitcher, can't remember exactly who it was.

Farnsworth has, and has always had, a ton of talent and incredible stuff. His problems are related to work ethic and intelligence. In the right situation, the guy will absolutely mow them down, but don't get surprised if he comes out the next season and serves up homerun after homerun with an ERA over 5. Relief pitchers are question marks; he's even more so.

That said, I'd definitely take him in a brawl. :D

DeToxRox
07-17-2005, 11:33 PM
Yeah, I was watching that game - it was a Cincinnati pitcher, can't remember exactly who it was.

Farnsworth has, and has always had, a ton of talent and incredible stuff. His problems are related to work ethic and intelligence. In the right situation, the guy will absolutely mow them down, but don't get surprised if he comes out the next season and serves up homerun after homerun with an ERA over 5. Relief pitchers are question marks; he's even more so.

That said, I'd definitely take him in a brawl. :D

Ha yeah. He has that every other year problem. Still, as long as he can fight, who needs pitching?!

Easy Mac
07-17-2005, 11:39 PM
DIdn't he beat up Paul Wilson

Cuckoo
07-17-2005, 11:40 PM
DIdn't he beat up Paul Wilson


Yeah, I think that's who it was. Picked him up and tackled him like a linebacker with perfect form. Funny stuff. :)

DeToxRox
07-17-2005, 11:41 PM
DIdn't he beat up Paul Wilson

haah yes. that's who it was. what pitcher charges the mound? come on. wilson had it coming. though it was a gutsy move by him.

DeToxRox
07-17-2005, 11:41 PM
One of the best tackles ever .. Mike Liberthal on Adam Dunn. That was awesome.

The Reds suck in brawls.

cody8200
07-17-2005, 11:42 PM
Yeah, I was watching that game - it was a Cincinnati pitcher, can't remember exactly who it was.

Farnsworth has, and has always had, a ton of talent and incredible stuff. His problems are related to work ethic and intelligence. In the right situation, the guy will absolutely mow them down, but don't get surprised if he comes out the next season and serves up homerun after homerun with an ERA over 5. Relief pitchers are question marks; he's even more so.

That said, I'd definitely take him in a brawl. :D


You nailed it. I was sad to see him go as I liked him quite a bit. But as a Cubs fan you understand that as an organiozation we rarely can/ will keep our pitchers.

hhiipp
07-18-2005, 07:27 AM
As a Cubs fan I'm glad he's gone. Guy is a ticking time bomb.

Fonzie
07-18-2005, 08:58 AM
As a Cubs fan I'm glad he's gone. Guy is a ticking time bomb.
And as a Cardinals fan I was sad to see him go. Guy is a ticking time bomb.

Ksyrup
07-18-2005, 09:06 AM
Funny, I watched Farnsworth Saturday night strike out the side for the save and was thinking that if Percival hadn't gotten injured and the Tigers weren't so close to .500, Farnsworth might be one of the most valuable relievers on the market right now. He's given up just 1 run in his last 25 innings. Maybe they'll still move him, but after Percival went down and having already traded Urbina, I doubt it. But if moved, Farsworth could be a difference-maker down the stretch. He might suck next year, but if he performs for a playoff team through October, that's a trade-off they'd probably be willing to make.

timmae
07-18-2005, 09:39 AM
Why would the Cubs keep any decent reliever? That goes against all of their beliefs! Oh yeah, they still have Wrigley.

Reminds me of an article in the tribune this weekend... the columnist, Morrissey I think, was qouting another source that said some version of "If they turned all of the seats at wrigley to face out of the parking rather than towards the field they would still sell out every game". My experience in the bleachers on saturday proved the qoute quite accurate. One of the only times that I've been at a baseball park an no one complained if you stood in front of them talking to a person 4 seats down, 2 rows up or a section to your left. One big ole' party!!

Fonzie
07-18-2005, 09:45 AM
Funny, I watched Farnsworth Saturday night strike out the side for the save and was thinking that if Percival hadn't gotten injured and the Tigers weren't so close to .500, Farnsworth might be one of the most valuable relievers on the market right now. He's given up just 1 run in his last 25 innings. Maybe they'll still move him, but after Percival went down and having already traded Urbina, I doubt it. But if moved, Farsworth could be a difference-maker down the stretch. He might suck next year, but if he performs for a playoff team through October, that's a trade-off they'd probably be willing to make.
I agree with this assessment. Despite the fact that he was very generous to my Cardinals he still scared the crap out of me with his potential.

MizzouRah
07-18-2005, 10:13 AM
Thank you dearly for Kyle Farnsworth.

He's becoming my new favorite baseball player.

Not only is he pitching amazing, but damnit, he's the best guy to have in a brawl.
I was thinking this when I saw the replay of that brawl. He's like 2-0 now in fights and would probably beat your ass just for looking at him wrong.

Coffee Warlord
07-18-2005, 10:16 AM
I was thinking this when I saw the replay of that brawl. He's like 2-0 now in fights and would probably beat your ass just for looking at him wrong.

No, he's 2-1. The water cooler took him down.

hhiipp
07-18-2005, 10:53 AM
Anyone have a link to a video of his latest fight?

hhiipp
07-18-2005, 11:03 AM
Dola.

Nm found it on mlb.com.

sterlingice
07-18-2005, 11:30 AM
As a Cubs fan I'm glad he's gone. Guy is a ticking time bomb.
And as a Cardinals fan I was sad to see him go. Guy is a ticking time bomb.
Nicely played :)

SI

sterlingice
07-18-2005, 11:31 AM
Thank you dearly for Kyle Farnsworth.

He's becoming my new favorite baseball player.

Not only is he pitching amazing, but damnit, he's the best guy to have in a brawl.
Yeah, but really, Jeremy was just standing there: he wasn't even goading anyone, and Farnsworth decides to just run at him and tackle him. No one's really sure why Farnsworth did that.

SI

dervack
07-18-2005, 02:42 PM
Yeah, I was watching that game - it was a Cincinnati pitcher, can't remember exactly who it was.

Farnsworth has, and has always had, a ton of talent and incredible stuff. His problems are related to work ethic and intelligence. In the right situation, the guy will absolutely mow them down, but don't get surprised if he comes out the next season and serves up homerun after homerun with an ERA over 5. Relief pitchers are question marks; he's even more so.

That said, I'd definitely take him in a brawl. :D
The reason why he was expendable for the Cubs was two-fold.

1. He's inconsistent. He has one good year, and then he will have one really bad year. For someone who has lights out stuff, those kind of things will help make a team move you. Of course, when you factor in...

2. He can't handle the day games the Cubs play. Farnsworth is the thype of guy who will stay out till 2 or 4 in the morning, and with the majority of Cubs home games during the day, it didn't make for a great situation. The Cubs figured that he would grow up pretty fast when his grilfriend gave birth to a child a couple of years ago, but he didn't change, and therefore they had no choice but to try and get something for him. When he would rather be in a bar in Wrigleyville sharing drinks, than sleeping for a 1:20 game, thats a problem.

TazFTW
07-18-2005, 02:45 PM
Yeah, but really, Jeremy was just standing there: he wasn't even goading anyone, and Farnsworth decides to just run at him and tackle him. No one's really sure why Farnsworth did that.

SI
I also was wondering what did Jeremy Affeldt do?

MLB should be testing Farnsworth because that was some Romo-rage.

I. J. Reilly
07-18-2005, 04:30 PM
Yeah, but really, Jeremy was just standing there: he wasn't even goading anyone, and Farnsworth decides to just run at him and tackle him. No one's really sure why Farnsworth did that.

SI
As any die-hard cubs fan will tell you, Farnsie's decision making leaves something to be desired.
He's Nuke LaLoosh with out the intelect.

sterlingice
07-18-2005, 05:07 PM
They were talking about this on the radio today. There was something off the record by Farnsworth saying Affeldt was jawing with him before the fight. But he also mentioned he might have mixed up who it was. D'oh.

Inside the lines, people are different but Jeremy's one of the nicest people you'll meet outside of the game so it seems somewhat unlikely it was him- he's one of those guys you can bank on being out there signing after the game and he'll chat people up and everything.

SI

DeToxRox
07-18-2005, 05:18 PM
Post game quote from Affeldt was he accidentally bumped Farnsworth on the way out and Farnsworth said "What, do you want to fight?"

Apparently thats what sparked it.